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These people just lost their son and they already

Posted By: daiseymae on 2009-01-05
In Reply to: There are a lot of questions here, - sm

have to start answering to the press. Sure, discuss it with the police, but let this people try to catch their breath without them having to prove anything to total strangers. Look at all the speculation already, was being monitored, wasn't being monitored, (is it a law that he had to be?), John is gay, mariage is a sham. You know that if there was any foul play or not someone is saying in their ear, don't say anything. Give this family the respect they deserve. Just imagine, heaven forbid, that you lost and child and had to do it in the public eye.


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Have people lost their frigging minds?
Just heard about the astronaut who supposedly accosted a love rival of hers after the astronaut put on a diaper so she would not have to stop on her journey, driving over 1000 miles from Texas to Orlando, catching up with the rival at her job, pepper spraying her and in rival's car when stopped she had rope, knives and the like. With all her background, her experience, her $$$$ pay, why does not 1 stop and wonder, hmmm there are more police than me, I probably would be caught doing something like this. I just cannot image throwing my life away, never.
Good grief, lost of people get married and don't have children nm
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you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people

This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE!   I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.


it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.

I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case.  Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior.  Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!!  Thank you for the kind comments.  To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge.  You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.


I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
People who go around calling other people "low class"
have their own issues in life. Ignore them. Nothing like a misplaced superiority complex to make a person feel good about themselves. Like they've never done anything gauche or made a faux pas. It must be nice for them to be so perfect and live in a glass house.

For that matter, you probably saved your piggy's life by popping that mondo zit! It could have gotten infected or something.... (yes, I have a zit popping fixation myself, but you were really descriptive on that pig zit. gag LOL)

Man, you would have appreciated the time one of my relative's popped a HUGE cyst on her face. I was standing right next to her at the time and leaned back because I knew it was going to blow. It did! Big time! All over the wall, mirror and light fixture. I'm still disgusted by the thought of it 10 years later. LOL In a revering kind of way...
If I lost say 60-80 lbs
I would be so full of attitude even my hubby probably not able to get to first base with me! Nah, just kidding. I also need to lose that much, just gonna have to do it it seems.
lost

Note - next week is 2 hours.  Starting at 9.


Yes - they said the woman who parachuted was with an expedition that Penny sent.


Locke really appears to be dead.


lost - and am I!
I don't really know how I feel about the fast forward - but of course there is something wrong there because he said "call my father" and we know his father was dead before he hit the island.  Why didn't Charlie hold his breath and swim up through the port hole?  Whose funeral did no one want to attend?
we lost one of THE BEST!!! nm
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LOST! (nm)
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lost ours . . .
Four years ago both of them at the same time. We still have their son . . it was just heart retching. My husband and I actually cried harder than the kids . . . isn't that crazy???? We were devastated.
I did WW for about 2.5 yrs and lost 72 lbs! sm
It works but you need to stick with it. Don't get discouraged on the weeks you do not lose weight; it is also not "a diet" but a lifestyle change. Do try to find some fruit/veg that you enjoy; the fiber definitely helps you feel full and lose. Low sodium V8 is a good 1 pt or 0 pt option to get in 1-2 servings of veg daily. Eat a piece of fruit for your snack. I found that I really began enjoying fruit-veg after a while. Get active, drink water and give it a chance - WW does work well and nothing is off limits.

Gee, I think I should rejoin! Good luck.
I had lost about 30%. in my IRA. My
broker put my money into some type of annuity where I am guaranteed not to LOSE any more money for the next year. If on my anniversary date I am below my original balance, I retain that balance. If I have acutally made a little, I do get that and then am guaranteed that amount until my next anniversary date where the same scenario occurs. It is in lower-making funds, but at least I can't lose any more.
Lost coat
If it were me, I would be angry as heck at my 8 yo for not being responsible for her things. Forgot that someone might have taken it, the child was irresponisble. At 8, she should know better than to leave her things behind. Too bad, so sad, no coat, maybe she'll remember her things next time when she has no coat because she's cold. Learning life lessons are tough and 8 is really old enough to take responsibility.

Just another perspective.
lost coat

Maybe she actually left it at school or someplace other than dance, but is certain in her mind that she last had it at dance.  You could be looking in the wrong place.  I don't ever trust my memory on things like this because when life is really hectic (whose life with kids is not hectic?), sometimes events run together in my mind.  Maybe her coat is at school in the lost and found or in the back of the van under a seat, etc.  Just a thought. 


Lost Coat
You bet!! Unless shehad the money to purchase another one. She left it, so it got stolen. If it was grabbed off her back and stolen, that would be another story.

