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I worked for 2 different companies with Emdat.

Posted By: Never use Emdat again on 2007-09-13
In Reply to: EMDAT question - Snow Bunny

The first one was not too bad.  Limited number of dictators, demographics filled in properly, could move right along.


The second company sucked.  Unlimited number of doctors, demographics hit and miss, they really had no idea how to use Emdat and didn't care to find out.  Templates poorly made.  Quit cause of the low line count.


You need the pedal specifically for Emdat, which cost under $100 a couple years ago.  I had very little problem with mine.  Had to use a Y connector with my keyboard.  Had a different pedal for my .wave file work and a tape account I had so there were 3 pedals under my desk.  Hope this helps.... 




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I use emdat with two different companies...
I believe Emdat will work with any expander, as it's based on Word.

I've never had problems with version 4.3, but I've recently started with a company that uses version 4.91.309 and would not recommend taking a position if that's the version they use.

I'm having a heck of a time getting any lines due to the fact that Emdat has tried to fix what they thought was a problem (apparently they were getting complaints), and they've made it worse.

I was sent a link yesterday by tech support at Emdat and told to basically re-download the program and that would fix the problem, but it didn't.

Unfortunately, if they aren't able to fix it, I won't last at this company, and I really like the work.

Has anyone here ever heard of, trained on, or worked on Emdat? Any information?
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The companies I have worked for did this.
I am not sure how long they were kept, or what media was used to keep them on. I am an IC for the company I work for now, and I have been asked more than once by the doctors office to pull up files over a month old. I always refer them to the service owner. It would depend on what was in the contract.
Has anyone worked for different companies
same platform but so totally different line counts? That shows you right there what we're up against, there is no standard measurement by which to pay us. I have never seen anything so ridiculous in my entire life. All of these supposed "MT friendly" platforms have the capability to count lines "cheat" us any way they want, and nobody can control that. Offshoring is just one of the issues. I have been to company X and make 800 lines in a day, do the same amount of work and work on the same platform for company Y and make 1200 lines a day, yet another company Z and average 1500 lines a day. Company X is ripping off bigtime. Post these companies names here and lets stop working for them. Thats one way to try and make a change.
What not ask these other companies that you worked for what they use?

They should be able to tell you if it's a publicly-available system or just their own.


Only trying to help. Geesh!


Okay - seriously 20 - worked for 2 companies twice each.
And actually hired to work at 4-5 others but passed on them for various reasons. Thinking I am picky or selective? LOL
I have worked for a lot (too many) of companies, and this is the norm. nm
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I've worked for several companies using this VR
I make on average $20-$26 an hour with the editing at 4cpl/straight typing 9-10 cpl 65 char with headers and footers and templates. I've been using it for several years though. There are several job ads for this software.
Has anyone else had this happen any companies you worked for>??

Just wondering if anyone else has had the company they work for decide to pay less money, in this case 1 cpl less, if you don't make your minimum line requirement?  I have never had this happen until now.  Its not just me, this will apply to everyone.  What do you all think?


indeedy i have worked for companies who "control"
how much you earn by the dictation you get.  Don't get too many lines in a day, or you will get the crappiest dictators on earth for the next three days of the week.  OR, you will get ESLs that slow you waaaayyyy down.  Been there, I know how rotten these companies can be, and I know exactly what you mean.  These company owners are not your friends and not fair...  Don't have my head in the sand, or maybe I had to EARN my pay!!  They have good dictators that I haven't transcribed in years....but that's okay. I am used to the crappy dictators now, and get my work done very quickly, so no more slowing me down, until they decide to put me on a NEW hospital or something.  Yeah, you caught on quickly!!!  Good luck to you.  Once you get onto all of the crappy dictators, your job will be secure.  Who else can do all of the crap?
This is not a new market. Is being done with all offshore companies I have ever worked for. nm
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I've worked for companies that needed people
specifically to do certain reports.  I have been hired to exclusively do ERs and discharge summaries before.  It wasn't cherry picking either.  They needed someone to catch up their backlog and keep the reports within TAT permanently.  Evidently, other people were cherry picking and bypassing these report types because they're not as good of money makers as Ops or H&Ps.
So, are you working for the same company. I have worked for 2 companies and I have noticed a huge
difference in the lines I got from each company. The accounts were similar. I never ever got what your talking about but I would average 600-700 lph at one company and the other one  I was lucky to get 400 lph so then I figured out they didnt pay for spaces, footers, headers etc.. and that does factor into your line counts on that platform.
Two of the best companies I've worked for didn't make me test. Makes you wonder if...sm
these MTSOs that mandate so many "tests" aren't just trying to see how many actual reports they can get transcribed for free. I could understand maybe a written test and one very in-depth transcription test, but 6 is utterly ridiculous. I would have definitely passed on that too and then told the MTSO exactly why.
Emdat Software Question for Emdat Users

