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Ok, here's the link - unbelievable that people would follow this man!!!

Posted By: OP - here it is on 2008-04-18
In Reply to: Warren Jeffs' nephew speaking out - see yahoonews - I'm so angry!!!!!!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7455894

you will have to cut and paste - sorry - I don't know how to link it



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It may not but people who follow it will
We are not intimidated by the Bible. We are just sick of the people who think they are more rightous than others becase they wear their religion on their sleeves while they cram down our throats that they are better than us. If it gives a man comfort, then he will receive the same comfort if that bible is in his posession but not for all the world to see. How can you be sick of Christians always being in the wrong when they are given more rights than people of other faiths. If you want to talk about people being wronged out of their religion being able to be openly observed you should consider what the Wiccans have to go through. And for pitty's sake I'm sick of hearing how we are taking "Him" out of everything. Your not the first to say it, I've heard it before and its absolutely untrue.
LinK, see my post below. People do go to yard sales

for the reasons you stated, but it was very underhanded that the woman would snatch up the doll for $2.00 knowing she was buying it from a little girl when the mother wasn't looking.  It was just plain wrong.


Unbelievable!
My sister denied she pulled my hair and pushed me and has hired a lawyer.  She really is sicker than I thought.  Unbelievable!
that is unbelievable
that really is.  she should have explained the difference between types of massages.  i would guess that she never called to followup because she was expecting a call from your lawyer!!  OMG.  I sure hope you let the masseuse's superior know what happened.  that really is unprofessional and, IMO, shows a total lack of knowledge on their part.  i would have demanded  a refund at the VERY least.
Unbelievable sm

$87 was all they planned to give us.  Her medical bills totalled $800, $87 was our portion.  The other portion we figured for pain and suffering.  We always wanted to get pain and suffering for our daughter.  This was no surprise to the owner.


Read the thread.  I don't have time to repost what happened.  My daughter was standing on the sidewalk in front of the owner's house when the dog attacked her. 


Again, if you will read the thread you'll see that this owner has showed no responsibility for this attack (except giving us an insulting check for $87).  Her dog has been loose on more than one occasion since the attack without a leash.


The police were called, and there is a police report, along with ER and doctor notes. 


It is unbelievable how uncaring people are here on this board.  Even though my daughter didn't provoke this dog in any way, even if she did, gives no justifiable reason for this dog to bite her in such a vicious manner.  This is an 8-year-old child.


The owners should be penalized because they are allowing their dog to be loose without a leash on a street filled with young children.  I don't have any sympathy for them.


It amazes me how people on this board show much more compassion for the dog that attacked my daughter than for my daughter.  No one seems to care that this dog has been loose since the attack or that there were no penalties for this owner.  The dog has never been impounded.  A friend of mine lives next door to a dog that bit someone, and that dog was never impounded either. 


I think I'm through with this board.  I have been coming here for years, but for people to be so cruel here to my daughter especially is just unimaginable to me. 


I will do whatever I have to do to make my daughter feel safe in her own neighborhood.  I have consulted with an attorney and will probably proceed in small claims court unless this owner wants to try to settle this with us.


I pray that nothing like this ever happens to any of your children or family members.  It's a terrible thing to experience for the entire family.  It's even worse when people are more sympathetic toward the dog and owner than for the victim, my daughter. 


I'm done here.


unbelievable
The medical team that helped her get pregnant should see the same psychiatrist as she does. Can you imagine! Why would an MD HELP this woman have more children??!! Did he give a SINGLE thought as to what would happen to all these babies he helped her create??
Unbelievable that you let it get this bad
what a moron
Truly unbelievable! Keep us posted.
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Some of these posts unbelievable!
I will say I do believe a 14-year-old is too old for a whipping but having said that, the issue about her writing a report is really silly! I posted below when my son was made to write, I think, 200 times a sentence I shall not (whatever) and when he finisehd, wanted to know could he do that again! Some children actually love to do that- you have to find what they dislike most and that is their punishment. If they love to go to the mall, take it away, if they love their cell, take it away, television, away, movies, away. Frankly I would do an overall taking away everything, leaving them in a blank room for days! Not even writing material, books, etc. This crap about her having trust issues- I was whipped a lot as a child and I am in a wonderful, marvelous marriage. That is pure bunk!!
Unbelievable. You sound like a grinch to me. Who said anything about not
being grateful? Of course we are grateful! You have NO idea what my husband goes through and how he is up before the sun rises and then doesn't come home until the sun goes down and works his tail OFF for this amazing company. They are REWARDING him for his dedication and hard work and the fact that he hasn't called in sick in 3 years so he also gets a bonus for that too.