Kids can be kids, but they have to learn responsibility some time. It's the parents that don't teach it that are having issues with their kids. Mine learned early and often that their actions have repercussions, good and bad ones. And they learn from them.

For example, 15 yo daughter is a competitive dancer. When she was probably 10 or so, she goes to a competition and forgets to pack a tutu that she needs for one of her numbers. Do I got back and get it? Nope. Her responsibility and she had to expain to the others in her group that it was at home. Did she ever forget her tutu again? Nope. It usually only takes one time.

We need to be parents, not friends and teach them to live and survive in the world. It is never too young to learn. My 4 yo knows that if she walks out the door without her lunchbox for school that she doesn't have lunch. How many times did this happen? Exactly once. Kids are smarter than you think they are.
She was either drunk or lost a bet - sm
what a total freak, what woman would shave her head unless she absolutely had too (like a bad attack of lice, which I highly doubt was her problem). It will take quite a few years to grow back long again, oh well, guess that is her problem (s).
I lost 123 pounds (sm)
I am down to 112 pounds. All my skin, including my face skin, bounced back really well. I do have a little loose skin on my thighs but not so much that I can't wear shorts. My belly looks like I've been pregnant with big kids, and with my largest being 10 pounds, I earned my loose belly skin.

It might have made a difference that I did it "au naturale" without the surgery, so I am still absorbing my nutrients properly.
I know your pain..I lost my 16 y/o
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I am so sorry to hear you lost your
precious kitty. That's a long time to form an attachment. I feel bad for your daughter. I'm sure it was a shock for her - you're never ready for that. You are going to cry for a few days and then one day you the good memories will start and you'll realize you always have those - lots of those in 16 years.

You might make a collage of pictures for your office wall.


LOST fan here, see inside.
If they were not dead before, they probably will be now, unless they find some way of digging out. Orrr, maybe the conversation the guy had with John, where things don't stay buried if they're too close to shore, hmm. However, what was the point of this episode? It centered around 2 people that we really haven't seen before, then they seemingly get killed off in the same episode. The only thing related to the series was when Raphael (I think his name was), was hiding in the bathroom when Ben and Juliette were in the Pearl bunker watching Jack on the monitor and making some plans about him. Other than that, I totally did not get the purpose of the episode.
Funny...but I'm not lost...
I'm just coming unscrewed in the process.

My ESL would say LOOOsing it or more like lucing it!

I just need a real vacation WITH PAY!
Did you see LOST yet? (Not too spoilerish)
All I can say is - WHOA!

Didn't quite see that ending coming.

Very, very weird and interesting episode.
never miss a LOST!
We are huge Lost fans at my house! We didn't think the show shed any new light on things though. Just old stuff we already knew. They said John Locke has been trying to sabotage their chance of being rescued from the beginning, but we didn't really see anything until midway through like when he blew up Mikhail's station and then the submarine. Did we miss something else? Anyway, Locke is being so selfish now. Even if everyone else got rescued he could stay on the island by himself, so why is he trying to prevent everyone else's rescue? And we still want to know why Libby was in the institution!
Lost Addict
I'm thinking "call my father" is either a drug haze that Jack was in, OR he came back to life on the island. He did see his father standing on the beach not long after the plane crashed in season #1. At the time, I thought it was a hallucination. Maybe not? It seems that the island has the power to bring people back to life at times. The one-eyed guy came back -- or was he not really dead?
Whose funeral was it? Hmmm. Ben's? It was someone that Kate and Jack knew. Sawyer's? Someone that we haven't met on the island yet? How 'bout Jacob?
Ooooo! It's such a long time to wait, and so many possible answers to too many questions!
I lost my Tasha last May
I lost Tasha last May, she made the decision I did not she was 16 1/2 years old.  But I did take her body in to be creamated and am going to spread her ashes in the park where she loved to run and chase the squirrls when I can bear to do it.  But my sister has had three dogs put down, the vet come to her house and she is on acerage but they bury them in their back field.   In their other homes they also buried several pets.  I worked for a vet and I know how some of them dispose of the animals and I would never do that and that is why I decided to have Tasha cremated.   It cost me but was worth it. I was going to bury her out at my sisters but decided to keep her here where she loved living.   But you can have her put to sleep and take the body home with you and they don't ask what you are going to do, at least here in Oregon.   But be sure you dig a large enough hole and down rather deep so some other animal does not come and dig it up.  Even in the city, raccoons will dig it up sometimes.   Sorry, about Foxie.  I kept Tasha comfortable on arthritis medication but the Glucosamine helped the most from Petco and kept her quite comfortable for the last year.  Ultram kept her free of most of the pain during the last 6 weeks and I really don't think that she suffered.  But she decided it was the end and just went to sleep and up to that day she was walking a mile a day or so with me around the moorage.  She was eating well.   It is hard and I have not yet decided to get another dog yet but may soon.    Take care.   Patti
Somehow I lost 10 pounds.
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I lost my mother sm
Two and a half years ago. She was 59. I still have my father and a wonderful step-mother but not a day goes by that I don't miss my mom. So many people helped my by telling me what a good daughter I was and that my mother passed away knowing how much I loved her. She and I talked every day and most days it was 2 or 3 times. I have a 16 and 14yr old and everytime something wonderful happens in their life I think "Oh how proud my mom would be". You are always going to get meaningless platitudes but just keep in mind that your parents did a wonderful job raising you and obviously knew how devoted you were to them. Hugs to you!
My SIL had this and lost over 150 pounds. She...
really did not have any major problems after the surgery. However, it has been almost 2 years and in the past few months she has regained 35 pounds. If someone is eating to deal with emotional problems or just life in general, having the surgery does not make the emotional problems go away. They need to find another way to deal with them before the surgery in order for the surgery to work effectively. Just my opinion from watching my SIL. The docs need to deal more with WHY the patient is eating the way they do and work on changing eating habits before they have the surgery.
so, how much weight have you lost? nm
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You lost him years ago - help where you can when you wish
to but don't make them your project - it will drain the life from you.  This is the life he evidently wants so life yours and wish him happiness.  You need to let go - it is difficult I know - but you can do it.
Another poem for all of you that have lost someone!
These poems are meant to be personally yours....

