Please understand, being that you are younger than how long I have smoked, docs
Posted By: elle on 2008-12-04
In Reply to: i didnt mean to come off harsh - Emily Ayn
used to ENCOURAGE it - I am sure others can remember. Doc sitting with a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket and suggesting it for best stress reliever. Do I blame them? No, not at all. I truly feel that cancer is such a huge money machine that medicine would be hurting poorly if a cure was actually found (or disclosed). And, as you have not smoked before, you are entirely correct in that you cannot understand.
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I think old docs may still have them but I haven't seen younger docs with
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I'd say it depends how long you have smoked - sm
and how old you are. A friend of mine quit and went about 8 months or so, is now back to a 3-4 cigs a day due to stress, brother died (accidental drug/alcohol OD--plus he had diabetes and hepatitis), then mom got lung cancer (was still smoking at 78, 50+ years smoker, 2 heart attacks), I don't know if she quit but she had stage IV so they knew she did not have long (3 months or so). My friend is still doing the 3-4 cigs a day though she felt so much better NOT smoking. Yes she gained some weight, but she had a 3 floor walk-up apartment so that helped her some. I am hoping she will quit for good here soon. Her stress level has dropped as she moved back in with her dad (though he is not the easiest person to live with)...he wants her to have the house when he dies which is probably soon....he was terribly affected by his son and wife's deaths. Smoking sucks, plain and simple. I am a nonsmoker. I hate the smell, cannot understand how anyone can deal with stinking all the time, having a smelly home, smelly clothes, car, etc. We just stayed in a hotel last weekend, a nonsmoking room....I smelled the cig smoke the second I walked in the door, wanted another room but it was fully booked. It was not too bad but still annoyed me that I had a room, that had a balcony, where someone smoked where they were not supposed to. Sorry, ranting. ---Unless you are over 55 or so and have smoked for 30+ years I would not worry about lung cancer. My DH quit before I met him, had smoked for 12 or so years, pack a day. He is in great shape, lung cancer in his family too. He has been smoke-free for 20 years now. His lungs get sore when around lots of smoke though, and he did have pneumonia really bad right before I met him that I think did some damage (he was seriously ill for 3 weeks) to his lungs as they are very sensitive now as I said. But other than that he is healthy as a horse. Quit. Set aside the money you save and take a nice vacation next summer. You will lose your chronic cough, smell tons better, get your taste buds back, get rid of that stain on your teeth and fingers, and once all the nicotine is gone add a few years BACK onto your life. Good luck!
I hear wrong dosages all day long from nurses who dictate for docs -
Maybe they are just misspeaking, maybe they really do not know? Really alarming!!!
Smoked country ham and smoked turkey with
dressing, hash brown casserole, green beans, broccoli salad, pretzel salad, homemade yeast rolls, chocolate pie, chess pie, etc. etc. Plus all the fudge, candy, and chocolate homemade chex mix sitting all over the place. Probably rice crispie treats and chocolate covered marshmellows for the kids, etc.
I don't understand (long and please no flaming)
Are we not supposed to talk about our pets on the Gab board? If not, I'm sorry if I've offended anyone with my adopted puppy stories and pics, but for me it is a little respite to take my mind off other things and share the joy, sorrow, experiences with each other. I hope the administrator can clarify this since you asked about it, maybe we need a pet board if it's offensive to some?
I sense that maybe you are having a tough go with some things right now, and I'm sorry for that, hope things get better for you. Also, forgive if I've misinterpreted between the lines on this. I know what it's like to take a huge hit and have the rug pulled out from under and start all over again. I've been there with major "personal things" starting about 8 years ago, several biggies in a row, and there are some weeks when I think I won't be able to handle ONE MORE "personal thing" in my life when they seem to come day after day, but have to try and hang tough for others, have some major things going on right now with others in my family, but I hit the keyboard every day and give it my all. It, too, in its way is a diversion for me from some of the tougher realities closer to home and takes my mind off myself when I get into my reports. One reason why I like to come here is to see what's happening on a happier note or commiserate with others who aren't having such a good time. Someone posted somewhere once that they would someday be found dead, keeled over with their head on the keyboard, pedal to the metal, headphones dangling with Dr. XXX repeating over and over "the patient was a 55-year-old female...", something to that effect. Sometimes I feel that way and I found it rather humorous in a sort of funky way, but it could very well happen.
