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Assume the smoking outside will not last. sm

Posted By: Been There on 2009-01-22
In Reply to: Is there a way to get smoker's smell out of a house? - Roommate

I've lived with smokers. They all say they'll only do it outside. They ALL eventually revert to doing it inside. Especially when you are the only non-smoker. Consider how this will affect you. They may be awesome, but they're awesome smokers.


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That's quite a lot to assume that because
I don't attend church that I don't worship.

Sounds like maybe you need to do a little more worshiping!
Yes! Thanks very much. I assume I can buy the
wicks and scents from Walmart/Target craft department?
Please do not assume (sm)
That I have "never picked up a Bible or attended church much at all."  You would be wrong.  I do not believe in judging people and telling people who will go to Heaven and who will not.  I wouldn't presume to tell anyone that their loved one will not go to Heaven because of their religion - and unless you happen to be the Second Coming personified, you shouldn't either.
I assume you said...sm
rebellion because she chose to keep her maiden name. We don't discuss that in our family. LOL
you cannot assume
that she is on welfare. Maybe she is. but if so, do you really think that monetary compensation for the babies would hold a light to all she has to do to take care of them now and heart aches to come for the next 20 years? My concern is more for whether she LOVES her children and raises them well than the money and where it comes from.
That's a lot to assume. Everyone has bad days.
Everyone shouldn't be so quick to judge!

Even though I'm not in the mood, I usually give my husband a smile or something. He usually just smiles and then leaves me alone. I think sometimes even if they aren't getting anything they still just want to feel wanted, ego boost, whatever you want to call it. :)
When you assume....you are usually wrong..
as you were in this case...I used to live on a corner lot and when working away from home broken into probably 6 or 7 times, had to have bars put on the windows, stolen from- my son went by the house once and called me and told me he was there as were the police, just broken in on. One time I was at home, the house dark and someone entered the door thinking no one was there. Oh, by the way, had an exhusband who also stalked me for a long time. Please do not assume when you don’t really know about someone else. Unlike others considering being paranoid, just things happened to me like it happens to others- I just got over mine...
So, since he's divorced twice, do we assume that it

Isn't there such a thing as he divorced the wives?  Are you catching my drift?  I guess we automatically assume it was "his" fault, and never the woman's?  Just a thought.  I say just take it slow, but it is so much fun to have that initial spark, and if it continues, then great. 


I'm not sure of specifics, I assume it was
T3, T4 and TSH. Are there others they can check if these are normal? Everything I read says if thyroid usually these levels are affected. I appreciate all of your responses. I'm very nervous.
I am told never assume as you did
because you are usually wrong and such is the case here, and by the way, you are excused.
don't assume a 29-year-old is
responsible, either. My sister still lives at home (27) and my parents do her laundry, tell her to pay her bills, make her supper and clean her room. The age of the sister isn't the issue here.
assume this is true. God help you
and get away from him. get to the women's shelter, in fact, you probably need the witness protection program. he cannot legally drop insurance on the kids with a court order. There has to be someone legal to help you and the women's shelter or crisis abuse hotline knows all the numbers. outside of your kids it does not sound like you would be leaving much behind if you just went with what you could carry. I would take ANY death threat seriously and the fact he is now turning it on the kids is worrisome. Good luck.
assume you are talking about sm
Something called big love, it's disgustingly funny, watch it so I know what some will do in the name of the Almighty One. I am a God-loving person but give me a break, please!! Let's just see if wife #4, the waitress gets to join the love fest. Yuk! Double Yik, yuk! Throwing up!
Not true. Don't assume because you store something somewhere
that the person storing it is liable if something is lost or stolen. In fact, I had stuff stolen from a storage facility and they were not liable. Luckily my homeowners insurance paid.

In this case I believe both husbands were at fault. OPs husband because he chose rest rather than being sure that the quads were safe....and BIL because he shouldn't have accepted responsibility for the quads if he didn't feel he could store them safely. Both should take equal responsibility for the loss IMO.

