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I think old docs may still have them but I haven't seen younger docs with

Posted By: them. nm on 2007-03-17
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Please understand, being that you are younger than how long I have smoked, docs
used to ENCOURAGE it - I am sure others can remember.  Doc sitting with a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket and suggesting it for best stress reliever.  Do I blame them?  No, not at all.  I truly feel that cancer is such a huge money machine that medicine would be hurting poorly if a cure was actually found (or disclosed).  And, as you have not smoked before, you are entirely correct in that you cannot understand.    
Docs
Have you ever been to a doctor's office and the nurse asks you some pertinent information, and you might say "I have had a TAH&BSO" or a D&C, and the nurse will say "What is that?" I just freak, I know I have been doing this for 20+ years, but sometimes I wonder if the nurse is really a nurse- yes I know some can be aids or physician taught, but I think I would just take the info down, reassure the patient and find out what it was when I left the room.

Yes I have tried to tell a doctor who may be filling in for my reg doc what has helped with migraines and severe back problems, and I swear they will give me something totally different because they think I am drug seeking. If they would just really listen or look at what you do on the occupation sheet which they make you fill out, things might go a little smoother in everyone's life.
ESL docs have got to be the funniest!
I have one who always says "patient lives alone at home by himself." Another one seems beyond being able to use correct medical terminology for bodily functions. All his patients "poop" and "pee." The kids also have "snotty noses."
They say docs won't treat them?
geez, I'm afraid...
You would be surprised what docs can
get away with in a hospital setting. Been there.
don't believe the docs....Jerry Lewis has this

Sorry for your news and I know this doesn't answer your question (yet), but I have to say just because an MD says someone has used up 2 out of 5....doesn't make it sure that's going to happen.....many people live beyond what the doctors say.....


Jerry Lewis has pulmonary fibrosis and was a mess a few years ago (and IS aging) but is doing much better he said in comparison to that time....


As for what I'd want to do?  Just be with the ones I love the most and do some traveling........making sure to say the things to the loved ones prior to my demise...in other words, making sure I got it all out and cleared all the air if there might be air to clear.......and so that all questions from everyone would be answered prior to my demise, to leave nobody with unanswered questions about just about anything and everything....


Reminder:  MDs are not god(s)......they have been wrong....they told my friend her father had *6 months to live max*, and he lived on another 3+ years....


My docs seem to be playing catch-up. I see it as
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I know, most docs really don't adequately warn you (sm)
I went from having a moderately light, 4 day period, to having a very heavy 7 day period! I also had a lot of the other symptoms associated with post tubal ligation syndrome. I wish I had done more research first! I think it is better for him to have a vasectomy - far, far easier and less recovery time too.
Docs need to warn more about complications sm
Docs sometimes do not explain complications of drug interactions, they are way too rushed. Also, the drugs were prescribed in another country. The label on the Xanax said 2 mg, not strong enough to kill anyone. Lots of side effects from Ambien, although used correctly, it's a wonder drug. First time I was bluntly told I had "cancer" and needed surgery "yesterday" I couldn't sleep and Ambien 5 mg was a lifesaver to me, I went to sleep within minutes and woke up refreshed with no ill effects, it is a wonder drug to me, but many in my community have gotten into trouble with the law from mixing it with alcohol and doing terrible things. It sounds like this person was very distraught and it was an accident, pure and simple. He was a talented person who was going through so much pain. He loved his little girl so much, it must have been heart wrenching for him. I am not going to judge him, I just hope he and his family can be at peace if that is at all possible in this cruel world (for the family) and in the next (for him). God bless them all!
I think if they penalized the docs signing off

fewer people getting it.  I worked an oncology office and we had people all the time wanting these forms filled out.  Yes, some were legitimate, but the majority were people with anemia, thrombocytopenia or status post their cancers in complete remission.  My doc never signed unless the person absolutely was entitled to it.  I think if more docs got a backbone and quit signing off on these, you'd see a lot less people getting disability. 


It's the normal instinct for Americans to "take what they can get", but what excuse do the docs have for signing off on it? 


First off, what kinds of tests have the docs run???....sm
When my son Adam was 14, he came down with severe aches, light sensitivity, sore throat off and on, EXTREME FATIGUE, etc. His doctor suspected mono and did a Monospot to check this out, complete white count with diff, and also EB virus serologies. and Yup, he did have mono, it took a couple of months to get him over the worst. Lots of rest, good eating habits, and multivitamins is all you can do until the virus gets erradicated. And no contact sports or heavy activities, because the spleen gets very enlarged during mono and they worry about rupture with a blow, etc.

If no tests have been done, I would get a good pediatrician ASAP who will do a CBC with diff, white count, sed rate, UA, EBV serologies and Monospot, and get him diagnosed!! The ear thing may or may not be a part of this, could be a concurrent illness on its own, but if he has been this sick this long, "guessing" at the etiology is wasting time, you need to know for sure what exactly is wrong with your son to treat him properly.

