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No I don't think doctors are arrogant and inconsiderate as a whole.

Posted By: There are exceptions of course. on 2006-01-17
In Reply to: Do you think doctors are generally arrogant and make a lot of money and so inconsiderate of us? - md-mt

Because they don't dictate the way we like isn't a personal thing against us. Some have skills with dictation that others don't. Like public speaking, some can, some can't. Doctors do have lives and problems and patients outside of trying to dictate patient records.


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Do you think doctors are generally arrogant and make a lot of money and so inconsiderate of us?
I had been listening to several breast onco dictations by the same female dictator who kept on yawning that it was so annoying...made me want to post a complaint to a forum of mother MDs (though I was not quite sure where I would post it) which I previously run into...

I then saw under the General Discussion board this thread:

http://www.mommd.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/1/t/000236/p/1

That made me feel like reaching out to the sleepy doctor who was probably not being paid for that time she takes to dictate about her patients (she apparently let them pile up before dictating) and just let her head rest on my lap (I am a female). Maybe she did not have enough sleep, or not even enough time to enjoy her family...
Not nearly as arrogant and inconsiderate and downright exploitative as most MT companies n/m
nm
Doctors are SO inconsiderate
Just need a moment to vent...why are doctors SO inconsiderate??? This one doctor, which I happen to have been working on ALL morning, is so inconsiderate. She mumbles, shuffles papers with the phone in her hand, and generally just cannot be still while she's dictating...and to top that off, she will not dictate in any reasonable order. She never indicates when she's changing from history to physical to assessment to plan....UUUHHH...I am literally !!!
It's just being inconsiderate...sm
With all the letters behind their names, they should have the sense to know that if they keep the dictaphone running it means "dead air" time for whoever has to listen.  It has nothing to do with ESLs.  I find just as many native speakers, if not more, think that we should have so sit there while they paper shuffle or otherwise get their s - - - together.  If I were getting paid by the hour, or when they used to give bonuses based on minutes of dictation, great!  They could paper shuffle all they want...they're paying for their own dead air.  But as little as we're already being paid for line per line, I have issue with them taking my time and food off of my children's table.
I know. So inconsiderate! (no message)
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so inconsiderate...mine too

I have a group of 7 docs and they all do that plus back away, turn their head, speak as fast as they can, etc., so I have to listen over and over to get it.   They have to know they are making it difficult. What bothers me most is that I have been doing them for almost 8 years and not once, not once, have any of them acknowledged me!  Not a Merry Christmas, have a good day, thank you, nothing!   The office manager called me once in 8 years to tell me they appreciated my work. 


inconsiderate docs
I had one doc who gave me a bad checs. So, I found another account to make up for his lack of funds, but I picked up his work as usual. I did the last two tapes he gave me, but I didn't give him the work and I returned blank disks to him. His OM hated him, so she called me when she had a deposit and I met her at the bank with the checks and a bill for the new work. She gave me a new check, we took care of business, I got my all my money, and he got his work. I then notified him that I would not do his work for him any longer since he tried to stiff me for several hundred $. Boy was he mad. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
How rude and inconsiderate
was that. People did not even call to say they were not going to make the training sessions?  Unbelievable.  It is just a quick call.  However, I am glad you found a good Transcriptionist in the process. 
Exactly! It's just inconsiderate to your neighbors and unfair to do something like that!
People think they're being funny or cute but making your house look like a piece of crap is rude to the neighbors and DOES make their homes worth less than they should be. I agree that they should be forced by law to change it back.
It's called being an inconsiderate self-absorbed idiot
they don't realize how irritating it is for someone to have to listen to that crap. They just don't care.
PS..arrogant to say the least

Arrogant?? Not at all. sm
How does giving an honest response to a direct question regarding income equate arrogance?

I'm amazed each and everytime I read some of these posts that people can be so hateful, bitter, catty, and jealous.

