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A gross line is any line with typewritten characters on it - no matter how long or SM

Posted By: Tinks on 2007-01-10
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how short.  So your gross lines may be longer than 65 characters, but you get credit even for a line as short as "Sincerely,".  If your gross lines are not being counted that way, then you are not being counted on gross lines and are probably getting screwed.  I'd look into that if I were you.

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    A gross line IS a gross line regardless if it's 90 characters long or 1 character long... SM

    I'm very sorry that your lines are 90 characters line and you get paid by gross lines.  You are cheating yourself - that's not my fault.  You cannot change the definition of a gross line.  So I gues I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.  Now if you are trying to say that your line equals 90 characters and that's how you figure your lines, than you are not using gross lines.  You have defined a line to be 90 characters, whereas most MTSOs define a line as 65 characters.  If that is the case, then I must say again, you are cheating yourself.

    So which is it, do you get paid by gross lines or by a 90 character line?

    A gross line is anything on a line is a line. A line set at 65 characters means it sm
    has 1-inch margins on each side. The maximum number of characters on that line would be 65 and that includes spaces. If there is 1 character on that line it is a line.

    A standard 65-character line usually consists of 65 characters with spaces unless, of course, the employer does not pay for spaces and then it would be 65-characters without spaces.
    A gross line is any amount of characters on a line

    for instance...





    A 65 character line without spaces is black marks on the page only and 65 w/spaces is everything... tabs, spaces, numbers, letters, bold, etc.



    65 characters constitues a line, no matter where
    they are arranged on the page. You'd count all the characters (and spaces, if they are included in the count) in the document and divide by 65...that's the number of lines.

    Hope that helps!
    So gross = no matter how much is on the line?

    So if there is 1 character or 200 you still get 7 cents for that line?

    That's interesting, never heard of pay like that.

    Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
    Gross line means anything on a line is counted as a line.

    You can get an idea in the difference using documents you have already created, assuming you're working in Word. Simply open a document and check the properties. Click on the statistics tab and you will see the number of lines as well as characters with and without spaces. If you're currently getting paid by the line and a line is 65-characters with spaces, do the math and see how that number of lines compares with the number of lines in your stats.

    One thing to keep in mind: if you have a blank line between paragraphs, instead of hitting the enter key twice, format your document to give the appearance of blank lines between paragraphs.

    Gross line, also including blank lines because my line rate is so low. It all works out in the wash.
    $.06 gross line / .70 = approximately $.0857 cents per 65 character line.

    A gross line is anything on a line versus 65 gross characters per net line the other way.  You make more money working for the gross line than for the 65 gross character line, as long as the line rate's OK.

    Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
    Curious, do most IC's usually charge by the gross line or 65 character line?
    Thank you~
    What's the diff between a gross line and a 65-char line?

    Mebbe just got my first OWN ACCOUNT YAY!  He said to charge him the "going rate" since I pay him that.  This could be the start, baby!  (I hope)

    Gross line versus character line....Sm please

    I am thinking of taking a job that pays by the gross line and not a 65-character line.  I have never worked this way.  Does this literally mean if there is one little word on a line you get paid for it?  I have not pinned her down on a line rate but I am just thinking I am going to be comparing apples to oranges and am wondering how to accomplish that. 

    Thanks for any help!

    gross-anything on line counts as line,even one word
    65-gross line vs.65-gross character line

    Can someone explain the difference between these two?  I am assuming that the gross line is better than the gross character line.  How much better is being paid by the gross character line than just by the standard 65-character line?  Does anyone know how much difference it would make in dollars and cents?


    gross line is anything on a line, even just your initials. sm

    spaces really don't matter in a gross line count.


    But that's a GROSS line, not a 65 character line.
    So a newbie would have no problem at all hitting 150 lines per hour.  A gross line is any line with a printed character on it.
    Which is better? Gross line or 65 character line? It's
    7.5/gross line or 10/65 char line?
    Anyone have any idea which would come out to more?  TIA
    A gross line may be close to 65 ch.pl but she said line
    gross line and character line
    I am an IC currently doing one doctor who pays me by the hour but I will be starting another doctor soon and he will be dictating differently so I was going to charge him per line.  What is the difference of charging gross lines or per 65 character line?
    The bottom line is doesnt matter what they pay if there is no work you make no money. Bottom line.
    What is a 55 char gross line compared to a 65-char line including spaces?
    how many characters per line?
    90 characters per line SM

    It's a long line.  However, when you are finished transcribing the 90 character lines you take a character count and divide by 65 and that's your line count.  It doesn't matter if there are 120 characters on a line, as long as you divide the character count by 65 and multiply by 9.5 cpl, that's how much you get paid. 

    Clear as mud? 

