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Warren Jeffs' nephew speaking out - see yahoonews

Posted By: I'm so angry!!!!!! on 2008-04-18
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Apparently the boys, including himself and his brothers, are also molested by this monster.  So he is just a horrible child molester who has brainwashed women into giving birth to new victims for him!!!!!


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My nephew is so cute :-)
He's about 6 month old now.  I put him down for a nap and he refused to put his legs flat so I could cover him, so I put the blanket over his legs the way he was.  He proceeds to put a foot on each cheek, reaches between his legs and pulls the blanket up to his chin.  He looked some someone with fake legs with his feet like that.  I was tearing up laughing.  Such a cutie pie. lol
My nephew did the same thing
but he came around eventually. Have you tried any of the books for kids like "Everybody Poops"?
Nephew and car -- sorry it is long
My nephew is a Police Captain and this is what he has done with his boys.  Oregon also has a law stating that for the first six months of having your license you can only drive with family members in the car, which they did.  They had an older car that needed some fixing up and so and my great nephew (his oldest son and I)  I went to junk yards, got the pieces that were needed, and then he and his step grandfather put it together and made sure it was mechanically safe and that was his car.  Because he was in the Honor Society, he got a cut in his insurance but if he ever dropped his grades he would have to pay the difference.  He had a part-time job while playing baseball and making All Stars and got a college scholarship for baseball and paid for his gas and running around.  Then when he graduate and started college he got his own car and could not believe it but this kid does not care about fads or whatever and got a Ford Taurus because it was in good shape, could haul his baseball equipment and had air condiitoning.  He paid for it himself with graduation money, jobs, etc.  He is still doing well.  The second one was basically the same.   He drove the older car that we fixed up when David got his new car.  Again they were not embarassed or anything.  They just wanted transportation.  He then got a part-time job, he was not in sports so could work more, saved up money and bought an older Blazer because he is  fisherman and wanted the 4-wheel drive.  But he again has good grades, and stays out of trouble. But they are responsible for the up keep on their cars, etc.  I think it all depends on the kid and what they are involved in and so on.   They appreciated everything that we all did to help them, they take care of their vehicles and are proud of what they have done.  But I think that by running errands and doing things for you she is paying for the car and upkeep.  If she is busy and has good grades and stay out of trouble, help her all you can.  If her attitude is great, again help her.  Just as long she doesn't expect it and appreciates what you have done.  And not one of them have gotten a ticket or been in an accident and are 18 and 20 now.
Have guy cousins in early 20s and my nephew
is 17. They shop a lot at Macy's. We're in the NY area. Apparently certain brand names are "in" like Ecko, Sean John, Polo, etc. but can be very expensive. As far as hairstyles, maybe check out the hairdos on some of the clothing/store websites. Here's one from Macy's. If I lived near you; I'd help with the makeover :) Sounds like fun. lol

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/index.ognc?CategoryID=11345&PageID=11345*1*24*-1*-1&kw=Sean%20John&LinkType=EverGreen
Heard from my nephew in Iraq!
I have written briefly about my 19-year-old nephew who is involved in this latest operation in Baghdad to route Al-Qaeda insurgents. Since it had been announced that his Division/Brigade was one of the primary groups in this action, we've all been just sick with worry. I just wanted to let you guys know that I had a very brief "I'm ok" email from him last night. He can't really say what he's doing or anything (naturally) but we're just sop happy to hear that he's okay. I can't think when I've been happier to open an email in my life! So I just wanted to share that happy news and to thank those of you who are praying/sending good thoughts/etc. for all of our troops. It means more than you can possibly realize.


On behalf of my nephew and other GIs overseas, THANK YOU
My nephew reports to me that the anonymous gifts to guys in his unit have been pouring in, lifting their spirits and reminding them of why they are so far from home at this Christmas season. Obviously, I don't know who all of the packages are from but to any of you who have remembered any of our servicemen and women overseas, thank you from the bottom of my heart. These kids (and they are mostly kids 18-25, in my nephew's unit at least) have seen awful things and mostly have to always be on the alert - how BEAUTIFUL that they have been remembered.
My SIL changed a couple weeks before she had my nephew.
She had to work it out with her insurance who would be paid what but if you aren't comfortable, don't go back. I'd complain to the hospital about the nurse too.
Clueless too and that's what I need to know! I snooped on my nephew's my space...uh-oh
I didn't sign up or anything - I just did a Google of his name with my-space and found it that way...he's not private. He's 18. So how would it/he know who I am? Anyone?

And the best is when I told my sis (his mom) and she said YOU DID?!?!?!?!?!??

I said, didn't you?

She said yeah.

