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underpaid teachers - what a joke!

Posted By: typingfool on 2007-04-26
In Reply to: It's nice that teacher won the money, but they are not - Wannie

I agree that teachers have all this extra work they have to do in their own time, but don't forget about all the paid time off they demanded; spring break, Christmas break, plus the fact that they get most of the summertime off with pay. I think that more than makes up for the extra time they have to put in while school is in session. I have a friend who is in the highest paying school district in Ohio and upon retirement, he and his wife will both be making 80K plus on their pensions. What's so god awful about that!!!!! Winning 10K may not be so great either by the time they pay taxes on it and add it to their income, possibly kicking them into a higher tax bracket. That can be considered a good or bad winning.


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I do not think underpaid here in my state
nice that the person won, however as far as putting up with the children, most teachers would never have to do that if the PARENTS did their job now days and taught the kids to respect, mind their elders, share, get along, in other words prepare them for life once they get through school. I think the parents are failing, not the schools.
i don't think they're overpaid, I just don't think they are underpaid, either.
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This is NOT a joke. I do not joke like this. See this link sl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=492533&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Teachers........sm
I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.

Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.

That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.

Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.

No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
of course, most teachers would give a different
story, just as most MTs will tell you that they don't make enough to survive or they are living near poverty, but that's not really true either. Most people would say the same thing about any profession they choose.
And I thought gym teachers were mean
when I was in school! Argh! I'd be furious too.


Teachers from Hogwarts?
A ghost and a ghost buster?

(I'm looking at a flier from a costume shop).

They have a $70 Davy Jones costume that's unbelievable.

They also have male and female Spartan cheerleader costumes. Does your hubby look anything like Will Ferrell? Those are each $30 though. They have a Dickk Cheney mask. If your DH has hunting clothes he'd be set. You could go as a gunshot victim.

(Mr. Cheney's first name is a dirty word on this board - how funny).

Remember teachers can
make all the difference in a child's ability to learn. If the teacher is not good at actually teaching (which many are not!), you might want to see if there is another teacher to choose from.


If the &*%& government would let teachers...

and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that.  They would've at least had a fighting chance.  If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others.  Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves?   This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner. 


Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain?   Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves. 


Honestly, I think teachers should
refer to students, no matter how old they are, by their first name, always.
Just to avoid misundertandings, like this one!
But teachers often have to use own money to pay for supplies
ujk
Most teachers have at least one planning period when they
can grade papers. If their job requires work-related hours away from school, they are given comp time.
Yes, compliments and gifts are the better way, especially with teachers!..
Also, I think your child will not want that you pick a fight with his/her teacher.
Some very dedicated teachers and low paid...
like firemen, police, military who risk their lives for really low pay unlike people with extreme salaries like sports or movie stars.
My sister and her husband are both teachers in Atlanta and -
The word is that many teachers will pass kids out of their current grade just to get rid of them. They tell me the biggest fear of the teachers is to have to teach the same problem child twice! They also say that some parents INSIST that their child be passed no matter what. So sad because it is the children who suffer!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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Agree. Teachers of future generations should be better
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It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


it's a joke . . .
go to votefortheworse.com
It's not a joke.

Warning....!!!!


Just last weekend on Friday night we parked in a public parking area. As we drove away I noticed a sticker on the rear window of the car. When I took it off after I got home, it was a receipt for gas. Luckily my friend told me not to stop as it could be someone waiting for me to get out of the car. Then we received this email yesterday:



'WARNING FROM POLICE - BEWARE OF PAPER ON THE BACK WINDOW OF YOUR VEHICLE--NEW WAY TO DO CARJACKINGS (NOT A JOKE)'


Heads up everyone! Please, keep this circulating... You walk across the parking lot, unlock your car and get inside. You start the engine and shift into Reverse.  When you look into the rearview mirror to back out of your parking space, you notice a piece of paper stuck to the m iddle of the rear window. So, you shift into Park, unlock your doors, and jump out of  your car to remove that paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. When you reach the back of your car, that is when the carjackers appear out of nowhere, jump into your car and take off. They practically mow you down as they speed off  in your car.  And guess what, ladies? I bet your purse is still in the car.  So now the carjacker has your car, your home address, your money, and your keys. Your home and your whole identity are now compromised!


BEWARE OF THIS NEW SCHEME THAT IS NOW BEING USED.


If you see a piece of paper stuck to your back window, just drive away. Remove the paper later. And be thankful that you read this e-mail. I hope you will forward this to friends and family, especially to women. A purse contains all kinds of personal information and identification documents, and you certainly do NOT want this to fall into the wrong hands.


Please keep this going


Hopefully this is a joke...sm
You would think the wire/string would get caught in the lower eyelashes.  If you watch the video, the model never moves her eyes side to side. 
It was a joke. nm
mpff
No Joke
There was a couple on one of the talk shows that did it. In fact, the person who first started it was a minister. I think maybe he wrote a book about it? He's been on the talk show circuit as well. (This was a few months ago)
Yes, I know, it was a joke. But
I cannot miss to notice that in EVERY joke Mr. Tech Support posts the 'macho- man' comes through!
where is the joke?...........nm
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where is the joke?..........nm
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EXCELLENT joke! *LOL*.........
   
This is a joke, right? Your son LIVES with her,
and you wonder about any of this? Give me a break! If the coach were God Himself, that would be no excuse to hand over your mothering duties and your son to someone else, let alone someone you think is a B. Give me a break. What is wrong with you?
Sanjaya is a JOKE. First of all,
he CANNOT SING; and if he thinks he can, he needs a reality check. He should have to sit and listen to himself like we all have to week after week. ICK.

