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hih? truth? whose? Men who wrote Bibles?

Posted By: what science? very confused here...LOL..NM on 2007-07-30
In Reply to: it's simple Truth. Not complicated at all. - nm




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    We seek for the truth, our own personal truth. SM
    Not everyone is religious. ;)
    in every joke is a little truth and the truth in
    this 'joke'(?) is very sad.
    Next time try a little harder.
    Amen. Well said...whoever wrote this. thx. nm
    nm
    could have wrote you note but sm

    I have a daughter  that is a sophmore.Wamted this certain college.  Could not convince to stay in state.  It costs her 10,000 dollars more being out of state.  She goes from wanting to b there to not wanting to be there to liking it it to hating it It depends on what day you talk to her. Joined the band dropped out, had problem with boyfriend moved across the campus, than they started dating again, then he ends it. She gets upset wants to come home.  I get a phone call every night.  Everytime we decide to have her transfer or come home she decides to stay.  Has changed her major three times.  What worries me is she is on Student loans that she will be responsible to pay when she graduates. If she leaves college she will have to start paying immediately, where she would have 10 years if the stays in college.  This month she is already over 80 minutes on the cell phone and there is two weeks more to go.  She spends hours talking to the ex-boyfriend and they are on the same campus.  My husband and I are going to talk to a therapist about this because I want to do tough love.  Hang up when she calls crying at 11 p.m.  Telling her if she does not get her act together she will have no choice to leave etc.  He is the softy.   Nothing makes her happy. 


     


    By any chance is your son going to a college in New England. 


    Wrote down the info...thanks. nm
    !
    First off, I was very upset when I wrote

    the original post.  Sending my son to a boys' home is obviously a last resort.  I don't mean an orphanage or foster care.  I mean a facility that can help to retrain him if I can't.  I love my son very much.  I would rather suffer the pains and guilt of having to send him to a reformity, then to watch him grow up into someone who would hurt someone else and ruin the rest of his life.  I love all of my children equally. 


    Secondly, when I took my child to the child psychologist, I had several visits with him first to see if there was something I was doing wrong.  I continued to attend each session with my child, including private sessions for myself after his meeting with my son. 


    Thirdly, your comments were not helpful, just nasty, and that's not the kind of help I was looking for.  Anyone who's ever been in this situation already feels inadequate as a parent and doesn't need someone else to slam them.  Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to do just that.


    You must be my twin because you just wrote
    everything about me to a T!!! I've been in a quandry for quite some time about what I should do.
    I was one who wrote below about finding SM
    love after divorce. I believe there are good men out there, but they are hard to find, especially the older one gets. I think the key is letting him find you, but it doesn't mean you can't put yourself out there.

    OK. What I think about problem men have in marriages. I'm speaking about my own here. I was the only girl he ever dated. He asked me to marry him and I said yes. He knew it was mistake, but was devout Catholic and just stayed married, but decided he would still like to be single, so he began cheating on me. As for me, I loved him for a long, long time. When I see him at family events, I wonder why! LOL!!!!
    I have not read but others wrote yet but you just need to stop - sm
    you have done all you can do and have bent over backwards to help. Your guilt will be your downfall. I don't know how to tell you to stop feeling guilty, but you really have nothing to feel guilty about. You have done way too much for her and she has just taken advantage. She is 19 more than old enough to take care of herself. She wants to be homeless and can adapt as you say to any situation, then let her. I would just tell her the gravy train stops now and she has to learn how to take care of herself. Get some names of some shelters to give her, the YWCA, etc. and if she really wants to help herself she can start there but she is going to have to do it on her own now. If the worsed happens you know you have done all that one person can possibly do; but if she does not want to help herself (and it is obvious she does not) then there really is nothing you or anyone else can do. You need to steel yourself not to give in and basically cut off all contact until she proves w/o a doubt that she has cleaned up her act which will take at least 6 months if not more I would think. If you don't have caller ID then get it, otherwise let your answering machine answer all calls and just don't take hers or return her calls either. Good luck.
    That wife you wrote about sounds like me! LOL! SM
    I was married to a man who cheated for years. I was in total denial. After close to 30 years, I up and left. Best thing I ever did.

