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Anxiety and depression are two different diagnoses

Posted By: oldMT on 2007-05-26
In Reply to: Me too hang in. sm - Anon

Sometimes they co-exist, sometimes they don't, sometimes long-term suffering of one will create the other. Some are situational, some are chemical. Family docs now spooning out SSRIs like candy have blurred them into a generic diagnosis with a generic fix, IMO.



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Normal anxiety???

I have a lot going on in my life right now - mother-in-law diagnosed with advanced metastatic ovarian cancer a week and a half ago, requested husband and I go to a marriage counsellor (which I started even though I don't want to), and starting a new full-time job at a hospital (not at home) on Monday. I have not worked FT outside of my home since my children were born and am worried about having them in early and after care, holidays, etc. 


Anyway, I have been waking up and night with my heart pounding, cannot get back to sleep for hours, and having a "panicky" feeling in my chest off and on throughout the day.  I feel like crying.  Do you think this is situational anxiety or do I need medication?  I can't stand this feeling!!  Thanks for any advice!


I have OCD and anxiety, but have a lot of the problems
that you describe. I've been dragging my feet going to a doctor, but I know I really need to. The most noticeable thing to me is that I have to read something several times before it sinks in. I have been a great reader my whole life. I read every day and love to, but now I am noticing that I am having a hard time. I know stress can mess with your concentration, etc., but that is why I was asking. I guess I need to go see a doctor, I just hate to.
My husband is on them too for anxiety.

Ever since his heart attack, every little thing sends him on edge.  If it weren't for those little pills, we'd be at the emergency room every 48 hours!  Even though the doctors reassured him it's only anxiety, he still flips out.  One of these bad boys and he is good to go.  It doesn't make him stupid or over sedated, just takes the edge off...but he is a 300+ pound guy.  I'm sure it affects different people in different ways.  I've never tried one myself...I'm always looking for the opposite effect.  I need an upper!    


 


 


Am I having an anxiety attack?
Okay, this has happened a few times now lately.  I do have a lot of stress, but I don't think it is more than anyone else.  I fell like I can't sit still, very antsy (sm), my shoulders and neck feel like they are being pulled/stretched.  Sitting in this chair I have to keep rocking.  It's the can't sit still that is driving me nuts.  The more I try to stop it the worse it gets.  Try transcribing with this.  What can I do to get past it?  I'm was trying to go to sleep and couldn't lie still in the bed.  If I truly focus on something I can get a few minutes of peace, but it doesn't last.  Can anyone help?
Sounds like anxiety to me.
I have anxiety, and I take 1/2 tablet of Xanax, which helps when I get antsy.  It is hard to focus.  You want to focus, but your mind races and you just can't sit still.  It is anxiety.  It will only get worse, so I would see your doctor and let them know what's happening. 
separation anxiety
Cesar Millan has some great books on dog behavior. He has a web site as well. Google canine separation anxiety and you'll get lots of info. Good luck!
We have a basset with anxiety (sm)
He's an old male and whines and howls a lot, particularly when we have company. He's always been like that. When he's particularly bad, my husband was instructed to give him an antianxiety drug. (I'm not sure which one--he had specific instructions of which I am unclear.) Our female basset is happy, jumpy, playful, and silly.

I'm not sure, but maybe your basset just has that kind of personality like our basset does. My husband has raised several bassets. This male dog he has is the only one that has had anxiety problems. He's raised several female bassets with no anxiety, excessive whining, or excessive howling problems like the male.

Our boy dog howls so much sometimes that his voice gets hoarse. It's so sad to hear it happen.
Anxiety is a terrible thing.

Xanax works for me.  I suffered too long with out.  Only can take half the dose, but I feel more focused.  I don't feel I need it every day.  Anxiety is a real disorder and does not always coincide with depression.  Like Hayseed says it can come with a traumatic insult of sickness on one's self, i.e., heart attack. 


I get the impression she's expressing more anxiety
here (as in venting and getting emotinos out) than she is emoting to her son.

Anyone on Lexapro for stress and anxiety?