I hate transcription and am totally burned out. I do just enough to get by. If another MT is typing their fingers off and making a comfortable living, I say "Good for them!" How can you begrudge someone who works hard for being successful?? Would it have made you feel better about yourself if she had posted that she is struggling to make ends meet and can't feed her family? Good grief people.
You talk about QA being arrogant, BUT
You post all the time and it is very visible how much you are actually arrogant. You have such a terrible attitude and nasty mouth. Even as the abbreviation you used it is uncalled for. Your opinion is NOT the only one that matters. You are one person i would just LOVE to meet in person. I would be the first to put you in your place right then and there!
I know that. You're the arrogant one here.
Why would I want to be a doctor anyways?  I have my reasons for being in MT.  Direct patient contact and long hours don't fit into the life plan.  Nobody here has to explain themselves to you.  The truth is that nobody even likes you because you're such a nasty, mean person.  That's why you're here verbally abusing strangers on the Internet.  Have you kicked any dogs lately?
Too arrogant for me and I think he prefers men. nm
 
I agree. You are arrogant.
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Read these boards, & you'll find 'rude & inconsiderate'
nm
I have no issues at all. I'm just saying that the OP is being condescending and arrogant.
And if there are any issues going on, they seem to be coming from a person who needs to analyze any posts in diagreement with their opinion as if that disagreeing poster must be crazy and that simply isn't the case.
It's how incredibly arrogant this administration is!
How can you trust anything that comes from anyone in this adminstration's mouth?  Starting at the very top!!  I can NOT wait until his dictatorship is over.  I am really praying that the Democrats get back in office.  I can not stand the Bush administration's air of superiority.  I don't appreciate being made to look foolish on the world stage.  Bush and his cronies are an embarrassment to this country.  I can not wait until their regime ends!!
No, I was agreeing that Mary's arrogant.
;)
Thank GAWD no one has to deal with you personally..you are rude, inconsiderate, unpolite, defensive
Geesh lady!!
Gee, I dunno. Maybe since you find Americans fat and arrogant is a start
so we're stuck with your nasty ol' hair-ball self
I hope you realize not all Americans are this nasty and arrogant.
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I personally don't. I think she's arrogant, pompous, and in general, a big mouth who's ful
Aren't you sorry you asked? (LOL!)
you sound arrogant to me. "unfortunate family members?"
like they can't take care of themselves without your noble gifts. Maybe you should be reading some books on codependence.
Please explain what was snippy, rude, arrogant, or insulting in her post.
Sorry, but that's the attitude YOU put forward.  You're the one ranting about not being able to find quality MTs.  You use the same nickname and the same style as someone who posted the same topic a few days ago.  I think you knew that would incite a riot.  Maybe the MTs should start an MTSO bashing post and explain the real reason some MTSOs can't find decent MTs.  You reap what you sow.  If you're only offering newbie rates, you're only going to get newbie applicants.  Maybe it's YOU that is the reason you can't find quality MTs.
Excuse me? Arrogant for buying a house for a family member that was sm
about to become homeless? I think not. You sound like my ungrateful, jealous sister in law who can't stand anyone else to succeed. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. They were unfortunate at the time and we bailed them out! Ask them, they will tell you where they would be had my husband and I not put our credit on the line for them.
Only 30 doctors?
Your line count sound great anyway! Maybe some day I will get there. I will keep working on the expander thing. But only 30 doctors? I am sure we work for the same national. I have only two accounts, but have 97 doctors! I have been meaning to ask my friend who works for the same company if she has as many. She has 4 or 5 accounts, but I don't know how many doctors. Sometimes, when I see the 'no jobs' screen, I am tempted to call and ask for another account, but I never do since I am afraid of what I will get. One of my accounts is my 'dream account' because there are few doctors, and they are WONDERFUL. The other account has about 90 doctors and I never know what I am going to get!
Doctors
I used to type for a doc who said sh*t at least once in every sentence. He always told "the typist" to delete that but it was a laugh just listening to him!
You may be right that most doctors
do not read their reports, but a lot of other people do, including coders, nurses, insurance companies, attorneys, and possibly even the patients themselves.        
CERTAIN DOCTORS.

I work for a small MTSO, and I have been asked to work on a certain doctor.  It happened to me because I was getting his work done on time and how he wanted it done.  So, yes there are good reasons for this to happen. 


Thanks!


