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that's true but back then we had no prez selling us....

Posted By: selling us out to other 3rd world countries..nm on 2006-11-05
In Reply to: Ah but most of us learned the language! lol - nm




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A true surrogate is not selling a baby - sm
the woman would be carrying someone else's biological child, most likely because they are not able to physically carry a child for whatever reason. In that case I would have no problem with it. Obviously women who also supply the egg as well as the womb, that is a totally different scenario. I had a friend that considered it, and I believe had I known about selling of eggs I would have done that before I was too old....by the time I heard of that I was 32 and too old and married at that point. But I think I would have seriously considered it in my 20s had I known about it, my life would have turned out a lot differently then I believe--but then I would not have the two great kids I have now which I would not have missed for anything. Everything happens for a reason.
very true, I remember back in ྏ our rings - sm
were about $80 and that was just a base metal ring. The gold ones were $250 or $350, cannot quite remember, just remember parents said forget it for gold. Later one after I got my BFA in metals, I went and gold-plated it myself with my own equipment, looks just as nice as the pure gold ones (still). I don't have to worry about this yet for about 9 years......sure they will go fast.
The news does tend to be bad, true. Put your head back in the sand then.
However, see if you can stomach this....2 yr old toddler disappears for a month as her mother appears to party like a 22 year old with no children by the camera's eye. When grandma finally realizes something is amiss upon discovering her daughters abandoned car with the smell of decomposing human tissue in the trunk, the 911 calls begin. Casey Anthony is a deeply disturbed young woman who by all appearances seems to have done away with her beautiful little girl by means of a shovel and gasoline. The truly unfortunate person here is the child, Caylee, whose mother is a monster.
oh but you'd rather have a non-elected prez

     


and whose father has been sleeping with the Saudis for 60 years? 


     


like another poster said, clinton lied, nobody died from his lie...


bush lies, many die(d)............................


PUHLEEZE take your political stories to the politics board at MTStars.....


 


    


prez is now promoting
be careful of scams!
Where are YOU getting your "facts" from? And since when is B.O. the bloodiest prez?!?
nm
I DIDN'T VOTE FOR BUSH. he is a horrible prez
anybody that puts their religion into their campaign that much is bound to try to force their views on us once in office. I don't think ANYBODY of any religion should do that. I hate to say it, but McCain has done his campainging very well, very tactful.
here's the list...it would be great if this country were ready for a female or black prez...
but it just ain't gonna happen.  Daughter of a politician (so I know how it rolls)    Cat   

 



























































































































































































































































































































































































































