    Just want to acknowledge point that men don't leave. If they are in a long marriage, and have been getting away with cheating for a long time, AND there is a lot of money involved, what with houses, pensions, savings, etc., THEY DON'T LEAVE.

    I admire both your honesty. Good luck.
    just wrote a long reply`
    put stu@pid in it and it said I used bad language and to go back and it deleated my whole darn thing, will write back soon, behind in work, but have some comments to make later. Good to see you back Hayseed.
    No when I originally wrote the check

    The check was a voided check to Wal-Mart and the Loan company, CNH Capital, knew that and cashed it anyway.  I thought it was illegal for someone cash a check that did not belong to them. 


    I can't believe you just wrote it's not okay for your kids to make mistakes.
    "Just becuase UGU all forget things and make mistakes does not mean that my children need to be raised to think it's ok to do so."

    Good god, I hope I never meet you or anyone else with your twisted sense of right and wrong.
    no, nobody knows but the bank, they will cover checks you wrote
    nm
    Totally disagree with one thing you wrote. sm
    You Wrote:

    Yes, there are bad breeders, but there are far more good ones. In my 18 years in the cat fancy, I have seen some bad ones, *but the good ones far outweigh the bad.*

    If only that were true. *sigh* Maybe you're talking about in the show world. It probably is true there, but that is such a teeny, tiny part of the whole picture.

    In reality, outside of the show world, there are far, far, far more BAD 'breeders' out there, though I'm using the word 'breeder' loosely, to include backyard breeders (type that into Google if you're not familiar w/the term - I don't mean you, gd1, as I'm sure you know all about it!), puppy mills, and pet stores, and that is were the majority of the pet overpopulation problem comes from.

    I wish only the reputable, ethical 'show breeders' of dogs and cats were the only ones doing any breeding. If that were the case, there would be little to no problem, as they are the caretakers of their breeds and are concerned with bettering the breed, only breeding animals with excellent health, conformation, and temperament - not just $$$ by cranking out puppies/kittens, or letting their dog/cat have a litter for the kids to see or because 'everyone wants one of her puppies/kittens!' or whatever.

    I don't know if mandatory spaying/neutering is the answer or not. I do know it's being seriously considered in my state (CA), and there would be exceptions for hobby/show breeders, breeders of service dogs, search and rescue dogs, etc.

    But I have a feeling people would find some way around it, and I imagine disreputable people (gag) in neighboring states would start to crank up 'production' if there were any kind of 'shortage' here. Makes me ill...

    I also don't know how mandatory spay/neut. could be enforced. Animal control here (huge county) admitted on the news that only about 25% of pets are licensed.

    I think I'm in favor of it, overall though, at least to give it a try and with exceptions available for *some* breeders, as I mentioned above.

    I did breed rescue for 6 years, and I've been to more shelters and seen more animals there than I care to recall. It's absolutely sickening the number of perfectly nice animals destroyed, simply for lack of a home. A shocking number (about 25-30%) are young, healthy purebreds that cost the original owner a pretty penny, so even that doesn't guarantee a home.


    The poster wrote 4 sentences on an MT forum.
    You don't know her, can't judge her. This place is getting so catty and ridiculous.
    You did your rant, laughed your ___ off and wrote off your Mom and Grandmom!
    You have a lot to learn. When they are dead, you will realize it didn't really mean a thing except that you "wrote them off" and laughed your A@@ off at any suggestion that you should make peace with your Mom at Christmas. You only have one Mom, you came from her loins, no one else's. Too bad you can't realize how wrong you are to judge. No one said you have to see her every day but she's a human being and human beings make mistakes. Glad you are perfect and your kid is perfect. Hope you always remain "perfect." Merry Christmas! Sounds like you have a lot of people backing you up, so you think you're right in ditching your Mom and Grandmom. People in my family have done horrible things to me but I rise above it, send them a Christmas card and wish them a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year. I am not God.  Perhaps you don't see your Mom's tears, but believe me, one day you will be sorry and it will be too late. Get a heart! You are telling your son in effect, "These are bad people, write them off!" Bad advice methinks. You are hearing only what you want to hear, so go ahead and laugh your a@@ off if it makes you happy. Watch out you are not that "Mom" one day, you've set the scene and have written the script, to "write Moms off."
    Obviously a man wrote that Good Wife Guide - sm
    Boy that thing is amazing, hard to believe that that is how people thought and behaved back then, Stepford wives. Guess some men were sad when women finally woke up and smelled the coffee. ---I only remember a couple things though, but I was born in 1965--- drive-in movies and the metal ice trays, rabbit ears, the star/sun ray clock, and we had an old metal Pepsi cooler which had my dad kept would probably be worth a small fortune now.
    If you exercised your right to vote and wrote to your congressmen/women,