Do you like it? Is it working for you?


my son has anxiety and a little phobia around crowds sm

the psychologist suggests anti-anxiety medicine.  his pediatrician prescribed Prozac.  i'm hesitant about giving this to hime.  anyone else have a child they've put on prozac?  he's 10. 


i've heard fish oil omega-3 stuff was good for anxiety/depression.  i mentioned this to the pediatrician.  they say it's not approved by FDA.  ok, what about all these drugs are are approved by FDA that have side effects.  for instance, he said Prozac can enhance suicidal thoughts.  my son has talked about dying before. that he didn't want to live.  this is off the subject, but what hormone replacement for women who have gone through menopause?  aren't those dangerous for possibly causing breast cancer?  those are FDA approved. 


i just don't know what to do.  my son definitely has anxiety that is interfering with his every day routine with school and some of it going to store and being around big crowds.  i want to help him, but i don't want to put him in danger.


anyone else out there with kids who have anxiety and what have you done to help them?


So magnesium and zinc help anxiety? sm
My son has been helped a lot with omega fatty acid supplements. A lot of kids appear depressed or anxious when they are deficient in omega fatty acids. So if magnesium and zinc also help I'd like to try that too.

Thanks
info on separation anxiety
from the same site.

http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/sep-anxiety.pdf
I concur. He may be experiencing anxiety attacks, which would
most definitely cause profuse sweating.  As already stated by others, probably the best "medicine" he can receive is TLC provided by you.
Keep waking up at night - Guilt? Anxiety?
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Have any of you been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder?

I have within the last week or so.  Just wondering what meds your doc put you in and if it is helping and how long it helped all of your symptoms.  I guess I was expecting "a feel-good feeling", too, but not really.  The anxiety is definitely better.  Had gone to the ER 3 times in less than a week, thinking it was my heart, but not.


Any help would be appreciated.


I stay home!!! (I think I have social anxiety). nm
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Be careful if you have a tendency to anxiety/panic. Wellbutrin
people who suffer with anxiety/panic.
IMO definitely depression
I think people get freaked when you say depression because they think of Grapes of Wrath or what our grandparents talk about what they went through. They say "Oh that'll never happen here" - "Gas at $3.00 your nuts, that'll never happen to us". I think that as long as they don't cancel American Idol people don't care. I talk to siblings they have no idea of what's going on in the economy but they know the statistics of all American Idols or Survivors. It's sad. I definitely see a depression coming. First, gas prices are soaring. People can't afford it. If they can't afford it they can't get themselves to work, or they work OT just to pay for gas to get to work (when OT is available). Food prices rising. Reports of food shortages in areas, jobs being shipped overseas. Then the wierd weather patterns I also believe somehow affect the economy. To me I see a major depression hitting us. Also I do read a lot of websites (the kind that my family thinks I'm into conspiracies - that is until they start hearing the same news I'm telling them about, they just hear about it months later and pretend I never told them anything).
depression?
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depression

Ladies, help me out.  What physical conditions can cause depression or mood swings?  For the past few months I have been experiencing bouts of depression that seem to come out of nowhere and hit me like a ton of bricks.  Within the span of 5 minutes I go from feeling normal and content to feeling like life is completely meaningless and hopeless.  This is completely out character for me.  I have always had a positive outlook, very even-tempered, and don't even get emotional around my period.  The year 2008 was one of the most stressful years of my life and there is still a lot of stress going on so I realize it could indeed be that I have reached my emotional limit, but if there could be a physical cause, I am willing to entertain that as well.   Thanks for any insight. 


Do you think he could be going through depression maybe? sm
Depression is an illness and it can definitely make you lose motivation or desire for anything. Just a thought.
I wonder if he has depression & if
depression meds would help pull him out of his funk so he could be at least motivated enough to get out & work? I fight depression & don't feel like working, but of course I do it because I have to support myself, but maybe he has a greater degree of depression?

On the other hand, I had a relative like this, and as long as anyone would hand him money, he wouldn't do anything to help himself. When people would cut him off, he'd work a while... My husband & I decided after a while of that that we would feed him when he came over to eat because we always have leftovers anyway, that we would quit handing him money but would never let him go hungry & he was welcome to eat with us anytime he wanted, but that would be the extent of it.

If he already owns a dump truck, he should be able to at least do a job here & there & get by though. I know men who would love to own their own dump truck!

There's no easy answer & I feel for you.
Depression after surgery
My Daddy went through the same thing after he had heart surgery. He would not go to a psychiatrist or counselor. We spoke with his primary care physician who put him on Paxil which helped tremendously. Ask your PCP or cardiologist if it would be possible to start him on an antidepressant to see if that may make a diffence.