LOL!
Just took my 10 y/o nephew to see The Last Mimzy. What a great movie
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That's for sure, but my nephew's wife is a school teacher and
actually lost a job some years back because she took a child by the shoulder to calm him down after disrupting the class. They are not permitted to do anything, and God knows so many of the homes these kids come from don't offer any kind of structure or discipline. It is a shame, but we are just letting the morals and beliefs we once stood for be taken over by thugs. The neighborhood I grew up in as a child was once a very nice neighborhood. No one dares go there now. It is in bad shape and filled with drugs and violence.  It breaks my heart.
Holiday gift for nephew in Iraq

I'd like to send a gift/gifts to my nephew in Iraq. This is his first Christmas away so I know it will be hard for him. If possible, I'd like to include something personal just for him and maybe some stuff for his buddies to share. I asked him point-blank what he'd like and, typical guy, he says "anything" which is of NO HELP at all. I have no clue what they're allowed to have or not have.


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Update on son graduation/nephew wedding

For those of you who may remember - my son is graduating high school this year and my nephew decided to get married in the same month.  I had received an email from my SIL stating that my son's graduation best not interfere with her son's wedding.  (longer story - that's the condensed version). 


Anyways, my son's graduation is May 15.  While at my SIL's today, they announced the wedding is May 11.  SO, definitely no conflict (whew) but after a few minutes I realized that the 11th is on a Monday (apparently it's cheaper to get married during the week).  And the wedding is in another town which means trying to get off work, get changed, gather all the kids, travel out of town (hour and a half away) and then get back home since the kids have school the next day and the adults all have to work the next day. (definitely not going to stress about it though and will be planning my son's graduation party for the following weekend  )


What would you all do? My SIL is making my DH attend my nephew's HS grad in Texas this June...sm

We live in Illinois.


He would be taking my youngest son with him also.  The total cost of the trip for the two of them would easily be $2000 since my DH does not get paid for taking time off work.  If he takes this trip that would mean no vacation for me or my other two kids next year since that's pretty much all we can afford is one vacation a year.  She is insisting her only brother (DH) be there at the actual ceremony which is on a Tuesday evening.  Then afterwards they plan on going out to dinner to celebrate - no party that would be it.


I would rather we go the following week, drive the entire family and stay the week and celebrate the whole week with them.  My son graduates high school in two years and I don't expect her to be at the ceremony for that.  We probably wouldn't have enough tickets for her anyway.


DH doesn't have the guts to tell her "No" since she's laying the guilt trip pretty thick. 


Do you think we are obligated to go to the ceremony?  She has more than enough family members that live over there that could attend (grandparents, aunts, uncles, her other children).


Thanks for any input. 


Admit it that YOU put yuor nephew's and your SIL's inheritance share into your POCKET.
It is me who 'got it' very clearly.
Speaking of that

One time about 5 years ago, I was driving on the interstate, my SO now DH riding with me.  Was just passing the rear of a trucker, cars behind me so there were witnesses to this and I couldn't just slam on my brakes, put on his signal and tried to pull out anyway.  Since I was already passing him, kept going, and he ran me off the road to the center.  Pulled back on and continued to pass him, had his window open and flipped me off.  I didn't see it because I was trying to control the car, but the funny part was my DH (SO) rolling down the window and hanging out giving him a double one back all the way until I got in front of the truck.  I said WHAT is going on!!  He told me the bas%$@d flipped you off.  Come on, they're high enough up to see there's a car right in front of them they want to pass.  I told SO I'm slowing down and get that guy's plate number so I can report him.  He slowed WAY down and stayed so far back that I finally gave up... Guess he wasn't in such a hurry after all.  We still laugh about my husband's ~chivalry~ that day, him hanging out there giving him the double what for!  Wish I had a pic of that for posterity


Not dissing truckers here, my own brother was one for quite a while and have had a couple who stopped to help me and went out of their way when I had a flat tire on the interstate one time in rush-hour traffic on Friday afternoon.  My brother said that was really nice of them because it's money out of their pocket, but he did always say to report truckers who are playing games because it's so dangerous.


Speaking for myself.....
it is quite the opposite. Any thread not adhering to the politically correct policies of this country is in danger of being deleted. Christians are not politically correct and never will be on this earth.
Speaking of AI
Is anyone here going to see them on Tour?  Tickets go on presale tomorrow and I can't wait to get tickets.  My friend and I take our daughters and go every year.  We make a day out of it.  We become groupies for the day.  We've had great luck meeting most of the idols since season 5 and I'm looking forward to meeting Adam and Danny this year. 
well, speaking from experience (OP)
I never "sat on the bench with my breasts out" after breastfeeding my son.  Most women *put them up* after the job is done.  Come on now, be realistic about this issue...
Speaking of condoms...

DS (15 yrs old) came home from school yesterday and I asked him what was new. He said the usual - "Not much."


Then.... "Oh, yeah, we learned how to put on a condom in sex class."



I about fell over!!!! Apparently, the teacher had a ... uh... plastic "subject" and she asked for a volunteer to come up and apply the condom to the ... uh... model. And it's called "Health class," but he refers to it as "sex class."


Whatever happened to food fights in school????


No, seriously, I'm glad they learn this stuff. You know what they say, "The More You Know...!"


His speaking out against it would scares me too. (nm)
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sorry, His speaking out against it would scare me too.
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not OP but statistically speaking there are far more

There are online websites documenting how many men versus women in each city of this country and the number of women today far outweigh the number of men......


jes sayin'............. 


speakers not speaking!
help!  i may need to test for a new job this weekend.  Cannot understand why speakers aren't working.  They are plugged into wall and correct port and turned on.  Mute is not on.  Checked in control panel and volume is up.  I tried 2 different sets of barely used speakers. What else can i check?  thanks. 
And speaking of kids...

One time quite awhile ago I was pushing my youngest through the mall in his stroller.  There were two boys goofing around in the middl of the mall with the parents right nearby.  I had to stop suddenly because one of the darlings wasn't watching where he was going and fell over the stroller.  I said, "Excuse me!" with just a bit of sarcasm and the father had the nerve to yell at ME because I was rude.  I then informed him that his kid was the rude one and kept walking.  That one still makes me shake my head.


You sound as though you are speaking from
Would you honestly want to be stalked by a man you thought you got rid of 19 years prior??? If the answer is yes, then I will gladly introduce you two.
I am not sure why they are no longer speaking
but in due to the fact that she has no contact wtih him, I don't think he should have stayed in the house once he found out she was there. She was visibly upset when she realized he was there and began crying. My phone then rang so I missed what she said to her other housemates. It just seems like this is not the place for this to be handled.
Speaking of spiders sm
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Speaking of Salad...

what kind of lettuce/other green leafy stuff do you like when you order/make a salad?


A couple of times I've gone in restaurants and they have brought me a salad that looked like they went out back and pulled weeds. Now, I love veggies, but that's some scary stuff. I'm simple..I just want iceberg lettuce!...then I can add other goodies that I can identify.


Speaking of homecoming...
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Speaking of Gardasil, I have a
Just curious if anyone here knows why they are not marketing this to males.  I have two sons, and I'm not sure whether or not I would/do want them to have this, but I remember reading several months back about Australia providing Gardasil for males also, and my sister made an excellent point about males being more likely to have multiple partners or to not want to use condoms so more likely to spread the virus, even though they cannot get cervical cancer (not saying females don't engage in risky behavior, it just seems to me that oftentimes girls are pressured into sex and all too often they do it because they think there is something special about the relationship, when really it is all about scoring for the guy, but that is just my opinion and I do know there are good guys out there, and my sons are being raised to be a part of that group), so it makes sense to me that males should also be protected from contracting the virus to begin with, and that vaccination of males quite possibly could offer a greater measure of protection overall than vaccinating females.  Just wondering what you guys think.
and speaking of slang......
the word bling just kills my ears I hear people my age (50s) and older saying it and that makes me cringe, especially if they say bling, bling.... guess next time I'll just say "Oh, snap"
speaking of dachsunds...sm
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I am speaking with very little knowledge here..

I have only met one (1) pit bull in my life.  It was very pleasant, wanted to be petted, and never hostile.  What I did notice is how muscular it was and I remember thinking that I wouldn't want that dog to snap at me.  All dog breeds are capable of being aggressive (especially if there is a dominance issue), but some breeds are more muscular and less *intidimated* by humans than other breeds.   It seems to me (dog experts, please correct me) it would be easier to pull a Yorkie or a Cocker Spaniel off an attacked person than a pit bull.  I don't know how that applies to bigger breeds like labs or retrievers. 


However, my humble opinion does not make up for the fact that you could face the loss of a loved family pet.  I hope it works out for you.


