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True Christians do not do this, that's why I jump all over them. LOL

Posted By: SM on 2007-08-17
In Reply to: I'm very disappointed, but not in what you call "anti-Christian posts." - sm

A true Christian does not feel the need to preach nor should they.

Only the ones trying to recruit through brainwash do the preaching
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Southern Baptists are Christians. Christians are those who believe in Christ. nm
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So only Christians can be president? This is
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I think as Christians we can use Santa Claus

As a witness if we want to.  I feel that Santa is a fun part of Christmas but of course we should not forget the REAL reason for the season.  We can give to others to show the love of Christ, Him giving His life for us.  It is all about how you look at it and show it to others.  God Bless you all and have a Blessed Christmas :) 


P.S.  A very good way to witness is through WorldVision.  They have a wonderful gift catalog that I used for Christmas presents.  You can purchase a wheelchair for a child in another country, childcare for orphans, etc. 


I have nothing against Christians, just why do you feel the need to advertise...
wherever you go? That is what most people don't like. Sort of like how gay people are always advertising their sexual preference. You don't see heterosexuals doing that. Much like you don't see very religious Catholics doing this.

Do you think it makes you even more Christian-like if you advertise it and preach about it? Well, it doesn't. If you were really secure with your faith, you actually wouldn't need to do it at all.

So to us, it sort of makes you just as obnoxious as the gay guys making out in public in Miami.

:)
Well, yes only Christians because you have to swear on the Bible. How can you sm
swear on something that you don't even believe in?

Besides, the latest polls show that 80+% of Americans believe that they are Christians. That's a huge majority.

Also, if they were not Christians and were running, I would certainly like to know their personal values and what their value system is based on if it isn't the Bible. Again, they swear in on the Bible, that's not just opinion.
Southern Baptists are Christians...nm
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And the facts are also that there are Christians and pedophiles and (sm)
people who have premarital sex, and people who are Nuns and people who do drugs. Do we take them on field trips for all of those too?
As Christians we are called to serve others. That's what we are supposed to do. nm
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Yeah, afraid of pushy christians.


 


Don't jump...
Please don't jump to a hasty decision.  Like has been said before, think everything through before making a rash decision you might soon regret.  Dr. Phil says, *if you think the marriage is hard, just wait til the divorce.*  I've been on both sides of this fence, without going into detail, and it can work out.  And honestly, I had the same sort of relationship your husband says he did; we did see each other for a while, but did not have sex, didn't even come close.  Please, email me if you need to talk, because truly, I have been there...it can work out and make you and your marriage even stronger...cross my heart!
get up and jump up and down
Go take a walk for 10 minutes or so. Good luck!
I had a guy jump right in front of me
As if he didn't see me.  I didn't want to make a scene, but I thought it was very rude.  I absolutely hate cell phone usage in public.  It is very annoying.  I will purposefully make noise to interrupt.  I think cell phone usage while driving should be banned as well.  Most people are not paying the least bit of attention when they are driving and talking on a cell phone.  It is worse than driving drunk in my opinion. 
I'm not going to jump on your case about this sm

But I wonder why you think these kids need to be told now? Has something happened that makes you think that someone besides their parents might let it slip? If that is the case, then maybe you need to talk to the parents about it and tell them that so-and-so found out and isn't good at keeping secrets, or whatever the case may be.


In any case, if you talk to anyone about this, talk to the parents.


Sorry to jump in late, but something else to try...
Massage therapy! I go every week, but during my PMS days (and I get it BAD!!) I make sure I tell my therapist (been going to her for over 4 years now and she really knows me) I am having PMS. She does some extra focus on my head and neck area for that session and I promise you it helps relax me more and does take some of it away. One time I went to her with severe cramps in tears and shaking with pain and they went away completely before I got off her table. She also tells me to focus on my breathing when I find myself getting bent out of shape. Easier said than done, I know. Best of luck to you. :-)
I'm gonna have to jump out on a ...
limb here and say that you don't deserve the two kids that you have since you aren't talking to one because of money and you get mad at your other child for calling you and asking if you are upset.  OMG......seriously.  Get your head checked!
Jump off a bridge already.
I find myself wishing that toward all the pedophiles I've been typing about lately.  My heart just aches for their victims.  I'm so disgusted by what they do, have done, that I just about puke by the end of the notes.   As soon as this shift is over, I'm taking a hot shower to help wash away my disgust. 
Jump rope.
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Well just jump in there with your concerns..
All men are created equal. It is understood that the "women" are included.

