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This happened once to me. A friend was in the same situation - (sm)

Posted By: SP on 2007-07-11
In Reply to: Money - Should I be mad or not? - Friend or Foe?

always robbing Peter to pay Paul, never had any money on her, always behind on the bills, etc.  She had a big, huge yard sale one summer the money from which was going to get caught up on bills.  I chipped in a TON of really good stuff which I was going to use for my own yard sale to pay my OWN bills.  To make a long story short, she made about $700 on this yard sale and proceeded to buy her husband a bow and arrow (which he has never used) instead of paying the bills.  I was quite upset at the time but chose not to say anything.  About a year later, after more complaining about not being able to pay the bills she had the nerve to ask me to take out a loan for her so she could pay off her husband's $5000 tool bill.  (He worked at some place where the tool truck would come by every week and he'd pick up this and that.  A couple of years later he's got quite the collection AND quite the bill.)  I promptly told her that I would absolutely NOT take out a loan for them.  This was quite a few years ago and they're still living way above their means and haven't YET learned how to manage their money.  They eat out, go on vacations, redecorate the house, buy new cars, etc., etc.  AND to top it all off, they've done the debt consolidation/credit counseling thing TWICE.  Let the counseling service lower their interest rates, paid off the bills, and then racked them right back up again. 


Granted, as I write this my situation isn't EXACTLY the same because I didn't actually have to shell out any money but my point it if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile and learn who they can walk on.  My friend and her DH have walked on everybody BUT me because I saw it coming and nipped it in the bud early. 




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When it happened before

about 5 years ago it was about 3 months after the birth of my first child.  I have an 18 month old and she was born via C section.  I had a pap smear about a month after my 18 month old was born and it was okay.  Just the one in April has come back abnormal.


 


Oh boy! I'm really sorry that happened. SM
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Even though you're having a warm day, they probably are getting ready to fly south.
Hey! Maybe something happened
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Happened to me sm
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what happened
I don't know why info was left out of OP. Many things don't make sense the way it printed. Anyway, I hope you get the basics.
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I am so, so sorry that this happened to you. I really am. sm
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OMG That happened to me too before! sm
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We both laughed hysterically but it was still kind of depressing.... I said, 'See? I HAVE no fortune!!'

Guess you can look at it both ways, no fortune or everything you need ;-)
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Same happened to me....go get a
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Yes, happened to me just now...
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but it happened
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This is what happened to me
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What happened to you....

that made you such a mean and nasty person?  Really, what's your story?  We would probably all like to hear how it is that you were elevated to your high horse.  I'm sure that all of your relationships are above reproach and you get along with everyone perfectly, as evidenced by your interactions with this poster, who was merely venting her frustrations.  Get a life! 


 