  Name and (party)1 Term State of
birth
Born Died Religion2 Age at
inaug.
Age at
death
1. Washington (F)3 1789–1797   Va. 2/22/1732 12/14/1799 Episcopalian 57 67
2. J. Adams (F) 1797–1801 Mass. 10/30/1735 7/4/1826 Unitarian 61 90
3. Jefferson (DR) 1801–1809 Va. 4/13/1743 7/4/1826 Deist 57 83
4. Madison (DR) 1809–1817 Va. 3/16/1751 6/28/1836 Episcopalian 57 85
5. Monroe (DR) 1817–1825 Va. 4/28/1758 7/4/1831 Episcopalian 58 73
6. J. Q. Adams (DR) 1825–1829 Mass. 7/11/1767 2/23/1848 Unitarian 57 80
7. Jackson (D) 1829–1837 S.C. 3/15/1767 6/8/1845 Presbyterian 61 78
8. Van Buren (D) 1837–1841 N.Y. 12/5/1782 7/24/1862 Reformed Dutch 54 79
9. W. H. Harrison (W)4 1841 Va. 2/9/1773 4/4/1841 Episcopalian 68 68
10. Tyler (W) 1841–1845 Va. 3/29/1790 1/18/1862 Episcopalian 51 71
11. Polk (D) 1845–1849 N.C. 11/2/1795 6/15/1849 Methodist 49 53
12. Taylor (W)4 1849–1850 Va. 11/24/1784 7/9/1850 Episcopalian 64 65
13. Fillmore (W) 1850–1853 N.Y. 1/7/1800 3/8/1874 Unitarian 50 74
14. Pierce (D) 1853–1857 N.H. 11/23/1804 10/8/1869 Episcopalian 48 64
15. Buchanan (D) 1857–1861 Pa. 4/23/1791 6/1/1868 Presbyterian 65 77
16. Lincoln (R)5 1861–1865 Ky. 2/12/1809 4/15/1865 Liberal 52 56
17. A. Johnson (U)6 1865–1869 N.C. 12/29/1808 7/31/1875 (7) 56 66
18. Grant (R) 1869–1877 Ohio 4/27/1822 7/23/1885 Methodist 46 63
19. Hayes (R) 1877–1881 Ohio 10/4/1822 1/17/1893 Methodist 54 70
20. Garfield (R)5 1881 Ohio 11/19/1831 9/19/1881 Disciples of Christ 49 49
21. Arthur (R) 1881–1885 Vt. 10/5/1829 11/18/1886 Episcopalian 50 56
22. Cleveland (D) 1885–1889 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 47 71
23. B. Harrison (R) 1889–1893 Ohio 8/20/1833 3/13/1901 Presbyterian 55 67
24. Cleveland (D)8 1893–1897 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 55 71
25. McKinley (R)5 1897–1901 Ohio 1/29/1843 9/14/1901 Methodist 54 58
26. T. Roosevelt (R) 1901–1909 N.Y. 10/27/1858 1/6/1919 Reformed Dutch 42 60
27. Taft (R) 1909–1913 Ohio 9/15/1857 3/8/1930 Unitarian 51 72
28. Wilson (D) 1913–1921 Va. 12/28/1856 2/3/1924 Presbyterian 56 67
29. Harding (R)4 1921–1923 Ohio 11/2/1865 8/2/1923 Baptist 55 57
30. Coolidge (R) 1923–1929 Vt. 7/4/1872 1/5/1933 Congregationalist 51 60
31. Hoover (R) 1929–1933 Iowa 8/10/1874 10/20/1964 Quaker 54 90
32. F. D. Roosevelt (D)4 1933–1945 N.Y. 1/30/1882 4/12/1945 Episcopalian 51 63
33. Truman (D) 1945–1953 Mo. 5/8/1884 12/26/1972 Baptist 60 88
34. Eisenhower (R) 1953–1961 Tex. 10/14/1890 3/28/1969 Presbyterian 62 78
35. Kennedy (D)5 1961–1963 Mass. 5/29/1917 11/22/1963 Roman Catholic 43 46
36. L. B. Johnson (D) 1963–1969 Tex. 8/27/1908 1/22/1973 Disciples of Christ 55 64
37. Nixon (R)9 1969–1974 Calif. 1/9/1913 4/22/1994 Quaker 56 81
38. Ford (R) 1974–1977 Neb. 7/14/1913 12/26/2006 Episcopalian 61
39. Carter (D) 1977–1981 Ga. 10/1/1924 Southern Baptist 52
40. Reagan (R) 1981–1989 Ill. 2/6/1911 6/5/2004 Disciples of Christ 69 93
41. G.H.W. Bush (R) 1989–1993 Mass. 6/12/1924 Episcopalian 64
42. Clinton (D) 1993–2001 Ark. 8/19/1946 Baptist 46
43. G. W. Bush (R) 2001– Conn. 7/6/46 Methodist 54

Site for selling Giftcards?
Does anyone know of a popular site shopping enthusiasts go to purchase giftcards?
I think he did it wrong; even if you are selling a house - sm
or property yourself; any downpayment money is to be put in escrow for the closing. If his buyer had backed out due to a problem with the house (like an undisclosed problem; or a found problem) then he would have had to come back up with their deposit money and refunded them; and if he had already spent it he would have been in a difficult position to come up with the funds. Escrow protects not only the buyer but the seller as well. As for the 10% I have never heard of such a high commission; we did 7 when we sold our house (the standard is 6%) only because my DH knew the realtor (old school friend) and to give him some incentive to sell our house quickly; unfortunately that did not work as it took us 9 months to sell our house (at a loss) which doubled in value about 6 months after we sold it, talk about the unpredictable real estate market.
Selling house, how much taxes will I owe?
Never lived at this property, got in my name about 6 years ago, never had it appraised, the person living there before also did not. My question is how much will I owe on taxes, say on a percentage basis, according to what it sells for? How do I go about figuring this out? Thanks.
I remember selling them for 35 cents.
Then the year they went up to 50 cents I had to explain to all my neighbors why the price went up.

One year my mom was in charge of ordering and receiving all the cookies for our troop. Our living room was floor to ceiling brown boxes of cookies. What a lot of work to divide all those into each girl's order. My mom said "never again". Ah, memories!
People there are already being tricked into selling their organs (sm)
Did you see that special recently? They are promised a lot of money - which they really need - especially single women there - and they end up getting measly amounts for selling a kidney...it's very sad that people are that desperate for money. We are very fortunate here and need to remember that.
Central WA - 4.09 a gallon. I'm selling my SUV! Anyone interested?