I just want to jump in here and perhaps clarify.
I think it's a common belief that the Catholic Church believes marriage outside the Church is sinful. Actually, the Church labels it as non-sacramental. The Catholic Church makes no ruling on the legality of marriages. In other words, if you've followed the laws where you live, and you have a marriage license, you're married civilly. Divorce, also, is a civil matter that is dealt with in the courts.

Catholic annulments, for instance, do not determine whether or not a couple was actually married, but whether or not the couple entered into a sacramental marriage.

A sacramental marriage must take place in a Catholic church, is witnessed by a priest or deacon, etc. Couples married outside of the Church can receive what is commonly called a "blessing", but it is actually their entering into the sacramental state of marriage according to the Church. If their married according to the law where they live, then they are civilly married, and the Church recognizes it as a legal marriage.

Some people consider it a lot of hoop-de-doo, I suppose. But it's part of the faith and tradition of the Catholic Church, and so it should be respected in the same way that people respect the Amish living apart from the modern world.

So, yes, if a couple is married outside of the Catholic Church, the church recognizes their marriage as legal. It doesn't recognize it as sacramental.

It's a topic that others explain better than I. So I apologize if I've actually made the issue more confusing.
Wow, sounds like you want to jump right into the fire.
I wouldn't do it.  Way too expensive.  Y'all are probably young.  I would sleep on it for several, several nights.
He had pneumonia, let's not jump to judgement here,,

If he starts by helping himself, I will jump in. He saw
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Finish from above: As they jump off the cliff.
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Go jump through your window, Chuck.
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If Cindy's parents let her jump off a bridge would you do it too.
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I grab my CD player and jump around to good music...
as it really does help! It gets my heart pumping and totally wakes me up. I've been doing that for years. Just put your headphones on and go!
Needing A Mental/Emotional Jump Start
You good people are probably as good to ask as anybody although if we had a philosophy board, it might be better. My question is Why? Why are we killing ourselves? And I mean this in the broader sense than just the MT industry. I have an ex (46 years old) who is an alcoholic. He lives waaaaaaay out in a very rural area. He owns his own house, land, and a lot of horses, something he acquired 20 years ago when he had a really really good job. He has a regular income now of about $1000/month from CDs, primarily funded from an industrial accident about 10 years ago.

Anyway, neither he nor any of his friends work. They sit around, start drinking at noon and light their first joint, and just drink steadily until passing out around 2 AM. They play horseshoes, cribbage, shoot pool, shoot the breeze, joy ride, poach deer, etc. His house is kind of a dump (jiggle the toilet handle, turn on the tub water with pliers, no windows that open) and lots of projects undertaken while drunk, some done, many half finished. As they say, the Lord provides for fools and drunks, and that seems to be the case here, as he never goes hungry, has never had to do without his vices because of money, etc. Somehow, something always falls into his lap when he needs it, and I'm not talking $20...he'll rent a chunk of land to a farmer for several K and gets all caught up, or he sells some old fencing and gets a grand. He bought a couple of timeshares years and years ago so he takes these great vacations a couple of times a year where the lodging is only $150/week.

I had to leave because I just couldn't stand the lifestyle (I don't drink, smoke pot, or shoot pool), but I'm wondering why. I'm killing myself working 2 jobs to keep the roof over my head and maintain even a meager quality of life, and while I don't have the drunken projects he does, my house is no palace. If it weren't for my kids chipping in and helping, my car would have been reclaimed by the finance company a couple months ago.

So I'm having a hard time hanging on to my motivation lately. There's probably some jealousy involved, but it's also making me wonder why I bother. If I really wanted to, he would probably take me back and there are moments that I wonder 'Why not?'. What is wrong with the way he is living? Footloose and fancy free without a care in the world?

How do you find the strength/will to go on plugging away when it would be so easy to fall into the idiot/drunk category and just the Lord take care of everyday existence like he does for the ex?
Also to YOU: Fead the whole thread. Do not jump in in the middle of a thread:
You will experience the bad side effects of Xanax, when you try to stop the intake of Xanax. Honestly, don't you notice that you are increasing the dosage on your own?

It is not a sleeping pill, it is an anxiolytic, it is supposed to lessen anxiety.
What are you so anxious about?

Try not to take it this evening, you'll see that you cannot or don't want to.
It is a highly addictive drug.

