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That's more than a shame, if it's not true.

Posted By: nm. on 2008-05-13
In Reply to: I wish news stories couldn't come out until the person is convicted - guest

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How true. It is such a shame for some of these breeds to all

be put in a category of being dangerous, etc.  Like I stated in my post above in reply to the Pitbull in the Halloween costume some breeders play on some of the traits of the ones they feel will be more aggressive, larger, more muscle, etc.  Then they breed them with another dog they feel has that potential, and so on.  A responsible breeder who is concerned only for the well being of the dog and loves the breed will breed only the ones who do not display aggression or the potential for it.  I once went to the house of a friend whose dad had a Doberman for years.  The dog was there that night, and to be honest I was afraid.  I entered the house cautiously to find that the dog was afraid of ME.  She had a squeaky toy and lay under the chair all night playing with the toy.  She was a thing of beauty.  I will never forget her and I learned new respect and to do some reading and research before coming reaching conclusions. 


you didnt write that conversation. shame shame
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Just shame on you is all I can say
you are upholding the kids whose behavior is out of hand? I do not know why a teacher would want to teach with what they have to work with now days and making excuses for children who intentionally do this is beyond me. Why in the world would anyone take up for such offensive, rude, crude actions from the children. If you have a medical disorder, which I would bet 99% do not have, then different. The ones you take up for are the same ones that cause the most problems for the parents. Boys will be boys? My daughter tried the belching in her younger days so it is not just boys and I, for one, will not put up with an action like this whether it is my child or not. Shameful.
It is a shame that
that known aggressive Pitbulls continue to be bred and thus aggressive ones get into the hands of irresponsible people. You made my point. Even with responsible people accidents happen, their dogs do sometimes get out. If you know your Pitbull is aggressive, having the potential to kill, in my opinion it is irresponsible to keep such a dog as accidents do happen and you cannot possibly guarantee your dog will never be in a position to cause harm or death to someone's pet or child. I know it is a hard decision to make when someone loves their dog, but we did it for the sake of others safety. It is very hard to justify how loving and gentle your dog is with you and your family after the fact. Until people become responsible and weed out ALL aggressive Pitbulls from breeding programs, which will never happen because of attitudes that "my dog will never get out and do anything bad," I agree with the banning of Pitbulls that some cities have instituted.
I think it's a shame s/m
to deprive children of the traditional Santa Claus.   Heck, I still believe in Santa Claus myself.  It is a spirit that lives within the hearts of old and young.  Kids eventually figure out for themselves that Santa is a fantasy.  We took our kids to our church's Christmas Even candlelight service and Santa came while we were at church.  We opened gifts when we came home.  There was no lying involved and their personalities were not warped either.
Well it is a shame, but it sounds like

We've been there and done that once already with "drunken neighbors" who played music really loud when my children were young!  They were nice enough I guess, but just partied all of the time and it got to the point where I couldn't take my kids outside.  This was our old house.  Now we are much happier, but we are not in the country. 


Good luck in selling and I think it sounds like you are making the right decision!  Landlords are such a joke! 


I think it's a shame when adults
cannot put their differences aside for the 2 major holidays a year.
I agree with you 100% - what a shame
that when it comes to money, families only think of how much they will get. I could care less if I get money or not as it is none of my business and would rather have my mom than her money.

Again, great advice!
It is such a shame that her fame has caused
You hear so often of stars with private gardeners, make-up artists, etc.  Why not a private psychologist/psychiatrist/interventionist.  Such a cute girl and so much more life to live.  It sure does make you wonder if pushing your children into these types of fields is really the right thing to do.  I guess every job has its ups and downs, but I still wouldn't want to see my child have such turmoil when they were seen as "starlets" for so long.  I also think the media makes a big deal out of everything.  I don't think her actions are good choices, but I also think every little move the poor young mother makes is under scrutinization by the public.  You don't often hear about every day people dropping their kids and getting that much publicity.  Just like when Michael Jackson dangled his child over the balcony for example.  I have been around people that throw their children in the air and catch them.  This scares me, but I never see those same people on CNN that night throwing their child in the air and being scrutinized for that action.  JMO. 
Oh Eunice. That's really a shame. But I must say as a frequent

sufferer of insomnia myself, also mostly due to pain issues, I would be so eleated to get 5 to 6 hours of continuous sleep.  I can't recall the last time that occurred.  Why not follow your physician's recommendation regarding increasing the Pamelor, and if about 1 month you are still displeased with your sleep pattern, request a trial of another medication.  There are plenty of them out there.  Like I mentioned, trazodone is often prescribed as the initial line of therapy, most likely because it is non-addicting. If your PCP is prescribing the sleep aid, I would mention the problem also to your physician who is treating your fibromyalgia.  He or she may be more up on what helps insomniac patients who have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  If you want to discuss this further, feel free to post a message asking for my email address, as I have alot of experience and knowledge regarding sleep aids and could give you the ins and out if you so desire.  Take care.   


