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The court system is a rotational door

Posted By: Pat on 2007-07-08
In Reply to: Have to agree that the biological parents are not always the best solution. But we were just discus - nn

There was enough evidence. Even the mother who got the children back had her own father testifying she did drugs, lousy mother, on and on. I am so glad I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore. This is where the welfare $$$ went, to a person who did not have enough get up and go to see the kids off to school in the morning. What a waste but lawdy, lawdy, make sure these mothers get those kids back. Glad I am not involved in the court system anymore.


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They think anybody who is on aid is abusing the system. They resent the system and the people sm
who receive any aid at all.  that is very clear.
why do people go door to door to talk about their religion?

arent they settitng themselves up for confrontatoin?


We normally do have the door locked but the garage door was open...

and my husband did ask them to call first and they still didn't listen...they never do...I think they think they don't have to call...


Door to door sock salesman

Okay, so yesterday a little old man shows up at my door. Now let me say that I do not live in a neighborhood, really. I live on a major highway so you actually have to drive into my driveway and you can't really get to the next house without getting back in your car and driving there.


So I open the door and there's this little old man there with pairs of socks in large ziplock bags. He says:


"I'm raising money for a cancer operation to get cancer out of my stomach and I want you to buy these two bags of socks."


I say, "I'm sorry, I don't have any cash in the house, but good luck."


"How can you not have any cash in the house?"


"We use credit cards."


"You can't just use credit cards. Doesn't your husband live with you?"


"He's at work. Good luck, have a nice day."


"Well when he gets home he should have cash on him."


"Nope sorry, we're not interested. Have a good day."


I closed the door and he left.


Odd....very odd. But here's where it gets even more odd.


Today he showed up AGAIN. Only this time he didn't come to the door. He sat in his car in my driveway and beeped his horn. My mail lady does this when we have a package so I opened the door to go out, thinking it was her. The dog scooted out and while I was trying to get him back in I realized it was this man again......BEEPING for me to come to his car to sell the socks, I guess. I was so mad that my dog got loose I looked at him and yelled "WHAT DO YOU WANT??? I don't need any socks today!!!" Picked up the dog and went back in the house and slammed the door. He didn't get a word in edgewise. I'm hoping he won't be back.....I was down right RUDE to this man. I never speak to anyone that way. Hopefully he won't be back. Steve is concerned that he showed up a second time and even more concerned that he wanted me to go to his car this time. He wants me to get a plate number if this man comes back.


Wii system sm

I am so happy. Live in NE. My DIL inquired of a small local game store in a small mall when they would be in, they told her Tues. and to be there when they opened. She appeared and no one else was there, called me and said she was leaving as the shipment had not arrived and she waited alone for an hour. I told her to shop around in the little mall and keep looking for the brown UPS truck. She did and when the truck appeared at the small game store, she went over and acquired 1 of only 3 shipped. Another lady showed up, called her sister and they got the only 3 that the company shipped. This is how they are getting people, they' re limiting the shipments. At least this little store told her what day they come in, although only 3 arrived.


I asked at a Target down the street when Wii's would be in and they were very rude, "We get them, when we get them, don't know, Maa'm, you just have to keep coming in."


Motto of my story: Smaller is better. So happy, perhaps you can try the smaller game shops who will tell you when they're coming in. Since so many are looking, thought I would share our success story. The kids will have the Wii as well as the guitar that goes with it, thanks to the little guy store. I know Christmas is not only about the gifts, but I'm happy we got something the kids really wanted this year as they both take guitar lessons. Happy MIL


the system
In my opinion, I would not bother talking to any doctors or the school. The very, very last thing your son needs is for you to think something is wrong with him enough to drug him, maybe even for life.

There is one other resource:
Goertzel, V., Goertzel, M.G., Goertzel, T.G. & Hansen, A.M.W. (2004). Cradles of eminence: Childhoods of more than seven hundred famous men and women, 2nd edition. Scottsdale: Great Potential Press.

Based on this book of extraordinary and brilliant people, a happy childhood and a good mom don't make you successful. It is just the opposite. Look at any president, including the current one...not a happy childhood, but there they are busting their butts. We want our kids to bust their butts too, but it does not seem to work that way.

Read the book anyway and at least you will know that it is not your fault.