Hello:


I have a question about the Emdat software.  Regarding the cc: box, sometimes, you have to type in the address, because the address is not in the database.  I have found that when you try to pause the audio with either the foot pedal or the "F" key assigned to pause while typing the address, the audion will not pause; it keeps on playing.  You should be able to pause the audio while trying to type the address into the database.  Anyone else notice this, anyone?  Thank you kindly.


Does Emdat work with F keys or is is something else? Is Emdat
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Emdat works with Instant Text Por V - ony version that works with Emdat - nm
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Every company is different -- I worked FT for one as an employee but worked a split shift - sm
So I never took breaks. I would work 5 hours, break for about 4 hours then do another 3. Another company I worked for did not care what hours you worked (IC) but wanted a min. amount of work each day, 500 for PT and 1000 for FT-- BUT they paid you by how many lines an hour you put out, the higher the lph the higher up the scale you made per line in pay; they have since changed everyone to a flat rate with incentive. But bottom line, if you are an IC it does not matter what hours you work, though many ask for a schedule and ask you to stick to it, they just want you to meet line requirements daily, i.e. 1000 per day, 1200 per day, whatever it is.
I got up early, worked during naps, and worked when DH got home.

You have to be disciplined to make yourself work when baby is napping instead of maybe watching TV or doing housework, etc.   


I might also go the route of having a teen come into your home, or either trying a mother's morning out program at a local church/daycare.   I've been home since my youngest was born and he has never been in all-day daycare, but I did have him in a mother's morning out program 15 hours a week at a local church.   It didn't help a lot with my work schedule because I had an older son in school and was a room mom and tutored other kids, but that might be an option.  The only problem with the mother's morning out program is they are around other kids and tend to pick up every germ.  I finally took my DS out of the program because he stayed sick.  You were supposed to keep them off if they had green nasal discharge and I did, but no one else did.  Every time I got him well after 2 to 3 days back he would be sick again.  Other than that it was very good for him because he would not have had a chance to be around kids his age otherwise. 


MT companies negotiate with the insurance companies until they get what they want

It is strictly up to the agreement between the employer and the insurance company.  Your new employer can tell you what the pre-existing clause is in your new policy.  Some require proof of insurance for the past 12 months.  It may say something like if a diagnosis has not been made NOR treatment received within the last __ months.  Not good when companies negotiate with a pre-existing clause in order to get a lower rate.  Better check with your HR with your new company before doing anything.  It really gets hairy !


Most companies do no use their only files (HIPAA). They use files provided by other companies, serv
If you can get through the test files, then the sound quality on the actual company files is better. And, the dictation is never as bad as the test files, plus you have QA to help with hard blanks.
I worked on that system when I worked there...
The thing that chapped my hide about that TWS was that they designed it so that all the headers of each section of the report were canned and thus you were not paid for them, even though you had to take your hand off the keyboard and mouse down a list of paragraph headers to chose the one you needed.  Just racking up more profits for themselves.  Ticks me off.
that is what is being worked out, and has been worked on for the last few years already...only
why are we just hearing this now? I know voice recog has been around, but this is entirely different. This will also make coding and billing obsolete.

Don't know why, but it just bothers me that one of our 'own' is the one pushing this...and she is also connected with AAMT. Do they support this, and if so, what is their advice I wonder to the MT?

Perhaps that is one question for their website (I do not subscribe to their mag or credentials...)