Another addicted person?
No way this is true... sm
my husband is Aries and has never had an accident in his 34 years of driving. My brother-in-law is also an Aries and he's never had a wreck in 28 years of driving.
Very true,
I just do not want to hurt my husband or hurt our marriage. I have been doing a lot of praying about the situation and I am not going to let him ruin our holiday. If I have to not go around him I will just not go around him. Thanks again for all the replies, God Bless and Merry Christmas
very true
But if you limit to under 20 gm for 2 weeks you will loose those bread cravings and sugar cravings. After that you have to slowly put them back in (the right ones fruits and veggies)and test at what level you will still loose weight. Adkins...But it you go overboard and cut them out for good will end ya in the hospital with kidney failure. Otherwise Adkins is a great program...2 weeks and the cravings end, amazing. I mark a start and end point for the 2 weeks on the calander and x out each day because to start it is brutal. As long as I can seen an end in site I'm ok. I lost 40 pounds on it 2 years ago and they put me back on meds to manage chronic pain and it went right back on, now I am learning to manage both. Bad back and extra weight are not a good combination.
according to what or who is this true?
reincarnation maybe? 
So true!
You are so right--wish more had your compassion! There should be a ''Golden Rule'' for animals!
True but if you think about it -
helping someone to help themselves to not be a drain on taxpayers is NEVER a bad idea.

I was a single mother at 18. I had no one to depend on and couldn't get welfare. It was a long struggle but I did it and I did it on my own. Not everyone can.
So true.
uio
LOL true!
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That's not true
They will remove that money from your account unless they have some sort of overdraft protection that prevents it from bouncing. But if the check bounces, they will take the money from you. That is why at stores, they always have signs saying you will be charged a $25 fee for a returned check - because that money was taken away from them.

I had a $300 check that was given to me bounce and they took that $300 away from me - that was a mess!!!
Not true
My parents have been happily married for 45 years and in my entire childhood I remember them having 1 fight.

This is not to say a man is necessary for happiness. I personally have never married, am still single (and happy) at age 41. But I know its possible to find someone like that--in the meantime, I am happy with my life and will never "settle" for less just to have a man.
Very true (sm)
No woman should ever need to be dependent on a man to survive, ditto for men being dependent on a woman. Everyone should be self-sufficient in life.

Please teach your children, male and female, to learn a trade or a career that will allow them to support themselves. Please teach them to establish their own credit rating. Teach them to live beneath their means. Teach them self-respect and morals. Teach them to be self-reliant and independent. If they have the fortune of finding a wonderful man or woman, they are blessed as will be their children. If that wonderful man or woman turns out to be Satan in human form, they will possess the right strengths to handle the situation. If the wonderful man or woman drops dead long before their time they will at least have the knowledge and ability to support themselves and/or children.

There are wonderful men and women out there. You usually don't find them in bars. It takes more than 6 months to determine if they are worthy of you. Don't "settle". We are all responsible for our choices and hopefully learn by our mistakes.

To the women on this board who think they can't leave their husbands because they don't have the financial resources, please consider if staying is worth the lesson your children are learning in how to treat a wife. If that husband dropped dead right now, what's the difference? A life insurance policy? You will find a way to survive. No child deserves to grow up in a battlefield. Stop the cycle of abuse by teaching your children that being abused, whether physically or mentally, is never acceptable. Standing up for yourself so you can stand up for your children. Teach your children strength in by doing what is right, whether it is seeking counseling and/or leaving a bad marriage.

The woman that started this thread was so right in saying that when you hit middle age and beyond, you will be astounded at where life went and why you didn't make it better when it mattered most. Listen to your elders!

I decided to leave a bad marriage after 13 years. My husband had pulled "the last straw" and I told him I was leaving without batting an eyelash. On the inside I was in a complete wreck. Didn't know where I would go, how I would survive, but bad husband be damned, there was no way on this planet I was going to let my son grow up in that environment. I gave up all the comforts, the fancy home, the new cars, the vacations, etc. I'd do it again in a NY minute and I don't miss it in the least. NOTHING is worth compromising your sanity and your children's identity.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." - Eleanor Roosevelt
That's true, too.
I am sure now that I have invited her to email me we will do just that. That, of course, does not mean that we can't or won't use this board too, probably just not as much. I have only been speaking with this person for many a week, it's not like we have tied up the board for months. I know what you are saying, and frankly I have thought of that, too. It is annoying to us to be put down for just being friends. People who love their animals can't say enough about it, and that way it would be totally private and we can talk the whole DOGgone day or night. How about it, Me2, give me your opinion.
How very, very true!
Reading that just took me back twenty-five years! At the point where he asked me not to tell the cast members in his play who I was because they didn't know he was married (and I actually complied!)I knew it was either get out or commit suicide. I made the sane choice.
Is it really true?
Reading a great little book called "Food Pets Die For" I learned that the recent epidemic of pet deaths forcing recall of nearly a hundred brands of poisonous commercial pet food is only the "tip of the iceberg". Is it true that ground up roadkill, diseased pet carcasses, and slaughterhouse waste, mixed with grain unfit for human consumption and laced with synthetic preservatives, is considered a healthy diet for people's beloved pets by most veterinarians? If not, then why do so many vet offices sell the stuff?
Yes, it's true