But I don't think I've ever been one to gripe about companies here or anywhere, if not right for me, just move on and try something else. But do find the information pretty valuable from these boards, as I think that if there is a consistent gripe or issue, it probably deserves some notice and second thought. I probably would not have chosen this career if I would have known what all the nitty gritty and future was up front, but I do love it and feel I have a strong work ethic, too, started with patient service back in the 70s as a nurse aide in the time when patient care meant "care" as in if you worked the night shift, the patients assigned to you got personal backrubs from you every evening with lotion and powder, after their enemas if needed , bedding changes, reading of correspondence if they weren't capable, etc. What a retro concept. Then on to another patient service-related career for many years and then MT. I was going to get into some of my "personal things" but it's not really important, there are so many that I'm sure have problems so much worse that I'm they don't talk about that make mine seem minor in comparison.
Anyway, don't mean to ramble, just in a ruminating mood I guess. I used to lurk here all the time, since about 2000 I would guess, and finally decided to post once in awhile in the last 6 monthts or so because I really feel there are some kindred spirits here and do enjoy reading everyone's posts on just about anything. I was too shy to post in the past much, seemed like when I did someone would interject something nasty, but I really just decided it didn't matter, quit taking it personally, everyone has their opinions, and I've always tried to live and let live and "I ain't gettin no younger...trying to come to my senses... come down from my fences and open the gate...desperado." It's hard sometimes for me to look forward and let the past go and quit wishing for things to be the way they were and long gone.
It sounds like it's really tough living in Miami cost-wise. I've been there a long time ago when I was on a seminar for another job and liked visiting but don't think I would like to live there. I have heard the prices are outrageous. I recently moved to a different state in the last year, and prices were a real shocker from where we were, haven't been able to afford a house yet, maybe next year, probably not as bad as Miami but bad enough for me!
I wasn't posting to knock you or anything like that at all. I just didn't realize that in being happy about my new puppy it would make me seem to others like a less responsible person or MT. Come back and let us know how you're doing. Sorry for the long post and hope you didn't take it wrong, just letting you know that I think there are others here, too, who are very serious about their jobs and lives, even though a little "giddy" about new furry friends, but it can be a real picker-upper at times for sure, as you probably know with your new furkid.
Actually, about 12 years ago I did think about vet tech school but wasn't feasible at that time for a number of reasons. If I could cut back on work or retire at sometime, I think I would like to provide fostering for some of the sick dogs that need more personal attention and care so they can get well and be adopted. I know the one dog I adopted years ago was very sick, but he pulled through and he lived to be 11, miss him
I think there are people here who are full of great information, great insights on life and MT, and anything and everything in between. And I thank MT Stars for being here and providing us this board to communicate! Okay, you all can say SHUT UP now... point me in the direction of one of those blogger things that everyone seems to be doing these days, except I have no clue how to do that.
Have a good evening Mt and everyone else, too!
that was a LONG thing to read and not understand what is your question really about
I see the part you are asking are things black and white but you REALLY went on and on about your dad finding a job...do you have a question about what we think of that or simply just about your sister's actions and attitude? or joining the mormon church? Sorry but this is very confusing! I know i tend to drone on sometimes and i understand your frustration, but you are all over the place! have you confronted your sis on her behavior? i mean, if that's the problem that you are asking about?
no, the smoked ones are different,
and i haven't tried them...but i might have to.
My mom smoked for 63 years. She
always had healthy lungs. After she broke her hip the first time, the doctors kept telling me to get her off the cigarettes. She would not quit, but I finally got her to quit 2 years later by telling her I quit, because she also started falling asleep with lit ciggies and burning things.
Three months later, she was in for another broken hip. After the films came back from her chest x-ray, the ER physician pointed out a nodule in her lung...not sure if it was the start of lung cancer and wanted to keep close watch. I hate to say this, but thank heavens she never came home. I would have felt very guilty for making her stop and she might have gotten lung cancer through not smoking.