Not trying to be an alarmist, but have raised two and my third is 11 right now so have been through the Streps, pneumonias, my third baby was born with vesicoureteral reflux and needed prophylactic antibiotics the first year of life (he outgrew it right after that, thank God, but we spent 8 days of he!! in the hospital as they put the 3-week old through spinal taps and ALL TYPES of tests, two weeks in hospital with my little girl at 5 years with severe double pneumonia, etc!). Hopefully, if it is mono/EBV, he will recover really quickly, but YOU also need to put your mind at rest, too! Take good care of each other, and update us, okay??? God Bless
Most docs stink these days. And they think everyone is a hypochondriac
if they can't figure out what you have. Good luck to you and I hope you feel better and you find a decent doctor (good luck with that too!)
but I do believe fibro can be a catchall diagnosis when docs can't (sm)
figure out what's wrong with you!
Working my butt off, all my docs went nuts -sm
have about 180 minutes of dictation to do.......interuptions galore over the weekend so hard to work! Hope to watch the game though, we will see, definitely watching half-time as I love Tom Petty and have since I was 12! (so 30 years). Cannot wait for that especially since not sure if I will go to see him on his upcoming tour as he is coming to my area on a Sunday and kids want to go too, but they would have school the next day and the show is about 90 minutes away from me. So not sure what I am going to do yet.

I hate when the docs say foul smelling diarrhea
when does diarrhea ever not smell foul??? I also hate when they say creamy white sputum - makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
Older than stated age, pendulous breasts, and docs who...
use elderly for anyone under 70!
I hear wrong dosages all day long from nurses who dictate for docs -
Maybe they are just misspeaking, maybe they really do not know? Really alarming!!!
younger men
My husband is 5 years younger, no problem with age here. My kids get a kick out of it and tell dad that Mom's the boss, because she's older!!
Younger Men
Age is only an indication of how long we have been on this earth.  It does not determine our level of intellect, experience, class or style.   As long as he is an adult and meets your standards and expectations, that is all that matters.  I have seen older me that are a mess and younger ones that are a mess.  It is a very individual thing.  My husband is 8 years younger and we have a wonderful marriage. 
when i was younger
had to move from our home because the owner wanted to remodel. we had been there 5 years.
I'm 7 yrs younger.
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Wish I had read this when I was younger!
Everything you said was on the mark. Thanks for a great post!
Although I'm several years younger than you (47) I would
say that you are already working at your marriage. You keep the little spats from becoming big arguments, you have a good relationship with your husband, you trust each other, you enjoy his company and he enjoys yours. All of these things are what I consider working at marriage. Those who don't "work" on these things often end up divorced or miserable. Just thank God that you have a wonderful husband and a good marriage. I wouldn't worry too much about "working" on your marriage. Sounds like you're doing a good job of that already.
Why she might be interested in younger men . . .
It sounds like your mother was devastated when your father died. Wow! Nearly 50 years together! If they had a happy marriage, she probably misses that closeness and wants to experience that again. And, maybe she's looking for younger men, because someone much younger is not likely to die before her. That means, she wouldn't have to experience the pain of being widowed again.
My uncle died just recently. He had been married to his second wife for just two years. His first wife died of cancer five years ago. And his second wife was widowed seven years earlier. When I spoke to his wife after the funeral, she talked about how horrible it was to be widowed twice, and that she didn't want to go through that ever again. But, she also talked about how lucky she was to have experienced two wonderful marriages.
Maybe your mother is looking for the same.... she wants another wonderful love in her life, but she's afraid of being a widow again. That would be reasonable, I think. However, she definitely sounds gullible, and she's looking for love in the wrong place! Has she had any grief counseling? Maybe you can talk to her about what it is she's really looking for. People do things because they are trying to fulfill needs. They repeat behaviors because there's some sort of payoff for what they're doing. She's getting something like a "sugar rush" when she meets these men online. Briefly, her fantasy is fulfilled. But, when the truth is revealed, she's devastated again. I know I'm sounding like a Psych 101 graduate, but that's really what it sounds like to me. She keeps doing this, because she likes that sugar rush. There has to be a way to break that, and to really find a way for her to be comfortable with herself.
I'm so sorry for her pain. She must be so sad after having lost her husband.
yes, she did have talent when much younger.....

She had talent when she was still a good girl........when she still had morals and ethics before choosing her so-many-wrong-paths.


just my opinion.......