Thanks, for the input!
emdat

Found tPosted by not impressed on October 15, 2003 at 17:33:46:


In Reply to:Emdat posted by Heather H. on October 11, 2003 at 10:31:52:

Looked at it for our company as well.....and after using it as an MT for a week, decided it was not for us.....Too expensive, slow (cut my production by half) and uses HTML base rather than plain text base. Our investigation has confirmed that MedPen is a far superior program and you don't have to pay a huge sum up front, then per line just to use the program. EMDAT also outsources to other companies and outsource overseas as well, so please do your homework before you make a decision.
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Posted by happygirl740312 on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:32

In Reply to: Emdat and 4 cents a line - Please help! posted by Mary on October 06, 2004 at 08:12:51:

First of all, let me clarify something for you. Emdat is a transcription platform, and while it is cumbersome to some and not so cumbersome to others, the MTSO who uses Emdat is the one who controls the line rate, etc. 4 cpl is ridiculously low for anything other than QA. Your dictators will vary in quality, obviously, just like anywhere else. If your skills are good and you are insulted by 4 cpl (which you should be), keep looking. Something better will certainly come your way.

I wanted to clear the air about Emdat because my company uses Emdat also; however, our starting line rate is double what you quoted, and I didn't want people to associate Emdat with low line rates.
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EMDAT

Is there anyone out there that can say good things about EMDAT?  I would love any kind of input about it?  I am interested in working for a company that uses it.


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EMDAT
Thanks..
emdat
I did not think IT worked with emdat. Is it hard to install on emdat? Would like to try and use it if it would would work.
EMDAT
Just CURIOUS!!! Do you enjoy being an IDIOT/JERK? If you go around looking for ways to cut or degrade others comments then you must have some problems. GET A LIFE!!
Emdat

I like Emdat.  I have been using for over 2 years.  When they made the upgrade though, they took out the option to key in word.  I don't like that. But since I have a bad leg on the right side, I can use the hand controls and it works pretty good.  It takes a while to set up your autotext, but again, once it is done, your line count can soar.   


 


 


Emdat

Does anyone know if Voice Recognition software can be used with Emdat Inscribe.  The office is closed and I am way behind in my typing.  I know that it does type on the screen, but I also know that they have had issues with copy and past (although that is not what this would be) before and I did not want to use it if that would cause the same type of problem.


Emdat- what's that?
Emdat-Inscribe is a platfor that you work out of. It has a spell checker, it has the capabilities of putting in all pertinent patient info for you so all you do is type. At least that is how it was when I typed in it...hope that helps, plus much more on that.
emdat

I've used Emdat for the last 2+ years.  I hated it at first but it's ok now.  We have to put our demographics in, it all depends how the company is set up.  I don't think line counts are that great compared with Word or other platforms.  It was definitely not developed with Transcriptionist input but has gotten better/more user friendly.  Good Luck!


Emdat
I have completed their training and just can't seem to get anywhere with AutoText.  Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I have tried putting in AutoText different ways, but that does not make any difference. What I hate is having to put in all of my autocorrects over again from scratch. I guess I will just keep working with it. IT Pro V looks good too. I will probably eventually buy that. Thanks for the replys.
Emdat
wondering, I wrote out a lengthy e-mail about Emdat but then found out you could not receive it.  I don't have time to write it out again but if you have a specific question, maybe I could help you with that.
Emdat

Have you completed their on-line training?


 


I am going to Emdat training this morning and will post again if I learn anything I think would help you.  Emdat is not my favorite and I find it hard to get a good line count with it too.


the low was is with Emdat
(Inscribe) and the other line count is just using MS Word.  I have heard others say Emdat has a low line count too, now that I think about it.
emdat
I just think if you are placing an ad for a job from a transcription company and expect perfect work back, then the ad should not have any mistakes. Wonder who is proofing their work!lol.
Emdat
I had trouble with it.  I don't like typing in boxes, so I would choose the type in Word option; however, it doesn't pull all of what you type in Word and put it in the appropriate place.  The symbols do not translate between what you type in Word and the Emdat format.  An example . . . when I would type the ' and " signs it would not come up on the Emdat screen as such.  It was a complete waste of time.  Perhaps it just doesn't fit well with Word 2003?  I was constantly getting faulted for things I was told I did not type and I know I did.  The spell checker is horrible.  It flags all medical words incorrect or correct.  I will not ever work with it again.
I tried EMDAT too, and I did not like it.
I thought it was too cumbersome and not worth the learning process.
EMDAT

I read a few posts below people who did not like EMDAT platform at all.  Are there any people out there who actually like it.  Do you know if PC ShortHand works with it? Also, can you use Stedman's Medical/Pharm. Spellchecker with it?  Are you able to view previous reports if you cannot understand a medicine or a word that might be muffled?  How about line production?  Good, bad, indifferent?