Selling things other than MT equipment,books etc

Does anyone ever post things to sell/trade other than MT items on this site (in the classified)?  I am a wah MT and I am looking at reaching out to some wah MT's who scrapbook as a hobby and would be interested in joining a hostess club I am setting up.  I already have some people signed up and just looking for a few more.  I am on the MB for the cricut website, but trying to reach out to other MT's who like this as well.


Thanks for your help.


Mega-mother selling her story
Well, today we find out the mega mother of all mothers wants to sell her story for 2 million. Talk shows, baby expert and all offers are being looked at to "tell her story" according to her spokesperson. I am hearing from this person she is very balanced, very happy about all 14. If she tells her story, maybe that will open up new pathways for others to strive for more than 8 at a time. Just think about the possibilities!
seeking advice on selling used items like
nm
Since you're selling the house, I would not go with claw foot
I think the claw foot style appeals only to a certain market, and you want to appeal to as wide a group of potential house buyers as possible. If the claw foot tub is really what you want to live with, then save that style for the house you build for yourselves.

I grew up in an old home with two claw foot tubs. They were huge and comfy, but you have to clean behind them, under then and all around them. Since I was the youngest and smallest, that was my assigned job. Ugh.

We've lived in our current home for 23 years and expect to live here until we die. The house was built in 1915, and we have an enormous tub that was installed in 1922. I love it because it's sleek and built into an alcove. At one point my husband was really bent on ripping it out and putting a claw foot tub in there, saying it would look more authentic. Well, this baby IS authentic. It reminds me of a moving train. It's porcelain over cast iron, and it's not going anywhere. We've had it refinished, and it's beautiful and so lovely to soak in.

My point is, you can look for something along the lines of art deco/noveau which has the classic, stylized, and even sort of old-fashioned look, but still appeals to modern taste as well. (And no cleaning underneath!)
I'm sure a lot of people at the hospital are selling these types of stories
to the tabloid shows and the tabloids. Unfortunately, stories like this sell. Yes, whoever the source is should be fired.
Talk about dating yourself? I remember selling them for 0.75 cents! (nm)
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Not originally from the south, so imagine my surprise when I saw them selling - sm
Cracklin at a roadside stand!  It was cooking in a huge pot of grease.  I thought I might faint from the smell - beyond description.  Then I noticed it being sold packaged in grocery stores with all kinds of flavorings added.  I cannot recall seeing cracklin sold in the other parts of the country I have lived, but maybe I just never noticed.  All I know is I cannot even stand to look at the bags while waiting to check out at the register.  YUCK!!
Me, too. I never agree with popular opinion. Same with best-selling books and/or TV shows. nm
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LOST, also Project Runway, Grey's Anatomy, various HGTV home buying/selling shows
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Then they can get right back on their tires and rafts and float on back to Cuba! nm
nm
Back-to-back black swans that look like (sm)
a giant moustache. My MIL painted it for us and put our last name on it and my DH nailed it to an outside storage room door. It looks ridiculous, and when the kids have other kids over they always ask why we have a giant moustache on our door!
Hayseed was back a few weeks back
But we haven't heard from her since. I miss her too. I hope she's doing okay.
No way this is true... sm
my husband is Aries and has never had an accident in his 34 years of driving. My brother-in-law is also an Aries and he's never had a wreck in 28 years of driving.
Very true,
I just do not want to hurt my husband or hurt our marriage. I have been doing a lot of praying about the situation and I am not going to let him ruin our holiday. If I have to not go around him I will just not go around him. Thanks again for all the replies, God Bless and Merry Christmas
very true
But if you limit to under 20 gm for 2 weeks you will loose those bread cravings and sugar cravings. After that you have to slowly put them back in (the right ones fruits and veggies)and test at what level you will still loose weight. Adkins...But it you go overboard and cut them out for good will end ya in the hospital with kidney failure. Otherwise Adkins is a great program...2 weeks and the cravings end, amazing. I mark a start and end point for the 2 weeks on the calander and x out each day because to start it is brutal. As long as I can seen an end in site I'm ok. I lost 40 pounds on it 2 years ago and they put me back on meds to manage chronic pain and it went right back on, now I am learning to manage both. Bad back and extra weight are not a good combination.
according to what or who is this true?
reincarnation maybe? 
So true!
You are so right--wish more had your compassion! There should be a ''Golden Rule'' for animals!
True but if you think about it -
helping someone to help themselves to not be a drain on taxpayers is NEVER a bad idea.

