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Been discussed in the past that Word's line counter is lower than normal. Anyone else? nm

Posted By: Wanderer on 2005-07-28
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Is there a program that you can down load to keep a running total of your lines all day.  I keep forgetting to go into word count after every report.  The company keeps track but I want to be sure it is right.  I have M. Word 2000 so I cannot leave it running like the newer versions. 

Please take note that the Word line counter--sm
is not accurate because it counts ALL lines, even those that are blank. If your reports are double spaced, it will count the lines in between as lines. be careful. recommend a good line counting program instead.
Line counter that does not depend on MS Word??
I had a computer crash. After I reformatted my computer, I no longer have Word, only WordPerfect. All I counted lines with before was Word's statistics, lines with spaces. WordPerfect does not give lines with spaces. I have looked at several line count utilities and ALL so far expect you to have Word installed on your computer. They use Word and just report the line count to you (so what would be the point of purchasing a program to do that....just use Word!!!). I need an inexpensive reliable line count utility that does NOT require Word. Thanks.
See inside for how to access Word's line counter...
Open your Word program and select Tools and then Word Count.
line counter
I got it to work if I use slow method, so if you figure it out great, but whew, what a help evenif slower then the regular method
line counter
I found that the MTstars counter works great EXCEPT for gross lines - I was shorted 622.00 last year and just found out, when was notified I had been shorting myself. (what a company to tell me of my error - I was shocked.) All other "parts" work well but hope eventually it gets fixed on MTstars so I can continue using it.
Line counter
Just wanted to clarify - The MTStars line counter works great for me. I did have an issue but my original post probably should have been split into two - a company I work for actually told me of an error - that does not happen too often.

I have referred others off site to this counter and no one has had problems. My concerns about straight line counts has a fix (comparable rate) that I use with the counter. Do not want anyone thinking this program has anything deficient with it. I use it to bill my IC clients as well as my private ones. I would be lost without it.
line counter user too
You know, I NEVER thought about the feature in Word (using Word's total char w/spaces/65 = total line count. It never occurred to me that that doesn't count hard page breaks, tabs, or returns! I feel really stupid. I've always just trusted that that is the way things are done (thinking that TX companies are actually treating the MTs fairly concerning pay). And the thing that makes me so mad is that, that is the way most transcription companies have you figure your lines! Because apparently that's the way their customers ask/tell them to bill them! Something is definitely wrong with this picture. We, as MTs need to stand up and just not take it anymore! I'm TIRED of just taking what they make us take. Granted, I'm sure there are actually some decent, honest Tx companies who actually pay for all characters/keys used, but I'd have to say, by and large, that is just not the case.

Having said all that, I have one client that I also bill using Instant Text Pro V line count software and I love it. But I have worked for other companies in the past who used strictly the Word method of counting characters w/spaces and dividing that by 65. How unfair is that? All this time! Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
You need to repost this over and over - it is great, glad I did not miss it.
line counter programs
I have always suggested MTStars flash counter and have never had a problem for my "newbies" who come on board for me - however I have a new trans whose systems does not support this invoice generator - line counter program - Can someone suggest another free invoice / line counter program and direct me to link so that I can inform her. I prefer not to have any Newbie spend money when they do not have to. Any information you can give will be greatly appreciated.
Line Counter Software...

Hey there ....

Does anyone have a lead on any line counting software for under $30-$40?  I have TexTally, but it does not calculate the same way my Word 2002 calculates. 

  Thanx for your time.

Platform line counter

I check my line counts with the software counter every day at the end of my shift and write it down.  At the end of this pay period, if I did a full pay period count on the same counter, my count doesn't add up to the same as when I add each day individually.  At first I thought it might have to do with blanks, but it is off by almost a whole shift's worth lines and I don't leave very many blanks.  I double checked the dates/times I entered to make sure I didn't miss a day.  I did not.

Has anyone else experience this?  I'm wondering if my company gets the count they pay me for this way.  I normally don't add them all up for the whole pay period, so I never noticed it before. 

macro for line counter

Paste this into your macro editor, if your line is 55 characters (or whatever) instead of 65, just substitute 55 for 65.

Sub PostLineCount()
Dim N As Long
N = ActiveDocument.Characters.count
N = Round(N / 65)
AutoCorrect.Entries.Add Name:=qdlc", Value:=N
MsgBox N & " lines in this document"
End Sub

If you need to type in your line count into an invoice, it is now in your autocorrect, just type qdlc in your invoice.  The autotext entry qdlc will change to the new line count each time you run this macro in a new document.

I hope somebody finds this useful and it will save her a little bit of money.  If any of you have some specific need this macro does not address, I will check back here later and post the new macro solution for you.

Best line counter/invoicer - suggestions?nm
Anyone been able to figure out yet about the MQ line counter being Transcription QC QA and Clerical
and no Correction. Maybe we are all going to QA each others work to save money for Frank so he can take someone to Hawaii or type his letters. Maybe.
I use a line counter system similar to sylcount--sm
It has an invoice feature within it. I save my daily files by patient name and whether CN, H&P, etc. If I had to run an invoice like that each month, it would be much easier to have your files by each doctor and then run the invoice feature on the line counter. It would count each patient during that month by name and list it on the invoice that way, as well as including the line count and the cost. It would be much easier than doing it by hand. Good luck to you.
Inexpensive Line Counter - http://www.mpword.com/mptools.htm - $43.00 - nm
Are you supposed to use the on-line counter or the Ctrl-I function? You need access to get to the
There is nothing wrong with the MTStars Line Counter. If you have issue, you need to email
and take it up with us directly rather than post openly on the forum. Email to support@mtstars.com
There is a free download line counter called Abacus and I have used
that program to count my lines, which works real well.  I just always used a program to do it.  It's pretty user friendly and you can try it for free and see if you like it. 
With the lower pay per line, I'd have to be able to
get 700-800 lph under that platform to make more money and there is no way to do that.  The higher uppities have even admitted it is best for the slower people, not someone fast.
Line Count...lower pay

I have been doing transcription for many years now.  For many of those years I was paid 9 cents/line per 70 character count with the WordPerfect 5.1 (DOS) program.  I have now been switched over to Microsoft Word and there is a variation in word/line count and a drop in my pay.  Can anyone explain this please?

