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Question about ASR or voice recognition

Posted By: mamawtypes on 2007-10-22
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Eventually the company I work for is going to start doing ASR and less actual typing.  Can anyone who actually does this kind of work describe how they actually do a report?  A brief idea of how this works?  I would be totally new to this and I'm not sure its my cup of tea?  How does your daily routine differ from typing reports?  Is productivity less/more or about the same, and of course the big question, how are the $$$, less?  more?  same?   Not really thrilled about change... old dog ya know!


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i think it is automatic speech recognition but it is the same as VR which is voice recognition.

Voice recognition or speech recognition.
Voice recognition
There's an ad on Mtjobs.com for editors for a voice recognition account. The company is called Focus Infomatics.

Voice recognition?
Hello, new to these boards and I have a question.

Is there a voice recognition software that will work for medical reports? I'm not sure how it would work, if it would actually translate the speech directly from the dictation you are listening to on your computer, or if you'd have to listen and speak it at the same time for the software to translate it?

I've been doing MT for about 3 years now and I'm developing hand/wrist pain, and I'm afraid my time in this profession may be running out. I really love this work and I'm hoping to find a way to make it work.


Voice recognition
Naturally Speaking v.8 works great if,

The digital voice recorder can deliver at 44.1 khz. However, these are .wma files and are HUGE!

The user takes the time to teach the software the nuances of his/her voice. This takes weeks.

The user knows how to punctuate. There are a lot of smart people that don't know where the hypen goes.

The user uses standard dictation commands ie. full stop, new paragraph ect.

If not, you end up with a blob if inaccurate info that's going to the MT for clean up.

If so, you end up with a relatively accurate doc that still should go to a MT for proofing.

IMHO, there's a lot of speech recognition software on shelves all around the world.

That too has now gone to voice recognition
Does anyone use voice recognition to help them do their job?

Voice Recognition

After hearing about it for years, I finally did my first VR work a few days ago.  My fellow MTs, I think we have nothing to fear from this technology.  It will take years, probably a generation, before it is perfected enough to replace us.   I actually found it rather entertaining to edit - it just prints out exactly what it hears phonetically, including the instructions - "Go back up and add...."  

I think they should show some Voc Rec printouts and transcribed reports of the same dictations at all Medical Staff Meetings so  dictators can see just what we do in our job. 

Voice recognition
...I agree with your post Desertflour, but for a different reason. Medical language specialists should keep statistical analysis of what VR types and present it to administrators to show how much they are foolishly throwing their money away! By the time the MLS edits and corrects, it is almost like retying. Where's the savings?
Voice Recognition

I've done voice recognition in the Radiology department for a hospital for two years. I wasn't there when they first started using it, but I'm told the goal was for them to have only one Transcriptionist (editor). We're fully staffed now (actually today was my last day there - I'm working at MQ now) and let me tell you, those docs are not even close to being ready to solve their own problems and self correct. There is only one doc out of 17 that self corrects, and his reports don't look good at all.

I'm not saying it'll never happen, but I think we're going to be needed for awhile.

voice recognition
Could somebody tell me about voice recognition as far as transcriptionists using it?  How does that work?  I'm really interested.  I know that several years ago it was the talk, but I think everybody found out it was not very good or easy to train.  Are transcriptionists now using it to transcribe dictation? and how do they do this?
Voice Recognition
Voice Recognition (VR) software does require some change in discipline for the dictator. However, today's VR programs are much more intelligent than in years past (and not too past, either).

The key to successful VR is the "training" of the software for a particular user. Once that's done, the software can do a 95%+ job in accuracy. And, after correcting any errors, the software gets even more accurate.

I'm a speaker this weekend at the San Diego AAMT chapter meeting. I'm giving a talk on how VR can be used to make MT's more efficient. I think it's time more MT's took a serious look at letting VR help them get more work done more quickly. I have 3 MT's in my family, so it's not just the salesman in me speaking - I truly think you could get ahead of the game and negate your doctor's switching on their own ("Hey, Doc, I'm already using VR, so you don't have to go through the hassle"). And Dr.'s don't have time to be fooling around with software, training, corrections, etc.

Just my two cents.
Bret Williams
Voice Recognition
We're moving to use Packet8 VoIP service. We've been studying VoIP solutions for some time now, and I think they have the best program (we'll see when we begin testing it soon). Their calls use less bandwidth than Vonage, which we like. As for back-up phone lines, you can configure the Packet8 system to route calls to your cell phone (or another land line) if your Internet connection goes down. We like that feature particularly. We're on a fixed-price LD plan with SBC right now, so the LD savings aren't much, but for our toll-free line, we stand to save a bundle!
It is voice recognition...probably 2.5 cpl.
You edit what the system/computer puts out which could sometimes be nearly the entire thing for that amount per line! No fun!
voice recognition just got

Some people have asked if it was possible to install Dragon on their system and then play the physician's dictation into the microphone. (wouldn't that be nice?) Well, things have moved that much closer to this happening.