Yep - love those younger men *lol*
  And I wouldn't have it any other way.....
I'm with man 4 yrs younger. Nothing wrong with it.
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I love younger men
they seem happier and more spontaneous!  I dated one 3 years younger (no big deal), I also dated one 5 years younger. Go for it, if that is why you are asking. 
I am 50! You are younger than me. How is that for positive??? nm
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Younger smartmouth
My stepson is only 5 years old and he is so disrespectful about backtalking. But God forbid if I say anything about it because my husband will jump down my throat. He lets that child get away with murder. He never punishes him by time out or anything. I just feel like by the time he gets 11 years old, he will be horrible. So I am pretty sure that this kid's parents just do not do anything about his smart mouth just like my husband does nothing about his kid's smart mouth. I just dont' get it.
In my younger days
I did a lot of drugs.
When my kids were a bit younger
I would always walk up to school at the end of the day and walk them home. One of my daughter's friends would walk with us and nearly every day ask if she could come over to play after school. I would nearly always say, oh, I don't care. She thought that was so cool - her mom always cared and it was always NO! I say, it's their house too, they can have anyone over if we are going to be home. If they aren't embarassed at the mess, I'm not either.
24.... 10 years younger!!! nm
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I LOVE younger men. Seems like all the ones I like,
Glad to be a cougar!
How many years younger?
Mine is 10 and the best thing I have run across.
13 years younger and....
FABULOUS. I never thought I'd have so much in common with someone so much younger but he's turned out to be a definite keeper.

I think younger guys are the best thing around...They're definitely the best angi-aging remedy around, lol!!!

GO COUGARS!!! :)
I'm not the younger generation and I don't sew either
I'm 46 and with the exception of a button here or there, I don't sew either. I also don't iron. My mother did all of those things, it just never trickled over to me. Now, my daughter can sew a few things and her best friend has her own sewing machine and sews quite well.
My younger left at almost 30 and
I hope they do fine and can maintain their own lives outside of mine. I love my own life, I travel quite a bit, do the things I want and to me the child rearing years not half as satisfying as my life is now.
Depends on what age 20 yrs younger is (sm)
If he is early 20s, I say he would probably be temporary. If he is 30 and you're 50...it could possibly work out.

19 months younger - nm
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I am 6.5 years younger than my DH - sm
I have a friend who was about 8 years younger, she warned me not to do it as her DH never wanted to go anywhere or so anything. My DH likes to stay home but likes to go out and do stuff too, so that is not an issue for us. My dad is 12 years older than my step-mom, so for it is working for them, will see what happens when he gets infirm. (74/62)
For you younger gals out there. That K-Fed is hysterical! sm

I just read about his party in Chicago (I ran out of work!) and they were GIVING AWAY tickets to his concert last night! He got on stage and with his pants almost to his knees started rapping that he was "single" and if any ladies wanted to be with a pimp! haha! Yeah, what -idiot- would want to be with a guy who has a 2 year old with one woman, and 2 other kids under 2 with another woman (Brittney Spearks) PLUS has another 4 or 5 year old too! What is that - 5 kids?! Hilarious.


And, to boot, he's not making any money with this rap debut and Brittney will pay him 180,000 total in spousal support. Poor guy..


I've just never in my life been embarrassed for someone after reading a story about them! Good night. He was in a VIP room in Chicago letting his "entourage" try on his many gold chains. Isn't that the funniest fricken thing you've ever heard?! Well, he was probably trying to sell them to people so he could pay his child support. Which will be plenty when he's through divorcing.


Yeah, I want to be with a pimp  like that. NOT!


The younger ones tend to have more 'stamina.' If the 2 of you get

ENJOY!


When they were younger I just worked while they napped - sm
and late into the night. So maybe 3 hours during the day, then from 9-1 or 2. I had a lot more stamina then, can't do that anymore. They are in school now, work about 5-7 hours during the day now and 2-3 hours at night after dinner (8-10 or 11), squeeze it in as early as I can in the evening as DH usually makes dinner, though I dish it out and the kids and I sit down to dinner together (DH eats later). As I don't have a set schedule this works out very well for me. I plan to alter this for the summer though somewhat by still working 2-3 hours at night, but get up early @ 5 or so, and try to be done my work by 9 a.m. so I can have the days totally free to do as I please with the kids. It will be a bit tiring, and I don't have to do this every day, but it will be worth it!
My stepson is 8 months younger than me (sm)
My ex was my age. He was a flop. Not that that experience kept me from dating men my own age. It didn't, and I wasn't seeking out an older man, either.

I became friends with my current husband at work. We were both side-by-side charge nurses. We had a lot of fun together and the residents loved when we worked together. I had the extreme pleasure of seeing what a caring, considerate, and gentle person he is to people he cared for at his job. He is unbelievable.

He knew I had a daughter from my ex. I knew he had 2 grown sons, one of them a few months younger than me. It was weird at first kissing on a guy with more wrinkles than I was used to. However, the fact that I was a nurse and had a child with an ex already meant to him that I had experienced some life already. I guess that made me fair game. :) The age thing does not affect us at all, especially now. At first it took getting used to, but now it is nothing. The only thing I fear is not having someone to grow old with, but nobody knows what will happen with their life day to day.

