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The noncustodial parent needs to get court-ordered...

Posted By: M.A. on 2007-05-17
In Reply to: I have a question about noncustodial parents and - visitation.

visitation, which the custodial parent will have to abide by.


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Noncustodial Parent
Children pay dearly when adults act like this. They need their mom, dad, grandparents, and family members in their lives on a REGULAR basis. Withholding visitation for any reason will come back to haunt the custodial parent one day ... and their children will pay the price.
Yep, ordered to court but you might be ok
the only exempt 1 today was a new owner and he had just had lawn put down- but having said that- you are only allowed maybe a month and then after that a homeowner on same restrictions as others so don’t know how much it could get roots and grow by them. We have sprinkler system but I try not to use if I can, just too expense and I am cheap!
Unfortunately, I am court ordered to do it
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I have a question about noncustodial parents and

What to do if the custodial parent withholds visitation because the noncustodial parent is behind on child support. It is my understanding that this is not legal and that they are two separate issues. My family and friends have gone through issues with their ex-spouses and it is my feeling that the custodial parent holds all the cards and because of some guilt on the noncustodial parent's side, they let them. They tell them when and where they can see them, and make unrealistic demands, like what they can eat, and they have to go to church, or just stupid stuff like that.  I say its great if you can both agree on some of these issues, but as long as the child is not in danger the ex-spouse cannot TELL you what to do with your own child when they are with you.  It just burns me up.


Anyone, please share your thoughts on this and the best way to handle the basic rights of a noncustodial parent. The custodial parent, says stuff like "well, I don't think I am going to let her/him visit you this summer". I say they should call their bluff and demand to see the child by whatever means it takes, such as police, etc.


Thanks so much. just ordered some--nm
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I almost ordered one of those
until seeing your post, it is the only reference I have seen about the Eden Pure. What went wrong with it? Could it have just been a bad one? Kinda curious. Could it be you are in an exceptionally cold area while I am on the coast where it would not have to work so hard?
I ordered the DVD and the book.
I have been applying The Secret for about 2 or maybe a little more weeks now.  Also my husband and grown son are using it.  We are all experiencing interesting results.  I am using it to lose weight and so far have lost several pounds without dieting. My son worked on 5000 dollars and last week received 1000 and then got another 4000.  My husband is using it for more energy. 
After my trying day this is just what the doctor ordered! SM
Thank you for those gorgeous pictures. Is there anything in the world more wonderful than the animals we live with, learn from and love?  I can go to bed now with a smile.
Just ordered his phone!
My dad is the same with regards to modern technology.  He does not even own a computer and I think he believes the "internet" is some entity that is not to be trusted LOL He still actually drives to his bank to take care of any business!  Maybe your mom and my dad can hook up
I ordered from the website, and when I called in my
order I expressed that I, too, thought it a bit pricey, and she told me that they were having an after Christmas sale, so she told me to check back with them, and she also said they will be adding new designs.  She didn't say how much everything would be discounted, but I'll check back.  The pieces are so pretty!
Thanks. I just ordered the salt and the baconaise
I think, if the Baconaise is good, DH will be happy. He can have BLTs again. That's his favorite sandwich.
anyone ordered prescriptions from Canada?
I'm on Benicar, Restasis eye drops, and Celebrex and found out the group insurance offered by my new company has $5000 deductible and doesn't cover drugs. I bought BCBS on my own and there is an extreme limit on brand name drugs. I'm thinking about ordering from Canada but wondered if anyone else has done that. They advertise 180 Celebrex for $97 and BCBS will charge $180 for only 30.
I did the same thing, ordered a TVon line- sm
on Thanksgiving Day and went at my leisure yesterday morning and picked it up in the store (was only a 24" so manageable)--cheaper to pick it up than have it shipped. That was my B-day present to myself with my B-day money, ended up costing us only $50 plus gas to get it (about $8). Still was able to hit Sears early enough though and get my DH some good deals (50% off) on tools; he's a happy camper about that. Those that go out at 5 a.m. I think are nuts. I've always just gotten up at normal time and be out the door by 8, all the early bird specials are usually good until 11 or 12 as it is. Happy shopping!
Turned out to be Domino's pizza - which I ordered
I tell you, it's a tough world!
I just ordered Bare Minerals makeup.
I've got very uneven skin tones, red blotches, etc. and hope this will help.  The money back guarantee sounded good.  I see Cover Girl, Maybelline and others are now using the same concept.  Any info, thoughts or suggestions?  TIA
"trees" are up. I have 2. Ordered one this year for our master bedroom and sm
it is huge!! We have vaulted ceilings. Then we have our 7.5 in our living room. The one in our bedroom is near the fireplace and has very nice collectable ornaments and the other tree has just memorable ones, ornaments kids made, etc.