So....how do you think these doctors who
And some of them KNOW about offshoring (lots of them do), feel about people going overseas for their medical care?  How does it feel?  Not so much fun, huh?
One of my doctors...
is wonderful about saying A-B-duction or A-D-duction instead of assuming I will know. He's got a slight accent, too, so I really appreciate it
Doctors as MTs
I can't help but wonder why someone would go to med school, then decide to become an MT. Even in India, I would think an MD does better financially than an MT -- which is why I bet while they may be good MTs, they must have been inferior MDs. JMHO.
Do you ever wonder how much doctors would
keep patients if they talk to them the same way they dictate? I have transcribed some doctors that I wouldn't go to (no matter how "good" they are) simply because of their dictation. If they talk as fast, slurred, etc. to patients as they do when dictating, no wonder people are sick.
Doctors
Does anyone know where doctors post that they need a transcriptionist?  I have looked through many websites but only find companies and not doctors.
doctors-ha
I am frustrated beyond belief at doctors who do not keep up with dictation then the office blames the Transcriptionist for being behind.  Dictating a week's worth on Sunday afternoon does not mean they will get all the dictation returned on Monday!  And of course they are asking for "stat" reports on one particular patient, then claim they have "missing" dictation.  Well I don't get paid for my time going through and finding one in particular.  I've been an MT for 15 years, but never have I been so frustrated as this afternoon when this whole situation came up for the upteenth time in the month of May.  Sheesh.........why don't they talk to the doctor about keeping up?!  gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr     Sorry, just had to vent..... but I was wondering if anyone has a spare tazer I could borrow.
doctors
Isn't it sickening?! Funny how they think they know everything and are always right, then can't even dictate all of one day on that day or can't remember what patients they've dictated on and blame us for losing them! It's actually the doc who has the problem, but they can't/won't see that. If I didn't need the money so bad, I would certainly quit this guy. He's a major royal pain in the buttocks!

Maybe it's just normal "rigors of transcription", but this has been a consistent problem for months and months and especially for the last couple of weeks. Maybe his allergies are frying his brain! Whatever it is, the staff has the same problem!
They are now quoting me what my contract says and claiming I'm not fulfilling that contract!

gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Getting new doctors
I was wondering if any of you can give me some idea on how to get new docs. The last two accounts that I had I just fell into them. My friend was working for an office when they needed a transcriber. And the second were my ob that I had been seeing when I was pregnant with my twins. Unfortunately, I lost the first account to a lady who was going digital and she was was to come in and cover for me while I was out on maternity leave. And now the ob docs changed over the a new system. They are actually using a piece of paper that they check off everything and if there is something abnormal they make a note of it directly on the paper. I had been transcribing for six docs, but now I am only doing 1 and he is probably going to be retiring soon. I don't know what kind of information I would put on a flyer, or should I send out a letter to doctor's offices. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have never done hospital dictation, so I am strictly looking for office work.

Thank you in advance,

Cheryl
Doctors
Thanks.  I did work for a doctor who stated that doctors are always looking for transcriptionists, but I could never find where they advertise.  The doctor I got was from word of mouth, but he recently moved out of state so I am looking to do work for another doctor.
doctors lie

What do ya'll think about doctors who lie in their dictation.  I have come across this twice within the year - so I am sure it happens quite often.  Once was my own personal MR - doctor came in and told me I had a coronary spasm but when I got my records there was no mention of a coronary spasm or anything else having to do with coronary - he basically said he didn't know what the problem was - other than my blood pressure was 220/114 - which I had to take my own medicine in the bathroom to get it to come down -


 


then - a friend of mine had a bariatric procedure and developed a stricture - he then had an egd under conscious sedation (he is 21 years old) and he became combative on the table.  The doctor came into the RR and told us all about how he had been up and down on the table and how he was not able to do a dilation because of this - then when we got his records - the report said that he had used 3 different balloons and dilated the stricture successfully.  However, my friend was not able to keep anything down - so the doctor went in and did the egd again under general - and could not even find the anastamosis site - he was sent to a specialist who did an egd using dye and fluoroscopy.  Another stricture is forming and the specialist is going to place a stent which is not approved for bariatric patients - it is something they place in people who have esophageal cancer which allows them to eat until they die since the cure rate for esophageal cancer is so low.  I wouldn't let them touch me again - but this is a young kid and he doesn't know any better.  I might also add that the anesthesiologist and the nurse that was in the room on the first EGD came to the RR and told us how bad the situation had gotten before the doctor gave up.


