Ethical?

Posted By: Hmm on 2007-12-29
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I am pasting the following from a post down the list. Do you feel this is okay? Apparentlly you do not work for a company where you have to log in, or they would be able to see that you are fudging your hours, no? - - -

"Very few people are so fast that they can make a living at only 6-7 cpl within the confines of a 40-hr. week. It's often even hard to meet the minimum daily line requirement within an 8-hour day because of all the detective-work we have to do with names/addresses of doctors, brand-new medications not in the books yet, and poor-quality dictating. It's more common to work a 12-hour day and then have to write '8 hrs' on our timecards."

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Ethical? - Hmm
- This is true for me BECAUSE of the timekeeping my company uses. - MW
- Not only unethical but illegal to falsify time records. - It is lying and theft. NM
  - Employee padding time-card = "unethical". - Employer dodging overtime = bus. as usual.
- Unethical, IMHO - see message
  - Really - Hmm
    - They weren't *fudging*. They didn't ADD hours - - they were actually DEDUCTING hours.
    - They weren't "fudging" - they didn't ADD hours - - they were actually DEDUCTING hours.
  - You better go back and read the ORIGINAL post again - - this isn't what they were saying at all!
- So you mean - Hmm
- That's how they get around having to pay - us overtime. I agree, it sucks.
- This has been discussed extensively. There is - co. that requires this. nm

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There must be a reason why your MTSO has a strict policy about not ever talking to their clients. If I were an MTSO, I would want someone to give me some feedback and would not ever mention the ICs name who told me. If they have made an agreement to e-mail each other without telling the owner of the MT company, then I would say that the other three of you could be in jeopardy of your jobs. Make sure there is also a clause in your contract that states that an MT cannot steal a client from the MTSO. If that be the case, then you would not have to worry about giving the head's up to the situation. If not...then if I were you, I would give the head's up.

It probably is legal but certainly not ethical.
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Not exactly ethical, nor is it legal. nm

WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT ETHICAL - ITS WAITRESSING -sm
what is not ethical about waitressing??? The clubs in this city have been around for 15+ years and all the clubs pay their waitresses in the same manner!! While it may not be legal, no one has ever gotten "caught" and the clubs have never gotten in trouble.

But get off your high horse about what is not ethical. Maybe you're just jealous of the fact that you cannot make that much extra money.

No. It's not fair. IMO, it's not even ethical. I saw
a pain management physician a few years back, but only went for 2 or 3 visits. I was made to feel like one of their laboratory rats, with all the new pain meds that are on the market still being tests, and new "wonder" procedures they wanted to perform, and even though their specialty is pain management, it was like pulling teeth to get a prescription; I even had to sign a pain management contract. Besides the weeks I waited to get the appointment, all the while in sheer agony, be prepared when you finally get in the door to wait just as long. They think that your time isn't as valuable as theirs, and that you actually enjoy sitting there for hours flipping through 2 year old magazines. As you can see, I have no faith or confidence in this fairly new 'speciality' -- just another money maker. I do, however, wish you husband well. Please keep me informed.