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I look at food labels, not organic/nonorganic. (SM)

Posted By: Apple Scruff on 2007-04-23
In Reply to: What are your thoughts on organic foods? - sm.

To my family, the price is a concern.  However, when we can, we like food out of our little garden best.


We serve nutritious foods with what we can provide.  This week we ate strawberries and canteloupe because they were on sale.  We've been using bell peppers in about everything for the same reason.  However, next week might be broccoli everything.  We are big bean eaters around here; they're cheap, nutritious, and good.  Only Cargill a couple blocks away from here smells worse than us.


I don't really buy into the organic hype, but I've bought organic things, usually if they were cheap.  I could read studies until I'm blue in the face about how the pesticides will give me hemorrhoids and foot fungus and whatever the study is about; I revel in the thought that my chance of death is eventually 100%.


Don't mind my ramble.  Thank you for the article, though.  I found it informative.




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scratch and sniff cat food labels...
so sick of Picky Pete!  this kind?, this kind?, this kind? -- three a day is my limit of trying to guess his mood...
Do you buy organic food
I have noticed more and more the areas in grocery stores set aside for "organics". They are priced out of reach for so many of us. Do you buy them?
Do you purchase only organic food for yourself? Just
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I visit a market with the organic food
but knowing the problem with the connection with chicken and the bad feed, was asking DH tonight about the chicken purchase when he showed me the signs, all natural, no addictives, no hormones, etc. This is a wonderful world market in Decatur, Georgia and they have everything. I love seeing all those things that I never eat and would not know how to prepare from other countries, noticed the Chinese okra tonight and it was huge, always a treat just to look as we shop.
mine reads the labels too

he is 12 ....  he is kind of a health nut. Even raw vegetables? My son likes raw cucumbers, red peppers (not green), frozen peas right out of the bag, carrots.


how about pasta that is part whole grain - (I think Barilla and other brands available in the supermarket have this) does not have the heavier taste of completely whole wheat pasta. Rice? (try different types). natural peanut butter..  will they eat whole grain bread? Fruit (especially if they won't eat vegetables) is good.


My son likes this: I marinate some strips of lean beef in a mixture of soy sauce, a little sugar, some sesame oil, garlic, and scallions (somewhere I have a recipe) and then broil them... it's Korean dish called bulgogi (or my adaptation of this). He eats it with rice.


I try to buy organic when available..sm
because personally I do not like all the additives to nonorganic foods, like hormones, etc. I do believe it is those types of things that are making america obese. but that is just my opinion and I don't want to start anything. I don't like the pesticides either. Organic foods may be expensive, but they sure taste better too. To me, the added cost is worth it. Organic does not mean fewer calories so if dieting, still watch the labels. They are just more natural unaltered foods. JMO
We do buy some organic
and I know they cost more but hubby who does the cooking just seems to like these more than some food items you get. He even buys organic chicken, that is most of our meat supply. Red meat right now is getting a really bad wrap. I love steaks, hardly eat anymore and an occasional pork chop, same here. Vegetables and fruits he buys organic also.
Actually raw/organic/natural is the best
But you do have to watch where the ingredients come from because like one of the posters said they can contract parasites just like humans could if they have bad meat. I've attached a link. I think if you start pets at a young age they will take to the raw food diet, but trying to start an adult cat is difficult.

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/rawpetfood.html
We try to buy organic and in fact
going to the local farmer's market today- we buy chicken like that and also hubs likes to get vegetables and fruits like that also. You are right though- the only way is doing your own farming or knowing where they sell organic.
What are your thoughts on organic foods?
Do you try to buy them wherever possible, or only if you happen to pick them up in error? If you intentionally buy them, why? Do they taste better, are they better for you, do you believe you're helping the environment?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/diet.fitness/04/13/cl.organics/index.html

Organic vs. conventional: What do experts say?




By Amy Spindler
CookingLight.com


The organic market is growing at a steady pace of nearly 20 percent annually, and that translates into organic alternatives in nearly every grocery aisle -- from snack foods to frozen meals to baked goods. "Everyone wants to be healthy and these foods convey an aura of health," says Marion Nestle, Ph.D., professor of nutrition, food studies, and public health at New York University and author of "What to Eat." Here, experts compare some of the benefits and drawbacks of going organic.

Are organic products more nutritious?
A few small studies have shown that some organic foods contain higher nutrient levels than conventional ones. For example, a recent study showed that organic ketchup had 57 percent more of the antioxidant lycopene than regular ketchup. But the wholesale claim that organics are more nutritious than conventional is ahead of the science. "More research is needed before it can be stated that organic foods provide more nutritional value," says Connie Diekman, M.Ed., R.D., director of university nutrition at Washington University in Saint Louis, Missouri.