But my favorite decoration this year is a topiary that I made. I wish I could take a picture. I love it! I just made it up with leftover things I already had. It is gorgeous. Sits on my dining room table as a centerpiece. Having a huge Christmas party tomorrow night.
Most places guarantee delivery by the 24th if ordered by the 22nd. EAsy.
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Court TV is now Tru TV as of 1 1 08 nm.
nm

Some will go to court WITHOUT you..sm

without informing you.  Its your word against theirs that you were/werent served with a notice to appear.  Next thing you know, you get a letter that a judgment has been entered against you.  (Happened to me, and worse.)


 


this should be challenged in court
This is NOT a communicable disease and should NOT be mandatory. What about possible side effects, what about 20 years down the line when they discover it caused a new problem. No. It is wrong to make this mandatory. This regards one's personal health decisions, for their CHILD no less. What next?
You need to get it back into court sm
and get this changed. Is there any reason you feel you might deprived of all visitation privileges? So hard to give real advice or opinion without the details. Sad for you though, must be hard. You need some court mandated visitation rules.
Court Jobs
Here where I live Court jobs pay excellent, plus there are all sorts of benefits, pensions, and a lot of time off. They're very had to come by, though. Some of them are civil service, and some is definitely who you know. I was a paralegal for a long time before I became an MT and I always wished I was able to get in the Court system.
I know my chances are 0 with that court

You said "I've seen them put kids in the custody of parents who are known to abuse them when the other parent has no problems, etc."


That's exactly the situation here.  My son wants to live with his dad due to his lax (to put it mildly) parenting skills and will cheefully lie to keep daddy out of trouble.  The last custody battle was the worst nightmare I ever hope to go through, every lie the ex told was taken as gospel, every truth I told was "alleged" - and while the judge was making the custody decision, my ex went to jail for being drunk and naked in his yard while my child was present, the court was quite aware of this and he STILL got awarded custody.  I am really reluctant to jump into another such fiasco, and I told my son until he is ready to tell the judge in writing he wants to live with me, I won't go back to court. 


I am convinced that by the time I got to court my son would be back in school, it would be a moot point, I would be told its "normal" to miss that much school, ex would get a pat on the head for his "loving parental concern", and the ex would retaliate by counter-filing to double or triple my child support payments.


That particular court has told me "lots of children go to school filthy and in rags, its the community norm, its no big deal".  My child has experienced recurrent scabies and lice due to his father's lifestyle, (which is also "normal" to the court) so I am utterly amazed at his dad's sudden concern for his health.


when you go to court in the USA, you swear on..sm
In every court in the USA, one swears on a bible, probably the New Testament (I know it's not the Old Testament), and no matter who you are, you have to swear on the Bible (in a trial case).  I would swear on it - it's a book about God, no matter if it's the old one or the new one, and as a result it still holds up as a respectable Bible to me for swearing to God.....I revere all books such as this, for everyone's religious beliefs. 
They will take you to court, without doubt.
It isn't too little for them. If they have evidence you owe that debt, then they have legal recourse to collect.

If it goes to court, you will get a judgement against you. It will go on your credit record and they can also garnish wages to receive their money. They may be entitled to other collection means.

It won't matter whether you send a cease and desist letter -- it is a debt you legally owe. You need to call them immediately and discuss your concerns over the legitimacy of the claim. Never, ever avoid them - it will just cost you more in the long run.


yes, you can go to the family court and do that on your own.
You do not need an attorney. Research online. I think you even HAVE to do this, updating the financial situations for the sake of the children.
so what r u taking her to court for?

You didn't cosign for the vehicle.  You didn't loan her the $$ for her electric bill.  You didn't want any profit from the business.  The only thing I saw you mention was at the end about animal food, etc, but isn't that considered start-up costs of a business? 


Sorry, don't mean to make you madder, just confused.


I have watched enough court room TV
to know that if someone offers to store stuff for another person, they are obligated to make sure that it is properly taken care of. I remember one case where someone had taken the items that they offered to store and then put them in the hallway outside the unit when they got in an argument. Of course they were stolen! That is negligence. They offered to store them for her. They should have parked them with their own quads, as obviously they thought that was safer than near the street, geez.

I agree that it is sad to lose a relationship over $1700, but they were clearly negligent with her property. If her sister was any kind of a woman, she would have admitted it was her fault. I also think that if she would have just admitted it and said sorry that the OP would probably not have been as upset as she was. I have no doubt some of that resentment is due to the fact that they are taking no responsibility whatsoever.

