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They unknowingly turned onto a logging road.

Posted By: sm on 2006-12-06
In Reply to: I am so depressed about them finding James Kim dead. I am having a really sm - MQer

Logging roads are not owned and/or maintained by the state. I believe it's the US Forest Service whose in charge of them. In any case, they are not public roads and are only supposed to be used by logging companies (popular with hunters also though). Unfortunately, the Kims did not know this when reading their map. They thought it was a normal road/highway.

Such a sad ending.


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Thanks - we had to CTRL-ALT-DEL before logging in - (sm)
which gives you a login screen, and I could log into my old acct. I took it to a friend who is a computer engineer - he figured out that way to bypass the problem but we have no idea why it happened!
When I turned 30, that was my roughest, until I turned 40, which was my roughest until I turned 50 .
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think about down the road
My sister is in a very similar situation. Her husband won't ever go out socially or even to family functions or kids' extracuricular activities. Think about how this will be down the road after you have kids. You are lucky because you aren't married yet, don't have kids, and are thinking rationally about this. If this is really how you want the rest of your life to be, then so be it, but if you can't imagine still doing this in 20 years then maybe it's not worth it. My sister has told me many times if she could have looked into the future and realized what he was going to be like (they only dated for a few months before they got married and he faked being sociable to make her like him) she would have never married him. Now they have 4 kids and she feels stuck in an unhappy life but won't make a change because of the kids. She knows that even though they love each other she would be happier with someone who was more like herself and really her husband would be more happy with someone more like himself, too.
You still don't know which road to take with that question,
do you? I don't think they are standing in front of road, with the truthful man standing in front of the correct road or anything like that.
road rage sm
I can agree NCMT, same thing happened to us on New Years Eve one time, screamed my head off, not a cop around and went through two states. I will never forget it. I don't speak of it often as I didn't think anyone would believe me! No cell phones then, that's why they are useful, although I am not sure how fast they would come, but it sure makes you feel better. Thanks for sharing.
Please don't take my post down that road
I did not write that post for people to start gay bashing, any bashing, or bible thumping. I was talking about basic rights that have been taken away from me, because of the rights some others think they need. And don't bash me, I believe in God and I will answer to Him for me, and me alone. I will not answer to Him for everyone else, they can do that on their own.
yep - your tune shall change down the road..LOL

Look at the bigger picture down the road.....
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I'm going down same road - please answer questions for me-sm
I have no other option but to get this done. I have been putting this off for awhile now, terrified of dentists.

1. Do you feel better healthwise since you got the dentures? Sometimes, I feel I will just generally feel better and maybe have more energy if I get this done.

2. Did they pull all top ones at once or in a few visits? Seems like such a traumatic thing to me to have done, maybe it's not so bad though?

3. What kind of anesthetic did you have, just novocaine or nitrous oxide or completely out?

3. Do you feel better about how they look and happy about having it done, now that it's over?

Thanks so much.
Hey, you're "right up the road" from me!

I'm just a tad southwest of Bangor, maybe 3 exits south off 95.  I love Acadia but not during tourist season!  I think Orono is nice--college townish if you're into that scene.  I feel old and crusty when I go there, so I don't.  I just spent the day in Bangor because we've been without power for 24 hours and just got it back on mere minutes ago.  Crazy T-storms here yesterday! 


Welcome to Maine and sorry your vacation is turning out to be so crappy.  Mine always do to, which I why I haven't taken one in...oh....5 years now! 


   


  


Two words from me....ROAD TRIP!!!! Yea!! nm
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Religious conviction is a narrow road for some.
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Then, they can widen the road by allowing God to come into their lives!
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Me, again another thing 1 night riding down the road
going very fast saw these huge eyes - a cow in the middle of the road, good thing I did not hit her.
Me too - more of a road block really, flat and wide. :) Also known as ,
Apple A$$ :)

An unfortunate trait inherited from my mother's side of the family.
I love the smell of a gravel road...sm
I think foreigners/men with accents are sexy....