Does anyone know what happened to the
wonderful guy on America's Got Talent who sang opera for his first audition and then last week sang There's A Place For Us?   They brought back the acts from last week and announced who was going on to the next round, but he was not there this week and they did not mention him.  I wonder if he dropped out?  He was just wonderful. 
This happened to me
I kept threatening my mom that I would move out if she didn't let me do what I wanted (I was 17). Finally one day my mom marched into my room with a suitcase and started to pack my bags. Really opened up my eyes quick. Sounds like your daughter is using that as a "threat" believing that you will back down and let her do what she wants if she "threatens" you with leaving. My mom's words to me were (as she was packing my bag)... "You want to leave so bad? You think you have it horrible here and I'm such a bad person cos I won't let you run around whereever you want, take my car whenever you want? Here let me help you". When I knew she wouldn't put up with the bull I was giving her I backed down. Mom told me its her house, her rules, you can go out with your friends, but as long as you live in this house you will do follow the rules. She wanted to know where I was because she loved me and wanted to know I was safe. That is what she told me. She said that when I turn 18 I will be of legal age and if I want to move out she will help me find a place that I can support myself on. But until then I had to respect her as much as she respected me. I had a curfue. Midnight on weekends, 11 pm on school nights. As for the drinking thing...its not okay...it is illegal. There are laws and they should be followed. Under age drinking is illegal, robbery is illegal, speeding is illegal, etc, etc. There are many things that are illegal and for good reason. I worked with a lady who told me how responsible and wonderful and mature her son is. At 16 they bought him whatever kind of car he wanted, let him do what he wanted. "He's such a good person and we trust him totally. He tells us he doesn't drink or party or "hang out". He's always at the library or his friends studying. She came in one Monday in tears. That weekend the police had brought him home from a "party" where there were no adults. He was drunk and the police were called in because there was underage drinking.
Happened to me too sm
I had trouble breathing and swallowing and the left side of my thyroid had grown pretty big.  I had the left thyroid taken out.  The surgery was no big deal.  I was not in much pain either.  My left thyroid was about 3 times the size it should have been, but it was not cancer.  Don't worry.
This has happened before and ....sm
it is such a sad sad story. I am a pitbull owner. I will say these dogs are not for everyone. It takes a certain kind of owner to have these dogs and in the wrong hands they are dangerous. I am a dog lover. I love pits BUT there are mistakes people make such as having more than one pit of the same gender. I don't know the circumstances which led to this attack but I can say I do not believe the dogs attacked for no reason. Something can set them off. But a dog that is loved and is a stable well minded dog who loves the owner is not going to attack for no reason. Usually there are circumstances we don't know. The dogs could have got into a fight or simply a spat and he could have intervened and they might have attacked him in the heat of the moment. I would never have more than one at a time unless they were different genders. I will say again not a dog for everyone. Until we know the nature of the attack we can't judge.
It happened to me. (sm)
We had all sorts of vet bills from previous dogs, and then were hit with health bills of our own (both DH and I), and insurance that didn't turn out to be very good, and suddenly the reality was that we couldn't afford to care for our 2 dogs responsibly. We didn't have these dogs very long, but I'll be heartbroken if they aren't adopted.
Has This Ever Happened To Any Of You Here?

This was unreal...I had made a trip to the store for cat food (before I became cat food LOL!) and while slowing down behind a car that was turning, I got hit in the back. No real damage, just a scruff on the bumper of my Subaru Forester, and a bit of a blow to my ego, but the dang kid who hit me was texting her boyfriend while driving and obviously not paying attention to the road. She was only 19 years old! Holy cow!


I got out, she got out...still texting. She said, "Wait a minute," and continued texting. I couldn't believe it. I have that hands-free voice-activated cellphone setup in my Forester that DH set up for me, so I got back in and called the police department. If she hadn't been so rude, I might have let it go, but when she pulled that, I decided to teach her a lesson.


She was horrified to learn that I called the cops while she was texting. She actually yelled at me, saying, "My Dad's going to kill me! Why'd you do that? I didn't hurt your stupid car!" and on and on. I just stood there and looked at her.


The cop got there, threw the book at her: failure to yield, following too closely, texting while driving (it's a law here now -- you can't do that) and she has a nasty fine and her insurance is definitely going to go up. She was horrified.


Maybe she'll think twice before texting while driving again...before she causes real damage and people get hurt.


So that's my new pet peeve! Grrr! I'm going to find and buy that bumpersticker that says, "Hang up and drive!"


Has this ever happened to any of you?


Same happened to me..........
My mother is in a nursing home with dementia. She did never write a will. I do not live in the same city as my mother, my sister does. So my sister takes more care of my mother. Although my mother's retirement benefits cover all the expenses in the nursing home, my sister took all the money in my mother's bank account and put it into the purchase of an apartment for her and her boyfriend, without telling me. My mother told me before she was admitted to the mursing home that my sister and I should split the money that she had in the bank, 50/50, but my sister did not know that.
What shall I do now that all the money is invested in my sister's apartment?
I too have to turn the other cheek, so bad, so sad.
I'm sorry this happened, but you might

in a similar situation but different diagnosis (Tourette's).  You might actually take advantage of the situation.  Sometimes kids need to learn tolerance outside the home because they don't learn it at home.  Maybe the kids need to understand exactly what ADHD is so they can begin to understand?  You can talk to your child study team about this.  Maybe they can arrange for some sort of presentation, or perhaps you might want to take a role in that.  If he's classified and covered under IDEA and an IEP, you actually probably have a case against the school for her sharing that information, but you'd have to weigh that against possibly turning this into a positive situation and experience for your son.  Kids often tease and bully over things they don't understand.  It's natural and part of being a kid, but they should have some sense of tolerance for those who might appear or act "different." 


