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Where I live animals are not supposed to run freely but

Posted By: Animal person on 2008-03-11
In Reply to: Should house cats be confined indoors? - sm.

some do, my 2 furries live inside (I have bird feeder right outside my work window and they have a chair in front where they get to watch the birds as do I). Having said that, next door neighbor has a dog and 2 catss who run at will. One day watching outside I see 1 of the cats run and catch a squirrel (I am trying to get keys to run outside and scare the cat away, no such luck) and another day 1 of her furries tries to come and jump to catch the birds who eat at my birdfeeder. I called our homeowners associate and they suggested maybe I call animal control or shoot the animals- I liked neither 1 of these comments. I see a furry out in my yard occasionally but my husband does not mind as he says good for varmit control (he means rats, by the way).


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Where I live, with the exception of Petsmart, animals are
not welcome inside of stores. Kind of sad in one way, but I can understand it in another. I have small/medium dog. She absolutely loves to ride in the car, so she accompanies the kids to and from school, and if we just need to run to the convenience store, we go there (yes it is a locally owned mom and pop type of store so she is more than welcome). Not sure I would take her shopping, but then again.. not sure I wouldn't either if it was allowed here.

You know what they say...... people who do not like animals are typically not good people anyway. Animals and children are the best judge of character. Not saying you are one of these people, but something to think about.
Animals not allowed to roam where we live
by the rules in our community and my cats are indoor ALWAYS - that does not mean others keep theirs in. I tried to rescue a squirrel the cat next door caught in front of my home so they would turn the squirrel loose and the other day a Great Dane (apparently in heat) came into my yard and then the dog next door came over to try to romance that one. I really, really hate to see animals out anywhere - oh the other day was told we have coyates (sp?) in the neighborhood and be sure not to let animals out- 1 lady found only tufts of hair and collar from cat apparently killed them them. I usually am trying to feed strays when I see them.
Giving freely but never getting back

So how many years should one spend $100-$250 on someone's birthday or Christmas while receiving nada in return all year long, not even thanks?  It sure doesn't make a person feel loved or appreciated - and its hard to have the "joy of giving" when you're giving into an endless void and know there will be no presents for YOU.  I want to be seen as a person with needs and feelings too - not just a perpetual gift machine, or permanent Santa.  I'd rather give to charity than my kids when I have to force them to acknowledge they even GOT a gift, much less twist their arm until they choke out a thanks - and they act like I must be an alien with 2 heads to think THEY should give anything to anyone.


Actual conversation between me and 30-something kid


me - Hi, how you been, etc.  (five minutes into conversation with no mention of present)  Say, did you get a package in the mail from company X?


kid - yeah, that was a surprise.


me - well, did you LIKE it?


kid - oh, yeah.  It was really nice, made my day!  Showed my friends and they were like, wow!


me - well, I wasn't sure if you even GOT it, or if the company had even sent it to you.  So I thought I'd check and see.


kid -  Uh, yeah I got it.  Um, thanks.


me - my holiday was pretty lonely, nobody called, and I didn't get any presents.


kid - mine too.  You're the only one who ever gets me anything, everyone else just ignores me.


me - well, if you were lonely you could've called me.


kid - yeah, I know, but I was too depressed because everyone was ignoring me.


I BANG MY HEAD ON THE WALL!!!!


I do live in Arkansas - my parents live up in Branson so I'm in Missouri quite often!
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Calling all you animal lovers - live and let live or intervene? - sm

I have a dilemma.  I am an animal lover and have something I cannot come to a conclusion about.  At a restaurant where I eat lunch every Friday with a friend of mine, I have noticed a young male kitty hanging around outside looking for food.  This past week he ran up to my friend and rubbed her legs and quietly meowed.  I purposely did not try to pet him because I knew I would get attached and ignored him.  Well, ever since then I find myself thinking about him and wanting to rescue him.  Meanwhile, I already have 4 inside cats (2 rescues, 2 Maine Coons) and hubby really does not want another cat in the house because a few years ago I promised we would  never have more than 4 (had up to 5 at one point previously).  I actually have a huge screened deck he could stay on indefinitely because I do not believe in letting cats run loose for their own safety.  I could provide plenty of food, a warm place to sleep, and veterinary care.  At some point I would even probably work him into our household, but I just cannot do it at the moment.  Just not sure I would be doing right by that kitty because I am sure he would be upset and confused for a good while as to where he was and what was going on, but is that better than being hungry and cold?  I know there are lots of animal lovers out there.  What does everyone think?? 