Our school system already has a
dress code in place, no belly shirts, shorts and jeans have to be a certain length, no huge baggy jeans on boys, etc. I know for a fact this is being in enforced in most of the schools becuase not only do I transcribe, I also substitute. My niece's parents were called over shorts that were to short. My son also had to change into his gym shirt because he was wearing a (green) T-shirt from Octoberfest with a beer mug (in all white) on it. That was my fault, I stupidly did not think anything of it but would not have let him wear it had I realized what it was advertising. My kids and so many other do follow the rules. I don't think they should be penalized for the few that don't. We live in a small town so we don't have many of the same problems that bigger cities have. At the first of 3 forums the other night, the auditorium was packed and not a single person spoke in favor of this. I would like to know how this will improve our education system.
I have a point system...

My kids love to come to Wal-Mart with me on the weekend and so if they get X amount of points for the week they get to come to Wal-Mart and get a little goodie.  If they get X amount of points above that, they get two little goodies.  For letting me work in peace I give two points, versus the one they get for everything else, so that acts as an incentive to keep out of my office.  If they come in while I'm working they lose two points.  This has worked pretty well thus far.  For your kids the incentive might be a different kind of treat, but try it and see how it works for you!


 


Mainly because I am fed up with the school system here. sm
He is in the 1st grade for his second time now and still very far behind in my opinion. Teachers last year felt he needed held back and I agreed, but it is just no better this year so I just pulled him out. At this point, I hope I can get him caught up! I have priced cirriculums, but really need to wait until after the first of the year to purchase with the holidays right now so I wanted something to get him going in the meantime. He has dyslexia and ADHD and the public school setting is just not a great learning environment for him. He needs more one on one attention and help than he is getting at school with 30+ kids per teacher.

I also found this site. Any opinions on if you think it is worth joining? I think it is $19.95/mo.

http://www.time4learning.com/aboutUs.htm
Yes, that's what's wrong with the system

That's exactly my point.  It's wrong on any level.  It was obviously an unfortunate accident that no one should benefit from.  If you daughter needs counseling to overcome this, then by all means take her and ask the dog owner to pay your copay.  I think it was very reasonable that the dog owner offered to pay your copay from the hospital bill.  You want revenge, not compensation. 


Something about this story doesn't make sense.  Your daughter comes running home dripping with blood and they had to pull the dog off her hand, but yet nothing was done with the dog.  The dog's owners are so unreasonable and yet they're offering to pay your out-of-pocket expense.  Your daughter is completely traumatized by all of this, and all you can think about is getting an attorney to sue for her pain and suffering.  Again, call what it is.


Probably because our judicial system keeps
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I do believe it is the same storm system s/m

Not sure when it turns to ice though.  If I remember from the radar last night, looked like southwest to northwest Ohio is going to get hit with this too.  Not sure about Sunday's storm yet.  I tried to pull up the radar, but it isn't showing for tomorrow yet. 


My daughter is supposed to be driving up from Dayton tomorrow and going back on Sunday, but I warned her not to.  She just might have to stay!


Have you used a tooth whitening system?
Like Crest Whitestrips or something else? Anything other than having the dentist do it? (That's so expensive!)
Yes - Rembrandt Whitening System. sm
It works beautifully. I am a smoker, unfortunately, and my teeth are actually white, no stains, and you could never tell I smoke. At least, that's what many people have said.

It is a gel system with a mouth piece. I love it. Cheaper than Zoom in the dentist office.
As a product of the USA school system, yes I have.

Nothing more than daycare in my opinion.  We should be looking at how other countries run things as far as the education system.  Why is there no school in summer anyway?  Wasn't the original reason so that kids could be with their families to work the harvest?  School should be year 'round and the kids should come out of it SMART.


Product of USA school system.....
Both my children are a product of the USA school system and they both graduated with top honors, high SAT scores, got scholarships for college. It's what you put into it. If students don't make the effort, or parents, what do they expect the results will be?
You definitely need a strong support system sm
right now. If being closer to your family will help you trough this then that is what you should do. You will be a better mother to your children if you are able to handle this better. About the money, since your child will be in first grade that should cut down on the cost of preschool. I am sure there are wonderful other speech therapists out there. Listen to your heart and "Go Home" and be surrounded by people that love and care for you.
Your state has a kickin' cam system!

I just spent about 15 minutes at this site: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/default.aspx


lookin' at all the cameras and the different weather situations!  Wow--that's incredible the HUGE differences in weather!  "The man" has cameras EVERYWHERE--and that's just the ones we can see on the internet!  


 


Sounds like the legal system
is trying to leave the discipline to the boy's parent. Is that so bad?
I did the "point" system several months
ago that I had done a long time ago and it does work. I lost 18 pounds in 3 weeks. Just stick with it.
I have a filtered water system on

my fridge.  It tastes better than any bottled water I have bought, it is free, and I don't have to worry about the plastic bottles to throw away or recycle. 