I can also tell you, since your son is in the 6th grade, you might really want to start working on having him advocate for himself.  He's getting up to that age where he will need to be able to do this to survive middle school and beyond.  This would extend not only to his peers, but his teachers and administrators too.  I can also tell you from experience that kids mature a LOT over the summer between 6th and 7th grade and hopefully this will help your son's situation going forward. 


Good luck to you!!  It's hard enough parenting the "normal" teenage, but add in one (or try 3) with disabilities and you've got your work cut out for you.


 


Yes - that happened to me with my first too (sm)
I went home weighing the same as I went in weighing! But!!!!! I lost 35 pounds in the first week after I sent home, all water weight!! My skin was loose on my feet and ankles for a week or two but it did go back to normal. I had watched sodium very closely but still had a lot of swelling. Don't worry, it will go away!
What happened

Why don't I remember any of these things being issues when I was a kid?  The world seemed so different then. 


Am I just looking through rose-colored glasses at my past?


Well, I do know there were STDs back then, but I never heard of AIDS then.  Kids weren't shooting other kids and teachers.  Drugs?  I never saw them being dealt or used at school.  Not then.  There weren't locked security doors or metal detectors when I went to school. 


We used to be able to go to the airport then and just stroll around, watching planes take off from the open observation decks.  There was even a movie theater in our airport.  Later, when I had my own kids, I still would take them to the airport, they loved watching the planes take off.  I remember a flight I was on with my husband and my oldest son when he was just the only one and a little guy at that.  They actually gave him a little packet on the plane that had crayons and a coloring book and a metal pilot-wings pin to wear.  Oh-God-now that would be considered a deadly weapon. 


It is such a shame how things are now.  Kids face a tremendous amount of pressure and dangers in school.  


When did the world take this sharp turn for the worst?  Was it the proliferation of drugs?  Now they are talking about legalizing marijuana.  Not sure if that is a good thing.  I guess there are many who would argue with me, but I just don't think it would be a good idea. 


I just wouldn't want to be a kid today. 


you are right, you do not know the situation...
and I did not go into complete detail, but at all the churches I was a giver of time, money, and self. I never said anything to members that would have hurt them in anyway. I was told by one pastor that I was a dying plauged horse that needed to find a field and die because he asked why he could not keep any men in the church and when my husband and I very lovingly explained why he got mad and what happened next got very ugly.

In the last church I was in I was basically running the church for him because he was too busy working his other job and such, spending church money on things other than what he was telling the congregation, etc, and when I told his fiance privately in a very loving way after much, much prayer that she needed to think about her children, as child services was getting ready to take them, he found out and called me every name in the book and told me that if I ever stepped on the property he would have me arrested. He told the congregation I left on my own and he had nothing to do with it. There are many more details that go with this situation, but I will leave it at that.

One church we were stuck in the middle of a church split and were on the wrong side of the split.

I will not go on. But I have tried to be a dedicated church member, doing every thing I could to fit in, do as I was told, sing and lead 3 worship services a week, at the church every time the church opened, lost friends, etc. trying to do what I thought God was instructing me to do and every time I ended up getting so deeply hurt that this last split has made it to where I get physically sick even thinking of going back to church. It is called "spiritual abuse" and unless you have gone through it you have no idea what it is like. I am glad you have a church you like and treats you correctly, but until you have been through what I have seen, heard, and been through you have no idea.

There are many a pastor out there who are independent and get corrupted by the power they have from the position of being a "man of God" and it is scary what can happen.