    passive people just sit back ,allow bad things happening, and then whine about it, while aggressive people actually DO SOMETHING about matters they disagree with.


    Mitch Alboum wrote a book about this called

    Boy, Hayseed..you just wrote my story..Today, it occured to me...
    I'm going nuts doing this job. The longer I sit here every day the fruit-ier I am getting.  I have to force myself to leave the house and when I get out there I have panic attacks. I'm freaked out by traffic, freaked out by too many people and I just want to run home and put my sweats back on. A few days ago was the topper, and it was at that point, that I started getting on the job search for a job OUTSIDE of home. Isolation is NOT good.  My husband had just made dinner, we ate, then I went back to my office for about an hour, and I irritatingly came out of my office to ask my husband why he hadn't decided yet what he wanted for dinner as it was getting late. He looked at me with that WHAT THE BLEEP BLEEP!!! and I just knew it was time to get AWAY from the computer and socialize with real people. I truly feel this is NOT healthy. I have started wierding myself out by some of the stuff I'm doing. I have even started forgetting people's names and numbers that I swore I would never forget...AND I refuse to believe I'm getting older or that I have Alzheimers. It's something much deeper..WORK..LOL..Well, it's late and I need to get back to work so I can keep losing my mind..See ya.
    I wrote my local buffalo rock and they told me a
    I will look for your Folger's Instant Straight up tomorrow when I go!
    I wrote a $10 check to Wal-Mart and turned in to a $40 mistake so far.

    Here is what happened.  When you write a check at this Wal-Mart here, they have you sign something and give the check back.   I stuck it back in my purse.  They are supposed to void.  I was cleaning at my purse that day and paying bills at the same time.  I wrote a $250 to pay a loan.   I really don't know how it happened but I must have torn that one up and sent the $10 voided check to the loan.  A week later, i was looking at my acct online.  I notice that that $10 I had written to Wal-Mart went through twice.  I called the bank and asked why.   They said, "oh, it looks like Wal-Mart double dipped." so I was refunded the money.  I don't know who refunded the money, was it the bank, Wal-mart, I don't know.  Anyway, I became concerned about why that 250 check didn't come in so I called that loan company.  They said $10 was credit to my acct.   I did not connect the 2 at the time.  I thought, 10, I don't write $10 to this acct.  The man told me he would look into it incase there was a mistake.  He called back the day later and said that was a  $10 originally written to Wal-Mart and we cashed it.  So I called the bank and told them.  They then had me go to wal-mart because they said I owed them $10 back.  I go to wal-mart and they say no it is the Telecheck, company they use for this service and they thanked me for trying to clear it up and said Telecheck will be contacting me.  So I get a letter in the mail saying I owe $40 plus I am not allowed to write checks anywhere that uses their service until I pay that $40 back. 


    What scares me is that that check said VOID on it and that other bunch was still able to cash it and get their money, which I think was dishonest of them...also my bank let it go through.  Now what if I were to loose a bunch of those type checks and someone cashes it AGAIN.  Man I would be out a lot.  Do you think any of this is right?  TIA.   


    Sorry, I was upset at the time I wrote the original post
    Basically, I sent a voided Wal-Mart check to a creditor by mistake and they cashed it and the bank let it go through both times.  I called them on it.  I was thinking that someone must have found that check and cashed it again.  At the time, I did not realize my mistake.  They then cancelled the payment to Wal-Mart, don't know why, and now Wal-Mart is treating it like I wrote a hot check.  They added $30 to the original amount. 
    I read all the comments and I agree with the poster who wrote
    'One has to teach people how to treat you' and one has to tell people what is imoportant to oneself.