My gripe was that why is it the govt's business to tax that at 39%?

You go through what my family goes through each and every year and you'll see things my way.

Some people just shouldn't even speak sometimes.
It is sad...and unbelievable they both died today.
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Agree! Unbelievable! I'll have much more to say after midnight ; )
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No, I do not hate her. It's just unbelievable as what the media tries to portray her.
Second Princess Diana?
Elegant?
Unique style (this yes, but positively?)

Does the media think that we do not have eyes to see?

I bet that M is also irritated by all this.

But $ 540.-- for a pair of ugly sneakers?

What are these people thinking, especially in these times.

And she wears them at a charity event?
link inside - try this link to narrow one down in your area
http://www.bcnys.org/inside/chambers.htm
oops - bad link - here's the correct link ....S/M
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/
Follow up to the above
Parvo causes the mucus, blood and also weight loss that you are describing. Once I found out what was in my yard, it seemed like it never went away. Years later I had forgotten and hubs brought home another puppy and put in the backyard. The same thing happened. If not treated in a yard, seems like it just stays on. Older dogs seem not to have problem because I guess their immunity built up. I hope you get to a veterinarian as soon as possible because it does kill if not treated.
I can't follow this for the

Follow up
I guess my first question would be, who made the decision to have the sleepover? Obviously you allowed your son to have the boy over -- did you talk to the mother about the arrangements? What if something had happened, i.e., a medical condition and you needed to contact the parents? Sounds to me like you were "duped into being a free babysitter for that kid" (and not sure if they had others who might have been farmed out) but the parents were totally irresponsible, but you have to take part of the blame as well for not checking into things more thorougly -- I think that if the parents had not answered a home line or a cell line and NOT called back within a hour or 2 I would have been on the phone to the authorities -- when are parents going to learn that these are innocent, sweet, children and something like this can leave emotional scars for a very long time
You have to follow your instincts and
A therapist ideally really should be able to adjust their style to the needs of the client. In the end, what matters is are you making progress? ... is she helping you address the issues you came to her with in a way that is meaningful to you? ... and is she challenging you emotionally? It reminds me of the movie, Girl Interrupted, where Angelina Jolie's character is lamenting that nobody cared enough to push her buttons. It's one thing to be a friend who is supportive and accepting of one as they already are. It's another to not care enough to "push the right buttons" to help someone challenge their shortcomings.