LOL. What a shame, she looks 20 years older
My husband says she looks just like Dolly Parton - and that was NOT a compliment. LOL
Great answer! and what a shame (sm)
That there are many people like that at churches.  I wonder why?  Maybe they like to prey on nice people and they can find people at churches who will be nice to them despite their behavior. Unfortunately it makes the truly nice people look bad when there are so many of those in the group.
Just heard she died. Such a shame.
I really hope they catch this guy.
I never dropped a baby and shame on anyone who has.
NM
shame on your 2 sisters! Did they talk
your mother into disinherit you or leave you out of her will? If there is nothing in written by your mother against you, you are still a legal heir and can still go to court!
Believe me, God will get them! Shame, shame!
It is a shame, that the truth is misconstrued as

Unless she likes to be homeless.  Or unless one of you want her to move in with YOU. 


Would you sit month after month when you are getting no work?  Then come on here and say, oh well, I wonder why I have no money to pay bills and now I wonder why I am getting evicted?


What is wrong with HARD WORK and FINDING A JOB when there is no money coming in?  


And evictions don't happen easily.  You can't just come up and evict someone. It takes a bit more than that.  There is sooooo much more to this story for sure. 


But you go on with your group hug if you think it will help her. I don't think it will.  I think she needs to look at her life situation clearly and see what went wrong and get moving. 


If she needs help she needs to seek it beyond this forum. 


Well, he WAS a prophet. Shame on cruel posters.
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A shame this place is so catty. But that is freedom of speech for you.
People come here to be supported, but need to realize there are all kinds of opinions out there. When you place yourself on a public forum to be supported expect to be bashed. That is the way of the world unfortunately. Just learn to try to see who wants to help and who wants to hurt. All kinds of agendas here. Your instincts will tell you who is real and who are the trolls. To all who are well-meaning here and look for support,or provide constructive criticism hang in there. Just filter out the bad and take away from it what you will.
Isn't that a shame? But it's not just a recent thing. I've heard of it
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That's great news. It's a shame that they couldn't prove it and punish him
for that horrible, horrible crime. I'm happy for the family in that they can get long-needed closure. While it will never take away the pain, but it has to give them some comfort in knowing who it was and that he is no longer walking the earth.

That poor sweet boy, may he rest in peace!
No way this is true... sm
my husband is Aries and has never had an accident in his 34 years of driving. My brother-in-law is also an Aries and he's never had a wreck in 28 years of driving.
Very true,
I just do not want to hurt my husband or hurt our marriage. I have been doing a lot of praying about the situation and I am not going to let him ruin our holiday. If I have to not go around him I will just not go around him. Thanks again for all the replies, God Bless and Merry Christmas
very true
But if you limit to under 20 gm for 2 weeks you will loose those bread cravings and sugar cravings. After that you have to slowly put them back in (the right ones fruits and veggies)and test at what level you will still loose weight. Adkins...But it you go overboard and cut them out for good will end ya in the hospital with kidney failure. Otherwise Adkins is a great program...2 weeks and the cravings end, amazing. I mark a start and end point for the 2 weeks on the calander and x out each day because to start it is brutal. As long as I can seen an end in site I'm ok. I lost 40 pounds on it 2 years ago and they put me back on meds to manage chronic pain and it went right back on, now I am learning to manage both. Bad back and extra weight are not a good combination.
according to what or who is this true?
reincarnation maybe? 
So true!
You are so right--wish more had your compassion! There should be a ''Golden Rule'' for animals!
True but if you think about it -
helping someone to help themselves to not be a drain on taxpayers is NEVER a bad idea.

I was a single mother at 18. I had no one to depend on and couldn't get welfare. It was a long struggle but I did it and I did it on my own. Not everyone can.
So true.
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LOL true!
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That's not true
They will remove that money from your account unless they have some sort of overdraft protection that prevents it from bouncing. But if the check bounces, they will take the money from you. That is why at stores, they always have signs saying you will be charged a $25 fee for a returned check - because that money was taken away from them.

I had a $300 check that was given to me bounce and they took that $300 away from me - that was a mess!!!
Not true
My parents have been happily married for 45 years and in my entire childhood I remember them having 1 fight.

This is not to say a man is necessary for happiness. I personally have never married, am still single (and happy) at age 41. But I know its possible to find someone like that--in the meantime, I am happy with my life and will never "settle" for less just to have a man.
Very true (sm)
No woman should ever need to be dependent on a man to survive, ditto for men being dependent on a woman. Everyone should be self-sufficient in life.