 


Speaking of pictures.....
My husband never knew his maternal GF, but was named after him. His maternal GF died long before he was born. Well, by the time my husband was in his 20s, he was the spitting image of his GF, right down to the mustache. My children used to look at the picture of their great GF and think it was daddy. They could have been twins. So, to have his mom name him after her father and then he turn out to be his spitting image, that is unbelievable! She had four other sons and none of them look like their GF.
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My DD opened her first checking acct a few weeks ago. She received her ATM card in the mail and, being a young woman, didn't want to wait on the PIN to come in the mail.  So she took the card to the bank and had it activated.  After this, the PIN she selected at the bank would not work, so she took it back to have it changed. She walks into the bank, tells the woman she needs to change her PIN cause the original one doesn't work...the woman takes the card, slips it into a machine, gets the new PIN from my DD, and she walks out with her card with a new PIN.  The kicker is...the woman at the bank DIDN'T EVEN CHECK HER ID!!! For all she knew, my DD coulda found that card and brought it in to change the PIN so she could use it!
Speaking of shopping........

Anyone remember how the old stores were when there were 'Main Streets'? Remember the wood floors and the merchandise in wooden bins on tables? Remember the cookies and candy they sold that was all encased in glass? No escalators, and only the best stores had elevators? Elevators with a man asking 'what floor'?, elevators that creaked and had criss cross bars across the front, instead of doors that closed? Evening in Paris perfume for our mom's at Christmas, Old Spice or hankies with his initial on them for dad? Remember when all you could use was cash? And of course, those wonderful lunch counters? I remember one of them sold sardine sandwiches! Anyone remember?


Speaking from experience!
I was always attracted to younger guys, too. I met a guy who was 15 years younger than I am. Never been married, had no kids, minimal baggage, etc.

It started as totally physical on both of our parts, as I was always a 'use 'em and lose 'em' cougar.

Fast forward...We've been living together for 1-1/2 years and are getting ready to make this legal next week.

It's NOT age that matters. It's life experience that makes the connection and erases the chronological gap. My BF has lived as much and been through similar things in his life as I have been in mine. We have everything in common, from life experience to music to movies to our quirkly senses of humor. In areas where I'm weak, he's strong; in areas where he's weak, I'm strong. We're the perfect complement for one another.

Initially people think we're an unusual couple, but once they spend any time at all around us, they realize we're so much alike that we can almost read one another's minds and are perfect together.

Don't let that age difference influence you...Go with your heart. I never thought I'd change my ways and settle down, but ANYTHING is possible.

Good luck to both of you!!!
speaking from experience . . .
A similar thing happened a couple of years ago when my daughter was in 6th grade. A girl a couple of years younger told her she was going to kill her. This girl has some problems, but after thinking about it and talking with my husband, we decided to go to the principal. Now most kids say this not meaning it, but they need to LEARN IT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. It is WRONG, it is AGAINST THE LAW and they can be arrested for making terrosit threats like that to another person. it's this warped sense of what's right and what's wrong that leads these kids to major difficulties later in life. The principal tried to blow me off, but I told her one more time and I go directly to the cops. My daughter had nightmares and slept with me a couple of nights until I went to the principal and talked to her and told her what I would do if this ever happened again. This little girl never said anything like this again and is very aware of who I am and how she acts around me. CHILDREN NEED TO KNOW THEY ARE BEING WATCHED AND WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. IT'S OUR JOB AS PARENTS. Haven't we all typed the ER reports where they hold a person for 24 hours after making threats??? I don't care how hold the child, this is a great lesson for her to learn.
Speaking of the dinner...

My son and his best friend, along with their dates went to a quite expensive restaurant before their senior prom in downtown Atlanta. Between the 2 boys, they probably had just enough for dinner, no dessert.


After their meal, the waiter brought out 2 big plates of dessert. Well, the boys kinda panicked...not knowing if the girls had ordered the desserts behind their backs or not, and knowing that they couldn't afford to pay for them.


Long story short, the waiter told the kids that someone in the restaurant had sent over the dessert and picked up their check! My son was so excited, he called me from the restaurant...thinking his dad and I had done this wonderfully generous act. It was tempting to take the credit, but we didn't.


They have no idea who it was but it made their night! I know, not related, but just a nice prom story!


speaking of scumbags
My BIL had ALS. My SIL put him in a nursing home and immediately got herself a boyfriend. When questioned by the family she said she needed someone to help her through this ordeal. BIL died, she remarried. Nobody in the family speaks to her anymore.
speaking of ignorance...sm
This young man, in some countries, would be considered a *man* by now and more than likely raising babies. Most *courts* in this country allow a *child* to choose which parent he/she wants to live with when the parents divorce. If the *child* is old enough to choose who he/she wants to live with, he/she should be old enough to decide if he/she does not want a *treatment* that is going to cause him/her much anguish and pain and suffering. A 13-year old is not a *child*, but a young adult and has had enough life experience to know what he/she wants out of life. If you understand this correctly, the mother is not refusing *treatment*, but rather refusing chemotherapy! There is a difference. The Bible states that for every disease and illness on the face of the earth, there is a cure and treatment. I do not believe it is referring to the thought that by throwing a bunch of harmful *chemicals* into the body that some pharmaceutical research person dreamt up with thoughts of $$ in his head, as a *cure*. Nature has already provided us with whatever we need to treat ourselves and our diseases. This is what this mother is searching for. How would you like to have someone tell you that you had to have a treatment that you don't want? Would you want someone to force you to be throwing up every half hour and lose your hair??? I highly doubt it.
Speaking of working or not......

My MIL is OBSESSED with whether or not we have any money and what we do with our money.  It IRRITATES me to no end!  I mean we HAVE our own money, we don't ask her for money, so get out of our bees wax!


She came to our house when I was re-decorating my bathroom.  I was doing it in roses and I was buying the stuff for it piece by piece and she was in the store with me looking at stuff and I showed her the garbage can I was going to get and it had roses and matched everything else, although I didn't get it that day.  SOOOO my MIL goes to the dollar store and buys me a plain white trash can and brings it over and tells me and my husband that she got that for a dollar and SAVED ME $19.00 for the 20 bucks that I was going to spend on a garbage can!!!!!  I told her I wanted the other one because it went with my theme and she told me that was ridiculous because this one serves the same purpose!  I was so mad, but trying to hold my tonge and then my husband told me he didn't want me getting the other one cause it may "hurt her feelings".  He said if i got the other one to just trade them out when she came over.  FURIOUS, FURIOUS, FURIOUS, that woman STAYS in our business, it's horrible!


speaking of coffee -- beans that is,

does anyone dip their c. beans in baking chocolate for snacks?  I heard you can do this, but wondered if they are real hard, too strong or just plain tasty this way???


Just speaking the facts, ma'am, ;)
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Speaking of Maury and You are not the father.
How come it only takes Maury 2 days to get results of paternity tests and they still haven't determined who Anna's baby's father is ?.  Maybe Larry and Howard - are not the fathers ?    Why do they need her DNA anyway ?  Is there a question about her being the mother ?  All very strange.  But I do agree, poor thing, at least she with her first baby right now.  She was quite wacky but still she was Anna Nicole.
Speaking of cats getting birds...sm
We have 2 feral cats that we feed (they've been trapped, spayed/neutered, vaccinated, then released, as the feral cat groups advise). They're actually very tame with us now. We've named them Isabelle and Nigel.

We have a covered patio area, almost entirely enclosed, where we feed them and have beds for them, so our dogs can't get to them (we call it the *cat house* LOL).

About a month ago, we went out to feed the cats at night, as usual, when what should fly into the cat house but a baby/young bird! It caught Isabelle's eye *immediately* (Nigel didn't seem to notice/care) but it was up high and she didn't move towards it. She seemed to be more focused on my husband as he prepared her food. I thought about trying to shoo the bird away with a broom, but I didn't want to startle it and send it right towards the cats.

Well, next thing you know, the baby bird decides it's time to fly away. As soon as it did, Isabelle took off after it at warp speed. It was amazing, really. She was up and over the fence after it in the blink of an eye. We stood there in shock, thinking there's *no way* she could have caught it. She was too far away from it when it took off. But then a few seconds later she jumped over the fence back into the cat house with it in her mouth, already dead.

Poor little thing. I wonder whatever possessed it to come in the cat house with 2 humans and 2 cats, at night. So sad, but that's the circle of life, I guess. ;o(
Speaking of weddings, tell me if I'm just being petty. SM

My father who is 68 years old and is getting married.  I'm not all fond of the woman he is marrying, but it's his life and I'm not a kid anymore, so whatever.  Thing is his woman is planning this obnoxiously big wedding complete with formal wedding gown and all -- 200+ guests with a fancy reception with dinner and dancing for everyone.  Then she wants a honeymoon to Paris which she is planning.  And I haven't even mentioned the engagement ring, let me just say $10,000!


So obviously I think this woman is over the top and a golddigger and a few other choice words I can't post on MTStars.  Don't you think an older couple each in their second marriage should have a smaller, family and close-friends only kind of a wedding?  Personally, I think if she wants such an extravagant honeymoon, she cut costs in the actually wedding and reception.


I've been holding my tongue, but I really want to say something to my dad.  Should I?  Ever since he starting dating this woman, I've been polite and friendly, kept my mouth shut.  Now that he has decided to marry her, I'm like WOA!  Am I just being territorial?


Speaking of dangerous LIARS
Have you made note of the people running OUR country into the ground - while killing with abandon in Iraq, etc., ad nauseam?