I will leave it at that, but there are times where Christians need to look at their actions and words and make sure they are inviting people to want to become Christians instead of making them want to run as far as possible in the opposite direction. Just my 2 cents.
Very sad situation......(sm)
I really do feel bad for you because of what has happened. Your sister should have offered to pay 'something!' And since she did not offer, I know that makes things difficult to forget about, but I'm sure that you would have been able to move on. She took it to an entirely different level when she put her hands on you. She should have stayed away and gave you time to cool off & herself time to cool off instead of showing up to ignite the fire. I know it makes you feel bad, but please do not blame yourself for what has happened. Regardless of the quad theft, she was the one who made the choice to physically attack you. She is the one who did something wrong, not you. She will hopefully learn a lesson that actions such as that have consequences.
Give yourself & her some time to cool off. Eventually the situation will calm down. It will probably take awhile, but don't let it take too long...time is precious. My older brother (only sibling) died in a mva a few years ago. We disagreed on everything most of the time. I always think back to those 'little arguments' and I think about how much precious time we wasted on trivial things, when we could have been enjoying our relationship. I would do anything to have him back now. Just a thought. Hope things get better for you. Stay positive. Do your part to try to re-establish peace, but do not feel guilty about what happened because it was not your fault. Hopefully, in time she will come to her senses and will be the one to suffer with the guilt of what she did.

same situation here -
However, we DO have a charter school available but it's a 45 minute round trip, have to pay an arm and a leg tuition, and STILL have to support the public school with our property taxes to boot.

Our migrant student to teacher ratio in our district is current 1 teacher to 6 students. Regular class ratio is 1 teacher to 31 students. Nice huh.
Not exactly the same situation
but a hospital I worked at went belly up and we went to work that morning and by 2 p.m. we were out of jobs. Not only that, but this was on a payday and our checks were not there and were not going to be coming. Then on top of that I find out that while we all thought the owner had been keeping up on our insurance he had not been and for the previous 2 months we didn't really have insurance, so all the tests and stuff I had during that time I had to pay for. And there was no Cobra to keep it going because there was no company anymore. It was a nightmare, and I already was juggling bills and I just got into a state of despair where I would quit even answering the phone. It took quite a bit to dig myself out of that pit, and still my credit sucks probably worse than yours- I couldn't even get a secured credit card 6 months ago. Dont know about now.
I'm in the same situation
I'm postmenopausal for 4 years now and started having trouble with the sleep pattern during menopause. I thought it would go back to normal after the menopause completed, but according to my doctor, it can take 10 to 15 years for some women.

When I get too badly sleep deprived, I take generic Benadryl - Walgreen's antihistamine, Wal-Dryl - 50 mg and I'm sleepy within 30-40 mins. and usually sleep through the entire night, 6-7 hours. Normally, I will take a 500 mg generic acetaminophen with the 50 mg antihistamine because I have shoulder and neck pain from transcription posture. That is the same as Tylenol PM but much, much cheaper.

If you read the labels, the sleeping pills that they charge $15 or so for, have the same medicine as the $3.50 antihistamines.

Also, since I started walking again about 6 weeks ago, I'm sleeping better.
Obviously you have never been in this situation before

Even though the agency may guarantee anonymity, it usually isn't too difficult to figure out who "blew the whistle." I have seen people harassed and threatened in similar circumstances. If this were a child who couldn't speak up for himself/herself, I would be calling Social Services in a New York minute. But that is not the case here.


It's up to the people involved to decide what to do. You made a suggestion, I pointed out some of the hazards involved in following your suggestion. Two sides to every story. 'Nuff said.


I have a situation regarding my DH's job...

Long story short, my DH has a 2-hour commute (roughly, depending on Atlanta's traffic) to and from work each day.  Now, this is only temporary, as when our DD graduates in May, we're moving out closer to his job.


Last night, he asked me what I thought about him taking an apartment on that side of town for 2-3 days a week, like Tues-Thurs, coming home on Friday-Monday.  We have 3 kids, the youngest being 8, who is very, very close to his daddy (the other 2 are 20 and 17, so would probably relish the idea of Dad being gone overnight).  Not to mention the fact that I work at home and don't have a lot of contact with the outside world (y'all can feel me, can't ya?). 