My husband's mother died from lung and back cancer. She had smoked all her life and quit. A year later, she was gone.
Makes you think and wonder about it.
I smoked for 20 years...sm
and I quit a little over a year ago, 11/15/07. It was hard...so hard, and I still want to smoke at times. I used Commit, and could not have done it without that. I still use Commit sometimes. But I feel SO much better since quitting! It can be done! Think of it this way...are you more afraid of quitting or of dying from smoking? Me, I'm more afraid of dying from smoking. Good luck to you! Just know it is absolutely possible!
my mom and dad smoked and my dad drank sm
it played a big role to me. i never picked up a cigarette in my life and i don't drink. not sure why you took that post so personally.
i like smoked salted almonds
is that the same thing? lol
I used to buy them in bulk
but it's almost like they dont fill me up, even though they do.
i guess it's that they aren't satisfying even though i like them, you know?
:)
Docs
Have you ever been to a doctor's office and the nurse asks you some pertinent information, and you might say "I have had a TAH&BSO" or a D&C, and the nurse will say "What is that?" I just freak, I know I have been doing this for 20+ years, but sometimes I wonder if the nurse is really a nurse- yes I know some can be aids or physician taught, but I think I would just take the info down, reassure the patient and find out what it was when I left the room.
Yes I have tried to tell a doctor who may be filling in for my reg doc what has helped with migraines and severe back problems, and I swear they will give me something totally different because they think I am drug seeking. If they would just really listen or look at what you do on the occupation sheet which they make you fill out, things might go a little smoother in everyone's life.
Both of my parents smoked two packs a day inside.
Dad has COPD and asthma now. DH smokes but only in his garage and less than a half-pack per day. I have asthma now that's aggravated by cigarette smoke. I can't even be around it in an enclosed space. I've never allowed anybody to smoke inside my house because of my kids.
we were born to mothers who smoked and drank
our cribs were covered in lead based paint. .And we turned out okay. . Your MIL would not EVER knowingly do anything to harm your child. . but 9 months old seems a little young - if she were older and could sit up and hold on, and MIL drove real slow, maybe it would be okay. . My dad used to take my daughter rides on the tractor - I worried but never said anything - it didn't happen often. . I think she should have asked you first.
I used to smoke and NEVER smoked inside the house. nm
No message.
marry someone who smoked or couldn't sing sm
He smokes and won't be on American Idol anytime soon but isn't completely awful lol
All I can pinpoint is that my son smokes and maybe a vet/tech smoked??? nm
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ESL docs have got to be the funniest!
I have one who always says "patient lives alone at home by himself." Another one seems beyond being able to use correct medical terminology for bodily functions. All his patients "poop" and "pee." The kids also have "snotty noses."
They say docs won't treat them?
geez, I'm afraid...
You would be surprised what docs can
get away with in a hospital setting. Been there.
I quit (I am still fairly young, so only smoked 8 years), but
I feel so much better. Even if someday I get lung cancer despite having quite, I am thankful to not wake up coughing every morning and to have clothes that don't stink and to be able to tell my kids not to smoke without being a hyprocrite. I can tell them why I quit. Mostly, I just feel better for the time being and that is enough. Plus, I save A LOT of money because cigarettes were darned expensive in Washington state.
don't believe the docs....Jerry Lewis has this
Sorry for your news and I know this doesn't answer your question (yet), but I have to say just because an MD says someone has used up 2 out of 5....doesn't make it sure that's going to happen.....many people live beyond what the doctors say.....
Jerry Lewis has pulmonary fibrosis and was a mess a few years ago (and IS aging) but is doing much better he said in comparison to that time....
As for what I'd want to do? Just be with the ones I love the most and do some traveling........making sure to say the things to the loved ones prior to my demise...in other words, making sure I got it all out and cleared all the air if there might be air to clear.......and so that all questions from everyone would be answered prior to my demise, to leave nobody with unanswered questions about just about anything and everything....
Reminder: MDs are not god(s)......they have been wrong....they told my friend her father had *6 months to live max*, and he lived on another 3+ years....