I'm a live-and-let-live person but had to draw the line

after I found HUGE holes in the walkway between my house and barn.  I thought they were just little mice stealing grain, but then I spotted one and it was a HONKIN RAT!  My poor olderly cat was out there with me at the time and saw it, and he hissed at it and ran away! 


I asked for advice on what to do at a local agricultural board, because I have other animals and didn't want to use poison and conventional traps weren't working.  They advised putting a large pale of water out with some seeds floating in it, figuring the rats would go for the seeds and end up drowning.  That was a no-go because the water just froze up solid.  I wound up reluctantly going with Decon because I just can't have my house destroyed.  I haven't had seen any more rats or evidence of them stealing grain, so I'm guessing they have died.  The guy at the grain store promised me the rats would not die in the building and stink the joint up, rather they would crawl off and die outside.  I don't know if I believe that, as it is still winter here and decomposition would be holding off until it warms up.  We'll see, but at least the destruction has been halted.


Good luck and I too say have no mercy, because you just don't need them destroying hour house or causing a spark chewing wires and burnin' the place down.  It is war!   


  (How un-PC is this emoticon?!)


 


Make them live outside? This is so funny! Ours live outside, where they WANT to be. sm
Not all dogs want to be in "indoor" dogs, mind you. They have plenty of space to run around and play, fenced, and if they are brought in during bad weather they whine at the back door to go back out! So before you comment on outside dogs, you really need to get your facts straight. Seriously. Not all dogs are made or want to be inside all of the time.
And what was she supposed to do
tell her to get back on the boat to her face? Give me a break, who hasn't done something similar? Who hasn't made a nasty remark about an aquantaince or neighbor and then smiled and waved when they saw them again? You people really crack me up. Most of you are women. Women gossip. Admit it and get over your holier-than-thou selves. lol
How sad that you think everyone is supposed to think like you do
Very arrogant IMO.
being an IC, you are SUPPOSED to be able to--sm
set your own hours. Had I been asked, I may have volunteered to work, as I have no one at home, but I did have plans to spend some time with my mother and my grown children for various functions. I was not asked and when I emailed and said what days and times I would be available to work this holiday, I was told the work needed to be returned to the doctors by Tuesday, so I did not have a choice but to get it done. Perhaps there will be a *little extra* charge on my invoice this next two weeks, as well. I also have been working every weekend for the past month, seven days a week, and I am pretty burnt out, as well. and yes, I have asked for the weekend off many times, in case someone mentions it, and have been sent work anyway. I am really getting tired of being treated this way. I know I have to take a stand, and soon. I cannot continue to work seven days a week and holidays, for my own health and sanity. Something has to change, and soon. I have told my employer this, but it does not seem to make any difference to her. thanks again for listening. ks
Is this supposed to mean something

Ok, so what is SP supposed to do then?
All of you gals are smart enough to know that teenagers are going to do what teenagers want to do and there is only so much talking/preaching/begging a parent can do about doing the right thing.

No, Bristol should not have gotten pregnant, that was stupid but it was her stupid mistake, not SP's and SP and her husband are being supportive parents. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that! BTW, I speak from experience, I did the same thing to my parents when I was 20 and it had absolutely nothing to do with what they did or did not say to me regarding sex. It was my choice and I knew the consequences. They were supportive of me and showed me mercy that I did not deserve.
What is this supposed to mean?...sm
Push 1 for English
Push 2 for Spanish,