Organic foods may have other benefits, though. Charles Benbrook, Ph.D., chief scientist at The Organic Center, asserts that some organic products are less processed, which means they may contain fewer chemically adulterated ingredients (think hydrogenated oils, high fructose corn syrup, and preservatives).

Bottom line: "Read labels and look at each product in its own right," Benbrook says. An organic potato chip may contain as many calories and saturated fat grams as a conventional chip. "The price premiums associated with processed organic food are not as great as the premiums charged for organic whole foods," Benbrook says.

Are organic products healthier for the environment?
What's best for the environment is hotly debated among experts. "There is no scientifically accepted evidence that organic foods are better for the environment. Organic production allows natural pesticides, which can be toxic to humans and wildlife," says Alan McHughen, Ph.D., professor of botany and plant sciences at the University of California, Riverside. Organic fertilizers may also contain harmful bacteria, such as E. coli. Plus, organic farming yields only 75 to 90 percent of the crop of conventional systems, meaning that more land must be planted in order to have an equal return.

Organic advocates counter that chemicals used in conventional farming spread far beyond the fields where they are applied and have unintended consequences. "Synthetic pesticides have been linked to developmental and neurological problems," Benbrook says. "Organics eliminate synthetic pesticides and the damage they do to farmers, land, and drinking water."

Organic regulations also prohibit the use of genetic modification -- another thorny issue with as-yet unclear implications for the environment.

Bottom line: Focus on foods' benefit to your immediate environmen -- i.e. your body -- first. "A good diet means variety, balance, and moderation, regardless of the farming method that produced the food," McHughen says.

I buy organic catnip (right in my grocery store) and
take a big pinch of it, rub it between your fingers hard to release the fragrance, then rub it right into the post - rub in your case. The fresher, the better. I've never known a cat not to eat it.
Most larger wine stores have a whole organic/vegetarian section of wines. Good stuff! nm
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It's nice, but food prices insane and food is really bad,
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My cat only eats dog food and won't eat cat food or even tuna.
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I am using Angel Food Network for help with food (sm)
Being much more careful not to waste food. No more fast food. Soda only if bought in a two-liter bottle, not singles or fountain. Most of my money waste was spent on food.
Pet food recall -- dog food and cat food
http://us.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_Page.jsp?pageID=PCA&articleID=300003
My dog loves coconut oil right off the spoon. Try the health food store. Sometimes in food store,
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Puppy eating cat food, cats eating puppy food...
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Cats eat Felidae, Puppy eats Canidae... or at least that is how it is supposed to be.

Both species eat mainly dry, but puppy gets wet at night when she is in "her room" (kitties do not go in puppy's room at night).

I cannot keep kitties out of Candiae and I cannot keep puppy out of Felidae

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cat food
My dog eats the cat food all the time, no problems.  I was actually told that when dogs are sick and won't eat it is good to give them cat food because it is so tasty to them.  My cat also will eat the moist dog food with no problem.  I wouldn't worry about it.
dry cat food
Please please educate yourself on your animal companion's needs when it comes to diet and nutrition, please read below article for some exceptional insight into our cats and their food requirements. This is only one site, but there are many more that support these facts.

http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/bpo_ch4.php
I don't put anything on my food....
except maybe a little salt and butter on my veggies.  No ketchup, no mustard, no mayo, no syrup on my pancakes, just a tiny bit of salad dressing to taste.  Been that way my entire life.
Sorry. I was only looking for the food rec
and didn't see the sad stuff.
Red food dye #5 in the food. sm
Most dog foods have red food dye in them and many labs and lab mixes are allergic to red food dye. Try finding a food without the red food dye and give it a couple of weeks. You'll probably see a HUGE difference.
pet food
Iams is giving away free pet food if you register at
iamspromise.com thought I would share for all you pet lovers
Cat food

Has anyone fed their cat Science Diet's CD dry food for FUS? My 8-year-old male, Sam, has been on this for about 5 years with no recurrence of FUS. To keep him away from any other type of food, I have fed the other two the same; however, we now are up to 6 cats, 4 males/2females, and it is getting too expensive. Thinking I could feed all of them a very good dry food and add some CD to Sam's, but cannot decide what would be a good choice.


Thank you.


I never put pet food out just to put out but
I was going to try to feed the Great Dane (she ran off before I could get outside). I am not really in country, have close neighbors but woods behind our homes and see deer and such in the neighborhood (out in my yard twice since 2004). There is a wildlife preserve a few streets away where the other animals seen including geese, deer and the coyotes. I just try to feed all animals who come in the yard-if they act friendly enough.
Food
Fish.....baked, fried, broiled, grilled....
Always have food with him.
I haven't been there since the 1980s, and even then the cheapest food we could find in a restaurant was about a $9 hamburger!
What is it with the food?
We got very nice gifts this year but also ended up with more food items than usual; Harry and David Moose Munch, Hickory Farms fudge, Harry and David truffles, Harry and David double chocolate cashews, homemade cookies, and a homemade carrot cake loaf! It is all really good, but I have a belly ache from eating all of this stuff. Not to mention I will surely pack on the pounds if I keep eating it. LOL
NS food sm
I thought most of the food was fine. You can choose what you'd like by going to their website. It's very easy, it keeps track of what you have and need to get still (like how many desserts, or lunches, etc) Believe it or not, their hambergers (IMO) were delicious!!! Good luck!! You will find yourself not able to eat all of what you are supposed. I liked NS, but it just got expensive for me (not really that bad, but I have a hubby and two kids and still needed to do grocercy shopping trips for them).
Food
She could cook her host family a meal of foods common to America that they may be unfamiliar with.

This isn't as diverse but maybe as a reminder of her she could give them a state tree, state flower, or other from her hometown.
food
Pork Rinds

Tripe

Velveeta

Cheez Whiz

Prune Juice


dog food
You are correct, the grocery store pet food is all pretty poor quality filled with carcinogens and unhealthy carbs and anything else in the slaughter house not fit for human consumption. Someone opened my eyes to these ingredients about 5 years ago and I was horrified. Google commercial pet food ingredients. I feed all my animals human grade holistic pet food, yes more expensive, but they eat less and have a lot less health problems eliminating expensive vet visits so in the long run it is cost effective. Some great ones are New Balance, Wellness, Innova, California Natural, Solid Gold to name a few. I consider myself an expert on this subject after educating myself after my beloved collie died of cancer, could kick myself because it never occurred to me to wonder what was in her food, just figured it was good, NOT! If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. You are always so helpful in your tech answers, maybe I can help you in this one area. Good luck.
What food do you not like to eat?

This is the food that I refuse to eat:


Carbonated beverages
Mayo (Mayonnaise)
Tomatoes
Onion
Spicy Food
Jalapeņos
Plain Milk (In cereal it is ok)
Bananas
Beer
champagne
soy milk
coffee
olives
hot peppers
green & red peppers
parmesan cheese
blue cheese salad dressing
raspberry vinaigrette salad dressing
spinach
coconut
mango
tofu
eggplant
yams
cottage cheese
artificial cheese (Mac & Cheese in a box)
cheese flavor gold fish crackers (Bad memory when I got sick as a kid from eating too many)


There is probably more, but this is what I can think of now.


Food Stamps
I just got back from the store and the lady in front of me had 2 small kids and paid with food stamps.  When I was loading my groceries in my car, she was putting her children in car seats and driving a BRAND NEW CADILLIAC ESCALDE!!  This thing was LOADED!  Grrrrrrrr! 
Maybe she was buying food for someone?
If your car is above a certain value, you don't qualify for food stamps.

She may have buying food for someone with their food stamps/food stamp card.




Ask your vet which food they ALL can eat. BTDT nm.
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food stamps
The thing is that some people do abuse the system and always will.  But I do think there are people who really need help sometimes. 
how about chewing food?
or worse yet, drinking (slurping) quite rude, I think!
I was at all inclusive but had the food out from
there and what I had was delicious. One side trip we took was a trip up the river and a BBQ dinner in a cleared out space. I did not stay exclusively in the all inclusive, too much to see in the shopping, restaurants, etc. I really would go back again. That is 1 trip that I really loved.
It is probably food related.
Have you switched foods lately? Most gas is food related in dogs and cats. High quality can still give the toots.
My cat is in the ICU due to poisoned food.
My cat is in the hospital with an IV due to kidney failure.  I have tried twice to call Menu Foods to find out about filing a claim to cover the vet bill, but no one has called back.  My poor cat is the innocent and has to suffer at the hands of whoever put the poison in the wheat gluten.  Has anyone who is experiencing this with their pet been able to get through?  I'm heartbroken that I may lose her.  Even though I have two dogs, the house seems lonely. 
Poisoned Food
My heart aches for you. I hope your cat pulls through and you get the vet bills paid by the people responsible. This is just horrible. I am lucky, my furkid didn't eat any of the brands that were in question. I was so scared until I had gone over the list. We rescued our baby girl 4 years ago and she is like the baby of our home now. We think of her as one of our children (she acts like one of our children) I don't know what in the world I would do if we lost her. I would be sick. You will be in my prayers. I pray it the outcome is good. Bless the furry ones. :)
? for you, if not worm food, then what? sm
How exactly are you going to avoid becoming worm food. Are you not going to be buried...cremated and kept in a jar is the only thing I can think of I guess unless you are going to stuffed and stuck in the living room as decoration. The poster above is indeed correct that we all become worm food (unless of course you go with my stuffing idea). Regardless of religious beliefs, if your buried, it's going to happen.

Ps. I have not been hit by a lightening bolt yet so don't worry, although you might get some of my anti-christ cooties if you're not careful ROLF!
Pet Food Update

Just saw this on my internet start page and would like to share: 


By ANDREW BRIDGES - Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON(AP) Recalled pet foods contained a chemical used to make plastics, but government tests failed to confirm the presence of rat poison, federal officials said Friday.


The Food and Drug Administration said it found melamine in samples of the Menu Foods pet food, as well as in wheat gluten used as an ingredient. Cornell University scientists also have found the chemical, also used as a fertilizer, in the urine of sick cats, as well as in the kidney of one cat that died after eating the company's wet food.


Menu Foods recalled 60 million containers of cat and dog food earlier this month after animals died of kidney failure after eating the Canadian company's products. It is not clear how many pets may have been poisoned by the apparently contaminated food, although anecdotal reports suggest hundreds if not thousands have died. The FDA alone has received more than 8,000 complaints.


The new finding comes a week after scientists at the New York State Food Laboratory identified a rat poison and cancer drug called aminopterin as the likely culprit. The FDA said it could not confirm that finding.


New York officials have detected melamine as well, though it's not clear how that chemical would have poisoned pets. It's typically used to produce plastic kitchen wares, though it's apparently used as a fertilizer in Asia, said Stephen F. Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine.


The recall involved nearly 100 brands of "cuts and gravy" style dog and cat food made by Menu Foods. The recall covered products carrying names of major brand-name and private-label products sold throughout North America.


The apparently melamine-contaminated wheat gluten also was shipped to an unnamed company that manufactures dry pet food. The FDA is attempting to determine if that product, imported from China, was used to make any pet food, Sundlof said.


Food should be passed to the right, or

counter-clockwise, For additional information on dining etiquette, please consult Manners 2000 Volume I Social Graces and Table Manners Video.


Unfortunately veterinarians are not pet food--sm
experts, and neither are pet care industry workers. They, like doctors, suggest nutrician primarily from those companies that sponsor them, just like the pharmaceutical companies do with human medications. Vets are not nutritionists and they do not know everything either. If they are given a break on the cost of pet foods, of course they are going to suggest it to their patients. Do some research and you will find that Iams and Science Diet has had many complaints against them in the past, and you can read some of them right here with this posting. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but personally, I would not feed this food to anyone or anything.
Same here; especially Paula's food...
I say to my husband it's no wonder she looks like that - look what she's making now. lol. I don't care for all that fat either. I looked up her recipes and found chicken pot pie, fried bisquits, deep fried turkey, fried cream corn!, deep fried cheesecake!, macaroni and cheese, fried empanadas with cheese dip! Do people down south really eat like that? I probably eat stuff like that twice a year.
FOOD IS NEEDED!
I volunteer at a food cupboard twice a month. Today I went in to fill requests for families in need, and the shelves of our little interfaith cupboard were nearly empty. It was a struggle to get together some basic items for four families.

This is a problem with food cupboards all over the country. At holiday times, food drives are held and shelves are full. Even during the school year, more donations come in as school and youth groups run food drives to help those in need. But during summer, donations slow to a trickle as people are busy with summertime activities or away on vacation. Food drives are forgotten, but people still need your help.

If you can, please consider donating to your local food cupboard. Anything you can give would be appreciated. Even a couple boxes of cereal or a jar of peanut butter can make a difference!
Dog food ingredients..sm

One of my dogs has a corn allergy - causes sneezing, wheezing, coughing, skin welts with itching.  I also stay away from meat and poultry by-products.  I used to order his food from Drs Foster and Smith.  After a long search, I finally found a dog food I can buy at Tractor Supply that meets his needs, and they have a weight management formula too - he is about 10 pounds overweight.


LOL!! Should be dog food (not foot!!!) nm
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