    90 characters per line
    I just started working for a new company and was told I would be paid for 65 characters per line, including spaces, at 9 1/2 cents per line.  I noticed when I was transcribing that there were really 90 characters per line with spaces.  Has anyone ran into this problem at their jobs?  I'm not sure what to make of it. 
    Characters per line - sm
    With all the discussion going on about CPL, I wonder what character count ICs use, that is if you have a choice.
    Without spaces, what line is that on? 65 characters?
    Pay by line versus pay by characters; what is
    Depends. How many characters per line?
    Do both count the same # of characters per line?
    If they're different (65 characters per line, 55 characters, etc.), then you need to let us know what they are before anyone can give an objective answer.
    A 65 character line is 65 characters
    on a line. If have 650 characters in a document, that is equal to 10 lines, then multiply that by whatever your cpl rate ie. If 0.10 cpl then that would be 650 x 0.10 which would equal $0.65, if 6500 characters, then that would be 650 lines x 0.10 which would equal $6.50. This is if it is a 65 character line including spaces.
    A 65 character line is 65 characters
    on a line. If have 650 characters in a document, that is equal to 10 lines (650 divided by 65), then multiply that by whatever your cpl rate ie. If 0.10 cpl then that would be 650 x 0.10 which would equal $0.65, if 6500 characters, then that would be 650 lines x 0.10 which would equal $6.50.
    Gross line is anything on a line is a line
    so if there is just one character, it is a line. Font definitely makes a difference though particularly if there are true type fonts involved. That's one you have to be careful on and insist on fixed fonts.
    Just do a gross line - anything on a line is a line. sm
    I use Abacus - free line counting software.

    Think about .07 a line ---IF a word is considered 5 characters - sm
    So that would be 5000 characters/65 (if a 65-char. line), gets you ~77 lines. Divide 5.5/77 and get .07. Now are spaces included? If so how is that factored in? Presuming from the offer that spaces are not included, .07 is fine if just starting and probably the average if less than 2 years experience.
    Yes, you are paid for every line whether it has 1 word or 65 characters
    I would think so anyway if it is straight gross, paying. Remember you physical sometims have short lines, family history, etc.
    Line padding is also adding little blank characters

    like spaces throughout the report to get paid more.  I saw reports at MQ and Sp that had lines of spaces shown on reveal codes between paragraphs where someone either didn't know how to work their expander, was cutting and pasting, or was deliberately padding their lines.

    As for typing out abbreviations, I work on an account that doesn't use abbreviations at all.  I use otcx for over-the-counter, etc.

    Both 65 characters per line -- one counts spaces, one doesn't NM
    When is a word only 5 characters. I thought 7-10 was an average and 10 words a line? nm
    9 cpl, 65 characters per line, spaces, headers, footers included. employee status. nm
    Per Gross Line Pay?
    Being relatively new to MT, I'm not quite sure what being paid by the gross line is as opposed to being paid by a 65 character line.   Can someone clear me up on this.    Thanks much. 
    gross line
    I am paid by the gross line whether one word is on it or 10 or 12, the same amount.

    If you are paid by 65 character line, you take the characters and divide by 65 or use Sylcount whereas you are can then paid for each keystroke, i.e. capitalization, underline is two characters, etc. YOu have to define what a line is or what a character is.
    gross line
    Thanks Patti!!
    gross line
    6 is a good gross line rate when you figure it is equal to at least 8.5 if it were counted at 65 characters, most companies don't want to pay more than 7-8
    Gross line
    What is a gross line and how is it figured? The contract states 6 cpl for 68 characters. Although, after just speaking with the company, every space, keystroke is counted. Still confused.
    Gross line
    What is a gross line, and how is it figured?
    I saw that it was for gross line but I was getting
    Gross line
    I do gross lines and if they want a smaller font, I change it back to Courier or Arial 12 and count that way.  I have been lucky as just raised my rates 0.005 to 11.0 but have not raised in the past 4 years.  I do do pick up and delivery as they are still on tapes and told them that with the gas I had to do it.   They had no problem as I am still one of the lowest here in the Portland area.  And, they have been with me from 6 to 18 years my accounts.  But I still go on what I can do in an hour and since I have been doing these docs so long I can make anywhere from 30 to 50 dollars an hour and I think that is a fair rate for me.   I still believe the only ones getting rich in this medical mess is the insurance companies and that was in the news this last week.  Their big profits.  Anyway go with gross line, I still quote it as 65 characters per line which it is but I count by gross and 12 font.    Patti
    Gross line

    I bill for gross line which means each line counts whether there are 10 words or one word each line counts.  So when I type in a smaller font, there are less lines than in Courier.  I do not take the characters and divide by 65.   Hope that makes sense.  So the smaller font, the less lines.  So when I contract with a client I tell them that my price per cpl it is a 65 character line in Courier font.  If they chose to use Ariel 10, I will type in that for them but the line count is done in Courier or at least Ariel 10. 


    gross line - IC -- nm