I guess my question is, am I being selfish to say absolutely NO to this idea, or what? I felt like crying when he brought it up; just the thought of him being away for 2-3 nights a week makes me sad.  We have a very close relationship, spend all of our time together when not working, and I just am not sure how to feel about this.


Of note:  I am not the least bit worried about him *acting up* while he's away.  We have a super-strong marriage and are completely devoted to each other and our family. What would y'all do?


We are definitely in about the same situation
My husband and yours must have been separated at birth! lol They sound just alike concerning their sons. I do think that my hubby feels sorry for his son because him and his mom split. I guess that's why he babies him so much. And his son is so jealous over me. I can't talk to my husband, touch him or anything without his son pouting or trying to get his Dad's attention. I want children of our own but I am afraid that because my stepson is so jealous that if his Dad shows attention to someone else that he would act out and hurt them. He's been hiding things of mine and I know he took 100.00 that was on my desk I had laying out. I searched the house over for it and never found it. He just probably tore it to pieces and threw it in the trash because he thought it was mine since it was on my desk. It's crazy. But thank you for your post. At least I know now I'm not the only one who has had any problems like this.
Wow, I'm in almost the same situation as you.
I have been in contact with my high school sweetheart for the last few years. I now live in a different state. We have both regretted marrying the people we did. We both have 2 children fairly young, but we are hoping we can be together sometime in the future.
Anyone ever been in this situation?

Yesterday, my son went on a field trip with the school to a local amusement park.  It was a 1-hour drive.  He begged me to take his Nintendo DS.  I finally gave in and said only 1 game.  I was chaperoning the field trip but was required to drive myself there and could take my son home with me, rather than riding the bus home.  When my son realized it was time for the buses to board the kids going back to the school, he said a girl in his class had his DS game (not the unit, just the game).  We looked for his class, but they must have already boarded the bus.  I told him to make sure he asked her for it first thing the following morning. 


When he got to school today, he asked the girl for it.  She said she gave it to another one of his friends in their class.  That boy said he put it in my son's desk.  Then another girl in the class said she found a DS game this morning under her desk and that she gave it to the girl that borrowed it originally.  Of course, that girl said that never happened.  Now my son has no game.  He just got it about a month ago and paid $35 for it out of his own money.


First of all, I have already told my son he will not be taking his DS on the bus anymore, period.  I don't care if it's an 8-hour drive both ways.  He's not taking it.  Here's my dilemma:  What do I do about this girl?  Do I just let it go?  I would really like to call her parents and let her know what she did in the hopes that they will take this opportunity to teach their child about responsibility and courtesy.  She asked to borrow my son's game.  My son was kind enough to lend it to here.  She should have returned it to him directly, not give it to someone to give it someone, etc.  I don't know this girl or her parents.  I'm not sure how well they'd take my parenting suggestion.  I'm not looking for them to replace the game (as much as I think they should, I will not ask that). 


I told my son he needs to take responsibility for his carelessness in not getting the game back when they got off the bus.  He knew he would not be getting back on the bus and likely would not see the girl the rest of the day.  I should mention these are 4th graders, so they should have had some clue here.


Okay, so do I call the parents or just chalk it up to a lesson learned?


Same situation
...except I am a single parent. I have a 10 year old who was arguing with teachers and classmates and fighting almost daily. He also started to be disrespectful at home and when I would send him to his room for punishment, he would kick and throw things around in his room while mumbling under his breath as well as blatently yelling at me.

The second episode of kicking and throwing things, I told him to stop or I would call the police. I was downstairs and eventually heard something break. I was very angry at this point. I ran upstairs to his room (wanted him to hear me running) and I forcfully opened his door (was glad to see that he looked startled). Very angrily, I told him that if I heard one more noise from his room, I would call the police. I told him to clean up the mess from the item he broke. He told me he wasn't going to clean up anything. I called the police.