Please teach your children, male and female, to learn a trade or a career that will allow them to support themselves. Please teach them to establish their own credit rating. Teach them to live beneath their means. Teach them self-respect and morals. Teach them to be self-reliant and independent. If they have the fortune of finding a wonderful man or woman, they are blessed as will be their children. If that wonderful man or woman turns out to be Satan in human form, they will possess the right strengths to handle the situation. If the wonderful man or woman drops dead long before their time they will at least have the knowledge and ability to support themselves and/or children.

There are wonderful men and women out there. You usually don't find them in bars. It takes more than 6 months to determine if they are worthy of you. Don't "settle". We are all responsible for our choices and hopefully learn by our mistakes.

To the women on this board who think they can't leave their husbands because they don't have the financial resources, please consider if staying is worth the lesson your children are learning in how to treat a wife. If that husband dropped dead right now, what's the difference? A life insurance policy? You will find a way to survive. No child deserves to grow up in a battlefield. Stop the cycle of abuse by teaching your children that being abused, whether physically or mentally, is never acceptable. Standing up for yourself so you can stand up for your children. Teach your children strength in by doing what is right, whether it is seeking counseling and/or leaving a bad marriage.

The woman that started this thread was so right in saying that when you hit middle age and beyond, you will be astounded at where life went and why you didn't make it better when it mattered most. Listen to your elders!

I decided to leave a bad marriage after 13 years. My husband had pulled "the last straw" and I told him I was leaving without batting an eyelash. On the inside I was in a complete wreck. Didn't know where I would go, how I would survive, but bad husband be damned, there was no way on this planet I was going to let my son grow up in that environment. I gave up all the comforts, the fancy home, the new cars, the vacations, etc. I'd do it again in a NY minute and I don't miss it in the least. NOTHING is worth compromising your sanity and your children's identity.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." - Eleanor Roosevelt
That's true, too.
I am sure now that I have invited her to email me we will do just that. That, of course, does not mean that we can't or won't use this board too, probably just not as much. I have only been speaking with this person for many a week, it's not like we have tied up the board for months. I know what you are saying, and frankly I have thought of that, too. It is annoying to us to be put down for just being friends. People who love their animals can't say enough about it, and that way it would be totally private and we can talk the whole DOGgone day or night. How about it, Me2, give me your opinion.
How very, very true!
Reading that just took me back twenty-five years! At the point where he asked me not to tell the cast members in his play who I was because they didn't know he was married (and I actually complied!)I knew it was either get out or commit suicide. I made the sane choice.
Is it really true?
Reading a great little book called "Food Pets Die For" I learned that the recent epidemic of pet deaths forcing recall of nearly a hundred brands of poisonous commercial pet food is only the "tip of the iceberg". Is it true that ground up roadkill, diseased pet carcasses, and slaughterhouse waste, mixed with grain unfit for human consumption and laced with synthetic preservatives, is considered a healthy diet for people's beloved pets by most veterinarians? If not, then why do so many vet offices sell the stuff?
Yes, it's true

I've heard the Wal-Mart brands are the worst (like Old Roy).


I have to feed my dog a special dog food I get from the vet for dogs with kidney and bladder problems because he gets bladder stones. Hill Science Diet makes it.


I also get regular boneless chicken breasts from the grocery store, usually about 10 pounds at a time, cook them up in the crock pot (I have a 5-6 quart crock pot), put them into plastic bowls and freeze them. Since he is a small dog, that makes enough food for his "supper" for a month or more. I usually try to catch sales for $1.99 a pound (sometimes $1.49 a pound). That's only $20 for a month's worth of food that you know is at least reasonably healthy.


Very true
My friend goes to garage sales every weekend. She collects antiques and picks up things at sales that people have no idea how much they're worth and she buys them for close to nothing and finds out they're work hundreds of dollars.
That might be true but
a person working at the jail, prison, etc., etc. is not allowed to give out that information about a person. Right?
True
So true....I guess I worded the message wrong....just trying to say she did right thing by going home to her family....leaving the past for what it was.....
so true

In our state they had instituted a program called "young 5's", which was basically a year of pre-K where they did the exact same cirriculum as K.  I saw no point in it as my child was K ready, so I insisted they just go ahead and put him in Kidnergarten.  His teacher kept hassling me about it during conferences.  She was an old battle-ax that insisted she knew better than me and he belonged in pre-K.  She couldn't give any reason other than "emotionally immature" (what 5 year old isn't?).  She informed me that sooner or later, he'd be held back a year because of my arrogance about his ability and pushing him into something he wasn't ready for - SHE knew, SHE had been in the business a long time and SHE was the expert.


He started high school this year at the age of 13 (he'll be 14 next month), and still hasn't been held back a grade due to "emotional immaturity" - in fact he's doing just fine.  I think when he graduates I'm going to track her down and rub her face in his diploma - I'm still peeved at her after all this time for trying to bully me into keeping him back a year .


This is true...
And I did think about that. Like I said, I'm happy with the bonus, just not about the danged taxes...
Sad, but true . . .
that during the holidays there can be so much pain. There are millions of families hurting right now, and the holidays just make it more painful. We have the image that this is supposed to be about family, togetherness, and all is well.

I too have an unstable family, and it can get pretty painful, if I let it. I am the oldest with 6 sisters, and most of them do not include me in the holidays. I could go on and on, but the bottom line is this:

You cannot force anybody to change. You cannot force your family to have a relationship with you, and most of all, you must take the focus off about who did what to who, and bring it back to center in yourself. The more you disconnect from the chaos within the family, and focus on your center - that part of your being that is whole, loving, at peace, and connected with the real meaning of Christmas, the better you move in the right direction. I know it's hard, very hard, but look to someone who has accomplished this and is a model for you. Take the best of who you are, and show your granddaughter what family love is about. You can have a wonderful time with her, and those who choose to be a willing part of your life. Family is not always about blood relations. Family are those who uphold you, who share your values and beliefs, and who are able to express love willingly, and in a healthy manner. It is better to be in a stable environment that is mentally,emotionally and spiritually healthy, than to be in an environment with tension, anxiety, and pain.

I too am learning the hard way. I have six sisters who are totally chaotic, and cannot get together in the same room because some have so much bitterness and hate. I learned that I cannot be the catalyst for holding the family together. I tried that, and all that happened is I got kicked out of the family for being what my sisters says is judgemental. So be it.

There are many supportive groups around the holidays that can help you cope. Look in your community services, churches, and support groups. I am going to Al-Anon for the holidays to cope with my family of origin issues.

In the meantime, keep your chin up, and give that child a loving holiday. My prayers are with you.
That's not true
Please don't throw out information unless you know for sure.
So true! nm
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Very true.
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Its true

The majority are expected (and actually counted on) not to think, to focus on themselves and only what's beneath their very noses, the acquisition of products nobody truly needs, and fluff entertainment only, and not take an interest in any real issues. 


The government and media expect, and actually think they need, people to stay shallow, uniformed, marginally educated, and childishly willing to be led wherever "authority" tells them to go as long as it sounds good.


Perfect example of this is the housing crisis.  People were told by "professional experts" they could afford too much house, and that they could always refinance, so they signed for it.  They didn't bother to question or think, and now are up a creek.


Many people are lazy and don't want to think too hard.  They don't want to take responsibility for themselves, much less responsibility for issues affecting others, their country, or their world.  They learn to care about MS Spears by staring blankly at the tube, and whatever they see there often will be what they are interested in and care about.  They'll only touch a newspaper to find a sale or a job, a magazine for the pretty pictures and short, breezy tales that don't strain their attention span.  And books - if you can get them to touch one - only for entertainment, and not too thick, please!


We are being trained to be like this.  We are letting ourselves be trained.  We are letting our children be trained.  You are not crazy.  It is the truth.


Oh so true...
There was something on the comedy stop I think like a letter written to the advertisers about this slogan... it was really funny.
not true
I am not a Barak Obama person nor a Hillary Clinton fan, however, some of the information is not true. . I believe he was sworn in using a Bible - not the Koran. . and he made a statement on 60 minutes or somewhere that he has, in fact, lead the Senate in the Pledge of Allegiance on more than one occasion. . I don't know about the rest of the stuff mentioned but I don't think you can believe everything you read on the internet... I personally am not planning to vote for him but just think some of the things mentioned aren't true. .
This is true...but
I agree with you...this is an animal! I can't even imagine what was going through his mind while he was doing this to that poor girl. However, I think life in prison is worse than the death penalty. Society makes it seem as though death is the worse thing, but I think that's the easy way out. This way he has to sit and think about this for at least the next 57 years. I've been watching the specials on MSNBC about life in prison and the inmates there are just animals. Their cells are tiny and they hardly have room to move inside. I think this is far worse than the death penalty. Life is beautiful when you act civil and lead a good life and I believe death and going to our afterlife is also beautiful and to offer that option to an animal who has done such a hanous (sp?) crime would be the worst decision. Here's this guy - a police officer, nice looking, pretty girlfriend about to have a baby and already a son. He had it good and he went and did this and now he can think about it and rot in jail and be somebody's bee-otch.
Sad but true!

I had to laugh out loud at your parable, otherwise I would be crying out loud.  By the way, I still have the pen they gave me!



 


Why is this so bad? It's true.
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this is true for me.
I have been sent to collections and told that I have to pay in full. I can not pay in full and regularly make small payments. I am still seeing physicians at the same entity and have to talk to a financial counselor at the visits every so often but I do not believe there is anything they can do as long as you make regular payments and show an effort.