It sounds like you have examined this relationship and find it lacking. There is no shame in telling someone, even a therapist, that you are not getting out the relationship as much as you are putting into it (in this instance, a lot of money). At least you can say learning to trust your instincts is one thing you did get out of the relationship.
Follow up on this cat stuff
I just got back from the store and bought some hairball control dry cat food. The older cat I spoke about drinks water so no problem there. I got the dry as well as several cans of wet hairball control so probably will mix a little of the wet with dry to start out with. I also bought glove to run over the cat and get rid of some of the excessive fur. This is not a common shedding as she has had for sometime, surprised she has any left. I have hairball gel that I could give them in addition to this. Thanks for the insight!
Follow your instincts
I had this happen years ago with my brother. I tried to make him realize I didn't do what he thought, but he wouldn't budge. I chalk it up as a lesson learned in life, you can't make another person think or believe anything they don't want to. If I dwell on it, it still burns me up, so I try to leave it behind. Anyway, trust your instincts, they will never let you down.
mammogram-follow up
I was diagnosed and beat breast cancer after a very caring radiologist kept taking additional views.  I go back next month for my first mammogram, kind of scared, but I'm stronger now, so off I will go.  That was an excellent post.  I wish more people would get checked and be faithful with following.  Have a wonderful day.
I definitely did not follow the crowd - sm
I was basically a "good" girl though, though had a secret side only my friends knew about. Had my own sense of style totally different than everyone else, I looked pretty good then, (early 80s, graduated in 1983), lots of purple and feathers. Was mainly an A student, Art teacher's pet, principal's pet, in marching band (baton twirler), starting at 15 drank beer when I could (rarely), at 16 smoked pot a couple times a month, more when I was senior but not much more, never bought it myself - had 3 BFs, we all drank/smoked pot, though one did it much more than the rest of us, she was a straight A student too. Was never an "addict" and never tried anything stronger than pot, saw the damage the harder drugs did on others and had no desire to screw myself up or fry my brain, did NOT have sex in HS though 2 of my friends did starting at 15- both were drunk their first time, had enough drama with them to not want to do that until I was ready and sure I'd use birth control. I had a good time, parent's never knew of the things I had been up to, was very good at keeping it all under wraps.
Very smart. We should all follow, but for some reason, it's almost sm
entertainment for some. Isn't that sad?? We find "entertainment" in someone else's grief and sorrow. What else do you call it? I hardly ever watch t.v. In fact, I didn't find out about the shootings until 3:30 when I read that 30+ people were dead! I was shocked!

The media wouldn't give it to us if we didn't show intense interest in it. It seems the more drama it is, the higher the ratings. So, so sad.

Like I said, I read about the accounts on-line at People.com where they never have any news on there - just celebrity gossip. I know, it's not much better, but it's hardly ever death, shootings, earthquakes, terrorism, kidnapping, and the like. I can't handle that kind of stuff.
Thank you for all the responses. I will follow your advice. nm
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Follow up on cat gorging and throwing up

Posted a few days ago, had Ms. Thang to the veterinarian's office today and he thought possibly hyperthyroidism because of extremely fast heartbeat, hair loss, the 3 pounds weight loss since the end of last year- labs done and sure nuff, hyperthyroidism. Vicious cycle of the gorging, throwing up, seemingly never getting enough to eat- hopefully now with medication can get this under control. 


Go to their web site and follow their procedure - sm
they have it all there how to report problems, etc.
Follow the part that has the brains. : ) nm
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That's horrible. OP--Don't follow this poster's example.
A letter like this is probably the most inappropriate way to have dealt with the situation other than beating the kids up yourself. I'm going to assume this letter was also sent anonymously. Awful, awful, awful.
This thread is a little confusing to follow so I will just

throw my experience out there and see if it works.  I was in my 30s when I started having problems with dryness.  My husband thought it was because I didn't want him, and I kind of felt weird about it, but it really was just physical - I am not sure what caused it.  Finally, he expressed to me that the sex was not as good anymore - I agreed - so I tried using artificial lubricants.  The sex was so much better and there was not so much unspoken baggage about the whole thing. 


We have been married for 20 years, gone through an almost divorce, and raised 2 kids, so I am not sure why that was such a hard issue to talk about.  Like others said, sometimes the sex is hot and you want bunches, sometimes its the furthest thing from your mind, but ultimately just talking about the problem worked for us.


Follow up on money transferring
Went into the bank this morning, talked with someone yesterday and the only way to set it up on line is thru transfer instead of bill pay. I also use bill pay but this would be between 2 bank centers. Noticed below where someone said wire transfers cost $$ but with transferring this way it is $3.00 per transfer.
Again, I follow what the Bible says, that homosexuality is sinful &
support homosexuality by selling items of that nature is not where I will be shopping.  You can try to twist this around every way possible, but I am not judging anyone. God will do that.  No, I do not associate with gay people, but that does not mean that I would not be pleasant to someone who is.  I don't agree with the gay lifestyle, I don't shop at stores that sell homosexual items, and you can make me out to be the bad guy all you want.  I believe in what I believe.
I'm probably older than you and I DO follow rules of etiquette,
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Great post, I am going to follow your advice
It says everything that should be said. I in no way feel just because family should accept, in that were the case every family member could just stop in and that would be feeding an army. I dislike the bad manners to start with; never should you say you are coming to a dinner not having been invited in the first place. To be truthful, feel like uninviting the others he volunteered to drive here- if not for them he would have never known about the dinner in the first place. They told him at a Thanksgiving dinner they had (we were invited, working though, did not attend) and I really resent their saying anything about in in front of other family members who I did not invite this year. We usually have a group of 10 only here at my home, the same each and every year. Others are out of town. Thanks for the wonderful suggestions! I shall follow through.
less is best....fewer words. If you need to say Hi, do not follow it with how are you, if she asks
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If enough boys show up, the girls will follow...sm

but if he is still worried about her screwing it up for him, maybe there is a game or some other event he and some friends can be taken to?  This was discussed here a long time ago, but when I was a kid, my dad took some of my friends and me to a Phillies game for my B-day.  It still makes me smile after all these years. 


Follow the burned kitten's health updates

of those two evil teenage girls at:


http://www.forgottenfelines.com/v4/adam.shtml


You can also find news and archived articles at the "Press Democrat"  newspaper website.   Looks like the kitty may recover, but his bills could reach $30,000 before he's well again. 


Sorry you couldn't follow me. I have work to finish up. Have a nice day. nm
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It's not the worker's fault. She has to follow the rules or be fired. sm
I've taken a lot of flack from a lot of customers, and the run-of-the-mill retail worker really has no freedom to make decisions. When the worker is caught between a yelling customer and a yelling manager, who do you think she'll listen to?
Yes, but keep in mind ks that Christian's follow EVERY word of the Holy Bible
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you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people

This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE!   I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.


it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.

I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case.  Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior.  Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!!  Thank you for the kind comments.  To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge.  You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.


I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
People who go around calling other people "low class"
have their own issues in life. Ignore them. Nothing like a misplaced superiority complex to make a person feel good about themselves. Like they've never done anything gauche or made a faux pas. It must be nice for them to be so perfect and live in a glass house.

For that matter, you probably saved your piggy's life by popping that mondo zit! It could have gotten infected or something.... (yes, I have a zit popping fixation myself, but you were really descriptive on that pig zit. gag LOL)

Man, you would have appreciated the time one of my relative's popped a HUGE cyst on her face. I was standing right next to her at the time and leaned back because I knew it was going to blow. It did! Big time! All over the wall, mirror and light fixture. I'm still disgusted by the thought of it 10 years later. LOL In a revering kind of way...
some people did, some people didn't. It's their choice.
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Try this link...
http://www.preparedpantry.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=753
link
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Oscars2007/story?id=2904220

a link to the story. Sounds like a great girl. More power to her.
try this link sm

www.thehairstyler.com


i've been letting my hair grow out for almost a year and a half.  i've always worn my hair very very short, easy to take care of.  but with the help of my hubby giving me encouragement, i have hair that just touches my shoulders now.  i have naturally wavy/curly hair, thick.  i have layers in mine and after i get out of the shower, i put some mousse in it and let it air dry.  if i dry my hair with a dryer, i turn into a big frizz ball.  i bought a hair magazine with pictures in it and there are some really good articles in there for the different hair types.  they recommend you don't wash your hair every single day, because that can dry out your hair.  good luck!


Thanks LinK

never heard of him. 


Here's another link...sm
If you go here:

http://cbs2.com/pets/local_story_097010014.html (scroll down a little) and then click on Play, you can see a local news broadcast of the story, and it shows Gracie looking like she's doing really well, poor baby. At the end, it says something about her being up for adoption, but I've read that she has been adopted. It looks like she's doing great now.

I'm disappointed that her abuser didn't receive more punishment. I live in So. Calif, and I thought we had stronger anti-cruelty laws. (I find myself wondering why his crime was only considered a misdemeanor!) But at least it was taken seriously and he is being punished. There was a time when nothing would have happened to him.

I read on one site that there s/b a site for animal abusers like there is for pedophiles. Sounds good to me. I'd sure want to know if some sicko like this was in my neighborhood. I did find a site where you can find some info. like this in your local area:

http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/cruelty_database/local_search.php


Here is a link...
http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/04/jay-z-in-a-plane-crash