I was valedictorian and voted most likely to succeed...now I'm a SAHM who does transcription to supplement our income. I wouldn't trade a single moment with my kids for the most successful position in the world...


My favorite guilty pleasure is watching stupid movies with hot guys (like Spring Break Shark Attack).
yes, the dogs are left outside to run around, right next to a very busy road sm

yesterday i took my son to ball practice to see if he wanted to join.  the friend i talked about in this post, his mom was there.  (i knew the boy played ball, that's why my son wanted to play ball too).  so i told my son that we'd go watch and see if that's what he wants to do.  so i'm sitting there talking with the mom and i told her that i was a little scared of my son playing football because of getting hurt, etc.  that he had already had two broken bones.  she said that her husband (the dad that kicked the dog), has had several broken bones, from wrecks and she said when he was younger, he used to fight (like street fighting type stuff, not boxing).  but she said that he doesn't do that any more, we grow up as we get older.  i thought to myself, i guess he just beats up dogs now.  i'm going to check into what rescue groups are around here.  it's very obvious these dogs don't go to the vet for checkups.  even if there is no child abuse going on, the kids are going to think it's ok to hurt animals.


thanks for your opinions


Or just freeze to use in soup or sloppy joes down the road. nm
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...sinks later on down the road after it drives and the grooves reappear. nm
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Reading Beach Road by James Patterson
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Beach/road trash pickup, help neighbors
with yard work, or help little old ladies do things around the house. Not sure what things you've tried that require them to be 14, but there's always animal shelters and teaching little kids to read. I'm not sure if you need approval, but they could help collect canned goods or toys for the Salvation Army or other charities.
I feel your pain, been down that road many times over the years - sm
I am so sorry for what you are going through. You need to take her to the vet and let her go. That way she will not be suffering any longer and you will know you eased her pain. It sounds like it is time. Again, I have been through this many times over the years with my cats and it is hard each and every time. I will be wishing you all the best.
...on a search. Or look for real time status, road conditions, etc. for
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Very dusty, we live on a private dirt /gravel road - sm
have a dirt/gravel driveway )very short). Dust just seems to seep through somehow. House was built in 1989. I hate to clean so that does not help, and lots of stuff/clutter here for it to accumulate on. Need to just empty the house and bring back in only a few things and sell the rest. Would make such a difference.
Last time I was in SF, there was NAKED biking group parading down the road. Now THAT was educational
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Have you turned it on?
Just kidding....
You all have turned me on to
the French press. Gosh, don’t get out enough and have not heard of this. I love strong coffee, want to sniff up the coffee houses whenever I stop to get some, mine sure does not smell like theirs. I hope I have the same luck as you have, can hardly wait.
Yours could have turned out that way
but I have now a 40+ and a 30+ each and both are doing extremely well, always respectful, kind, considerate. Maybe just a swat (as you call it) was just that, like a little pat so I can understand the way you are thinking.
Not everyone turned out okay
some had brain damage from lead poisoning, some died from ATV accidents, some drown in bathtubs, lakes, rivers, pools. We simply got lucky and ran our guardian angels ragged. Obviously the rules/laws were made because other children weren't so lucky... She shouldn't have asked. She simply shouldn't have even conceived of the idea. A 9-month-old does not belong on an ATV.
My MIL was the same way, until she turned 70. sm
A man, contracting work on her condo, was interested in her and would not give up until she went out with him. She spent the best 5 years of her life with this man, until he passed away.

When the right man comes along, you will know, and it could happen at any time.
LOL!! Yep - I've turned it on :-)

Yep, me too. Turned it on today just to see...
her "announcement" and I had to quickly change the channel again. She's the worst. I will be happy to give it a try again once she is OFF
I have turned those sheets every which way
but loose, have about 3 sets and nothing has been working. I am making notes of all these answers and check the mattress out. It is huge and thick so have to get the measuring tape out.
Turned 40 today
You wanted some positives....if you are healthy, be thankful, a lot of people are not....I will be 65 this year, people say I look 40.....I'm healthy, physically active, triathalons & all that that entails to stay fit.....very fortunate--kids grown & gone.  Worked hard raising kids & now it is paying off.....don't have to raise grandkids.  Retired from one career & started another.....Be happy!  You know more now at 40 than you did at 20.  Work smarter, not harder!
I've had several already and I just turned 40

I had a few problems going on, hence the need for so many at my age, but it all turned out okay.