I’M FREE

Don’t grieve for me, for now I’m free
I’m following the path God laid for me,
I took His hand when I heard Him call
I turned my back and left it all.

I could not stay another day
To laugh, to love, to work or play.
Tasks left undone must stay that way.
I found that place at the close of day.

If my parting has left a void,
Then fill it with remembered joy.
A friendship shared, a laugh, a kiss.
Ah yes, these things, I too will miss.

Be not burdened with times of sorrow.
I wish you the sunshine of tomorrow.
My life’s been full, I savored much.
Good friends, good times, a loved one’s touch.

Perhaps my time seemed all too brief.
Don’t lengthen it now with undue grief.
Lift up your heart and share with me
God wanted me now, He set me free.
Author Unknown

Wow! You lost half of yourself
I am in awe!
I lost 72 lb doing WW, did meetings first,
then online. Then on my own. Good luck - you can do it. Remember even a 20 minute walk counts as exercise!
I'm sorry you lost a friend sm

Maybe in the midst of my anger, I'm not expressing myself very well.  I'm really sorry you went through what you went through.


My whole point is not about money, even though it may seem that way.  I think there should be some sort of penalty when a dog bites someone, especially an 8-year-old child. 


In our case, there has been absolutely no penalty, and the dog has been out without a leash since the attack.  The owners even tried to blame our daughter for the bite.  They said the dog thought she had some food in her hand or that she was standing next to the dog's food which was not the case.  She was standing in front of their house.  The dog tried biting my daughter's ankles, and she put her hand in the way. 


They're not accepting responsibility for this attack, and if the only way for them to be penalized is by suing them, I will do that.  I will advise our attorney that we will be willing to settle with them because we don't want this to end up in court, and I'm sure the owners don't either.  I have never sued anyone and never expected I would ever sue anyone. 


While I have sympathy in your case, I don't have sympathy for the owners in our case.  If we did nothing, this could happen again to someone else's child, and I don't want to see that happen. 


 


 


that is so right on. My mom lost the ability to.....sm
pay her bills, write a check, etc., but under her bed were at least 3 dozen rolls of toilet paper HIDDEN from who knows and also another case of paper towels.  These TP and paper towels become extremely important and nobody has explained it to me yet but.... oh well, she is still a delight, albeit a mindless one.  LOL
have you lost your mind???
feel good to abort? what is wrong with you?!?!?
Have you lost all your senses?
I see where your anger is coming from in the fact that your sister (reading from above) has apparently taken over some money your mother has and you think some belongs to you. One child is dead- do you understand - she is in a cementary. The other boy was in a jail in approximately 1986. I do not know where in the heck he was or is. They did not show up for their grandfather's funeral in 2004. Their passports?? You must know something I didn't. Why, why do you think I want to join up now with a family who has ignored me for well over 40 years? Are you ok?
The Tudors and Lost.
x
Lost in Translation n/m
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I probably would've lost my head...
because I'm the jealous type. I HATE IT with a passion!

You did the right thing by getting feedback from others before you reacted emotionally and I admire you that.

It's much better to stay calm and not let DH know that deep inside you're going berserk. How do you keep the poker face that's much needed in these types of situations?