You need to contact the supreme Court
Florida tried to make sacrificing animals illegal but were overturned by the Supreme Court in 1993 for interfering with religious practices.
You can be held in contempt of court and go
NM
When you are summonds to court, do you have a choice
about whether you can show up or not?? What was the good behavior, no more sex films for the time being, not more than 3 DUIs? I have not heard about her good behavior.
I got wrong information from court..
Told I could go in and collect enough to not only pay what they owe me but also to cover the truck I rented this morning and also more court costs because they would sell in 1 bundle on court house steps. The deputy this morning tells me I can only get what totals up to my amount. This is where I am left- paying out of pocket for another truck, renting a storage place for a month, running ad in paper to advertise the sale and then also paying for other costs, autioneer. Now if someone bids $5.00 and no one else goes higher - they get for $5.00. You are so right- if I stole from them I would be under the jail. How a place like this stays in business- not small place - 4 around town. They are on Kudzu and I will write scathing report after this is over plus better business but right now trying to find out bank. I could sit there but I do work and how can I work that? Have no idea when anyone would go to the bank. I can garnish- thought about having someone pay check there for a small amount and then see where deposited. That would take me another month or so though and I am chomping at the bits as I type.
By not transcribing a court hearing
a woman here in town is now sitting in jail. She either did not want to or ignored not finishing a particular case and when she did so called finish, she was 90 pages short. The judge has just sent her to jail. Ekkk.
maybe i watch too many court shows, but...
couldn't you locate him through his police/firefighters' union and take him to small claims court. if it was truly a loan and not a gift, you have a case and if it is under a certain amount of money depending on your state, you do not need a lawyer. do not give up; he could lose his job over fraud!
Small claims court.
Call your local legal aid. They should be able to tell you if you have a case. I think you might be able to take her to small claims court. She is not holding up her end of the bargain.
No! Not if you are not their parent! (sm)
I think that it is better for the parents to tell the children from the very beginning that they were "chosen" and tell them how much they were wanted and how much they are loved. Since they didn't do that, it certainly is no one else's place to do so! If someone slips and the kids go and ask the parents, that's one thing, but for someone else to sit them down and tell them behind the parents' back would be really, really traumatic for them and very wrong!! Please don't do it!!
i am not even a parent, but
i have been blown away by the violent video games, trashy clothes and rude behavior of children and the parents who allow this.  kudos to you!  what you are doing is wonderful.  keep it up. 
I am a parent and it seems to me...
that if there are no consequences for her actions, she will more likely do whatever she wants in the future, not think about it and do the right thing. In the real world, she will have to do what superiors tell her to do, or there will be consequences. I think that it is a parent's responsibility to prepare children for that. Of course, I assume that this is an active parent who already speaks to her child and knows what is going on. I believe in obtrusive parenting.
And it should be...why should one parent
bear the brunt of all expenses. It is not too much to ask for the other parent to chip in.
Did you ever think maybe NEITHER parent

Nobody is guaranteed that their parent HAS to pay for their college.  It is an option, not a requirement by law.  However, if the child got a job and is putting themselves through school, and NEITHER parent is contributing, in Indiana, even if the child is away at school but uses the custodial parent's address as the place they go when school is on break, non-custodial is still forced to pay child support to custodial.


IMO custodial parent should lose that title AND child support when child reaches legal adult age of 18.  Then if child support MUST be continued by law merely because child is a student, it should be paid directly to the 18+ year old adult!!!!


small claims court - sue them both for the balance - sm
But.... talk to your niece about it and let her know that in order to sue her ex roomie for the money, you also have to sue her.

Let it be a life lesson and tell her it's not like you hold anything against her but you have bills too and can't support hers.