My docs seem to be playing catch-up. I see it as
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I know, most docs really don't adequately warn you (sm)
I went from having a moderately light, 4 day period, to having a very heavy 7 day period! I also had a lot of the other symptoms associated with post tubal ligation syndrome. I wish I had done more research first! I think it is better for him to have a vasectomy - far, far easier and less recovery time too.
Docs need to warn more about complications sm
Docs sometimes do not explain complications of drug interactions, they are way too rushed. Also, the drugs were prescribed in another country. The label on the Xanax said 2 mg, not strong enough to kill anyone. Lots of side effects from Ambien, although used correctly, it's a wonder drug. First time I was bluntly told I had "cancer" and needed surgery "yesterday" I couldn't sleep and Ambien 5 mg was a lifesaver to me, I went to sleep within minutes and woke up refreshed with no ill effects, it is a wonder drug to me, but many in my community have gotten into trouble with the law from mixing it with alcohol and doing terrible things. It sounds like this person was very distraught and it was an accident, pure and simple. He was a talented person who was going through so much pain. He loved his little girl so much, it must have been heart wrenching for him. I am not going to judge him, I just hope he and his family can be at peace if that is at all possible in this cruel world (for the family) and in the next (for him). God bless them all!
I think if they penalized the docs signing off
fewer people getting it. I worked an oncology office and we had people all the time wanting these forms filled out. Yes, some were legitimate, but the majority were people with anemia, thrombocytopenia or status post their cancers in complete remission. My doc never signed unless the person absolutely was entitled to it. I think if more docs got a backbone and quit signing off on these, you'd see a lot less people getting disability.
It's the normal instinct for Americans to "take what they can get", but what excuse do the docs have for signing off on it?
First off, what kinds of tests have the docs run???....sm
When my son Adam was 14, he came down with severe aches, light sensitivity, sore throat off and on, EXTREME FATIGUE, etc. His doctor suspected mono and did a Monospot to check this out, complete white count with diff, and also EB virus serologies. and Yup, he did have mono, it took a couple of months to get him over the worst. Lots of rest, good eating habits, and multivitamins is all you can do until the virus gets erradicated. And no contact sports or heavy activities, because the spleen gets very enlarged during mono and they worry about rupture with a blow, etc.
If no tests have been done, I would get a good pediatrician ASAP who will do a CBC with diff, white count, sed rate, UA, EBV serologies and Monospot, and get him diagnosed!! The ear thing may or may not be a part of this, could be a concurrent illness on its own, but if he has been this sick this long, "guessing" at the etiology is wasting time, you need to know for sure what exactly is wrong with your son to treat him properly.
Not trying to be an alarmist, but have raised two and my third is 11 right now so have been through the Streps, pneumonias, my third baby was born with vesicoureteral reflux and needed prophylactic antibiotics the first year of life (he outgrew it right after that, thank God, but we spent 8 days of he!! in the hospital as they put the 3-week old through spinal taps and ALL TYPES of tests, two weeks in hospital with my little girl at 5 years with severe double pneumonia, etc!). Hopefully, if it is mono/EBV, he will recover really quickly, but YOU also need to put your mind at rest, too! Take good care of each other, and update us, okay??? God Bless
Most docs stink these days. And they think everyone is a hypochondriac
if they can't figure out what you have. Good luck to you and I hope you feel better and you find a decent doctor (good luck with that too!)
but I do believe fibro can be a catchall diagnosis when docs can't (sm)
figure out what's wrong with you!
Working my butt off, all my docs went nuts -sm
have about 180 minutes of dictation to do.......interuptions galore over the weekend so hard to work! Hope to watch the game though, we will see, definitely watching half-time as I love Tom Petty and have since I was 12! (so 30 years). Cannot wait for that especially since not sure if I will go to see him on his upcoming tour as he is coming to my area on a Sunday and kids want to go too, but they would have school the next day and the show is about 90 minutes away from me. So not sure what I am going to do yet.
I hate when the docs say foul smelling diarrhea
when does diarrhea ever not smell foul??? I also hate when they say creamy white sputum - makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
Older than stated age, pendulous breasts, and docs who...
use elderly for anyone under 70!
Depends if it is long with pregnant pause um no. If it is long and juicy like an op YEP! Short ones
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I had it during my pregnancy a long, long time ago. Husband
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How long is too long to wait for Pap results?