I assume you're single.......
You need to call this guy. Call him at the office with a "question" and see where the conversation takes you.....Good luck!!!
And you assume you are the only woman this has ever happened to??
Unbelievable. I have gone thru exactly the same thing, abused, mistreated, broken arm, blackened eyes. What does that have to do with forgetting other than possibly all those hits to the head. My children do not motivate me to remember. My dear, loving husband does not motivate me. My loving cats do not motivate me. No one can motivate me to remember, just ain't there. Very responsible person, pay all my bills, run 3 different homes, rentals included, write things down or give to hubby like I said so I won't misplace. I call that pretty responsible. I think no one should assume about another person's life when they really don't have a clue as to what they have been through.
and I assume they have all signed HIPAA
contracts!  Sorry about your loss.  That is a crowded workstation.  Why do my cats think they can sit in my lap while I type?
Why do you assume she married the money?

Jealous much?


I can't speak for her, but I've been married for 13 years and my husband certainly wasnt making 6 figures when I married him. Some people have goals in life, and do things early on in their life/career to help them attain those goals. 


Plus, you act as if a 6-figure income is rich and let me tell you, it's far from it (assuming she is on the lower end of that 6 figures as our household is). 


I'm not trying to slam anyone, honestly, it just amazes me some of the things people are posting to save money and makes me wonder how they can be content with their job/life if they have to struggle that much.  This is still America, the land of opportunity, and we all have a chance to better ourselves if we choose to do so.  Granted it is harder these days than say, 10 years ago, but it is still possible. Cripes, there are illegal immigrants living better off than it sounds like some of you are!


Why do you assume we're "behind"? sm
I think you'll find just the opposite to be true. Most of the therapies have come from adult stem cell research done in the US, or by American researchers in collaboration with those from other countries.

More to the point, and I hate to keep having to say this, my original post took no position against ESC research. I only pointed out that it does not appear to hold the promise that those who are grabbing for federal tax dollars would have you believe, that it has had a number of problems (such as seeding people with cancer), AND that it is a grave mistake to open these doors without due consideration for the potential risk to human embryos.

Let's think about this last point for a minute. It seems that this sort of precipitous action is becoming a habit with this administration.

We see this in the precipitous passage of the bailout package without the five days promised to read it.

We see it with Guantanamo, releasing terrorists BEFORE conducting the review that Obama himself promised.

We see it in the debacle of the proposal to Russia to dismantle the missile shield if Russia would help with Iran, which was releasedto the American press before it was discussed with Russia in displomati circles and, as a result, getting a world-class come-uppance when we were turned down like a bedspread by Putin.

I could go on, but this President is proving to be distressingly naive, politically inept, and impulsive. Whether it's throwing $billions at "fixing the economy" without proper safeguards, ESC research without proper safeguards, releasing Guantanamo prisoners without proper review, announcing the date of withdrawl from Iraq months in advance, or releasing sensitive diplomatic information to the press prematurely, the Obama administration needs to grow up and slow down.

One almost has the sense that Obama knows he will only have four years, and if he doesn't become much more measured in his actions, he just might be right.
oooooooh nooooooo....dont assume anything

NOT on line.  I went to a party....much like tupperware or candle party.  Only women.  It was so darn much fun - in fact, I think it was called a *Fun Party*.  It was done tastefully, as much as possible considering it started out with this 2 or 3 foot plastic/rubber phallus in the middle of the floor.  The hostess explained all the products and how to use them, etc., etc.  She even let you try out some samples of things, privately in a separate room if you wanted.  And when it came time to order, that was done privately also.  If you wanted to tell your friends what you bought, you could.  If you didnt want anyone to know, that was up to you.


We did have refreshments and, no, hot dogs were not served.


Come to think of it, we were mostly all transcriptionists there!  Ages from 20s to 60s.  We all worked together.  I guess we MTs are just a fun lovin bunch!!!


Nope - we assume it'll be tough

I think boomers are the last of the "fix it" generations - able to make simple repairs, jump a stalled vehicle, do things "the hard way/old fashioned way" on manual, non-electronic office equipment and machines, tell time on a wind-up non-digital clock.


Many people from younger generations admit they know how to do very little unless it happens to be their college-trained specialty.  Things boomers take for granted as normal life skills like


Sew up a rip in clothing or replace a button


Pull a car out of a ditch or change a flat tire


Cook dinner from scratch, and substitute ingredients in a pinch


Do long division on paper instead of a computer, and make change without electronic help


Many who don't know, don't want to learn - they always assume there'll be someone out there they can hire to do it for them.  As a boomer I've always been shocked and dismayed at younger generations blithe lack of self-sufficiency.  Seems like they don't know how to do anything - and don't want to know.


I guess these are the times when people just assume without knowing...
I said when I answered her call "She seemed out of sorts, curt reply, telling me to call her back." Well, with all "assuming" that is going on, I assume people are not reading the post as I stated. If she thinks I am angry, I have told her to ask me. A person who assumes is wrong a lot of the time- as you were here.

It's just as rude to assume everyone will want to drop everything to talk to you when you call. n
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Most people would assume mom was cremated and waiting to bury urn
at least that's what I think.
Look down on smoking...you said it!
I feel like such a loser sometimes, when I am with others and I'm the only one who has to go find a place where I can have a cigarette. You cannot even smoke outside anymore at certain places, hospital grounds etc., unless you go to the dreaded designated *loser* smoking spot which is usually 1/2 mile away and very obvious (one had a smoking gazebo) :) Happy for you. I'm going to try Chantix too.
smoking
Stick with it!! Believe me you will feel better in the long run! I quit about 8 yrs ago now.
smoking
Did you ask your doc for the new pill that just came out. I can remember exactly what it is called but I have a girlfriend on them and it is working great. Give it a shot!!
Smoking sm

I can only tell you a true story. My younger sister smoked (I never did) and she would try to stop but each time a stressful situation would occur, she would pick up again. At a young age, she was diagnosed with Stage IV lung cancer, never even had a cough and she looked great! She lived exactly 17 months, the charts said 18. By the 2nd month of DX the young docs told her, "nursing home or Hospice, you can't lay around here." This was when she had a high fever and reaction to chemo. She lost her hair, gained about 30 pounds, etc.from chemo reaction. She died penniless and heartbroken. She was only a year retired early from a great job and had the rest of her life to look forward to, yet cigarettes robbed her of her family, her dignity, her retirement fund, and now she's in the cold, cold ground, all because she "needed" a cigarette. She wanted to retire early and enjoy her 401K retirement plan and her kids. Her daughter just had a beautiful baby and no mother to share the news. Her grandchildren have no grandmother and I have no sister anymore. She just had to have that cigarettte and would listen to no one. Her oncologist told her, "Go ahead and smoke, what difference does it make now?" Is this what you want for yourself? It's the bare naked truth, please, I would rather you cut off your fingers than smoke, at least you would still be alive. Cigarettes STINK and they KILL. Don't let it happen one more day.


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So that's a yes on the smoking, then.

Of course it has everything to do with it.


smoking
That's a difficult situation. Legally you can do nothing against her, that's bad. I hope the smoke detectors are well maintained? You can try to talk some sense into her, but I doubt it will help.
The only solution would be that you move into a building where the owner forbids smoking. There are some sensible landlords out there who want to keep their houses smokefree.
But, as you said, that's difficult for you.
Try to convince her to stop smoking or cut down by telling her how bad it is for her health.
There should be 'houses for smokers', stinkers, and 'houses for nonsmokers', nonstinkers.
I have the same problem. I am a nonsmoker and live on the 1st floor, under and on above me both are smokers and I tell you, it stinks!
Smoking outside stores
I don't like people smoking outside stores either. They stand right by the door so you have to hold your breath and go through the smoke cloud. Unlike the other things mentioned, that does invade my personal space with secondhand smoke exposure.
No smoking pills?
Has anyone taken the drug Chantix for smoking? My son has been taking this and he and his wife haven't slept in a week. She says he is not acting like himself...I don't smoke so I don't have a clue what its like.

The smoking might have to be done outside if the laws there say
s
15 yo smoking question
I found a pack of cigarettes in my 15-yo son's back pack.  He said he was holding them for a neighbor.  I kind of believe him but regardless he is under 18 and should not be in possession of them.  What kind of consequences do you think are appropriate?
Trying to stop smoking
I haven't smoked today! I am trying to quit. Have tried several times before, but this time I have to do it!
There's a little difference with smoking, though.
Your second-hand smoke is harmful to others and the environment.

Alcohol kills more people than just those who ingest it.

Obesity only kills the person suffering from it.

Rude to comment on it? Maybe. Then again, everyone who has to put up with the butts on the ground, the second-hand smoke, the nicotine stains and the stench of it clinging to you as you walk into the building -- well, I guess they do have a right to comment.
Today is my second day not smoking
You may want to give it another try.  It make cigarettes taste terrible.  I think that it only takes 3 days for the physical withdrawal to be over and then it is the emotional part and the habit you need to kick.  I decided to quit because I saw the show Intervention and this kid got hooked on heroine after his mother died of cancer and that really hit me and I realized that my life is not only mine, but that of my family's as well.  It was funny because yesterday it seemed that whenever I had the urge for a smoke, I would get a note of someone who had lung cancer.  Good luck to you. I defintely feel your pain.  People who have never smoked just don't get it.  Give it another try with Chantix.  I have to say that the only problem with it is that I can't sleep at night, but I took a Xanax last night and slept better, not well, but better.  It will be worth it in the end when I am a nonsmoker and don't have the threat of lung cancer looming over me.  Good luck.
While I don't proport smoking, I'm not sure

asking this information on an insurance form should be allowed.  We already deny many Americans affordable health coverage because of obesity and other medical problems.  What's next?  Asking how many foods we microwave or how long we talk on a cell phone (supposedly these cause cancer, too)? We already ask the obvious questions - smoking, drinking, exercise.  They have you weigh in and ask every question imaginable about your family medical history.


How are we supposed to obtain coverage if we're not in perfect health, and let's face it, how many Americans are in perfect health?  I was watching Celebrity Fit Club on TV and I looked at some of the people on there and thought what's wrong with them, only to find out their body fat percentage was 2 points over norm.  Come on America -- this is just another way to keep us from having healthcare coverage.  No, I'm not a smoker, just a concerned American wondering about the future of my health insurance. 


Smoking at school
My high school had an area called the "smoke hole" where, if you had a "smoking permit", you could go during lunch or breaks and smoke! I think about that now and it just amazes me that kids were allowed to smoke at school.  We called the people that went there the "smokeholians"...too weird now!
quitting smoking
You are correct to be afraid. Quitting smoking is excruciatingly painful. You have to re-train your brain to do every single daily activity without smoking. And the cravings never go away.

Skullcap, Gingseng, and Valerian are extremely useful, so you don't have to suffer if you don't want to.

The sore throat alone from the first week of quitting will scare you to death.

You will need to eat and exercise to get the energy you get from cigarettes, and it will take awhile to learn how to take better care of yourself.

Why is it worth it? You aren't a slave anymore, you can go anywhere, colors you see are more intense, all foods taste different, smells are different and more intense, (and sex is more intense also).

You can quit anything if you can stand the pain. Don't be a wimp, you are worth it.
Quitting Smoking Again
I was wondering if any of you have any tips for quitting smoking without gaining weight. That is my biggest fear as I am already overweight. Thanks in advance!
quitting smoking
I gained 10 pounds I never lost, but not more than that. I used to skip meals when I smoked so I think that is self-explanatory.

Apples and fruit for snacks and quick energy.

I bought an espresso machine, but the mocha grandes I was drinking made my eyes vibrate....not kidding.

Siberian Gingseng to remove fogged brain, depression, and fatigue.

Skullcap for mild irritation.

Skullcap combined with Valerian for psychotic irritation.

Gas-X to combate the effects of constant gum chewing.

Long walks, deep breathing and YOGA. Yoga is amazing....

Smoking either boosts you up or calms you down. Figure out which it is and you can substitute for that need without eating.
I took it to quit smoking...
and can't say that I noticed any effects whatsoever, except that it did help me quit smoking.
congrats on the no smoking!!!!
I am not that broke, but next paycheck I need $800 for the car payment and window and door loan. Also need about 200 for food for the following 2 weeks until the next payday... so bout a grand, but the check will only be 700.  HMMM, Live without food and will still owe 100 to someone.  Thank God I do not have to put gas in the car.
That is a little overboard. Smoking is not
illegal. I would think CPS would tell her to stop wasting their time.
DS smoking pot last night.

