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Is alcoholism a disability

Posted By: ? on 2007-03-08
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I know someone who is filing for state and social security disability because he's an alcoholic. Can he do that?


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I guess he can, but I don't think it's right. Alcoholism

may end up as a disease but one makes the choice to take the first drink. I may get flamed for this but that's okay. Instead of applying for disability, why not take steps toward recovery? I personally know the devastation wreaked by alcoholism. I am married to a recovering alcoholic (sober for 6 months now). He almost killed himself drinking. He lost lots of weight (122 pounds at 6 feet tall), puked like a pregnant woman, and just about ruined his liver, but he decided he had to quit and did. I think it is sad that our tax money is being spent helping people stay on disability when they could possibly be rehabilitated and become active in their own care.


do you know how alcoholism works?
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If you are on SS disability you will sm
get $250 payment, its either May or June. I cannot remember. I just read it. To my knowledge there no money for ICs, that would be an awful big group of people. There is also a $250 payment for folks drawing VA disabity benefits also that comes either in May or June. If you have direct deposit it will just show up in your account. If not it will be mailed to you. however you get your check is how you will get the stimulus payment.
who defends the theory that alcoholism
can be inherited from relatives and renders an alcoholic innocent and helpless? I mean that it is already in 'one's genes', a predisposition. I disagree with that.

But I believe that living in a certain environment can turn out many alcoholics, but it is in the end a self-inflicted misery.
Aside from a learning disability, if they don't
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My mother was on disability
and she really needed to be. She recieved $516.00 a month from disability and $16.00 of food stamps a month. Don't see how she was abusing the system.

I used to work in a grocery store and saw lots of abuse but also saw people that desperatly needed the help.

This was 20 years ago. If you pay with food stamps you got food stamps back except for coins. A couple of people would come in and buy a 5cent piece of candy so they would actucally get change back. They would do this several times until they had enough to buy cigarettes. Now (at least here) food stamps are on a card so you just use the card until it runs out and then is refilled the first of each month so no change.
Alcoholism doesn't always "look" like the norm
The best thing that he has done so far is admit that he is an alcoholic.  Is he willing to get help for it?  From what you have written so far he doesn't seem to be a "bad" drunk but alcoholism presents itself in many ways.  What happens if he doesn't drink?  Does he go through withdrawals of any sort?  My father is an alcoholic and I believe my husand is on his way there. There are definitely personality changes between drinking and nondrinking.  They have both, moreso my father, hidden their drinking.  Saying it is soda but then when you smell it or ask for a sip it definitely isn't.  My dad used to have a trunk full of alcohol, mostly vodka since you really can't smell it, although I definitely can. Do they really think we don't know what they are doing when they go to the cars numerous times a day?  I guess ignorance is part of the disease.  I don't know.  I wish you all the luck and hopefully your husband will get the help he needs to abstain from the alcohol.  You might be looking forward to some tough roads ahead but the point is to get your husband and family healthy. Let us know how it goes.  
Domestic Violence/Alcoholism Question
First, let me state this pity is neither desired or deserved. This is a situation that I allowed to perpetuate so I deserve no sympathy. Also, I apologize for it being so long; I never learned the long-story-short lesson.

I was involved/lived with with an alcoholic who turned verbally abusive after a 12-pack, physically abusive after 18. For reasons that even I don't know (although I'm sure Freud could figure it out), I stayed with him for over a year. However, about 3 months ago, we had gone on vacation, his drinking and violence escalated and, after he kicked in a door at the condo we were staying in, I called 9-1-1, fearing that few slaps I had taken so far were going to progress to where he choked me again. In the past when the violence got really bad (about once every 4-6 weeks), I could just get in my car and drive the hour back to my house. This time, the whole thing was at 2:00 in the morning and my home was a 10-hour drive away; he was footing the bill, so I didn't even have the money for gas.

The original trial was supposed to be the end of April. He remained sober from the time of 'the incident', and we stayed together, until he jumped off the wagon 2 days before the trial, at which point I returned home. I was not going to testify, at which point the charges I guess would have been dropped (per the prosecutor; my ex had declined a plea deal that would have meant no jail time). I reasoned that maybe he had finally hit bottom and realized alcohol was ruining his life, but obviously not. The prosecutor ended up calling me the day before the trial to ask if I planned to be in attendance. I literally did not have gas money to get down there (abusive alcoholics take a toll on one's paycheck/bank account), and told him that, and the trial has subsequently been postponed and is coming up in about 2 weeks.

My question is...is it worth actually showing up and testifying? The ex is obviously a drunk, destroying the life of the adolescent son who adores him (how normal is it for the son to have to carry daddy up the steps to bed?). I can rationalize that it's good for the son to get away from daddy and his drunken pot-smoking buddies for a while or that maybe the ex will get rehabilitated. But in truth, the biggest thing for me would be vengeance for being used and abused. Would you go ahead and testify or just cut your losses and move on? As a side note, I'm not the first woman he's hit (although the others were drunk stoners and cop-haters); also, it's not that I would be destroying a man's perfect record- he has a felony DUI conviction after 3 misdemeanor ones and numerous in other states that never caught up with him(I found that out after going out with him 2 months...Bill Engvall echoes in my head- here's your sign).

Thoughts? Do I go for the vengeance or vacate?
Sick of disability/insurance fraud?

   I am.  I'm tired of playing by the rules and paying through the nose.  I'll happily wear a red shirt with whistleblower painted all over it.    I am minding my business, my tax money and my future.


I think names of individuals receiving federal/state/VA disability funds should be made public.   I'm sure psych advocates will have a cow, but actually psych is one of the most abused disability diagnoses.  I'd be willing to say forego psych patients and just list those with physical disability receiving money.  Oh yes, I know it's subjective. Just like I know the guy receiving all kinds of money while taking morphine for "back pain" and riding his motorcyle.


   Common sense would not hurt - how about anyone receiving disability income specifically for a back injury should not be issued a motorcycle license/insurance.  I'd appreciate hearing any measures you think would work.


    Please save the indignation over loss of privacy - I'm talking about federal and state money that comes out of the taxpayer's pockets.  I'll bet everyone on this forum can name someone they know is getting money they don't deserve.  If you don't agree, you must not be in that age group that will retire with zero SS funds left or perhaps won't be one of the population who needs and deserves disability income and will never see it.  I hope it does not happen to you.


She received a 160K disability payment sm
Something about a back injury that didn't allow her to work (but did allow her to carry 8 babies? Strong back....?) and she also gets some money for a couple of the first 6 kids who are disabled in one way or another (not sure of the details).
I agree my hubby's friend is getting disability for his back
lifts equipment, helps transport it, etc. He also doesn't pay child support. what a waste of space.