    It is inexcusable not to call or meet one's mother for mother's day and Christmas, etc.....

    A cute little article/story my husband just wrote that I wanted to share!

    Layoffs in the North Pole


     


    Story by Bill Perkins


     


     


    In a press release this morning Santa Claus announced the layoff of nearly 800,000 elf employees. The announcement was completely unexpected despite the current economic situation.


     


    Due to the failing economy, and many companies cutting costs wherever they can, including advertising, Mr. Claus has lost several endorsement jobs.


     


    Mr. Claus is seeking government aid, requesting his own bailout package from several different governments. However, he is meeting a great deal of resistance. Many toymakers and distributors, namely Walmart, Playskool, and the Chinese government, are lobbying against the bailout. They say Santa's "Free Toy for Every Child" program is a seasonal monopoly, and it generally takes four months to recover the losses sustained from his "good deeds."


     


    Children across the globe will feel the impact this Christmas, particularly the naughty ones. Traditionally, naughty children receive lumps of coal from Santa on Christmas. Mr. Claus has no coal to give, though, as it was part of the elves' severance packages. It is Santa's hope that it will at least be enough to keep his former employees warm through the winter.


     


    When asked if there was any hope of the elves returning to work next year, Santa replied, "It doesn't look very promising. The elves are like family to me; I love them all very dearly. Unfortunately, illegal immigrants work for a lot less, and I don't have to provide benefits, so that's probably what I'll have to do. It was a difficult decision to make, but it's necessary if I want to keep the business in operation."


     


    The elves aren't the only ones hurting. The reindeer are suffering a great deal more. Mr. Claus has had to auction off much of his breeding stock just to stay operational until Christmas Eve. (See related story on page 5, "McDonald's Debuts new Christmas Menu.) It is questionable at this point how much longer Santa will be able to make his annual flight.


     


    Could this be the beginning of the end of Santa Claus? Only time will tell for sure.


    Just tell her the truth -
    That you do not feel what she does is worth $60 at this point and feel as if she is rushing you out of the chair. She may reconsider her pricing if you have been a loyal customer. That puts the ball in her court. Be ready to find someone else.
    Ain't THAT the truth! LOL nm
    *
    It's the truth because God said it? sm

    But how do you know God (or Jesus) said it?  Everything He's supposed to have said has been *interpreted* by mankind, then *translated* from another language, to another language, etc., and influenced by the *politics,* leaders, and culture of the day... how many thousands of years ago?  There are bound to be things lost in translation, misunderstood, misinterpreted (misquoted!). 


    I'm just saying, it's all been subject to man's interpretation of it (and still is to this day).  It can't all be taken literally (though some people do which is incomprehensible to me). 


    I think in many ways the bible is a beautiful piece of literature, but I also think much of it is fiction. 


    You can count me among those who are spiritual but not religious (esp. organized religion, whoo boy!), and this is just one reason why. 


    Interesting topic. 


    now, isn't THAT the truth.....

    Truth is ...
    He is being really selfish, and if he ever found a woman who liked that lifestyle, he probably wouldn't like her all that much!

    I have an ex-husband who turned our yard into a junk yard and spent his free time fixing other people's things while our place went to heck.

    I know how you feel! Good luck.
    Nothing else taken with this- a lie or truth?
    and eat pecans frequently. I thought perhaps someone from New Orleans could perhaps use some kind of (now this really sounds odd) peppers added that I would normally not use in a pie such as this. This is a new housekeeper and she comes this Friday- I am gonna hate to have her ask how was the pie..Hubby believes in telling a little white lie- I am for telling her what happened to me. She has gone into a catering business. What to do - tell little white lie or the truth?
    DEFINITELY tell the truth!
    My gosh if this was definitely from the pie and I was the one baking/selling them I would want to know...potential lawsuits, etc. YUCK! Can't hurt to ask her what was in it that might have effected you that way...just maybe say you are worried about a nut allergy but wanted to be sure of all of the ingredients before you got tested for it. I see your point that you were wondering about the spice or something...makes sense now...maybe it was a different type of flour in the crust, who knows...I would definitely tell her so she can evaluate what she has done different at least in that pie.
    The truth would be my way
    husband is a milk toast type of guy and does not like to rock the boat so to speak. I had nothing else with the pie last evening and noticed I had a funny after taste, such as a, not really burning but strange, thought undertone if that applies in this case. Last night hunting the Benadryl thought if something like peppers they use in New Orleans and I was not used to them. I eat regular pecan pie and this was no where close to what I have had all these years.
    Ain't that the truth!!!
    If she's that mature, she should have tried the best birth control, which is not having sex at all!!! 
    Probably the truth is that if they don't