Anyway,  I have small boobage, so there was quite a bit of adjusting involved with trying to get my under-endowed self on the plates.  Not the most comfortable thing to do, but as it is over so fast and could possible save my life, it's 100% worth it. 


What we women go through.  When my husband had his first prostate exam, he came home whining about how embarrassing it was.  I then gave him a whole litany of what embarrassing really was as far as PAPs etc.  What a baby.


Now, go get those mammies grammed!


I turned 47 in November.... thanks!
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My DH just turned 70 - Thinks he is 40 ##
I am 69
Hush don't go imagining something!!
Yes! I turned the volume way down . .
maybe because it's a singing contest and I feel like a judge. If she was a contestant, she'd get the boot.
Glad your day turned out well...and that was
great you huddled. After dad talked to them on the phone, and they came back inside they did their chores, made their own lunches, while I tried to get that headache to go away. DH just took them with their allowances from last week to Walmart probably to remind them the positive points of being cooperative. Yep, I love them too and don't want to think about the next 15 years when they leave. I just think for me and maybe some of us it is difficult working at home all day and doing double, triple duty. I have been worried about my MT pay and wrote my DH a note today I am indeed going to take some time off from MTing because I feel burnt to a crisp. He said something about a month in a house at the beach (with kids, and with him just popping in), but I know I won't be able to take much time at all off from work. Our production job is so tough, man, some days are difficult for mom, dad and kids. But it cheers me to hear your day got better. Mine is too because I rested and the kids are out at Walmart which they love. About my taking time off from MTing, we'll see how long that lasts LOL. Dream, dream, dream.
Googling turned up:
Small amounts of ammonia are normally in the bloodstream. Many serious illnesses, including liver damage, can cause blood ammonia levels to rise. High levels of ammonia can cause patients to become confused and die, if left untreated.
I have been called only once since I turned 18....
and I am 55 now. I was actually looking forward to it too. I made it as far as jury selection. They needed 13, and I was #14. Oh well..at least I got to see how the system worked. And even if I had been seated, there was no guarantee that the case would have gone to trial anyway.
Its a no..turned down...not a chance

I had my meeting yesterday afternoon with my lawyer. Although I am clearly disabled I fall threw the disability loop holes. There are 2 types you can sign up for. The first you must have worked 10 years consecutively. I worked when I was first married and then when we had kids I stayed home with them until they started school and then went back to work as a substitute teacher. I had worked 9 years consecutively and had a stroke so I am disqualified there.


The 2nd one you have to have not worked or be low income. Low income meaning a little over $900.00 a month for dh and I. Kiddos don't qualify as dependants since they are over 18 or the income level would be higher. We are low income but not that low for the 2 of us. The only thing you can own is your home and one vehicle. We own our home and 3...the old truck we are trying to sale that might bring $500.00., the truck dh bought for $1000.00 and the car he inherited from his sis. Dh also inherited some land and some money from his sis. AND THEN there is the fact that dh and his sis had to put their dad's money in their names so they can pay for his care, power of attorney and all that, and although the money goes for ONLY his care and we use none of it it goes against my case.


So although I am disabled, in pain every single day of my life, I don't qualify for disability. Our income doesn't qualify us for Medicaid. Our income doesn't afford us insurance IF we could find someone that would cover me with all my health issues. I'm tired, defeated, exhausted, cried until I can't cry. I don't know how many knocks I can take.


I don't begrudge anyone health care...but how is it fair that I can't get it and its handed over to those that have never paid a dime in taxes? How is it fair that a convicted child molester will get his disability? (yes I know someone that is and will get his). I just don't get it. There needs to be decent affordable healthcare in this country for EVERY citizen. I'm not talking Socialized medicine. I'm talking decent affordable healthcare.