so what? Hispanics are the largest minority in this country, therefore.
BTW, I am NOT Spanish, but 'Push 1 for English' does not bother me at all!
How narrow minded.
Am I really supposed to tip
At the new pizza place I go to, I call to order my pizza, then go to pick it up twenty minutes later. The man behind the counter hands me the pizza and takes my money. He has a tip jar on the counter. Am I cheap if I don't tip for this? I worked a lot harder for my customers in the gift shop, and I never asked for tips for that.
Just a tip about animals
As I am getting cleaned up from Christmas and heading towards the New Year, thought I would pass on something that I do and if you don't know about it and can do the same, here tis: I get the newspapers each day (along with lots of subscriptions to different magazines), save them up and when I get a big bunch I take them to my local animal shelter. They cut them up and use for bedding for the animals. Pass it on.....
Well at least they like animals...
I'd take them for neighbors over someone who *shoots at* animals, any day!
Animals
Dogs and cats are good! That will be a fun job and animals are so loving and grateful for anything we do. Good choice too since you get free vet care you can get another dog! Or two. You can never have enough dogs. I only have three. I need a bigger house so I can have more dogs! They are our "babies" and are spoiled. I would hate to transcribe without my dogs who sit next to me and "wait" - what have I ever done to deserve this? I just accept it and feel loved.
animals
If she could have someone else feed them honestly it would save her a bunch. The minimum I have seen places charge and I have moved around alot was 16 a night per animal. Sometimes if you can put 2 in the same cage they give you a small discount on one animal per cage.
what we will do for our animals. .
One year my cat just kept jumping up into the middle of the tree. . we came home from work several times with the tree in the floor. . we eventually anchored the tree to the floor AND ceiling. . . as he got older he got calmer. . I'm sad to say last Christmas was his last - he died in January at age 17. . . He was a good friend. .
Yup, just like animals, neither can they. LOL
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animals

I would do the samething, have two dogs that I love dearly which one is blind and has lived in the same house since she was a puppy, and still runs into the walls and things. It is so sad to see, so I would never do anything to make it any harder on her.    Bless you for being so caring.    


raw animals
The wild animal the dog kills wasn't raised on a factory farm under conditions favorable for salmonella epidemics, and wasn't force-fed antibiotics to cover the many diseases hens get when they live in such tight quarters.

Then again, the raw chicken is actual chicken, rather than "animal digest" or the other euphemisms the pet food industry uses to cover the miserable quality of their food (even the premium brands are just awful).


And just look at how animals
almost always hook up with another animal friend ... even natural enemies.

I guess if you are very social, you can get enough from other people and activities. I get drained too easily and so would rather have my mate than be alone.

how do you know that? Unfortunately animals
cannot tell us how they feel, not before and not after.
Well Mary was only supposed to be 13-14 and . . .
not everybody believes it was an immaculate conception.
How about *she was suppose to*, when it should be supposed to : )
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I don't get this from her note, her DH was supposed -sm
to be helping with the kids so she could bring home money. I am sure he has no problem spending any money she makes, but he does not want to be inconvenienced in the course of her making the money. I know, I have the same problem but not as bad as she does. My older daughter did not even know she had a dad basically until she was about 19 months old, then my DH had absolutely no choice but to help as I gave birth to our second daughter. At that point he'd probably only changed 2 diapers. But with kid #2 he helped more than he did with the first one, but still under some duress. To this day he still won't brush their hair, or supervise/help with teeth brushing (he says he doesn't know how to do it, well he does it himself so where is the problem), they are 6 and 8 now. You never feel pestered by your kids, you get on the phone and instantly they want you and nag you to death until you either lock yourself in the bathroom or get off the phone, then they don't want/need you anymore. Yes, I feel pestered sometimes, doesn't mean I don't want to take care of my children, I'd die for them if necessary. The poster is frustrated, obviously being verbally abused and has a jerk for a DH. I can relate and I am sure many others can too. It is hard to be supermom, work, clean, take care of the kids/house, make DH happy, everyone but you comes first, and then when the DH has to actually help out boy you'd think you were cutting off his leg. Well, mine is not like that now, but he used to be. Now he is good about it and likes his time with the kids on his own but they are older now and easier to deal with. They still can drive you nuts though. I hope she can somehow get him to turn around, maybe stop working for 2 weeks and when he sees the money is not coming in maybe he will realize just how important it is that she have the time to work without interuptions and pitch in some to lighten her load.
Keep calling them, they are supposed to pay - sm
for the vet bills, granted that is of little solace but you should not have to pay for their negligence.
I know this is supposed to be about BFing
with you.  You could smother them with your big 1/2 dollar nipples ya' got going there!  LOL - sorry had to add to this one!  I don't really care if you BF or not, but once the baby can hold a cup or be potty-trained no less (most are starting to potty train now by 2), they SHOULD NOT be feeding from a woman's breast especially someone else's child!  That's disgusting!  If he/she is going on the potty, they are going on the cup!      
Inside this was supposed to say
thud

but I put it inside brackets so it disappeared. I'll try it with spaces:

< thud >
Darn! How are we supposed to
be able to notice if we get cancer with never-ending night sweats from hormonal changes??