Good luck and take care.
I don't think the depression meds --sm
should be taken in conjunction with pot. Anger and anxiety issues were already present prior to father's death. He may be grieving on some level, as his own psyche will allow, but sounds more like an excuse to me. I have lived with these types in the past. His lack of ambition is probably due to the pot, as well. Thinking of the child, I feel that separation from the source of this frustration would be the best thing for the boy. Counseling rarely works for the spouse, but it would probably benefit you. Go with your gut reaction on this as to what is best. You live with the man, and you know more about him than what you can post here. Trust your instincts. Good luck to you.
Could you be suffering from a depression?
Maybe go to your doctor and ask for an exam regarding your symptoms of being tired and wanting to always eat. Those are signs of depression. Are you on an antidepressant? They certainly have helped me.

Jan
Even postpartum depression.
I had a friend who was not even the same person after she had her second child. She was afraid to go out in public and would field all her calls through her husband and had never done anything like that before. We tried to go out together one day and she made me turn around and take her back home.

It turned out she had postpartum depression and after some time, therapy, understanding friends and short-term medication, she was fine.

Of course, the added stress of the baby's physical problems could easily account for a reason for the depression.

People have told me that one of the best things they appreciate from a friend is a sincere card or letter expressing empathy and concern. They like being able to read the sentiments again whenever they are down. Just a word of caution, always re-read such a letter before sending it to make sure there is no hint of something that could be taken the wrong way.


Recession/depression
I think we are at a "stuck" point, where it could shoot up or fall down into a rescession. I hope to God, it shoots up. I heard gas isn't coming down til after the first of the year (2009)
recession/depression
I think Michigan is already in a recession.  It is just sickening to see all the homes that have been foreclosed.  Everytime you watch the news or read a paper it is just more people losing their jobs.  I don't know how much more people here can take.  Hopefully things pick up soon!
PPMD/depression
I have depression.  Right before my time, I get terrible.  I am taking sertraline (Zoloft) right now all the time. While I was asking my Dr. about this medication she mentioned to me that some woman only take it for PPMD and/or up the dose during that time.  I am actually considering going back to her and asking about this because during my time I get irritable and sad still.   I hear ya!! 
Best Description of a Depression
I really think the movie "Cinderella Man" gives a good and accurate portrayal of the Great Depression.
depression era music

jazz age


 


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It sounds like you might have depression.
Maybe you could see a doctor? Talk therapy could help, especially if you work at home and don't get a chance to talk to *adults* much.

If you can't/don't want to see a doc (and you think it could be depression), you could try a supplement called SAMe (can get it at Target). Do some research about it on Google. It has helped some people. It's not too expensive and supposedly it starts working fast so you'd know if it were going to work for you before you spent too much.


With depression you lose either way -- sm
depression pretty much kills sex drive, but so do antidepressants. Still, I prefer to be on the meds.
While I totally agree re. depression...nm
to poster above who has done a fine job and counsels others on getting money into the bank, the stark reality is that no matter how much $$ one has in the bank, when depression hits - and it will - all that money isn't going to amount to a hill of beans that was covered by the floods in the upper states. The dollar bill has little value now, so when the depression hits none of it will be worth anything. Best stockpile on canned and paper goods (TP will be at a premium, I'm told by financiers) now with that $$ in the bank 'cause that's all you are going to have!
A few suggestions on beating depression.
In the same boat gave good suggestions for the medical care part. I strongly urge you to consider an anti-depressant and/or an anti-anxiety medication. They are not addictive, do not turn you into a zombie and will help you tremendously in every arena, especially work. You could try OTC St John's wort. This did not help my depression (it seems to run in my family and I think mine is hereditary) but I have friends who say it has helped them. It is possible your depression is being aggravated by SAD (seasonal affective disorder).

Make sure you are getting plenty of sleep. If you have trouble with insomnia, another really good natural remedy for that is melatonin. You find it in the vitamin section of the drug store. It is inexpensive and is not habit-forming. There is no set dosage. They come in 1 mg and 3 mg tablets that can be split. Start with the 1 mg and increase by 0.5 mg until you reach your ideal without hangover effect in the a.m. 3 mg is what I typically take, but have taken as much as 4.5. Again, insomnia runs in my family and it is likely your dosage would be less.

Exercise helps with depression A LOT. This does not have to be strenuous or extreme. A 20 to 45 minute walk 3 times a week or more will do WONDERS for you. Biking is great also and in the summer, swimming.

