Home     Contact Us    
Main Board Job Seeker's Board Job Wanted Board Resume Bank Company Board Word Help Medquist New MTs Classifieds Offshore Concerns VR/Speech Recognition Tech Help Coding/Medical Billing
Gab Board Politics Comedy Stop Health Issues
ADVERTISEMENT




Serving Over 20,000 US Medical Transcriptionists

Shorthand will work with Cerner, but... SM

Posted By: RockinMT on 2008-09-18
In Reply to: Cerner/Citrix and Shortand - frances

your hospital IT department will probably tell you it won't work and you will probably also be told you cannot load personal software on hospital-owned equipment.  There is a way around this, however.  If you have a jump/flash drive you can download the SH program for their website when asked where to save the download file, choose your jump drive (it is drive F: on my PC, maybe different on yours). 


Once the file is downloaded, open up your jump drive and double click on the install icon.  When you get to the step of the installation that asks where you want to install the program (usually defaults to C:programs) change that to your jump drive.  Then install the program.  Now, the program is installed on your jump drive.  You can take your jump drive and plug it in to any PC, open up your drive, double click on the SH icon to run the program, and the SH program will run in the background on whatever PC you are using (you will see the SH icon in your right lower corner with your clock).  It is not installed on the PC, so you are not breaking any "rules" that the hospital may have.  Once you are done for the day, double click the SH icon and shut down the program and unplug your dive.  No one will ever know.  It'll be your little secret.


I did this for years.  I worked on Cerner RadNet and got the same run around about Expander programs.  I just did it myself and nobody ever knew.


Good Luck!




Complete Discussion Below: marks the location of current message within thread

The messages you are viewing are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu


Other related messages found in our database

I work for a hospital that has Cerner Classic Radnet and a service that sm
uses Cerner Millenium Radnet. The two are completely different. The Classic version does EXACTLY what you described with ShortHand but they found a solution at the hospital. I will look at it on Wednesday when I go to work. I'm embarassed to say that I have used it for so long that I don't pay attention anymore and can't remember the name of the program.


I just work with ShortHand minimized. Smarttype doesn't work the same way? nm
s
Cerner is a pie system for MTs...(sm)
A hospital I used to work for went to Cerner about a year before I left.  It was very nice for the MTs compared to the dinosaur system we had before it.  The front office and billing I cannot say were so happy about it..and expect alot of headaches throughout your department until they get used to it.  But as far as the MT side of it..it was great.  LOVED the lil "sticky notes" you could enter on a document to bring something to the rad's attention before they could sign it off. 
Incentive by minutes with Cerner
Hi -
The hospital I work for went with Cerner a year or so ago. Their software is so bad, our required minutes were lowered to 80 minutes/8hr. Incentive starts at 91.3 min/8hr.
Cerner/Citrix and Shortand
I am fairly new to this hospital which uses Cerner with something called Citrix.  We type in Word within their program so can use Autocorrect and Autotext. I have asked around to a manager and a couple employee and it seems no one is aware of a word Expander program other than those with Word, that can be used without problems.  Apparently the hospital transcription department has tried Smarttype but that did not work right.  I'm wondering if anyone has had success with ShortHand for Windows and this program.  It seems to be a program that works with most systems.  Has anyone had any success with Cerner and shorthand?  Thanks. 
I used Shorthand in CS.net - it should work
XX
Thanks for your input. We type regular medical reports in Meditech and radiology in Cerner. SM

I am really considering presenting the idea that we measure productivity on minutes transcribed instead of lines.  I don't know if management will go for it, but it seems like the best scenario considering all the trouble we've had.


Thanks again!


How did you get Shorthand to work with Medrite?
nm
Does PC Shorthand work in Radnet?../nm
xx
Does Shorthand work with Chartnet?

Does ShortHand for windows work with plantform Charnet?  Thanks.


Shorthand does not work well with Emdat.

Need to find an Expander that will expand properly in any platform being that the right working situation for me is so hard to find.


Any suggestions?


TIA


I work for transcend and use shorthand. nm
x
Tryign to use ShortHand with Bayscribe and cannot get it to work - has anyone done this and how did
nm
Does Shorthand work with Medical Spellcheckers?

Just getting to know the Expander program "Shorthand", and saw that it says to shut off all spell-checkers.  Does that mean that I cannot run Spellex or another Medical Spell Check program with it?  Has anyone any suggestions as to what they use?   Or any "work-arounds" 


I am just getting started and trying to decide if I like "As-U-Type" or "Shorthand" better as my word expander.  It seems that "Shorthand" does not act like a spell-checker like "As-u-Type" does, so need to add one.....preferrably a medical one.