There is a product called TranscriptionAID, which is sold by TranscriptionGear (click on link below). It is used in conjunction with DNS. I think the article is fairly self-explanatory.

Voice recognition
I tried it years ago and it was a joke.  I'm sure the technology has improved so I would like to know too.  I may have to look at it again.
EHR and voice recognition

I don't know about the EHR part, but I know the voice recognition part is not true.  Many doctors still do not like voice recognition from previous years when it was introduced, and many will never be able to use it.  Dictating so that it is understood by a computer program is a skill that many doctors will never have (or take the time to develop). 

Also, even if everyone did go to voice recognition, the work would still need to be edited.  I have used voice recognition in my work, and it takes a long time to train, and even then it gets confused because it cannot 'think.'  It also makes many errors that are hard to catch without very diligent proofreading.


Voice Recognition
Has anyone worked for a company that does voice recognition? Is it easy to get used to the software.  I have a job offer and would like some input.
Voice Recognition
I worked at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville and they had a pilot program for voice recognition.   Two transcriptionists spent their day editing and proofreading for a couple of doctors who had been hand picked for their clear English.   Around the time I left, the program was being scrapped due to too many bugs in the system, too time consuming for the transcriptionists and just not cost effective.   It's going to be a long time before they figure out how to make it work - thanks to foreign-speaking doctors
Voice Recognition & EMR
I am starting to be concerned about EMR and voice recognition taking our jobs.  I wonder if they will even need us in 5 years.  I know most hospitals tell everyone they will still need them as editors, but surely it will eliminate many jobs or they would not be willing to incur the expense of the new systems.  What do you think?
voice recognition
I think you will find this article interesting:




Voice Recognition

What can anyone tell me about VR? I have never used it, but I am about to start working for a company that does.  Thx!

voice recognition, if you know of any (sm)
companies who just do ERs please share. Thanks!!
Voice recognition
Am I the only one out here that feels VR is cheating us out of money for the same skills? I'm ENRAGED!
voice recognition
I have some experience with VR and it is not good.
If you are saying that it is just, I quote ...' files that you have to read through and 'fill in blanks'?
then allow me ro give you my experience.
The text documents that I received as a draft that the computer 'heard' and was printed out to be edited by me, contained whole sentences that did not belong there, not only words. And VR does not leave 'blanks', it just types wrong 'things' it hears. I don't kow how they came into these documents. I had to delete a lot. It was confusing.

VR = voice recognition (nm)
voice recognition
It is totally less pay for equal work.  Who ever heard of 5.95 cents per line.  I was making 10 cents a line 20 years ago.  I was a coder for 20 years without the CCS and am thinking about going ahead and getting that.  Local hospitals pay $28 for CCS, as much as a nurse!  What about transcriptionists?  We are getting the bumm end of the deal.
voice recognition
Has anyone who has worked on voice recognition made more or less money per line than regular systems?  Please share your experience good or bad.  Thanks.
Voice Recognition?

Just say no.

It is an editor's job with 50 to 60% more work for less money.  Just another exploitation of the hard work of a Transcriptionist for your expertise.  Obviously, voice recognition is not that efficient or they would not need you to "edit." 

One day, when these companies figure out how to get us all to work for free they will enact that, and tell us "what a privilege and honor it is for you to be selected to a part of this new cutting edge technology."

Yeah, right.  PFFTT!  What will surprise you is how many MTs actually stay to work for free because they blew smoke up their dress.  LOL.

Voice recognition
Well, well, well...I just got the phone call from my company today telling me the "Exciting News" about switching to voice recognition.  Yippeee!!!  Even better - my pay now goes from 10 cpl to a whopping 3 cpl!!  Wow - maybe that means I'll be able to afford that brand new Escalade I've had my eye on .  Actually, I'll be lucky if I can afford to buy a loaf of bread after this change happens in March.  We're all on a rapidly sinking ship - she's going down.  My question is what seems to be the going rate for voice recognition?  I feel like I'm living in India - 3 cpl!  That's the thanks I get for 10 years of experience.  Reduced to a third-world country wage...
Voice recognition
Well, well, well...I just got the phone call from my company today telling me the "Exciting News" about switching to voice recognition.  Yippeee!!!  Even better - my pay now goes from 10 cpl to a whopping 3 cpl!!  Wow - maybe that means I'll be able to afford that brand new Escalade I've had my eye on .  Actually, I'll be lucky if I can afford to buy a loaf of bread after this change happens in March.  We're all on a rapidly sinking ship - she's going down.  My question is what seems to be the going rate for voice recognition?  I feel like I'm living in India - 3 cpl!  That's the thanks I get for 10 years of experience.  Reduced to a third-world country wage...
Voice recognition
I thought the same thing as the doctor and 2 RN CNPs that work with him went that route rather than giving me that work.  However, they realized that if they spend an extra 20 minutes a day with fixing things on the VR, they can see an extra patient and do what they are best at, and give me the transcription work, which I am best at - a win/win for both of us!  Maybe this will give us all some hope for the future. 
Voice Recognition
Can anyone tell me if they actually make as much money doing mainly voice rec as they do just transcribing or not? Is 4 cpl for voice rec fair compensation?
Pay for Editing Voice Recognition

I am being paid 4 cpl for editing reports produced by voice recognition software (eScription).  Is 4 cpl the norm?  Are other companies paying more to edit voice recognition reports?