    come around, they have a little peace.  Every encounter with their mother is going to ruffle her feathers and freak her out.  You are a cold, cold woman.  Hopefully they are getting some acceptance from their in-laws, if you haven't screwed them up enough to wreck their marriages too. 


    How about you tell the person you are talking long distance to, "I'm sorry, my daughter is calling, I have to go."  Where are your priorities?


    i don't know how much truth there is to this
    that we will have to claim that money from the rebate on our 2008 taxes; that if it was a REFUND, that would be different. anyone know anything about this? same thing happened with our property taxes "rebate"... have to claim that.... doesn't really shock me though
    It is most always better to tell the truth
    Especially if they are your friends. If they really are then they will understand, but if they find out you lied to them they will eventually loose all respect for you.

    This is a lesson I've been trying to teach my daughter for years.....hasn't worked yet, but she doesn't have many friends either.
    I think there is some truth to this
    If a young man is very close to his mother, and he looks to her as an example for what women are like, then yes it is possible they look for a girl like Mom, especially if she is a good cook. However, my daughter told my son that the June Cleaver's, from Leave it To Beaver, are about gone, and the girls from this generation are very different. My son was used to my keeping my house clean, having meals at the dinner table at night, chauffering them to their activities, staying up at night and helping with school projects, working 2 jobs to make ends meet, and being a single parent, and I raised my sons and daughters to think that a job was not a dirty word and they needed to help out too.

    It is funny though that the girl that my son married is similar in appearance to me, but she does not cook, nor does she clean, but she is a good mother and manager of their finances. My son said the other day that he longs for a home-cooked meal at anytime, and wishes I lived closer, although he has gotten to be a good cook.
    Ain't that the truth....
    There is no such thing as a cheap horse either, especially in California--what is hay running there now, anyway? Was pricey when I left 3 years ago, so I bet it is much higher now.
    Boy, isn't that the truth.

    I used to think people who made a point of organic this or that and organic cleaning products were a little kooky.   Not so much any more. I built a greenhouse with money I inherited from my mom last year so I can grow my own food and not pay $15 a pound for organic anything at Whole Foods. 


    If we truly looked at the FDA "allowables" as to what is allowed in mass produced food, I think we'd all turn a little green.


    Ain't that the truth, Sylvia?!?!?!!!!

    Ain't that the truth! That ought to be regulated too :)
    x
    Just from experience and just the truth
    NM
    When they ask, tell them the truth. There is a reason they are asking. nm
    x
    I think they are the ones posting truth about ESL &
    x
    You want the truth or a little white lie?
    I ate 3 great big peppers and that is the truth. No one else here, hubs told me he does not like. I usually do not cook but decided I wanted some and got all my ingredients together and they were really, really good. Double burp....
    I think there might be a nugget of truth there....
    Or at least there's something reminiscent.

    Not long after DH and I got married, he stood in the bedroom door and just laughed and laughed at me (but in a good way, you could hear the love). Turned out I was sitting up in bed, watching TV, reading and nibbling on a snack — just like his mother did.

    (He also laughs at me and the girls when we remind him of my mother.)

    maybe she is telling the truth
    would you scare kids with that???? There are certain things that should not be discussed with children.
    Wow - did you ever tell the truth in that post!! nm
    x
    When to tell your kids the truth ...

    So, if you made mistakes in the past, do you tell your kids what you did and still tell them why they shouldn't?


    I am inclined to tell my kids the truth about my past mistakes with drinking, sex, etc.  I don't think I have a sordid past, but I could have made better decisions.  I am not naive to think this might change the way my kids think about me, but if presented in the right context maybe I could pass my life experience on.


    What do you think?  Would you keep your bad decisions to yourself or let it all out?