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If possible, their parents should be told..

Posted By: mtpa on 2007-04-27
In Reply to: What would you say to these rude teenage boys?? - sm

that their boys are insulting and ridiculing adult women on the street. Having raised 3 sons, they were encouraged to be kids and have fun but they were CERTAINLY taught respect for adults and that it's wrong to insult anybody ''for fun'' (particularly adults). Unbelievable that the poster below called this ''minute''. There is nothing ''minute'' about ridicule and nasty remarks--particularly directed at a perfect stranger just going about her own business!


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Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.


My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents.  Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage.  I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door.  They did the same at our house.  To me is is a minor thing and I did not care,  thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by.   If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called.  Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever.  Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way.   But that is me.  
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.

My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
My parents used to do this...
I can remember begging my mom for the list of names and numbers and she'd never give in.  Drove us 4 kids up the wall!  But thinking back, it was fun!  Merry Christmas y'all!!!
Where are the parents???

I don't put the blame totally on Brittany (most of it I do, but not all of it).  Her parents should be hauled down with her.  Where in the world were they when this all was beginning.  If it was me my mom and dad would be right there beside me saying what in the world is going on and they would get me the counseling I needed (and not allow me to leave when I wanted to).  I don't care if she is a "pop" star or not.  If more of the parents of these "stars" would act like parents you would think their children would behave more rationally.  I look at Brittany and lots of her friends and they really are still children.  I have a brother-in-law who is 48 and acts like he's 16 and needs to be kept in line by his mom.  Maybe the parents are too worried that their famous kids will stop giving them money....who knows.  Maybe not, but it looks like it to me.


parents
I had a daughter in a similar situation. Her school had a tutoring program after schools with actual teachers and that really helped her a lot. She actually was doing okay in the class, but just didn't feel confident. The teachers made her feel more sure of herself and that seemed to make all the difference. I'd talk with the physics teacher or counselor to see if they can work with her before she drops the class.
Parents what would you do?

I'm looking for some advice.  My daughter just started the 9th grade.  She's been in accellerated/Honors classes for a few years and she has always maintained a 98+ average.   This year she's taking Physics, a 12th grade class.  She's only been back to school for less than two weeks and she's so stressed out.  She wants to drop out of the class already.  I told her to give it to the first semester which will be over in ten weeks to see how it goes.  My husband feels that she has to take it eventually so she should say in the class.  She's afraid that this course is going to ruin her grade point average that she's very proud of.  I think she should talk to the teacher and her counselor to see what advice they have.  Her teacher is one that gives the work and says do it without really teaching them how to do anything.  I'm so illiterate when it comes to science I'm no help at all.  My husband took physics years ago and he tried to work with her last night, but I'm not sure how much he remembers himself.  What would you do if your child was in the same predicament?


parents
careful, your face will freeze that way. go to your room and wait. killer was "I never thought I could be so disappointed in you. I thought we raised you better than that".
parents
how could I forget this one? Can't never accomplished anything.
never make fun of what someone does for a living as long as it is an honest job.
parents
My parents helped very little - they were very loving, but very poor. I worked, had no car, ate very simple cheap foods - that is the only way I could have done it. . I could not help my daughter much either - she got scholarships, took out loans and worked - full time one year while attending college full-time. . If parents can help, I think they should. . I think this mom is willing to help, just not change her entire life, which she should not have to.
This all comes down to the parents

I think those women are making a big mistake.  I love my sister and nephew, don't get me wrong.  But he is like that 7 yo and it drives me crazy.  BUT my sister and BIL are to blame, I feel.  He gets a toy every time they're in a store.  He gets a new toy if he's good at the dentist.  My sister feels "guilty" if he likes something and she doesn't run out and get it.  They buy him major video games just because, instead of reserving these things for birthdays or Christmas.  They will go out and buy him a $200 item in the middle of the week and when I ask what the occasion is?  Nothing, we just thought he'd like it!


He is well behaved and they don't use the toys as bribes, but yet still, it's unbelievable some of the stuff they do.  Yes, it's their only child, but I'm amazed.  Growing up when we would talk, my sister had definite opinions about what she would and would not do when she had children, and this is not how she felt back then. 


But he doesn't know anything about Monopoly or playing cards, or any of that stuff.  In my opinion, they're raising him to be materialistic and as an adult I can see him as one of those guys who always has to have the latest toys to impress the other guys.  Just my opinion.