Last night, he and his friend smoked in his room and blew the smoke out the window, trying to be sneaky, not realizing that it would waft up and come in the upper deck screen door! We calmly confronted them, they admitted it, DS handed over his paraphanalia, a homemade bong out of a soda can, the rest of his stash (just a couple buds), and we called the other kids parents, who promptly came over and we had a group discussion around the kitchen table, after which the other kid and his parents went home .


DS is grounded from his phone, computer, house phone, all friends and activities until further notice. When he does have an activity, he will be highly monitored and supervised. His freedoms are greatly curtailed. He also will be doing more work on the retaining wall we are building in the back yard. We're not sure yet what else will be a consequence, but I have a friend who is a rehab nurse in a chem dependancy unit, so we may chat with her.


Besides making bad choices and stupid decisions, what REALLY makes me angry is that he was using his SIXTY DOLLAR trumpet mouthpieces for bowls. What a bonehead.


My 16-year-old daughter smoking

I have known for about a year that my daughter has been smoking from time to time.  I made it very clear to her that this was very unacceptable and absolutely would not be tolerated. 


Apparently she has done a very good job at hiding it.  Tonight when I was putting socks into her sock drawer, for some reason I decided to push aside her socks and, of course, I found a cigarette, but the filter had been cut off.  I also saw several filters that had been cut off in her drawer.  I asked her about it a little bit ago and naturally she stormed upstairs and wouldn't discuss it with me.  This may sound incredibly naive, but I really don't know why the filters were cut off?  Maybe to make the cigarette stronger?  This thought makes me sick to my stomach. 


I am at a loss here.  She is a pretty good girl, an honor roll student, has lots of friends, but still loves to spend time with her family.  I have grounded her in the past for this, but apparently that didn't get my point across.  I would love to hear from parents with teenagers who have been through this before and have suggestions on how to deal with this.  Also, I'm almost afraid to ask, but any ideas why the filters were cut off the cigarettes? 


 


cig smoking is EXACTLY like heroin addiction.....

filters cut off for more strength....to answer your question.


I wish someone had stopped me - folks gave permission at a young age....because they were smokers.....I have never quit except in pregnancy....but I quit buying over 3-1/2 months ago, still smoke but ask others for one....and I cut back smoking by 75 percent and THAT's something because I no longer even cough the way I used to, my house smells GREAT (smoking outside only).....and I sound better (because I really am better - health-wise).


It is MOST definitely a drug addiction, as bad as any of them, as addicting as any of them........so the post was right on about *hearing it is as strong as a heroin addiction* - I tell kids today, that's exactly what it is...........................because it is.


My only suggestion is to show her pictures (found online even, just Google the subject/topic/question) of what lungs look like in smokers versus nonsmokre, and then find some head and neck surgical oncology site and start showing her pictures there (I worked in a surgical oncology HEAD AND NECK dept for a few years and what I saw was definitely sickening and yet, I too, still smoke *slaps self*)


My children (due to the fact I used above tactics) - NEVER smoked (thank goodness!!!!).


Best of luck to her and you!!! 



Georgia has a no public smoking law...sm
and it's great going to restaurants, stores, etc without smelling cigarettes. Restaurants can only allow smokers if they don't admit anyone under age 18 and they have to have a ventilation system that meets a certain strict criteria with the state.
So you're quitting smoking?
Since nicotine is a drug, and you are giving up a habit that involves deep breathing, it actually makes perfect sense if you are starting to have anxiety. I'll bet if you took up exercising like yoga or pilates or some sort of martial arts, you'd get a similar calming effect.
Using the patch for smoking cessation SM
I do not smoke, but just wanted to tell you that my hairstylist has tried to quit smoking twice with no success. She just told me on Tuesday evening that she is on a nicotine patch and she is just thrilled. She said she cannot believe how it has helped. She said it is expensive, but well worth it. She has not smoked now for over 3 weeks and says that she is not even missing it She just seems so much happier now, and she has taken such a positive step that her boyfriend is also on the patch and doing great. Can't speak for myself, but please, please for your health and the health of those around you, give it a try. You are worth it!