I once saw a thing on TV that said that bottled water is no healthier for you than tap water.  You might look into a Brita pitcher or something.  I think it would be cheaper than constantly buying bottled water.


Court TV is now Tru TV as of 1 1 08 nm.
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Some will go to court WITHOUT you..sm

without informing you.  Its your word against theirs that you were/werent served with a notice to appear.  Next thing you know, you get a letter that a judgment has been entered against you.  (Happened to me, and worse.)


 


I tried a system restore too, but wouldn't work.
I've had a lot of problems, even problems just getting used to the new set up. My Quick Look constantly freezes up on me too. It's very frustrating.
She needs to find out more about the system, and just how lucky she is. She is a misgruntled sm
middle classed woman, resenting any hands up those below her get.  She needs to count her blessings.  If she is not eligible for food stamps, then she is way ahead of the game. 
Aquasana shower filter system

Does anyone have this?  It sounds great and I'm thinking about getting it. Curious if anyone uses this or something similar.  tia


http://www.drwhitaker.com/order/aquasanaLP_expr.asp?promo_code=K6D03001&alias_code=91215L&cookie%5Ftest=1


they have some system now that they can sign up for to track who views sm
their myspace. not sure how it works because i didn't sign up for it, but i see it posted all the time. i view my daughter's friends sites all the time. noone has said anything to me yet about it, but i do communicate with a lot of them on there as they are friends and any friends of my children are friends with me as well. they know i wouldn't going ratting off on them unless it was something majorly in the wrong.
You can't force someone to learn so that they leave the system
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,,,use your support system, and find a lawyer who
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Our school has an excellent system in place - sm
Every year we fill out a million forms that have to be turned in on the first and second days of schools or they get grades knocked down----they then call and email you when they have anything going on. When they first implimented it last year I got 5 phone calls (have 2 kids in school). They worked out the bugs and now I get one call and one email. It is all automated and works quite well. I also work PT for the school so they they know my face and name so that helps too. The school policy is not to let any elementary or primary school child off the bus unless a parent is there. If the driver does not see anyone the kid goes back to the school. Parents get upset with it too, if they are too lazy to come out to the bus stop, then they have to get in their car and drive to the school (not a short jaunt) and pick up their kid. Very safety conscious here. (or lawsuit fearful!)
Sadly they would probably be better off in the foster care system.
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I wouldn't want to. I'm angry that our system is set up so that this innocent man could not b
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Could be issues with 9-1-1 service and if you have a security system (sm)
I think most home security systems require a land line to work. There are some possible issues with being able to call 9-1-1 without a land line - in case you can't talk and tell them where you are.
this should be challenged in court
This is NOT a communicable disease and should NOT be mandatory. What about possible side effects, what about 20 years down the line when they discover it caused a new problem. No. It is wrong to make this mandatory. This regards one's personal health decisions, for their CHILD no less. What next?
You need to get it back into court sm
and get this changed. Is there any reason you feel you might deprived of all visitation privileges? So hard to give real advice or opinion without the details. Sad for you though, must be hard. You need some court mandated visitation rules.
Yep, ordered to court but you might be ok
the only exempt 1 today was a new owner and he had just had lawn put down- but having said that- you are only allowed maybe a month and then after that a homeowner on same restrictions as others so don’t know how much it could get roots and grow by them. We have sprinkler system but I try not to use if I can, just too expense and I am cheap!
Court Jobs
Here where I live Court jobs pay excellent, plus there are all sorts of benefits, pensions, and a lot of time off. They're very had to come by, though. Some of them are civil service, and some is definitely who you know. I was a paralegal for a long time before I became an MT and I always wished I was able to get in the Court system.
I know my chances are 0 with that court

You said "I've seen them put kids in the custody of parents who are known to abuse them when the other parent has no problems, etc."


That's exactly the situation here.  My son wants to live with his dad due to his lax (to put it mildly) parenting skills and will cheefully lie to keep daddy out of trouble.  The last custody battle was the worst nightmare I ever hope to go through, every lie the ex told was taken as gospel, every truth I told was "alleged" - and while the judge was making the custody decision, my ex went to jail for being drunk and naked in his yard while my child was present, the court was quite aware of this and he STILL got awarded custody.  I am really reluctant to jump into another such fiasco, and I told my son until he is ready to tell the judge in writing he wants to live with me, I won't go back to court. 


I am convinced that by the time I got to court my son would be back in school, it would be a moot point, I would be told its "normal" to miss that much school, ex would get a pat on the head for his "loving parental concern", and the ex would retaliate by counter-filing to double or triple my child support payments.