I'm glad I saw your post and the responses from others to see how they would handle such a situation. I don't like thinking/running my life with my emotions, which always gets me in so much trouble and makes the situation at hand much worse for me and the person on the receiving end of my emotional outbursts, who is usually innocent.

Thanks for posting!
i lost my grandmother too in almost say way as you are describing sm
this was several years ago. she was 82 and all of a sudden developed pneumonia, which turned into sepsis. i had typed enough reports to know what sepsis meant and her hope was slowly going downhill. she too took a major turn for the worse after about a week in the ICU and nurses talking about her going home in a few days. she was also DNR status. they did, however, give her O2 by mask although i still don't believe it was enough because she was alert and told us she couldn't breathe. they also gave her morphine, which i disagreed with given my research because i read morphine makes lungs fill more with fluid rather than clear the fluid out. when questioning the doc about this, he threw her chart on the floor and said if you disagree with me, find yourself another doctor and walked out! it was horrible! i am not positive, but i do think they gave her antibiotics. we didn't get the chance to bring her home or to hospice though. she did have an IV so maybe there are other guidelines in her DNR/DNI status and her wishes that stated she didn't want them. she remember, she will be in peace soon and be thankful for the times you had with her. although my grandmother was in very good health until her pneumonia took her away from us, i'd rather seen her go like she did than to have a long, drawn out battle with health issues and pain. prayers to you and your family during this trying time for you.
So sorry for you. I lost mine little guy last week...

because of the same thing. Had gotten some cat food for one of my picky cats, who did not eat it, but little George did, he would eat anything! Will be thinking of you and your little furkid.


Any other LOST fans? spoiler
DH and I enjoy Lost, and record it with DVR so we won't miss it. Did anybody see tonight's show? They sure misled us with the promo. Do you think both the man & woman just mostly dead? Because that man could have been bitten thousands of times, right? And he should have recovered sooner ...
Show ... LOST (spoiler)
So last week's characters are more than mostly dead by now I suppose. I really thought at least the girl might dig her way out, but I guess she was still too stiff.

This week was freaky. Wonder how Locke is going to like his new life? Do you really think Jack was unconscious that long, or was he afraid he wouldn't be trusted if he wasn't treated to the same gassing that the others got? I guess Juliet regreted leaving the handcuffs on when she got her shoulder knocked out of joint! I wonder why the smoke monster didn't go over the top of the microwave (or whatever) fence? Could Juliet have really not known about the monster? And why did it shine a light on her like it was taking her picture? Do you think Ben controls the smoke monster and was spying on Juliet?

I thought it was good, but as usual, more questions than answers.
But if she collects for 20+ years -- could lost a lot

If she lives to age 80 she would lose over $30K doing it that way and what is two more years of working anyway.  Like the poster below, I am working for 8 more years collecting my full amount have IC's do more of my work and I will do what I need to make a decent living and have fun. 


Collecting 22 years at 790 = 208,560


Collecting 20 years at 1000 = 240,00 plus more if she waits to 65/66. 


It will take 7 years to recoup the 19K that she received for the 2 years.  To each their own but you have to look at all sides.


Patti


Anybody else catch the little LOST show
that was on last night? It was the writers or producers or something discussing the show. They must read the message boards, like the ABC one and possibly the AOL one, and see all the fan theories. I only saw it because we have DVR set up, and it recorded. I'm going to watch it again with DH.

I suppose there will be a recap of it on the LOST website if you missed it.
Let me tell you what is up with not wanting to see that long lost
A lot of times people feel maybe someone will take their place. I am so thankful I had a stepmom that I truly loved and got along with. I would think most of the time just the opposite. Having said that, the spouse comes FIRST regardless of a long lost child wanting to come into a persons life that they may not be welcomed in the first place. If I had any inkling that someone did not want to see/know me, I would NEVER think another thought about them.
I lost mine at 11 weeks also
after trying to get pregnant for 17 years. I was the same way with the due date, as well as the date that I lost them (twins). It was really strange because on the due date (that I didn't even realize at the time) at work I was so emotional and just felt like crying over every little thing, then I realized what day it was. I don't really know what to tell you because what got me out of my depression was we adopted a 1 and 2 year old a little over a year later, but everyone is different.
I'm sorry for your loss. I lost my mom unexpectedly also....
Are there are any small parks or buildings or senior centers in your area, or maybe one of the hospitals, where you can purchase a brick or stone with your mom's name on it and it is part of a walkway or something that is a memorial? We have a senior center where you can buy a brick and have your loved one's name, etc. engraved and it's made part of a pathway and very pretty. You're not crazy; everyone deals with grief in different ways and you need to do what works for you.