 


You might be right, but my parents had me so...
afraid of them that I would NEVER have considered such a thing. Although I do not have a teenager yet, my hope is to have that kind of fear and, yes, respect by the time they are that age. However, I might live to eat my words yet. I just think that with a teenage girl, this might not really have been about a wedding after all--it could have been about a date to a wedding and I find that scary.
See what I mean? Some parents have no
consideration for anyone but themselves. Yes, parenting is a tough job. Some people do it better than others. But it doesn't give the less-than-adequate parents the right to inflict their out-of-control brats on others.

I love how they all go on the defensive, too, if you call them out on it. Suddenly they accuse the person objecting to their kids of not having kids themselves. (Usually not true).

It all boils down to consideration. And letting your infant scream through 3/4 of a movie, or a wedding ceremony, is pretty much akin to looking the other way while your dog drops a load of steaming poop on a neighbor's front lawn.
I would believe most parents would know
already.
You could do what my parents did to me
I stayed past curfew one too many times. First time they let it slide, second time the warned me and third time said I disobeyed, so they marched into my room, grabbed a suitcase and said if I didn't want to obey their rules than to get out and see if I could live somewhere cheaper and have a car whenever I wanted it. Even though the car was mine (old Valiant (think Chrysler made it, but it was mine), but they told me the car was not an option and would not be going with me.

It took me about 30 minutes of begging and pleading for them to let me to stay and I had to do some extra work around the house as punishment for disobeying them.

The only thing was back then 18 was legal age (drinking, etc). Your daughter is not of legal age yet. I'm not saying this is your or your daughter because I don't know you, but parents seem to always believe their kids are responsible. My sister thinks her 19-year-old son is responsible, but he shows time and time again he is not. I have a friend who boasted about how responsible her 17-year-old son is, he doesn't smoke or drink and studies in school and gets good grades and only goes out to go to the library. A few days later (Sat night) the police had brought him home as he was caught at a party drinking.

Took a lot of time for my parents to consider me responsible after some of the stuff I did (staying out past curfew, etc). Parents should not be so quick to trust their kids. They need to earn trust.
Where are parents?

Are the parents going to be home that allow this?  In Connecticut if there was underage drinking and something went wrong the parents would be in trouble as much as the rest of the kids. Just in one month we lost 5 teenagers in 3 different accidents for drinking and loosing control of their cars and running them up a pole.  A parents worse nightmare.  


I never had a problem with my two daughters with drinking underage at home. When they are at college I do not loose any sleep over it because what I don't see or know I cannot worry about it.  I trust they will make the right decisions but they are away so who knows.


My parents.
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Dh just told me a something
before it got back home.  He took my oldest daughter to an out of town football game.  Me and the baby stayed home as it is really too cold for her to be out.  Well, he told me that this gal (recently divorced and hot to trot) came and sat by him and they were enjoying the game together.  He said people were staring.  All I said was "okay."  Okay, I need to keep my head.  I should just trust Dh but we are having marital problems and the subject of divorce has come up but I thought we were going to put it behind us and work it out.   Help me not blow up and blow it out of proportion.  I can sometimes loose my head. 
That's what they were told - sm
That the repair would be so obvious, it would be like night and day. I don't know, I guess if it were me, I would definitely want to know just exactly how much my premium would be going up before I made a decision. They do have the option of just havig their LR done for 200-300 dollars though, versus having the entire carpeting replaced and paying a higher premium. So, in reality, they will be paying for the carpeting anyway, like a poster above said.
He just told her (sm)
that he was about to compliment her, and that she could ditch the surprised act and just say thank you. He said something like that a couple of times, in other words to not act so surprised she's getting a compliment and like, really? really? me? and just say thank you, and that's what she did.

She really sang great last night, like she does just about every time.
Boy was I just told - NOT - sm

I just got a call from the mother of this girl who comes over now and then telling me that I am a horrible hostest and how dare I make her daughter feel uncomfortable.


OH PUH-LEEEEEEZ! 


I'm laughing, hoping this means we won't see this brat OR her nasty witch of a mother darken our doorstep again.


So this is what happened.   The girl comes over to "hang out".  I was up from my desk moving a load of laundry from washer to dryer and when I walked back into my office, there she is, typing away on MSN messenger talking to friends. 


It is a well known rule in this house by EVERYONE, including the kids that come over, that they do NOT even look in the direction of my computer because it is a company computer and my income depends on it.  There are TWO other computers that are for family use.  STAY OUT!  Clear enough?  Apparently not to this little brat.


I came back into my office and told her she needed to get away from my desk, telling her for the millionth time that it is my work desk only.   I was nice at this point but not happy.