I believe your witnesses are not supposed - sm
to be beneficiaries of the will. As for 2 witnesses, I always thought it was 1 witness. But I just looked at my will and it had 2 witnesses, 1 was the lawyer and the other someone from his staff. Banks notorize too, I'd call your bank and ask if they would witness the will and notorize it too. That would be the easier route I would think, and I am sure they are probably used to such requests.
above supposed to say - you crack me up!! nm
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Dachshunds are supposed to be
odor-free, so there is something going on, possibly yeast or seborrhea or teeth or ears or something. I'd say it's time for a visit to the vet.
How am I supposed to get work done now!
This site is hilarious. I'm only up to page 12.
First 800,000 supposed to be deposited
My DH's SSN ends in 03, so I'm hoping we'll get ours today. Nothing yet. We did do direct deposit for our tax refund too.
Sorry, this was supposed to be for Gary, but

your kitties are precious, too!!  Aren't they all just messes?  Gotta love 'em! 


women are supposed to have
babies, not litters.
My dad was supposed to do the same thing - sm
but I don't think he is now that he is remarried and had become "reborn", now goes to church, bible study and sings in his church choir....all after not going to church since 1971. He rediscovered religion again at about age 65, would read the bible some, but really got back into when he met my stepmother 4 years ago. He is 74 now. So I expect my stepmom will pull out all the stops for his funeral, but that is her preogative as she will be footing the bill. I think they are the biggest waste of money personally. I find it amusing the when people get closer to their mortality they turn to religion. My DH and I plan for cremation and having our ashes scattered nearby. No funeral, no service. My DH absolute hates funerals so it would be kind of silly for him to have one. I know his parents are having them and being buried at a Veteran's cemetary near where they live. His dad is a vet of the Korean war so they both get free burials there. Of course they will still funeral home costs, as I know they will want viewings though most of their friends and family are dead or have moved from the area so there won't be too many people to attend when the time comes. I will have a heck of a time making him go to his own parent's funeral when the time comes.
Oops! This was supposed to be in...

...response to the question about debit cards without bank involvement.


Sorry. 


That's supposed to be quote. Sorry.
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that's supposed to be ൺ" this
year
Someone who was supposed to be MJs friend has

His best buddy. The one who stood up for him in court.


Do this --- put pictures of his best buddy and MJs oldest son and daughter side by side.  Umm, coincidental that they look like him? 


Just compare the kids eyes and nose with MJs best buddie's.  Look up a family picture of his best bud's siblings all together when they were kids.  Put MJs kids next to it. 


Sorry, but there is a huge family resemblence there with MJs kids.  Especially MJs daughter looks just like his old friend's sister when she was a kid. Look of a pic of both of them at the same age and put them together.  Wow. 


Who am I talking about?  Remember his friend, Macaulay Culkin?   He's been aaaaawful quiet. I think Macaulay did his friend a BIG favor.  Wonder why he hasn't issued a statement yet? 


I'm just sayin.   


Poor animals!
A ''crate'' is just a nice term for a cage. How sad to cage a dog or cat.
You can only try. That is what we did with my son. His stuffed animals SM

were his worst nightmare allergy-wise. 


I've had dogs with dry skin, but never were they were that miserable.  I wonder if they make a doggie lotion that could help or if there is some type of herbal remedy like who knows what but some type of oil safe for doggie skin.


I have two black labs now and one puppy Yorkie.  My older black labs gets some dry skin on his belly, but nothing too bad.


Don't give up.  You'll find it!


All animals, pets or not are most definitely
.
Thanks for that one. Animals rule!
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What is it with old stinky animals!
My old dog and old horse really do "smell like old people."  They have a funk of their own when compared to the younger animals of same species, even though they are all completely healthy.  I think it's just what happens, the why's and how's though, I am completely clueless about.  I really have an especially soft spot for the ol' senior critters though. 

Animals in heaven? NM
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social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!

Have fun!
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .

I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .