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I never intended to start and argument...

Posted By: Kendra on 2008-12-24
In Reply to: I do try to be there for him....sm - sm

just trying to put some other perspective out there. Do whatever you want, but since you asked for opinions, I gave mine. If you disagree, fine by me, that's okay. I just try to keep in mind that parents are not perfect. Mine are not and I am not. I hope that my son can forgive me my mistakes someday.


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I promise I am not trying to start an argument
but it seems to come down to choosing son's best friend or daughter's best friend. She plainly stated that the girl has been throwing herself at the boy. I would be much more concerned about who my daughter is hanging around if that is the way she conducts herself.
No pun intended?? lol. nm
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Amen! (No pun intended.) sm
There are bad people who believe in god and there are good people that believe in god. There are also good people who don't believe in god and bad people who don't believe in god. Belief or nonbelief is not the dividing factor in determining whether a person is good or not. How people conduct themselves with their own free will is the determining factor.
No offense to you intended, but
that is pretty much a no brainer. Of course they were degrading to her; she was degrading herself, so what to expect? I'm not trying to be down on people who do this for a living. I know there is great money to be made, but at the cost of self respect (usually, not always) and no respect from the clientele (almost always, whether or not the stripper is aware of this). Some people thrive on the attention (my cousin-in-law, for example, who brags about every male in the neighborhood wanting to 'do' her, etc. -- used to be a stripper and loved every minute of it; wishes she could still do it) Personally, I have had many a time where I was made to feel dirty by men, and I was not stripping for them or anything else. Leering just makes me uneasy, to say the least. Also, of the few strippers personally known to me, I always hear the same thing -- had to be drunk to do the job (again, not always the case, but it is what I have been told by several of them). Now, I have always said, if the men are s t u p i d enough, have at it and glad for those who make the money off of that, but I could never go there.
mother nature never intended for YOU to
It was something that just happened to you. You choosing feels unnatural because it is, and it won't ever feel natural. BUT no one cares if you have a baby or not if you really want to keep your freedom. Babies are a lot of work.
For those people with school aged children when do vacations start to dwindle and you start getting
ready for school.  I usually take a vacation when things slow down at the end of Summer and I am just wondering when in August most people start getting into school things and less vacations are taken. 
This is an argument that cannot be won between

An argument between
When is it time for Mom to step in? I've been trying to let my 3rd grade son handle this kid, which just so happens to be our next door neighbor, on his own, but lately the arguing is getting worse.  They got into a *you're stupid, no you're stupid, no your mom's stupid* match today, which the bus driver had to break up.  I called the other mom, but she seemed unconcerned.  I just told my son not to talk to the other kid, and also asked the other mom to have her kid to the same thing with my son.  Anything else I should do? Just let it go for now and see what happens? Thanks for y'all's advice...
That has become a big argument in

favor of homosexuality.  I understand that argument.  For someone who believes that God said don't do it and they are against it for that reason, it is still morally wrong, even though it may be your perception that it doesn't hurt anybody. 


Again, the issue is not fear, but opposition.  That's all I'm saying.  Does anybody get the point? 


In MHO when they start asking its time to start explaining.
My daughter and I started discussing the basics in like second or third grade.

Good luck it was much harder for me with my son.
Your argument works against you.

Your pastor "interpreted" something else and twisted it to tell you what he wanted.  The Bible does not say to not marry outside your race. 


"Interpreting" things is what causes the problem. 


In the Bible, God said we are all sinners.  (Don't know why you are yelling.)  Don't shoot the messenger. 


No my argument is to people who say

The Bible is written in a way to describe our creation.  It is interpreted by many to how they want it to be.  I do not read it enough to know what it says about same gender sex.  Does anyone know the exact scripture?  If so, let's hear it.  I want to hear where it says "same gender sex is a sin" in those words.  Did anyone ever think that there are people who are in same gender relationships but do not have sex.  There are heterosexual marriages and relationships where sex does not exist, so why couldn't that be true for a same gender relationship? 


 


I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
Never an argument and yes we both can hear and talk
and I have heard people saying marriage was hard. My husband and I do not understand this as we are extremely happily married, wouldn’t trade him for all the tea in China and I think he best fits Prince Charming. Oh, let me back that up. He is short,
probably about an inch or 2 taller than me,sorta balding on top, does not have a 6-pack so I would think for lots of females he would be overlooked. Good.
I meant "an" argument. NM
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Dear whoever started the toddler argument below...
and everyone else who felt they had to respond with petty bickering and hijack an otherwise amusing thread....let it gooooooo. Deep breath....there ya' go? Feel better?

Thanks.
I was reading about this yesterday to settle an argument, and Patti is exactly right.

Moderator, I am not the one who continued that argument. I made one comment which was SM
deleted. I am almost in tears over this. You have made a terrible, terrible mistake. I make no crude remarks to moderators, ever, ever.  I am the one who posted about the beautiful dog at the ASPCA and talk of almost nothing else. I want you to check your addresses and personaly apologize to me. You have made a grave mistake in what you jus posted. I have thanked moderators in the past and have actually posted a few days ago saying I don't understand why people have to be so mean. You need to be accurate before you accuse me.
im the one who started this conversation. things always lead to an argument on this board.
but, i have friends who never started teh santa thing, and then i have friends who still practice the santa tradition. i never questioned myself. i just did as i had been raised. but i understand how some people just dont even start santa. its cool either way. and no one has to agree...everyone is different, i respect differences. but there has got to be a cut off point for puplic school teachers, to step back and leave things for teh parents. yes other kids tell them the truth about santa and, at least i have taught my children that its "bologna..if they dont believe, they dont get presents...bla bla"..so tehy have no prob blowing that off. but when their TEACHER says it, it might as well be the GOSPEL. ya know.
I think we are going to start having more
play dates with my sister's dog. She is an adorable mix that looks like a border collie, and my sister's hubby does not allow spoiling of mere dogs. Therefore, any time we have pet sit for them, this young dog has had a wonderful time, though Misha found her a bit, um, disrespectul to her queenliness, but it was just inexperienced puppy excitement My sister lives 5 minutes away, and it was my sister's idea. So when we go to a park, if I feel like doing 2 dogs, I'll go get her. When we want to go to a pet store or other more civilized place, then I'll just take my well-mannered Sasha.
Where to start. -
I have 2 teenage boys and yes I so agree with you there. If I have to tell them one more time to put a belt on that I do not want to see their underwear I am going to scream.

Another one is people who say K-Marts and Wal-Marts. There is no "s" on the end of these stores. I drives me crazy!
You know what I would start saying? (sm)
"Oh my goodness!! You better knock - one day you're gonna walk in and see me naked!! LOL! Maybe also put a little note on the door that says "please knock". that way it is to everyone and not just them.
I could start doing that...
We have a baby that still takes naps so it would be for everyone too...and especially knowing we have a little one they continue to do this anyways...barge right in and yell HELLO...good grief...can't wait until we move---LOL
Where does it start? sm
What I mean is, where is the line drawn between helping and enabling? I'm not talking drinking, etc. There's no drinking or drugs involved, just an 18 year old son who started community college because his h.s. grades were too bad for a four-year, hasn't made it to school on time more than a handful of times since September, finally got his driver's license (after our driving him to and from school 30 miles away for two months), and two weeks later totaled the car in a rollover. No ticket - he swerved to avoid a squirrel. He has no job, puts in an occasional application. But he's obviously not ready to live on his own. How do we know if we're helping or enabling him?
Well, where should I start?...sm

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The Birdcage 


8 heads in a duffel bag 


Sister Act


Meet the Parents


Monty Python and the Holy Grail (that's a given)


To Wong Foo


Stir Crazy


Bananas 


Miss Congeniality


I could go on and on.... Cat


How do you start on that? I went there..

Do you just make a profile, introduce yourself, and then go on your own diet?  It seems like a good place to check back in for support.  Is there anything else there I didn't find?


Looking for help on where to start
over.  I've decided to leave my husband and will be searching the internet for affordable places to live, etc.  I would prefer to live in warmer climate year round.  Any ideas, sugesstions would be appreciated.  This has been a long time coming and I'm tired of this battle.  Thanks for your feedback.  Please fee free to Email me if you would prefer.
Start here
Read this article and check some of the links.

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/09/14/debt_consolidation/
what age did this start?
I am 42. My NP said that sometimes husbands refer their wives for hormones. I just told her at my house they just make fun of me until I realize that I am skipping off the cliff.
As soon as they start asking! sm
My mother never spoke to me about things when I was young. Maybe, if she had, I wouldn't have been a single mother in my teens.

I am completely honest with my kids about everything. What good does it do to lie? If some think it protects them, it won't.

My kids are all pretty much grown now but they have all told me that they appreciate my honesty about my past because it means more coming from someone who has been through it, not just telling them not to do something.

I trust my kids but I don't expect them to be perfect. There will be mistakes and errors in judgement, it happens.

Only one has gotten into any trouble (minor in possession) and has never had any trouble since then, graduated from high school, joined the military, and now married.

Trust me, I wasn't really comfortable talking about it with my kids but I felt I was doing them a favor and hopefully preventing them from the same or worse.
Where to start?

I could use some help finding a starting point.


Background:
Yesterday I called a friend and found out she is wanting to leave her DH. She has 2 kids. One 6 and one 2 yo.


Her complaints:


1. He will not spend any time with the kids.


2. He will not spend any time with her. He told her "Haven't you noticed when I have something to do (hunting or spending time with guys) I get off work at 2:30. When I have to be with you, I work until 6:30."


3. Money. They have not made their Jan. house payment, yet he has money to go out.


She has begged him to go to marriage counseling or at least talk to her about the problems. He refuses. She told him she was going to leave. He told her she was not and makes fun of her abut it.


OK, she wants to know some of the laws about leaving. Especially pertaining to taking the kids to another state. As far as I know there is no physical abuse. I would like to help her at least look up stuff online, if such stuff is indeed online. She does not have internet.


Where to start? Any advice? She wants to have her ducks in a row by the end of thie school year.


TIA


Here's a start...sm
See the link below and please read it carefully, by which I mean following the links in the article as well.

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=498

As for Obama's rep as the "abortion president", etc., perhaps you don't watch the news but I presume you know how to use Google and won't have any problem educating yourself on that score. And please remember, I don't sign the executive orders...he does.
Where do I start
Sorry to get you all excited, but I don't have the time or energy to go into it all now ... I will just say it all starts from noticing some things don't add up. You accidentally catch them and then just set out to prove it to yourself.
This will start a thread about who does not like her
but I was reminded when I saw your post about seeing Sylvia Browne in person 1 time. She said if someone toxic, no matter who they were, your own son, you should exclude them. I truly believe this to be the case.
It all has to start somewhere doesn't it?
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Maybe if you start a fire in your
fireplace, your swamp cooler will be more effective!

Either that or get a dehumidifier.

I hate humidity also, and here I am in NC. Would you believe that when people are sick they sometimes run HUMIDIFIERS HERE?? Makes no sense to me when they could just step outside most of the time, and we have enough fungus amongus, LOL.
Now he just came in and asked me to start over (sm)
He hugged me and said, "do you want to let's start over?" (which we have been through so many times) and I said, "how do we start over? I lose weight and get super-organized?" and he said, "Well, not SUPER organized."
Here in mid-TN they start the first of August, sm
Unfortunately, the temps have been 100+ and messing up the air-conditioning, so some school districts were just going half days, also no air-conditioning on buses.

Local university started classes today.
Where Did the MyBad start at?
I keep hearing the younger generation saying this and it isn't even proper english.Where did it start and When. What made me think of it I just seen a commercial for Macys and JS unpluged the radio and she said MyBad. I get onto my kids and Grandkids for saying it I tell them it isn't proper english and to talk right.I know its slang but dang its stupi*d.

Were you always in shape before that or did you start at 49? nm
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Anyone start Atkins on Jan 1?
I'm doing it again......Atkins that is. I started January 2 and have lost 6 pounds, yea! I want to lose about 30. Anyone else start it that wants to encouarge each other on here? I can't find a dieting forum, so hope it's okay to put it on the gab board. Think I'll go eat some chicken!
But if you are going to change, have to start some
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I definitely will let you know when I start seeing results! I sm
am usually a quitter when it comes to stuff like this b/c I'm so busy with work, home, kids, but I am not giving up this time even if I don't start seeing results in 3 months!
I start feeling bad when #s go into the 60-70s. Had
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Thank you everyone! What a great start to my day
I can't thank you all enough for your kind words and hugs here today. I figure today is the last day of bad stress since tomorrow is my husband's final hearing and we received the report from the court that the children will stay here, but the child support and financial issue stands on the table for tomorrow. So today is the last day I can be subpoenaed (the ex always subpoenas at the last minute) and after today's "knock on the door" and tomorrow's judge decision, maybe things will let up. But you are all right about counting blessings and so nice for saying I am strong and everything. Just knowing there are people out there understanding, especially MTs (who I value opinions) it will help me get through the next few days. Thank you! And BTW: The birds are fine today and DH cleaned the living room! Today is another day. But I will refer back to this often. And thank you so very much! :)
It is going to hurt less if you just say no at the start.
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my way to start to achieve this.
human scum who abuse innocent, defenseless children and animals should be quietly eliminated.
And just wait until they start using your DNA sm
to profile everyone for genetic health risks. I see that day coming. Some states already are proposing creating a "DNA databank" for newborns....
Again, thanks to all of you. I was gong to start s/m
drinking soy milk, which I understand is to really help, but I will look for the pill form of the ACV today. Here's to feeling better! 
Any words that start with th come out ht
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Let's start a why do they thread!
Why do they make spice jar openings to small for a measuring spoon?

Why to they pkg 8 hot dogs and then pkg 6 buns? you never catch up!

Why does yellow mustard opening plug up and when you shake it, it squirts yellow oil?

Why do credit card cos send blank checks through the mail, forcing you to open all of it?

okay next?