She then tells me "Just a second, I'm talking."   That's when I blew a gasket!


I said, "Get out. Go home. Now."  Very firm but not yelling and screaming like I would have loved to do.   She turns around and makes this face at me, then pushes my chair back really hard as she is getting up and it bounces off my bookshelf, giving it a good rattle.  So as she was walking out the door I simply told her, do not come back. You are not welcome.  


Then her witchy mother called.   I couldn't care less what the hag was yelling about so I just interrupted her and said, "HEY!   She's 15.  She should know better than to act like that in someone's home and if YOU don't teach her that BEFORE she does that somewhere else, this will NOT be the last time she gets the boot!" And hung up on her.


My kids were hiding in the hall giggling as all this took place.  They never had the guts to tell her to get lost.


Before anyone tries putting a guilt trip on me... this kid is FAR from neglected, comes from a nice home, parents are well off, just SPOILED beyond belief and she believes that everyone should jump when she says jump.   I AM NOT PLAYING ALONG! 


I told her she should have said

They wouldn't like you either! 


What nerve, what stupidity on his part, what ignorance.  I am going to address how I feel about cats personally in a separate post and comment on some of the responses I have received. I am very appreciative of the responses and the dialogue back and forth. It is in some way healing, at least to me, and I hope to others.


tell her exactly what you told us
and she needs to be aware of the STDs out there..They think it will never happen to them, but it can...that is why talking with a GYN or nurse practitioner would be a good thing to give her pamphlets and brochures and also keep the lines of communication open between the two of you.
I was always told not to mix

your alcohols (wine coolers, beer, cocktails, etc), but more importantly don't break the seal or you'll be in the ladies' room all night.


Have Fun!!!


Perhaps I should have told the
whole story, but just wanted thoughts based on the information I did provide and the assumption that it did happen. What would you do if it were your child and you were certain that this is what was said?

Thanks to those who have responded. I look forward to seeing what others have to say as well.
Told her that already.
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What I told
I have three - told them the truth.  It worked for my daughters, worked some for my son.  One of the big issues was "parties" and I just said no.  They asked why.  I told them that I knew them and did not think they would find it especially fun to watch their friends and themselves drink and ralph on other people's shoes.  I actually described a few parties I had been to and all the graphic details.  They believed me and decided not to go to parties until they were old enough to leave on their own power whenever they wanted.  I just told all of them the graphic truth (my mother did not tell me and let me learn everything on my own - that was not such a good idea either in my opinion and she could have saved me a lot of grief if she had only spoken up.  My son did drink when he was 18, but only at someone's home and says he did not drive.  I believe him because he is now 37 and has no reason not to tell me the truth anymore.  So, tell what you feel comfortable with.  I think parents can have a big impact on their children when they are honest. 
Have you told them what you told us?

I'd lay it right out to them like you just did here.  Maybe they truly have no clue as to how it makes you feel.


He just told you
that he's looking for other options. He was being honest with you - he looked and hasn't found anything YET. Get a lawyer, get out of the marriage, and get on with your life.
My ex-MIL told the ex that she would
x
When my MIL first told me.....
I told her that my SIL was lying.  MIL said she thought so too until the doctor said she was pregnant.  Still....no ultrasound or anything performed.  Still holding out for this to be a false positive. 
I have been told that once a dog sm
tastes blood the urge will never stop. I have no idea if this is true, but it seems to make sense in some cases.
I was told that
in the morning is the best time because the pregnancy hormone is most concentrated during that time.


Told ya so! About getting a cat, I mean
I remember when you posted about your mouse problem a few weeks ago.  Good for you.  I have a cat who is a mousing champion!  He would rather catch mice than eat or sleep.  I know it's gross, but I don't have any mice.
My DH has never hit me, told him before- sm
we married that if he ever did I would divorce him in two seconds flat (that and cheat on me). I will never put up with any man physically abusing me.
Ok, did what the vet told me to do
this morning, well tried to do it lets say. I was supposed to feed my big kitty separate from the other 2 so all 3 each had their own bowl, water and I took my big boy in my work room, set him and the food down and you would think I was punishing him! He went and crouched under a chair. I just gave up on that idea but what I did do was put all their food down, allowed them x amount of minutes and then took everything up, dried and wet food. Instead of several times a day treats now will only get 2 each at night (very small bits of treats) so hopefully can make it thru the day- might be like trying to get an addict to come off their drugs. Wish me luck.
This is what I was told
by H&R block. I owe big last year because even though I payed estimated I did not pay enough (like I only paid half of what I should have paid, so I owe a lot from last year), plus now my taxes have doubled this year, so what she told me to do is pay the quarterly on time and each month send whatever I can in to the IRS, but make sure I do it every month on a consistent basis so they see you are making good with trying to pay it off. I'll have to explain to them that there is only one income, my taxes doubled this year and I will be paying every month until last years bill is paid off. She said if you call them and set up a payment plan they charge you a $25 fee for setting it up, plus interest for not paying it on time. She said this way you'll still be charged the interest, just not the set up fee. I have worked with the IRS in the past and they really aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. They have always worked with me in the past and I never got any hassles. But you know...this just sucks big time. I was barely making it last year. Now this year I work 2 weeks every month just to pay taxes. That only gives me 2 weeks a month to pay the rest of my bills. Which means I will be working 7 days a week as many hours as I can fit in a day for the remainder of my life. Will this madness ever end?
What my vet told me
I know some of this is no good since she's already got parvo, but my vet told me this about parvo prevention:

Spray the yard with bleach water wherever the puppy will be going out until they have completed there shots.

NEVER let your dog walk into the vet clinic before they are done with there shots. I had to carry my boxer pup in yesterday and he's 20 pounds now at 12 weeks!

Things could change very rapidly. My mom had a puppy that was fine when she went to bed and dead when she got up in the morning from parvo. It takes over quick.

My mom and I have brought a whole litter back minus one from parvo before, but it required around the clock attention and we both work with horses and have both worked in a vets office where we knew how to give IVs, etc. It was a very long week for us, but after about five days they were back to eating on their own and drinking well and playing.

I wish you luck. I've become very attached to my puppy and if something happened to him I'd be devastated. We are both praying for your puppies good health!
She might have told him (sm)
People often know when they're are going to die. She might have told him it was going to happen and when.

It sounds like he might have been there when she died though, too. It's hard to say. That poor husband...
someone told me....
that I should get checked for vitamin D deficiency. I just started working midnights from home at my new MT job first of March, and the weather here has been stormy a lot, my step-mom I believe thinks I'm starting to have vitamin D deficiency because I've been complaining of body aches here the last few weeks to a month and am constantly tired and I've been feeling depressed in a way. I thought the tiredness was just from lack of sleep trying to get adjusted to this new schedule...I hope its not deficiency, but I wondered how long it takes for symptoms to show up since its only been a few months, I don't think that's it...
Any foster parents out there?
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You're asking what I and other parents were asking...sm
when the other teacher was out so long. Our school system is probably the worst about holding back kids. I'm a foster parent and had a prior foster child that desperately needed to be held back (she was academically 2 years behind her peers and emotionally 2 years behind them) and they refused to hold her back because she had already been held back in the 1st grade due to poor attendance while she was with her birth parents, regardless of the fact that she was emotionally and educationally behind the kids her age.


They were all good parents as far as I know - sm
There were no reports in the news stating any reason why this group from Kansas thought they were bad parents. They were just parents with broken hearts. I agree with you that they need to be kept away from funerals.
Any parents here making a
to only have one child..? We're seriously considering not having any more..One is PLENTY OF WORK AND LOVE!!

Yea, they might but the parents not as enthused
as when their children were little and I do not think it has that much to do with independence, I think the baby and toddler thing just hyped too much. I for one really disappointed in my children and nothing to do with if they are on their own or not.
Parents, what are you thinking about?
I have read today more about the little girl who was kidnapped in Portugal. I have no idea what her parents were thinking about norr for that reason, what a lot of parents are thinking about now. You cannot leave your children to go dine, even for 5 minutes, no matter how closeby you think you are. You cannot let your children run around in the stores unattended while you shop or leave them in the toy section to keep them occupied. You cannot leave them in the bathtub while you go to answer the phone or the door. It only takes a second for a child to drown. Don’t leave them in the vehicle while you run in the store or pump your gas leaving your vehicle running or the keys inside. There are all kinds of stories about the children kidnapped here just for those reasons. I do not care what section of the country you live in, don’t leave your doors open, be it daytime or night. You think you are safe. It only takes a few minutes for someone to swoop down and grab a child. The parents of this child in Portugal are 100% to blame for their child being kidnapped. They could have taken their children with them that evening or the resort where they were staying offered babysitting and yet the family opted not to have this. I hope for the best in her recovery. It was supposed to have been a family vacation so take the kids with you, be it a late evening dinner or the like. What a shame!
NO WAY. It is not your place to tell them, let their parents tell them when they
think the time is right!!!!!