I've heard the Wal-Mart brands are the worst (like Old Roy).


I have to feed my dog a special dog food I get from the vet for dogs with kidney and bladder problems because he gets bladder stones. Hill Science Diet makes it.


I also get regular boneless chicken breasts from the grocery store, usually about 10 pounds at a time, cook them up in the crock pot (I have a 5-6 quart crock pot), put them into plastic bowls and freeze them. Since he is a small dog, that makes enough food for his "supper" for a month or more. I usually try to catch sales for $1.99 a pound (sometimes $1.49 a pound). That's only $20 for a month's worth of food that you know is at least reasonably healthy.


Very true
My friend goes to garage sales every weekend. She collects antiques and picks up things at sales that people have no idea how much they're worth and she buys them for close to nothing and finds out they're work hundreds of dollars.
That might be true but
a person working at the jail, prison, etc., etc. is not allowed to give out that information about a person. Right?
True
So true....I guess I worded the message wrong....just trying to say she did right thing by going home to her family....leaving the past for what it was.....
so true

In our state they had instituted a program called "young 5's", which was basically a year of pre-K where they did the exact same cirriculum as K.  I saw no point in it as my child was K ready, so I insisted they just go ahead and put him in Kidnergarten.  His teacher kept hassling me about it during conferences.  She was an old battle-ax that insisted she knew better than me and he belonged in pre-K.  She couldn't give any reason other than "emotionally immature" (what 5 year old isn't?).  She informed me that sooner or later, he'd be held back a year because of my arrogance about his ability and pushing him into something he wasn't ready for - SHE knew, SHE had been in the business a long time and SHE was the expert.


He started high school this year at the age of 13 (he'll be 14 next month), and still hasn't been held back a grade due to "emotional immaturity" - in fact he's doing just fine.  I think when he graduates I'm going to track her down and rub her face in his diploma - I'm still peeved at her after all this time for trying to bully me into keeping him back a year .


This is true...
And I did think about that. Like I said, I'm happy with the bonus, just not about the danged taxes...
Sad, but true . . .
that during the holidays there can be so much pain. There are millions of families hurting right now, and the holidays just make it more painful. We have the image that this is supposed to be about family, togetherness, and all is well.

I too have an unstable family, and it can get pretty painful, if I let it. I am the oldest with 6 sisters, and most of them do not include me in the holidays. I could go on and on, but the bottom line is this:

You cannot force anybody to change. You cannot force your family to have a relationship with you, and most of all, you must take the focus off about who did what to who, and bring it back to center in yourself. The more you disconnect from the chaos within the family, and focus on your center - that part of your being that is whole, loving, at peace, and connected with the real meaning of Christmas, the better you move in the right direction. I know it's hard, very hard, but look to someone who has accomplished this and is a model for you. Take the best of who you are, and show your granddaughter what family love is about. You can have a wonderful time with her, and those who choose to be a willing part of your life. Family is not always about blood relations. Family are those who uphold you, who share your values and beliefs, and who are able to express love willingly, and in a healthy manner. It is better to be in a stable environment that is mentally,emotionally and spiritually healthy, than to be in an environment with tension, anxiety, and pain.

I too am learning the hard way. I have six sisters who are totally chaotic, and cannot get together in the same room because some have so much bitterness and hate. I learned that I cannot be the catalyst for holding the family together. I tried that, and all that happened is I got kicked out of the family for being what my sisters says is judgemental. So be it.

There are many supportive groups around the holidays that can help you cope. Look in your community services, churches, and support groups. I am going to Al-Anon for the holidays to cope with my family of origin issues.

In the meantime, keep your chin up, and give that child a loving holiday. My prayers are with you.
That's not true
Please don't throw out information unless you know for sure.
So true! nm
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