Well....he asked me to lower my line rate for him (sm)
which I did....then he asked that I make copies of everything he cc's and copies of the letters he dictates....then asked me to subtract off the templates he uses, even though I am using my ink to print these templates and making changes where he wants....it seems that I am spending more time doing these things than I am making any money. Just don't know what to do. I am not complaining, just need some helpful advice. Thanks
suggest offering a line count lower than....nm

What is your normal line count?
Just wondering how much different your count was from your norm.
normal line count???
I don't really know my normal line count for an hour. All I know is that I used to do 2000 lines in about 6 hours and lately it seemed like I had been getting up at 7 or 8 in the morning and working until 1 or 2 in the morning and just barely getting my lines done. And I am exhausted and tired and cranky all the time and I just have to find a way out of it.

Obviously, I have just been spending way too much time on this board, politics, phone calls, television, talking to people in my home, etc.

That was the point I was trying to make - that we can all probably discipline ourselves a little more and even though there are still problems with the job, with the account, with the dictation, with the system, we can work smarter with what we can control - OURSELVES!
word normal.dot too big
I read this, if your normal.dot gets too big word is slow to open. they say you can just delete it, do a search and delete.
Yep, that woudl be the reason for the lower line rates these days! Boy, you figured that all out...

However, you fail to see that if the company itself was honest about the company, its structure, the software, and the accounts, few MTs would leave so quickly.  It's the old saying of what came first, the chicken or the egg? 


To the original poster, if you feel uncomfortable with a company or an account, by all means go with yorur gut feeling.  If you feel somehow responsible for accepting the job without researching it first and want to keep your side of the street clean, you can always resign and offer to return the equipment at your expense.  As always, make sure you get a return receipt, but this might make the ending to this chapter of your life more comfortable for you. 


Good luck in whatever you decide to do!!!

If Word, Shift + F3 cycles thru upper/lower/title case.
I believe you would need to make changes to the normal.dot file in Word.

There are two ways to do it.  You can open up your existing normal.dot file and change your view to 200% and then save it.  Or you can create a whole new normal.dot file with the settings you want, but if you do it this way, you have to find and delete the original normal.dot file.

Either way, every new document should be magnified to 200% and in whatever font you set the default as.

Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
This is becoming the normal, unfortunately. To get assigned docs & accts. makes for good line
posts in the past talked about ExText low line counts
You have to answer yes to the message to save Normal when you quit Word
to save toolbar settings.
Line counting software - Need a good program. Have used MPCount in the past, but now
cannot download the old one, as it has been replaced by some new version, which I don't like. Can anyone recommende a good line counting program. Thanks.
Does your program change lower case to upper? If so, type all in lower and
it will change the ones it is supposed to.
I wouldn't lower my rates. Should I request a lower CPL from my employer
because I use a ton of normals, templates and such to increase my line count?
gross-anything on line counts as line,even one word
You can replace the 2007 Normal.dotm with your old normal.dot file. sm
Open the old normal.dot in Word and save as the new file format.

The easy way is to load the oldest version first and then upgrade.

chiefly British past and past participle of SPELL
I'm completely normal and met my normal husband online. sm
I also met casual dates online (read: real social dates, NOT sex hookups), and all were completely normal. I wasn't meeting who I wanted to meet in the other traditional ways (church, through friends, at work, etc) so I looked online and found someone whose sense of humor shined through in his writing, and that is who I eventually married after 2+ years of traditional dating. We are both college grads, gainfully employed, financially stable, non-perverted, normal people. BUT, I did have to sort through a LOT of personal ads, as there are certainly plenty of oddballs out there, as well, just like in the outside world. :-)
Rename your normal.dot file to something else then restart Word. It will create a new file.
I'd still charge by line, just charge a lower
rate, like maybe 8 cpl.  Do you have to pickup and deliver work?    You could also setup a one-month contract until you see how it goes and then you can figure out the best way to charge and go from there.  You could also charge a flat rate per page and keep it fairly low.  
word or line

Which one is better:  billed per 65-character line or per word?

Word line count
The company I IC for told me to use the word count in the Word, divide the characters with spaces by 65 to get my line count.  Are you guys saying that this is not accurate?  The owner is a very honest person, so if this is not accurate, I'm sure she does not know it.  I think this is how she bills her clients as well. 
line count in word
Use the characters with spaces count and divide by 65.
per word versus per line

I have never been paid by the line before, and I was wondering before I go any further, what would be the minimum requirement of lines per day for most services?  I want to be full time and have benefits.



I use both DQS & Word and avg about the same line count.
Two separate part time accounts.  I really don't see much difference.
line count in word
Microsoft word line count - what is the name of it and where can I buy it.  Also,on a dictaphone, how can i tell how many minutes of dictation i have left. 
Word line count
This is what i actually meant. i get paid per gross line and i need to figure out how many lines i am typing per day. someone told me there is a program for that
line counting in Word
Thank you for your help. I tried to do a test counting in Word but it seems to count the blank lines too so it is not accurate.