This is a follow up Pap for an abnormal one a few months back. I have waited for the results for over a month and have called the office once. Any advised about being a patient patient - LOL. Its hard when your in this business, I think anyway, not to be more aggressive about stuff like this.
younger men
My husband is 5 years younger, no problem with age here. My kids get a kick out of it and tell dad that Mom's the boss, because she's older!!
Younger Men
Age is only an indication of how long we have been on this earth. It does not determine our level of intellect, experience, class or style. As long as he is an adult and meets your standards and expectations, that is all that matters. I have seen older me that are a mess and younger ones that are a mess. It is a very individual thing. My husband is 8 years younger and we have a wonderful marriage.
when i was younger
had to move from our home because the owner wanted to remodel. we had been there 5 years.
I'm 7 yrs younger.
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Wish I had read this when I was younger!
Everything you said was on the mark. Thanks for a great post!
Although I'm several years younger than you (47) I would
say that you are already working at your marriage. You keep the little spats from becoming big arguments, you have a good relationship with your husband, you trust each other, you enjoy his company and he enjoys yours. All of these things are what I consider working at marriage. Those who don't "work" on these things often end up divorced or miserable. Just thank God that you have a wonderful husband and a good marriage. I wouldn't worry too much about "working" on your marriage. Sounds like you're doing a good job of that already.
Why she might be interested in younger men . . .
It sounds like your mother was devastated when your father died. Wow! Nearly 50 years together! If they had a happy marriage, she probably misses that closeness and wants to experience that again. And, maybe she's looking for younger men, because someone much younger is not likely to die before her. That means, she wouldn't have to experience the pain of being widowed again.
My uncle died just recently. He had been married to his second wife for just two years. His first wife died of cancer five years ago. And his second wife was widowed seven years earlier. When I spoke to his wife after the funeral, she talked about how horrible it was to be widowed twice, and that she didn't want to go through that ever again. But, she also talked about how lucky she was to have experienced two wonderful marriages.
Maybe your mother is looking for the same.... she wants another wonderful love in her life, but she's afraid of being a widow again. That would be reasonable, I think. However, she definitely sounds gullible, and she's looking for love in the wrong place! Has she had any grief counseling? Maybe you can talk to her about what it is she's really looking for. People do things because they are trying to fulfill needs. They repeat behaviors because there's some sort of payoff for what they're doing. She's getting something like a "sugar rush" when she meets these men online. Briefly, her fantasy is fulfilled. But, when the truth is revealed, she's devastated again. I know I'm sounding like a Psych 101 graduate, but that's really what it sounds like to me. She keeps doing this, because she likes that sugar rush. There has to be a way to break that, and to really find a way for her to be comfortable with herself.
I'm so sorry for her pain. She must be so sad after having lost her husband.
yes, she did have talent when much younger.....
She had talent when she was still a good girl........when she still had morals and ethics before choosing her so-many-wrong-paths.
just my opinion.......
Yep - love those younger men *lol*
 And I wouldn't have it any other way.....
I'm with man 4 yrs younger. Nothing wrong with it.
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I love younger men
they seem happier and more spontaneous! I dated one 3 years younger (no big deal), I also dated one 5 years younger. Go for it, if that is why you are asking.
I am 50! You are younger than me. How is that for positive??? nm
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Younger smartmouth
My stepson is only 5 years old and he is so disrespectful about backtalking. But God forbid if I say anything about it because my husband will jump down my throat. He lets that child get away with murder. He never punishes him by time out or anything. I just feel like by the time he gets 11 years old, he will be horrible. So I am pretty sure that this kid's parents just do not do anything about his smart mouth just like my husband does nothing about his kid's smart mouth. I just dont' get it.
In my younger days
I did a lot of drugs.
When my kids were a bit younger
I would always walk up to school at the end of the day and walk them home. One of my daughter's friends would walk with us and nearly every day ask if she could come over to play after school. I would nearly always say, oh, I don't care. She thought that was so cool - her mom always cared and it was always NO! I say, it's their house too, they can have anyone over if we are going to be home. If they aren't embarassed at the mess, I'm not either.
24.... 10 years younger!!! nm
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