It is just is not fair to the other contests to keep voting for him and losing better singers (not saying Brandon is great, but he is, was, much better than Sanny Boy.

If he wins this thing, which I doubt, it would be the END OF IDOL. I surely would not watch it ever again. This show is turning out to something other than a SINGING contest as Simon and the others have said over and over and over.

Why are there 3 judges anyway? AMERICA should not be allowed to vote, if this kind of c*** is going to continue. They need to put a stop to it. BUT they are raking in the ratings and the $$$$ so they probably really do not care.
vote is a joke
There is a web site set up, which I am sure most of you know about, that encourages voters to vote for certain singers, (the worst) Sanjaya happening to be the one the last couple weeks. I know the same thing pretty much happened with a couple of singers last year, they were mentioned on the web site and for several weeks, although they were terrible, they were not even in the bottom 3.
NO! And, like he is better than Melinda? lol What a joke.
Poor Melinda, I seriously think she was in shock, like the rest of us.
Don't even know a joke when you hear one. Wow!
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Yeah, I know. It was just a joke.
See what I did there - I substituted nits for ticks.

:oD


I thought this was a joke when it first came on! LOL...nm
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There is nothing on the news. Is this a bad joke?
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Yes, it will be taxable. What a joke, huh????
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perhaps she should offshore. joke, NM
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Tell us where you work! Please! no joke.
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Okay, this has got to be a joke to get us all going today
That is called trolling and/or spamming.
The first post from the OP sounds like a depressed person... who needs help. The second post from the OP sounds like a completely different person (different inflections etc) making up some sort of soap opera. So, if you are real, and yanking our chain, not funny. If you are real and both stories are true, call 911 or a counselor ASAP, or at the very least take a day off and you have our sympathies. Most of all if you are trolling, shame on me for letting you waste my time! Oh yes, and by the way, have a nice day. :)
I used to joke that my 1st daughter - sm
didn't even know she had a dad until my 2nd daughter was born, then he had no choice but to help out some. I think he changed maybe 5 diapers in the 5 years I had kids in diapers. I don't think he ever fed them once either. With my first daughter he did take one night a week to feed her in the middle of the night and to deal with whatever came up to give me a break. He was working full-time and I was a SAHM so that was the justification there. He would come home from work and I would often fall asleep on the couch with my daughter tucked beside me while he made dinner. He did all the cooking then at least, though I dealt with the baby food and formula, etc. With my 2nd daughter he never took a night with her as at six-weeks she started to sleep through the night, so he got out of his 1-night of night duty. I did not start doing MT until my 2nd daughter was almost 2, but still did it all, except cooking dinner (I still had to clean up the mess). So most guys get off easy I think. I never had heartburn before I got pregnant, or hemorrhoids, oh the joys of motherhood! Now that they are older he does take them to the movies or skating now to give me "time to work" in quiet, joy, granted I usually goof off a while when he does this, need to take a break sometime!
My husband and I joke that if we had...
waited until we were ready to have children, we never would have had any. (We are now expecting our second.) I think that we are just blessed to be so darned fertile! My point being that I was never going to have children and I never would have felt ready for the first one, but our blessing and surprise came anyway. I would not trade him for the world. The second one, with whom I am pregnant now, was not so much a mistake as a lack in diligence in the birth control area. The timing is bad. The baby is good. I did eventually want another--but not one to be born while my husband is deployed. I guess God had different ideas for us. However, my husband is right. If we waited around for the right time, we would never have had the first, let alone the second. You might find that you are more ready than you think! Good luck!
That's a joke, right? I do not think people are really doing this....nm
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Even if there was some "inside" joke there
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I think it was a joke. Lighten up!
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Jay Leno started the joke of how she looks like....
Shrek! She does have a beautiful spirit, though, so hopefully that won't hurt her down the road.
I was totally making a joke, Just having a little fun!
I love my kids as well as my furkids, but believe me, they are not genuises!
What is your best April Fools joke?
I told my Hubby I was expecting. Everyone at work was telling me how great it was. Finally I told them Look Folks !!!! It's April Fools Day!!!!!

oh geez - get a life! it was a joke

Sugar Mama joke?
I am just about 4 months single now and recently started dating a guy - was looking for someone with a good heart, compassionate, etc.  He seems to fit that bill.  He has some financial worries but money is not something I am looking for. I work very hard and get some money from my ex husband, child support, etc.  I paid a couple of times when we went out because I have no problem with that if it is my idea to go somewhere and he says up front he doesn't have the money to go.  But today he called and I said I had to work because in my profession if I'm not working, I'm not making money, and he said, "yeah, I can't have a sugar mama who is not making any money so you better get back to work."  I said in a mad voice, "You can't have a sugar mama either way!!!"  He laughed and we hung up.  A few min later he called back and I didn't answer, and he left a message saying he hoped I knew he was joking.  But I am a single mother and to me that type of joke has a grain of truth to it. I feel like a mama bear - I am furious.  I have accepted his health issues, his ED issues, etc., but I am just plain furious about that joke.  Do you think I am making to much of it or do you think my instincts are correct?
To joke about your mother having dementia
was that the joke part? Sorry, I still don’t get joking about being put in an institution and having dementia. I never would joke about something like that. I guess it takes all kinds though.