I was a single mother at 18. I had no one to depend on and couldn't get welfare. It was a long struggle but I did it and I did it on my own. Not everyone can.
So true.
uio
LOL true!
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That's not true
They will remove that money from your account unless they have some sort of overdraft protection that prevents it from bouncing. But if the check bounces, they will take the money from you. That is why at stores, they always have signs saying you will be charged a $25 fee for a returned check - because that money was taken away from them.

I had a $300 check that was given to me bounce and they took that $300 away from me - that was a mess!!!
Not true
My parents have been happily married for 45 years and in my entire childhood I remember them having 1 fight.

This is not to say a man is necessary for happiness. I personally have never married, am still single (and happy) at age 41. But I know its possible to find someone like that--in the meantime, I am happy with my life and will never "settle" for less just to have a man.
Very true (sm)
No woman should ever need to be dependent on a man to survive, ditto for men being dependent on a woman. Everyone should be self-sufficient in life.

Please teach your children, male and female, to learn a trade or a career that will allow them to support themselves. Please teach them to establish their own credit rating. Teach them to live beneath their means. Teach them self-respect and morals. Teach them to be self-reliant and independent. If they have the fortune of finding a wonderful man or woman, they are blessed as will be their children. If that wonderful man or woman turns out to be Satan in human form, they will possess the right strengths to handle the situation. If the wonderful man or woman drops dead long before their time they will at least have the knowledge and ability to support themselves and/or children.

There are wonderful men and women out there. You usually don't find them in bars. It takes more than 6 months to determine if they are worthy of you. Don't "settle". We are all responsible for our choices and hopefully learn by our mistakes.

To the women on this board who think they can't leave their husbands because they don't have the financial resources, please consider if staying is worth the lesson your children are learning in how to treat a wife. If that husband dropped dead right now, what's the difference? A life insurance policy? You will find a way to survive. No child deserves to grow up in a battlefield. Stop the cycle of abuse by teaching your children that being abused, whether physically or mentally, is never acceptable. Standing up for yourself so you can stand up for your children. Teach your children strength in by doing what is right, whether it is seeking counseling and/or leaving a bad marriage.

The woman that started this thread was so right in saying that when you hit middle age and beyond, you will be astounded at where life went and why you didn't make it better when it mattered most. Listen to your elders!

I decided to leave a bad marriage after 13 years. My husband had pulled "the last straw" and I told him I was leaving without batting an eyelash. On the inside I was in a complete wreck. Didn't know where I would go, how I would survive, but bad husband be damned, there was no way on this planet I was going to let my son grow up in that environment. I gave up all the comforts, the fancy home, the new cars, the vacations, etc. I'd do it again in a NY minute and I don't miss it in the least. NOTHING is worth compromising your sanity and your children's identity.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." - Eleanor Roosevelt
That's true, too.
I am sure now that I have invited her to email me we will do just that. That, of course, does not mean that we can't or won't use this board too, probably just not as much. I have only been speaking with this person for many a week, it's not like we have tied up the board for months. I know what you are saying, and frankly I have thought of that, too. It is annoying to us to be put down for just being friends. People who love their animals can't say enough about it, and that way it would be totally private and we can talk the whole DOGgone day or night. How about it, Me2, give me your opinion.
How very, very true!
Reading that just took me back twenty-five years! At the point where he asked me not to tell the cast members in his play who I was because they didn't know he was married (and I actually complied!)I knew it was either get out or commit suicide. I made the sane choice.
Is it really true?
Reading a great little book called "Food Pets Die For" I learned that the recent epidemic of pet deaths forcing recall of nearly a hundred brands of poisonous commercial pet food is only the "tip of the iceberg". Is it true that ground up roadkill, diseased pet carcasses, and slaughterhouse waste, mixed with grain unfit for human consumption and laced with synthetic preservatives, is considered a healthy diet for people's beloved pets by most veterinarians? If not, then why do so many vet offices sell the stuff?
Yes, it's true

I've heard the Wal-Mart brands are the worst (like Old Roy).


I have to feed my dog a special dog food I get from the vet for dogs with kidney and bladder problems because he gets bladder stones. Hill Science Diet makes it.