We subsequently had 2 more little girls together. We have 3 girls to raise now. I have since become a step-grandma to a wonderful little boy. We just celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary. I couldn't be happier. He never thought he'd have more children, but he thinks it is absolutely incredible to do again. He says he appreciates his kids more now that he's older. Not that he doesn't appreciate his older kids, it's just different.

I went to his 30-year class reunion. He was congratulated because of his young wife. LOL

I wouldn't date anyone much younger than me. I'd really be robbing the cradle. I prefer robbing the grave with the ol' hubby now. ;) Besides, it's a lot easier when they're older and broken in than when they have to be trained to do things.

Our relationship, though, is not like the stuff portrayed on TV shows. Our relationship is normal, happy, and positive. No big deal.
I just think this younger generation just needs to be taught! sm
I am a woman in my 30s. Got married almost 10 years ago. I lived up north for a long time and married a man from the "true" south. Okay. Here I go - and I may get flamed for this, but here I go...When I lived in NY, I NEVER saw a thank-you note or even saw anyone in my family write one. Never. So, I was never "taught" that you write thank-you notes due to my upbringing.

I think it is a cultural thing. Maybe it's even a socioeconmic thing. Yes, we were very poor growing up in NY. Both my parents made around 26,000 combined with 3 children.

Fast-forward. I move down here, meet this amazing guy with a large family - most have money - lots of it - we have a huge wedding - I receive more gifts than I could even count - met people at my wedding I've never seen before in my life - the southern generosity has been overwhelming, and still is. We go on our long honeymoon and when I get home, my MIL calls and says to me, "Mrs. so and so (from the wedding shower), still hasn't received your thank-you note. Maybe you just forgot to send hers out. In any case, just thought I'd let you know! EMBARASSING! So, I pulled out my thank-you cards that came with my wedding invites and began writing thank you notes. That is where the LOVE of writing thank-you notes and just-writing-to-say-hello notes began. I LOVE doing it now. Love it. My family up north and around the country are amazed.

Here again, I was TAUGHT by my new mother-in-law, so to speak, and she did it in a very tactful manner.

Writing notes is just an amazing ministry and I love to do it. I get them printed off and personalized now with either my initial or my full name. You can get them on ebay, they will print 20 of them for you with corresponding envelopes for around 10 bucks.

Anyways, this was my experience.
My hubby gets that, too. He was younger than yours the first time.
He passed out one night at 2:00 a.m. after getting up to go to the bathroom. Scared the cr@p out of me when I heard a big crash as his head hit the countertop and then the floor. I couldn't get the bathroom door open because he had crumpled against it. I finally got the door open but he was disoriented and even his lips had gone pale. I called the ambulance and we went to the ER in the middle of the night. His blood pressure and head CT were fine. They even tested him for drugs and alcohol because they didn't believe us that we don't do those things.All of his tests came back fine, so the doc diagnosed micturition syncope. The doctor told him to sit down when he urinates at night, and also to get more rest and stay hydrated. Yeah, those were some expensive medical bills for just fainting while he went potty.

Funny, one of my kids brought that up the other day. They vaguely remember being scared at having the fire truck and ambulance at the house, and then Dad being taken to the hospital. They just didn't know why.
Isn't that cute! Looks much younger than her age! Well maintained......sm
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Anyone go through a divorce w/younger kids? sm

I've been married almost 12 years and have an 11 y/o and 7 y/o. My husband and I have been fighting almost constantly for the past several months, mostly about him drinking. He had a problem with pot and other substances for about 5 years and finally went back to work a little over a year ago. Ever since then, he has been drinking at least 1/3 of a large bottle of vodka every night but doesn't consider himself an alcoholic because he still goes to work every day. Any time we fight, he threatens to end the marriage because "it just isn't going to work out anyway," while I have always felt you don't throw around the word divorce unless you mean it. Well, I mean it now. I gave him an ultimatum - straighten himself out or I leave with the kids. I am not going to go through 5 years of this again. It is affecting the kids, and my son is acting out to the point of saying he wishes he had never been born. I am giving my husband until after Christmas to decide what he is going to do, and if he does not value our marriage more than his alcohol, I am moving out of state. This is not to keep him away from the kids but because my parents (divorced also) are in a different state than I am and I have no family at all here.


Has anyone had to make a decision like this? I don't want to do this, but I feel I have no other options. He refuses to go to counseling or to see a doctor about what I am positive is depression. Any tips or suggestions? Sorry to dump on everyone like this, thanks for reading.


To me she looks like she was stunning in her younger days. sm
Her bone structure, her hair, her eyes. You can see remnants of what used to be.
Kinda sad.
Where did you find a younger picture? nm
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