It should not cost $4000.00 for an ER visit and $500.00 for the doctor. Yes again that happened to me last summer. I would never have gone if I had not been doubled over in severe pain and my regular doctor sent me there. I left the ER with a huge bill, a prescription I could not afford to fill, and a huge bill I had to finish paying and I'm still paying. They made me pay $250.00 before I left the hospital. Another time when I fell and messed up my ankle my doctor sent me over there for an xray. My ankle was 3 or 4 times its size and they still made me pay for the xray before they would even do it. Something needs to be done with this crazy ridiculous business


My gas was turned off last week.
I hear your pain though not quite as bad as I used my money for bills to pay my mtg and the recent ruling by FEMA that I now live in a flood zone (100 year flood) and by 6/15, I had to fork over 300.00 or they'd apply their own at the tune of 2 grand.

I made 60 grand for 3 years in a row. During my last 2 months at my beloved job, I made 1 grand a month. Without notice, my account left and I was basically kicked to the curb.

Savings account is what would have saved me. After all these years doing this, I am back at ground zero. It is very stressful in this economy where compassion fatigue is quite apparent from the posts below.

United we stand, divided we fall, I suppose.


I turned the show on just because of the posts
and disappointed as I could be, did not watch that much, thought the guy a creep and his wife shoulda left years ago. I turned the channel.
Eeeekkk.... I've turned into my mom....sm

Yesterday my teenage daughter asked if she could go bowling with some friends after school today.  Her room was a horrible mess, which isn't normal for her.  I turned into my mom and said "You're going no where until that room is cleaned up."


   EEEEKKK!!!! 


 


I had panel painted, turned out really
nice and has been that way for 3 years- never filled in any cracks.
I turned out really well, thanks to the village that raised me.
And, I had a really wonderful dad. I guess the best thing for you to do is to make your daughter's friend feel welcome in your home. My best friends growing up had great families, and I loved going to their houses for sleepovers, dinners, and just hanging out. Their examples gave me good models for how to care for my family and home when I became a wife and mother. As I said, this was back in the 1960s, and no one talked about such things in those days. So no one ever took me aside and talked to me about what was going on at home. I suppose, had it been going on in this day and age, the schools and authorities would have been contacted and I'd have had counseling, and whatever else is done these days. I'm not saying those are bad things, just that the people in my small town simply went with their intuition. They knew I didn't have a stable home life, so they offered it to me in their own homes. I remember all the mothers of my friends very fondly, to this day. All of them have since passed away. They were wonderful women. One in particular, kept in touch with me for years after I grew up and moved away, and even hand-knit Christmas stockings for my family, which I treasure to this day.
Yeah my DD just turned 9 and has been wearing 5s - sm
now for a few months. I wear a 7 and can actually squeeze into her a a pair of her open-ended sandels. She has always been in the 95th percentile for height and weight, but is slowing down some, now at about 88%.
Awwww I feel for you...your SIL has turned into

your SIL sounds like the way my mother used to be (deceased many years now) her entire life...like Joan Crawford in Harriet Craig, a movie I just saw the other night on TCM. 


My father used to call my mother "Craig's Wife" when I was growing up and I never understood why until I saw Robert Osborne on TCM explaining all about this movie, Harriet Craig....which was also a remake of another movie in the 1920s or 30s called .....CRAIG'S WIFE!!! 


Just know that you're the better person and I don't even know you, but I know so many women in Florida (and elsewhere too!!) who are like this and it all comes from their own insecurities and their need for control.....


Hope you get to feelin' better real soon!! 


Take into consideration I turned in my own husband
some years ago on exactly the same thing. I do not care if it is my momma, the law is the law. I was on vacation, my husband (at that time) allowed his girlfriend to drive my vehicle, she wrecked it, only was checked out at the hospital, never admitted and tried to charge the insurance I paid for her expenses. Did not turn out that way. I called the insurance company and told them they were having a scam run on them. I am on the up and up and he wasn’t so that is what I did and would do again.
I turned 40 today! Please tell me something positive about it!
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