That particular court has told me "lots of children go to school filthy and in rags, its the community norm, its no big deal".  My child has experienced recurrent scabies and lice due to his father's lifestyle, (which is also "normal" to the court) so I am utterly amazed at his dad's sudden concern for his health.


when you go to court in the USA, you swear on..sm
In every court in the USA, one swears on a bible, probably the New Testament (I know it's not the Old Testament), and no matter who you are, you have to swear on the Bible (in a trial case).  I would swear on it - it's a book about God, no matter if it's the old one or the new one, and as a result it still holds up as a respectable Bible to me for swearing to God.....I revere all books such as this, for everyone's religious beliefs. 
Unfortunately, I am court ordered to do it
..
They will take you to court, without doubt.
It isn't too little for them. If they have evidence you owe that debt, then they have legal recourse to collect.

If it goes to court, you will get a judgement against you. It will go on your credit record and they can also garnish wages to receive their money. They may be entitled to other collection means.

It won't matter whether you send a cease and desist letter -- it is a debt you legally owe. You need to call them immediately and discuss your concerns over the legitimacy of the claim. Never, ever avoid them - it will just cost you more in the long run.


yes, you can go to the family court and do that on your own.
You do not need an attorney. Research online. I think you even HAVE to do this, updating the financial situations for the sake of the children.
so what r u taking her to court for?

You didn't cosign for the vehicle.  You didn't loan her the $$ for her electric bill.  You didn't want any profit from the business.  The only thing I saw you mention was at the end about animal food, etc, but isn't that considered start-up costs of a business? 


Sorry, don't mean to make you madder, just confused.


sad we have to battle the school system that we pay for, but has she been tested for dyslexia? sm
sounds like a repeat of my daughter who is now in 5th grade and it has been a battle every since. in fact, i posted message on here few months ago regarding her. she also has dyslexia, which is quite common and sounds like your daughter may have too. we had it in our family so i knew she had it given her symptoms. school says they can't test til 3rd grade. hello, who can catch up when they are that far behind? i fought it enough i finally got someone to say, we can test earlier if the parents' request it. so they did and it has helped her tremendously til we moved this year and now she gets a "video" dyslexia class that sux and doesn't help. i am not sure how to continue battling it from this point. at her prior school though she went from failing to A's and B's with dyslexia help and extra time on assignments, verbal reading, etc. with her IEP.
I have watched enough court room TV
to know that if someone offers to store stuff for another person, they are obligated to make sure that it is properly taken care of. I remember one case where someone had taken the items that they offered to store and then put them in the hallway outside the unit when they got in an argument. Of course they were stolen! That is negligence. They offered to store them for her. They should have parked them with their own quads, as obviously they thought that was safer than near the street, geez.

I agree that it is sad to lose a relationship over $1700, but they were clearly negligent with her property. If her sister was any kind of a woman, she would have admitted it was her fault. I also think that if she would have just admitted it and said sorry that the OP would probably not have been as upset as she was. I have no doubt some of that resentment is due to the fact that they are taking no responsibility whatsoever.

You need to contact the supreme Court
Florida tried to make sacrificing animals illegal but were overturned by the Supreme Court in 1993 for interfering with religious practices.
You can be held in contempt of court and go
NM
When you are summonds to court, do you have a choice
about whether you can show up or not?? What was the good behavior, no more sex films for the time being, not more than 3 DUIs? I have not heard about her good behavior.
I got wrong information from court..
Told I could go in and collect enough to not only pay what they owe me but also to cover the truck I rented this morning and also more court costs because they would sell in 1 bundle on court house steps. The deputy this morning tells me I can only get what totals up to my amount. This is where I am left- paying out of pocket for another truck, renting a storage place for a month, running ad in paper to advertise the sale and then also paying for other costs, autioneer. Now if someone bids $5.00 and no one else goes higher - they get for $5.00. You are so right- if I stole from them I would be under the jail. How a place like this stays in business- not small place - 4 around town. They are on Kudzu and I will write scathing report after this is over plus better business but right now trying to find out bank. I could sit there but I do work and how can I work that? Have no idea when anyone would go to the bank. I can garnish- thought about having someone pay check there for a small amount and then see where deposited. That would take me another month or so though and I am chomping at the bits as I type.
By not transcribing a court hearing
a woman here in town is now sitting in jail. She either did not want to or ignored not finishing a particular case and when she did so called finish, she was 90 pages short. The judge has just sent her to jail. Ekkk.
maybe i watch too many court shows, but...
couldn't you locate him through his police/firefighters' union and take him to small claims court. if it was truly a loan and not a gift, you have a case and if it is under a certain amount of money depending on your state, you do not need a lawyer. do not give up; he could lose his job over fraud!