I also get regular boneless chicken breasts from the grocery store, usually about 10 pounds at a time, cook them up in the crock pot (I have a 5-6 quart crock pot), put them into plastic bowls and freeze them. Since he is a small dog, that makes enough food for his "supper" for a month or more. I usually try to catch sales for $1.99 a pound (sometimes $1.49 a pound). That's only $20 for a month's worth of food that you know is at least reasonably healthy.


Very true
My friend goes to garage sales every weekend. She collects antiques and picks up things at sales that people have no idea how much they're worth and she buys them for close to nothing and finds out they're work hundreds of dollars.
That might be true but
a person working at the jail, prison, etc., etc. is not allowed to give out that information about a person. Right?
True
So true....I guess I worded the message wrong....just trying to say she did right thing by going home to her family....leaving the past for what it was.....
so true

In our state they had instituted a program called "young 5's", which was basically a year of pre-K where they did the exact same cirriculum as K.  I saw no point in it as my child was K ready, so I insisted they just go ahead and put him in Kidnergarten.  His teacher kept hassling me about it during conferences.  She was an old battle-ax that insisted she knew better than me and he belonged in pre-K.  She couldn't give any reason other than "emotionally immature" (what 5 year old isn't?).  She informed me that sooner or later, he'd be held back a year because of my arrogance about his ability and pushing him into something he wasn't ready for - SHE knew, SHE had been in the business a long time and SHE was the expert.


He started high school this year at the age of 13 (he'll be 14 next month), and still hasn't been held back a grade due to "emotional immaturity" - in fact he's doing just fine.  I think when he graduates I'm going to track her down and rub her face in his diploma - I'm still peeved at her after all this time for trying to bully me into keeping him back a year .


This is true...
And I did think about that. Like I said, I'm happy with the bonus, just not about the danged taxes...
Sad, but true . . .
that during the holidays there can be so much pain. There are millions of families hurting right now, and the holidays just make it more painful. We have the image that this is supposed to be about family, togetherness, and all is well.

I too have an unstable family, and it can get pretty painful, if I let it. I am the oldest with 6 sisters, and most of them do not include me in the holidays. I could go on and on, but the bottom line is this:

You cannot force anybody to change. You cannot force your family to have a relationship with you, and most of all, you must take the focus off about who did what to who, and bring it back to center in yourself. The more you disconnect from the chaos within the family, and focus on your center - that part of your being that is whole, loving, at peace, and connected with the real meaning of Christmas, the better you move in the right direction. I know it's hard, very hard, but look to someone who has accomplished this and is a model for you. Take the best of who you are, and show your granddaughter what family love is about. You can have a wonderful time with her, and those who choose to be a willing part of your life. Family is not always about blood relations. Family are those who uphold you, who share your values and beliefs, and who are able to express love willingly, and in a healthy manner. It is better to be in a stable environment that is mentally,emotionally and spiritually healthy, than to be in an environment with tension, anxiety, and pain.

I too am learning the hard way. I have six sisters who are totally chaotic, and cannot get together in the same room because some have so much bitterness and hate. I learned that I cannot be the catalyst for holding the family together. I tried that, and all that happened is I got kicked out of the family for being what my sisters says is judgemental. So be it.

There are many supportive groups around the holidays that can help you cope. Look in your community services, churches, and support groups. I am going to Al-Anon for the holidays to cope with my family of origin issues.

In the meantime, keep your chin up, and give that child a loving holiday. My prayers are with you.
That's not true
Please don't throw out information unless you know for sure.
So true! nm
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Very true.
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Its true

The majority are expected (and actually counted on) not to think, to focus on themselves and only what's beneath their very noses, the acquisition of products nobody truly needs, and fluff entertainment only, and not take an interest in any real issues. 


The government and media expect, and actually think they need, people to stay shallow, uniformed, marginally educated, and childishly willing to be led wherever "authority" tells them to go as long as it sounds good.


Perfect example of this is the housing crisis.  People were told by "professional experts" they could afford too much house, and that they could always refinance, so they signed for it.  They didn't bother to question or think, and now are up a creek.


Many people are lazy and don't want to think too hard.  They don't want to take responsibility for themselves, much less responsibility for issues affecting others, their country, or their world.  They learn to care about MS Spears by staring blankly at the tube, and whatever they see there often will be what they are interested in and care about.  They'll only touch a newspaper to find a sale or a job, a magazine for the pretty pictures and short, breezy tales that don't strain their attention span.  And books - if you can get them to touch one - only for entertainment, and not too thick, please!


We are being trained to be like this.  We are letting ourselves be trained.  We are letting our children be trained.  You are not crazy.  It is the truth.