Small claims court, am sure, would work
exactly like it did today. I got a default judgement and then I have to go to find the money owed me. Had a case in small claims years ago and about the first thing told to the clients was just because you won a judgement, you had to be the 1 to collect. I might call tomorrow and ask a few questions. Thanks
If there are then go back to court. This is a dead beat mom,
dfs
The court system is a rotational door
There was enough evidence. Even the mother who got the children back had her own father testifying she did drugs, lousy mother, on and on. I am so glad I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore. This is where the welfare $$$ went, to a person who did not have enough get up and go to see the kids off to school in the morning. What a waste but lawdy, lawdy, make sure these mothers get those kids back. Glad I am not involved in the court system anymore.
let school deal with it...You've got a bad court
After your experience with this court (which is the same one you'll be in for anything unless dad moves out of jurisdiction), I would just let the school handle it. Depending on the state, if he's kept out of school for so many days, the school should file truency action against him. As far as custody goes, you've probably got a losing battle in that court even if your son says he wants to live with you unless the ex agrees to let him move. Before going in for custody, be sure you've researched PAS (parental alienation syndrome) etc (Leadershipcouncil.org is a good site) and how it's used to discredit mothers in courts. Google the owner of kourts for kids and follow that case (titleman v titleman) which was just scheduled for conference with the US Supreme Court with 2 amicus briefs. Hers is not an unusual case. Google the judge in Wilson Co, TN recently reprimanded for refusing to follow court of appeals mandate to reverse her ruling which put a kid in sole custody of father who DCS and other pros said sexually abused him. Can give you the judge's name and other info if you e-mail me, but moderator won't allow real names on the board. Like I said before...be sure your ducks are in a row before going to court.
I'm more annoyed that the court keeps giving her one more chance.
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I can't believe Harvey Levin (from People's Court). I no sm
longer have any respect for him. He's the websites founder and host of TMZ. I thought he was smart.
Your doctor says this, but you are the parent
and you are going on the theory that she will not become sexually active nor show up with sexually transmitted diseases up to the age of 17. That is your responsibility, not the physicians to choose or not. There are a lot of girls sexually active way before 17 What makes you think your daughter is different?
I think depends a lot on the parent.
My mom does nothing but preach about how horrible girls are and how she wishes that she had only boys. (I am her only daughter, so imagine how that makes me feel.) Let's compare my teen years with my brother's. Me: Straight A student, preferred books to running with friends, worked from age 14, saved my money, bought my own clothes, received scholarships and paid my way through college. Brother: Drugs, parties, bad grades, skipped school, finally quit and joined army and cursed mom out as he left home. Beyond the teen years, I've been married 23 years to a wonderful man, have three great kids (boys). Brother has three ex-wives and who knows how many children. Oh! And the cherry on this sundae... when I was 16, my brother tried to kill me. Beat me nearly half to death, choked me and police came to take him away. Still, in mom's eyes, he can do no wrong and girls are all evil.
OK. Just a little vent. We all need one now and then.
As a parent of an adopted
child, I would definitely say the answer is 'no" and it is for this very reason that my husband and I have from the beginning talked to our son about the fact that he is  special because he is adopted - we wanted to be the ones to tell him the truth rather than him hear it from someone else.  This is definitely something that the parents should do and should do so when they feel comfortable talking about it with their children...My son is 6 and he knows he is adopted.  He understands that he came from someone elses belly (he's my heart baby as we have told him.  We answer his questions when he asks them and tell him just want he asked for - divulging nothing else to confuse him - take for instance at 4 is when he noticed my SIL's pregnant belly and knew the baby was there - he at that point put 2-n-2 together and realized something was up - which prompted us to talk about him being from someone else's belly.  Then a few months ago he asked about this other person - why she didn't keep him, what was her name....(yes we were very surprised as our social worker said little boys are usually much older before they really inquire!)...but we answered his questions reinforcing the positives of being adopted because he had brought us so much happiness and that this other woman did love him enough to know she couldn't raise him and loved him enough to give him to us -making us a family! Sorry for rambling....adoption issues usually get me on a soap box sometimes!! Either way the answer to your question is definitely not your place to tell - leave it up to the parents.
Need some advice whether you are a parent or not

Sorry that this is a bit long....One of the doctors I work for is also my step-uncle.  He is my step-mother's (been married to my dad for 29 years) brother.  He is an ENT doctor and goes to Africa a couple of times a year to do cleft lip and palate surgeries.  Each trip is 2 weeks long and has been put together by my uncle and a couple of other christian doctors to also bring the message of christ to the patients and their families.  Well, my uncle just called me to tell me they are working on the trip for July of next year and would like to add my son to the team.  He will be 17 by then and getting ready to start his senior year in high school.  I have often talked about my son on this board and always said he was very responsible for his age.  My son, my DH and my uncle have discussed this in the past and my son really wants to do this.  He is defintely planning on going into medicine and is a strong christian.  I know this is a chance of a lifetime but I can't help but worry if letting him go is the right thing to do.  Normally if anyone under 18 goes they have to have a parent with them but my uncle will be his legal guardian for the trip since they can only take a limited number of people. 


Here is one of the reasons I am having such a hard time with the decision.  My son was at VA Tech on a high school field trip the day of the shootings and this is where he plans on attending college.  Since then I have kept a bit of a tighter grip on him.  I know he would be devestated if we said no (actucally my DH is all for the trip).  Has anyone had any experience similar to this or any opinions on my situation?  Thanks.