Does anyone use voice recognition to do their work?...
I have this one psychiatrist (long-winded) that I thought I might try to use voice recognition with. Does anyone have any experience with this? Could I hook him into the microphone jack or something and let it rip? Thanks for your help...
Voice recognition software (sm)
Asked this on equipment board also -- Can someone please help me out with voice recognition program/software for personal  use.  What are the names of some products available and where do I purchase this particular software.  Best Buy, Radio Shack, Circuit City, etc.?  Thanks for information.
re:Voice recognition software (sm)
Dragon Naturally Speaking

does MDI offer voice recognition?
Sounds interesting to me.  Would be curious to know if anyone is successful with VR and what companies offer it.
Don't confuse EMR with voice recognition
EMR is simply where the patient's records are kept in a computer database. Now HOW that record orginates depends on whether it is manually transcribed or is generated by a voice recognition program by the doctors. You need to ask the MDs how this will change how you do your work for them, (example if you're getting tapes now, will you be getting digital voice files and need a WAV pedal to transcribe?) or will it mean they will start using a service? You won't know by asking US....ask them.

good luck
It sounds like perhaps you are getting voice recognition to fix?? nm
Voice recognition question

I recently read an article about voice recognition with one of the "creators" stating that they still have a long way to go. 

My question is:  Does the machine type out everything?  I sometimes laugh at some of the things the doctor says.  They all have their quirks.  I have one that always coughing or clearing his throat, I have one that is always eating or chewing gum, I have another one that constantly sneezes,  don't forget the one that yawns through the whole dictation and of course the old doc that just can't get the whole technology thing and getting charts dictated on time thing who makes smarta-- comments and curses through it.  Are all these things included on the reports?

Back end voice recognition

My employer informed us they will be implementing a back end voice recognition program this year. I am looking for transcriptionists who are using this type of program in a large company such as a hospital, and how the transition affected their job and staffing as well. Thanks.
Voice recognition - does anyone use this for their transcription??? sm
I know of a couple of transcriptionists that use this with the MT company I work with.  They seem to struggle with it.  Does anyone use VR?  Just very curious if it helps production or if is more of a hassle to get it working right.  Thank you very much in advance. 
voice recognition questions...
The hospital I work for is looking into voice recognition for the Radiology Department, which is who I work for.  There are currently two radiologists on per day, with two full time transcriptionists.   How many editors would be needed if they decide to go that route, does anybody know?  I am afraid of losing my job, that they won't need transcriptionists any longer, and only one editor, and the other girl has been there longer.   Any insight on this would help!     Thanks. 
voice recognition question
My experience with VR: We had a doc who wanted this in our clinic. The head of clinic said no. This one went out on his own and is now paperless and uses VR and no transcriptionists. If he had stayed with us, I would have been out of a job. VR is improving rapidly. I have seen some of the products from his system and most of it is pretty good though some of it is not. It seems to be the wave of the future. I know this is rather negative but facts is facts..... If I wasn't already 65 years old I would be very concerned. It is an expensive thing to start up but once it gets rolling and everyone learns the ropes it works frightfully well.
positive voice recognition?
Are there any MTs on this board who are doing voice recognition work and enjoying the job and pay?
I am doing some voice recognition and I love it.
I wish I could do it all the time.
Some call it VR - voice recognition nm
Are you talking about voice recognition
Are you talking about a program where he talks and it types so that you no longer have a job?   There are several out there but why are you doing his research for him when it might take the account away from you -- unless you are taking about going digital where he sends the voice files to you.  Need to elaborate a little more as to what you are looking for.   All 7 of my docs still do tapes and will keep them there for as long as I can. 
Not just outsourcing, voice recognition also.
Yes, it has been done to get hospitals out of debt - we're doing right here where I work.

I left MT'ing at home several years ago as I saw the downward slope that was coming on - my MTSO lost several of her accounts to VR and Outsourcing - after 25 years of excellent service and reasonable rates. I look at it as it served me well while raising children and wanting to be at home, but time goes on and now I like the set hours, the benefits and the socialization that comes with being out of the house.

I agree - I think that the at-home MT career is not as lucrative as it once was and question that it ever will be again. "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket" is the expression that comes to mind!
ROTFL - and especially fun in voice recognition -
and those of you who find it necessary to give directions like "enter two times" and HEENT "all capitals" also make it really fun.