long story long - do ya'll think this is common?  can we no longer trust doctors with our lives?  I realize they are scared of malpractice suits - but, as with my friend, we know that the doctor messed up his tissues - and the specialist told us how bad the tissue looked - like it had been "stabbed through with a knife, inflamed and beginning to scar up".  But do you think that they lie in all of their reports where something goes wrong - or that they color the situation so that they come out smelling like a rose?


doctors
I like www.healthcarehiring.com/

Can look up doctors, clinics, and other things by state.
Doctors --sm
are so used to dictating certain ways that he may not even know he said the word comma. I have a doc that uses "comma" for every punctuation, including period at the end of a sentence. My transcription training drilled it into my head to use as few commas as possible and we were graded on that, dinged if we had too many. I transcribe what I feel to be right, not what the doctor dictates as far as punctuation goes. JMO
I take this seriously; however I know doctors
My mother's surgeon is one of them. Sometime during one of his visits, mother's medical records were brought up and somewhere in the conversation transcription. Well, he said all the x-rays were transcribed by a facility in Australia and he thought it was wonderful because they were ready the next day since their day is our night, etc. He just had a big 'old smile on his face. When I asked him didn't he realized HIPAA rules could not be enforced, he just shrugged as if it were no big deal. This is a guy that has been around a long time and he doesn't even care about patient records, and this would go for ALL the other doctors in his group practice as well. The x-rays are sent by a local hospital, so if the doctors don't care, and I know the hospital knows where the records are, I find it hard to believe most don't know what's going on with our records.

The bottom line......MONEY.........and not the patient.

I take this seriously; however I know doctors
My mother's surgeon is one of them. Sometime during one of his visits, mother's medical records were brought up and somewhere in the conversation transcription. Well, he said all the x-rays were transcribed by a facility in Australia and he thought it was wonderful because they were ready the next day since their day is our night, etc. He just had a big 'old smile on his face. When I asked him didn't he realized HIPAA rules could not be enforced, he just shrugged as if it were no big deal. This is a guy that has been around a long time and he doesn't even care about patient records, and this would go for ALL the other doctors in his group practice as well. The x-rays are sent by a local hospital, so if the doctors don't care, and I know the hospital knows where the records are, I find it hard to believe most don't know what's going on with our records.

The bottom line......MONEY.........and not the patient.

my doctors!
or the nurses or whoever else, but as i just said this IS being implemented April 1st!

dont think it will happen super quick for everyone, this is an eventual process, how can you deny that?
Doctors will not like to have to
put all that data into a computer. They are doctors not data managers. That work will pile up on them and because of their busy schedules and become a real pain.

They will always in the end have to dictate/narrate some sort of personal profile on the patient that does not include vital signs,lab values and imaging results.
No, because the doctors will not want
to listen through an entire dictation of sometimes meaningless stuff to find out what they need.
if the doctors in the USA really REALLY sm
knew why their work is of such bad quality, they would bring their transcription back into the US and hire EXPERIENCED US MTs to do it. I see it happening already, albeit very slowly!
Doctors
are the worst at spelling. I have one doc that consistently spells words wrong. I spell them correctly and leave a note letting him know. He continues to spell them wrong (the same meds). I think he just cannot admit that he is wrong(-:
Where have all the doctors gone?
Gone for AMA meeting every one...ohh when will they ever learn? When will THEY ever learn?

Okay, joking aside. The AMA is meeting in Chicago. Obama is addressing this convention to push his new health plan, something the AMA doesn't support. They are afraid, as are we all, that this will "save" money by cutting compensation to doctors and hospitals. They seem to have record numbers in attendance to show their numbers and power.

So, this might be why work is low all around right now. Bully for them! If they can stop Obama on this, I'll be low on work for a bit and I don't mind in the least. I don't believe that nationalized health is the answer for this country.

GO AMA