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Any bird lovers out there? I have a question sm

Posted By: trose on 2007-07-23
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I have had to female (didn't want to deal with breeding, been there done that) Cordon Bleu finches for almost 3 years.  My hubby purchased them for me for out 17th anniversary.  It has been just the two of them in their cage since we brought them home and they hang right beside my desk so I can see them when I work.  Last night we found 1 dead.  The other one has been chirping continuously since early this morning.  They are not extremely vocal birds (usually the males are) but they would normally chirp a little and would fly around quite a bit.  I know Roxy is probably wondering where Velma is and that is the reason for the continuous chirping (including a weird sing-sing-whisthiling noise that I have never heard before).  I have been searching on the web about getting another bird for her to have as company.  I can't find anything definite.  We brought these birds 3 hours from here as our local pet store only carries zebra finches.  I haven't spoken to anywhere there yet but plan to.  Does anyone have any suggestions? My heart just breaks for the lone bird but am not sure if getting another bird is the best idea.


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I had a cat who once caught a bird...


in mid air.  I saw it with my own eyes or never would have believed it. 
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lonely bird

I've had all kinds of birds but only a couple types of finches, none of them Blues.  I do know that finches tend to be colony birds and prefer companionship as a rule.  I think she is probably missing her best buddy and she is also afraid because she doesn't know what happened.  If there was any blood involved with the dying bird, this will terrify birds even more.  (They don't even like it if you wear red nailpolish.)  That might account for the odd chirping.  It might be to your benefit to try to find out what the other bird died from because if it had anything to do with something that is still in Roxy's environment, this will upset her. 


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Yes, get another bird. They become very attached.
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I ran over my science teacher at the dinner table because Big Bird said to. nm
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it takes 3 weeks for a baby bird to learn to
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