The police arrived. After I explained to him the long list of problems I had been having with him, the policeman gave him a speech for about 30 minutes...asking him questions along the way to keep him engaged. He said all of the usual things that any adult outsider would say to your kid. This worked for about 3 weeks...then back to the same.

After a terrible morning of him lying about something and being sent to his room for punishment, he started the same throwing, kicking, talking back routine. I politely pulled his suitcase into the hallway. I entered his room and began removing his clothing from his closet and placing them into the suitcase. I told him to go put his dirty clothes in front of the washer so I could wash them. I calmly told him that I was not going to put up with his crap anymore and that I was going to take him to the intake office for foster care. I told him that while he was in foster care I would be inviting his cousins over to enjoy his xbox, model cars, CDs, DVDs, etc. I told him that it was going to be nice having kids around who are respectful and appreciative of my love/affection and other things that I could offer them. He did not say a word. While those clothes were washing, I did not hear a peep out of him. When I put the clothes into the dryer, he said, "I don't want to go to foster care." I told him, sorry...I have no choice....told him I was sick of having a house that was always filled with turmoil. Told hi that since he seems to be unable to control himself and cannot disrespect the mother who works so hard to take care of him and tries so hard to love and support him....he has to go. He says...please don't send me to foster care. I told him I would give him one more chance. I told him that his suitcase would remain packed and that he was to get dressed each day out of that suitcase and that whenever clothes were washed he would place them back into the suitcase.

This happened in April. He is still getting dressed out of that suitcase. You would not believe the difference this has made. He still lies and when he is caught he is sent to his room, but now there is not kicking or throwing things...there is no talking back. He just lies quietly on his bed reading a book or fiddling with one of his little gadgets. After an hour or so (because he is taking his punishment like a normal person should) I tell him that he can now come out of his room if he is willing to apologize for lying and admit that he lied.

Long story short...the packed suitcase has done the trick. He knows that I am serious. He now understands that if he breaks the rules he will be punished. He understands that his behavior while he is being punished has a major impact on the length of his punishment. It is sad that he has to get dressed out of a suitcase, but this has been very effective for us.
My dad was in that situation....
Lung cancer, medication was 3000 a month; trials indicated it worked. He was on it for 6 months, out a lot of money and then guess what, AstraZeneca admitted they manipulated the outcome of the study, the stuff really didn't work at all. He died a few months later (this was 3 years ago). He would have probably lived the same length of time if he hadn't have spent the money. The docs and drug companies are out for themselves, IMHO.
I think about it a lot but different situation (sm)
My two children are almost the exact ages of yours. My husband doesn't have the drinking issue but has plenty of personality issues. I think you absolutely should leave, no ifs, ands or buts. I just think being in that environment is awful for your kids, he is saying it is not going to work anyway and talking about ending the marriage. I say if he doesn't change then yes, go, without a doubt.
sorry for your situation. it is a
shame there is so much focus on the gifts. no, i don't have any great suggestions. couldn't help but think of something along the lines of recent (political) emails about spreading the wealth around...(ha!) The only serious suggestion i have is telling them you think the focus this year esp should be on helping the less fortunate, and rather than give gifts this year to each other, that you'd prefer everyone just donate to the charity(ies) of their choice, or instead of saying it as a suggestion,maybe as a statement: this is what you are going to do and hope that they will too (realizing that "charity begins at home"). God bless.
Sorry you are in the same situation
I took her to her doctor and while she was having an x-ray, I spoke with him about my concerns. He said "you know your aunt...I have tried talking to her too but she refuses to listen". She found out I spoke with him and went balistic - that it was none of my business, etc.

We have all tried talking to her about assisted living close to us but she refuses to leave New York and come here to Jersey. She even refused assisted livlng there. She does have someone come in and clean and friends who help her out. She gets angry because I cannot just get up and leave my job to come up all the time. It is a 2.5 hour drive without traffic. Every idea we come up with she refuses so it is not like we have not tried to get the help she needs. My parents are in bad health so it is hard for them to help out and me being the caretaker of everybody without the little help I receive from my brother - I am at a loss. The real issue here is Christmas.