I got a job offer where they use EMDAT exclusively so before I get myself in above my head, thought I would post here and get some help to make up my mind.


Thanks.


Emdat

First Emdat is the company name for the platform developer.  Inscribe is actually the transcription portion of it.  InCommand is the MTSO area and InQuiry is the medical facility portion.  I just wanted to clarify that because I'm seeing that some people are not aware of this.


I used Emdat as an MTSO and also as an MT.  It's not the best program and it is not the worse program.  Only you can decide that.


At this time, I do not believe you can use your Stedman's spellchecker and as others have noted, the Inscribe spellcheck is subpar so it will take some time to add things, but once you do, it will work fine.


As for the footpedal, you can do this a couple of ways.  Yes, there is a special footpedal or foot switch rather that needs to be used if you are going to use the Inscribe media player controls.  However, you can use ExpressScribe and use your standard wav pedal. 


Your IT, ShortHand or other Expander program will work just fine. 


As for the demographics, that is the medical provider issue.  Some facilities will allow the MTSO/Emdat to connect to their scheduling or IDX system which will then download the demographics for you automatically.  Some will not and this will mean that you will have to enter those demographics. 


There are only two ways lines get counted in Emdat - a gross line (but with a 65 character base) which means that if you have a client who is  using a small font, you cant do worse than a standad 65 character line, or a straight 65 character line count.  It does count spaces and it does count the information that goes into the initial demographics.  


As with anything, depending on the account, your abilities and the dictators, you can fly through anything in Inscribe fairly quickly or it can seem cumbersome depending on what platforms you've used before.


EMDAT
I have used both EMDAT and Inscribe. I have 2 Expanders and neither ever worked with it. Expanders, generally work with Word/Word Perfect to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps there are different versions of EMDAT?
Here's my take on EMDAT
I've been using it for 2 years. I had a few kinks at the beginning getting my autokeys transferred from DQS and getting the foot pedal set up, but once I followed the instructions e-x-a-c-t-l-y I was good to go. My company only requires minimal header information so I don't find it time consuming or difficult at all. I think the worst part is that the spell check is somewhat lacking, and it took time to add the misspelled words to my autotext so they would expand with the proper spelling.

I have two Emdat foot pedals, one with USB and one with PS/2 connectors and didn't have problem setting either one up. The key is to follow the instructions EXACTLY!

I say go for it.
EMDAT
Does anyone know how if a regular foot pedal can work with EMDAT, the Start Stop pedal and if so, how?????? any info would be greatly appreciated.
EMDAT
You can actually make your pedal work with express scribe, if your company will let you use express scribe with EMDAT. Some companies are saying that it messes up the the work if you use express scribe, but I know for a fact that many companies are still using EMDAT with express scribe and having no problems, so the debate is on. It just depends on which company you work for and which side of the debate they are on.
EMDAT

Thanks.  I will have to ask them if my pedal that I use for express scribe will work or if they will allow me to use it if it does work with EMDAT.  Thanks again.


Emdat
I came to know about such a software only today
emdat
I am using Express Scribe with Emdat/Inscribe version 4.91.308 (latest version). My foot pedal I use is a USB port Infinity foot pedal which is not the Start/Stop foot pedal that most companies require you to use.
However, I would not recommend that you go against your company's wishes if they require the Start/Stop pedal because of the HIPPA issues.

On your player option on the EMDAT log in screen, you select Express Scribe. When the jobs download, they download 1 at a time instead of 3 at a time, like the older versions of EMDAT do. This prevents mixing up the audio files with the correct patient.

I hope this helps.

Emdat
How do I configure my foot pedal to work with Emdat? I have a USB Infinity pedal and this is suppsoed to work but its not.. Anyone?
Emdat
I need to program the pedal so that it will work with the Emdat program. How do I do this?
emdat
The company I work for said specifically cannot use the express scribe option and copy from word - something about looks okay on the screen, but when goes through system comes out all screwed up - if we copy has to be from notepad.