Here's something else I strongly suggest. I know it's a hard one, because I am a mom too. Stop trying to take care of everybody else for the time being and put focus on helping yourself. Find things you enjoy doing that do not cost money and then DO THEM. This can be difficult at first. Take baby steps at first. Make a modest plan for a day off, wake up and PRETEND you are not depressed, then put one foot in front of the other. Read books, watch favorite TV shows, surf the net, window shop, light candles and incense and soak in a hot water tub with soothing bath salts, listen to music, pot plants using cuttings, cook a delicious meal, change your hairstyle, experiment with make-up and new clothing styles (go to stores and try them on), start a journal or do a little research on a new hobby. Sometimes even housework can be therapeutic. Whatever you do, be very kind to yourself and do not beat yourself up if you don't get as much done as you would like. The road back takes time and practice.

Get proactive about your job. Look for work at home with a company with insurance. Make up your mind that you are going to kick this depression, not the other way around.

Only if you've never suffered from depression and
Walk a mile or two in my shoes before you go judging me, or anyone else who's been helped by antidepressants.
Can you get him to the PCP? They can handle this type of depression most times -nm
:-)
Our stories are very, very similar. Due to my severe depression sm
something horrible happened which I cannot speak of here. It is the main reason I found God, so you and I are alike in that matter.

As for God rescuing you like that - that is amazing. I guess we can just agree to disagree on this one. He saved you by showing you meds and saying it's okay to take them, and He healed me from my ailment without meds. Who is to say one is better than the other? That is why the saying goes that God works in mysterious ways!

I am happy for you! Continue to do what you are doing. I am not judging you. I only spoke to NCMT through my own experiences. We all have our own experiences.
either postpartum depression or embarrassed/guilt

I have known people to withdraw due to feeling like people are going to make fun of their child, blaming themselves or postpartum depression.  Is this their first child?  Could be that she is just simply overwhelmed. What does her mother-in-law/mother think?  Is she also pulling away from them? 


Just let her know that you are there for her even if that means sending her a card. 


POLL: Are we headed for a recession/depression?
Do you think we are headed there or already there.  Some people have told me they think it is going to get really bad like during the great depression.  opinions?
If your mom and dad just divorced this year, have you ever thought of depression? sm
Maybe your dad is going through a real hard adjustment to his new life and could use a little help or boost from you instead of a cold shoulder. Sounds to me like he might just be in some major depression as his life has had a drastic change. Reach out to him and help him in his time of need. Sure he is an adult, but everyone can walk on hard times with major traumatic events going on in their life and he may just lack desire to care due to his depression.
Depression/Menopause/Decreased Sex Drive
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Anybody's hubby went through Open Heart Surgery and can't get out of depression?

I seem to be having a big problem with mine. He wasn't too bad after surgery, but since then, there have been a lot of house problems. i.e., water , septic system problems, roof leaking, my car not passing inspection so down to 1 vehicle, etc., etc.


He feels he cannot handle it anymore. He'll sit in our garage for hours on end doing nothing, but knowing he should be doing something. Yet, everything he does lately, does not solve a problem and he winds up doing something else for the same problem. It never bothered him before except ot get him mad he didn't do it right the first time (does anybody understand what I'm saying here?). He's feeling very "old" and incompetent but nothing I do or say is getting him out of this depression.


I'm afraid for him but don't tell me to make an appointment with a psychologist or psychiatrist...he would never go. He's losing interest in eating, too, and even fixing his favorite foods depresses him because he thinks it's not made the same.


Anybody have any suggestions? I don't know what else to do lately. Thanks fo the help.


Haven't you heard? We're in a recession and/or depression?

so, why would there be a raise in benefits if there is no inflation?


The risk of suicide is greater in people with depression anyway sm
I personally have suffered from depression for most of my life, and the only time I feel "normal" is when I am on some kind of antidepressant. It takes time and a patient understanding doctor to work with you until you are on the right one at the right dosage, but I strongly feel that it is irresponsible and dangerous to tell someone not to take an antidepressant if they need it. You don't go telling diabetics that they shouldn't take insulin because people taking it are more likely to have high blood sugar do you? Makes about as much sense to me
Regular exercise helps, too, but watch for depression if you're
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Many meds for depression and mental retardation make people very SM

heavy.  My friend has gained probably 75 pounds or more since being on some of the meds. Don't know quite why they contribute to weight loss, but one commercial some years ago said that it does something to the part of the brain that senses when you are full. . . . .  


..:) Depression glass, cut crystal, candle sticks, figurines. Strings of twinkie lights
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