 


PC Shorthand...Does it work in Emdat and Chartscript??
If so how do I go about setting up to work?
Yes, it is called ESP. Instant Text and Shorthand work
x
Shorthand 10 and Instant Text V both work on Vista sm
Don't know what you consider "not too much money," but this is a piece of your arsenal you don't want to skimp on. You should get the absolute best you can afford -- if you put the time and energy into making the software work for you, it will for itself in no time.
Does PC ShortHand work on Emdat or Word Client?
And if so how do I get it to work when using these platforms?
How do you get the shorthand word expander to work in 'word client'?
nt
I totally agree, the company I work for is switching from IT to Shorthand :( yuck!
xxx
Meditech questions and Cerner questions. Any input is appreciated. SM

I just recently went back to work in the office at a local hospital. We type in both Meditech and Cerner, depending on what you are typing, i.e. Medical Records reports versus Radiology.  We are currently typing blindly in Meditech, meaning we do not have access to our line counts and must depend on management to give us our totals.  In Cerner, we are able to run a line count report and print out a hard copy of our line counts at the end of the day.

We are finding that 800 lines in Cerner equals about 500 lines in Meditech.  We are not paid per line nor do we have an incentive plan, but we have a new HIM Director who would like to institute an incentive plan and the administrator over our department has laid down the law and decreed that all transcriptionists not making minimum in the department will be written up.  Problem is according to Meditech line totals that we have been given, that would be about half the department.

The transcription supervisor has taken our concerns to the new director who told the MT Supervisor to hold off on writing people and has taken home all the line counts from the last month and she is going over them with a fine tooth comb this weekend.

I am not a very trusting soul by nature, so I am doing a little research on my own.  I've been in this business for about 15 years.  I started out in a hospital and have worked for a few services at home and am now back in the hospital setting.  So I know a few things about line count and I consider myself to be pretty well informed on trends and technology in the industry.   I would like to walk into our next department meeting armed with as much knowledge as possible.  So I have come up with some questions that I would like some fellow MTs to answer, give opinions, and maybe even direct me to websites or individuals who could give me a better understanding of Meditech and Cerner.  Here are my questions:

 


  1. Is it possible for an MT to have access to her line count in Meditech or is strictly a management function?  Any MTs that work in Meditech on this board, do you currently have access to your line counts and if so, how do you check them?  Is it an option on the main menu after you log into Meditech?

  2. How is a line defined in Meditech?  (i.e. 65 cpl, with spaces, without spaces)

  3. How is a line defined in Cerner?

  4. What abbreviation Expanders work with both Meditech and Cerner?

  5. Examples of incentive plans (if anyone would like to share that with me that would be great, if not I completely understand).

  6. Measuring productivity by minutes of dictation versus typed lines.


    1. What would be the minimum minutes required for an 8-hour day?

    2. How would one structure an incentive program based on minutes?

I was thinking of presenting the idea that we keep track of productivity using minutes instead of lines since there is such a discrepancy in Meditech.  I also worry that if an incentive plan is put into place and we are still typing blind into Meditech, what's to keep management from shaving off a few lines here and there?


Feel free to email me or post here any responses.  Either is fine.  I really appreciate any input, comments, or just plain old supportive posts would be nice too! 




SpeedType and Shorthand are the exact same program. Shorthand is lots cheaper and also has a trial.
.
{@KEY BkSp}-pack-per-year is for Shorthand. Using the semicolon works with both Shorthand and

;yo = -year-old


;py= -pack-year


etc...


Shorthand and SpeedType are exact same program. Shorthand will cost you lots less.
you can import your autocorrect into Shorthand.
I took shorthand too. But it sure comes in helpful for my expanders. I view words in shorthand for
i did use shorthand once in a job but i was so nervous the "boss" took pity and dictated the report on dictaphone.
If it is Shorthand, save the SPF file to a disk, then if you buy Shorthand yourself....
you can just drop the SPF file into it. That is not dishonest since you are the one who put the macros in. I am sure is it is another Expander there is a way to save the macro file and then drop it in the expander you buy on your own.
HELP with Shorthand. Suddenly today when I tried to start work today.sm

my ShortHand would type only the first letter of an expansion and then take all the letters away!  I checked and the Type It button is grayed out!  I have restarted the computer and looked on the Shorthand Help menu but can find nothing that applies.  Can anyone please help me ASAP?  I am lost without it!  TIA


I have never found a program shorthand does not work with, it works outside the program (I think tha
nm
I get my work from an FTP site that they load the work to, however I don't have pool work so to
speak, but I tell them how many minutes a day I want.  The work is generally put in my box by 5 pm every day, then I have until 10 am the following day for some priority work, or 3:30 pm for the rest, so TAT is not too bad. I would like to work less at night though, but I working on that. My downside is I do not get the same dictators day to day, there are a few I do on a semi-regular basis though, some generate great lines but take longer to do that other doc's and are not "money-makers", I also do not get paid for spaces so that hurts a bit too.  This is WP5.1 too.....so very antiquated but that is what the hospital uses, so not much choice there. But I understand what you mean about the C-phone. I was just doing another job with C-phone recently...they incidentally did not tell me how to get off of the system, which was very simple.  I'd finish a job, then hit stop and hangup if I wanted to get off or quit working.  That is what you need to do if you want to sleep, eat, etc.  Don't feel guilty, do what you signed up for, believe me they watch the pools and will get others to do the work you don't finish.  If they get on your case remind them that you are only PT and only want 500 lines a day, etc.  It's not worth killing yourself over.  Good Luck.
Shorthand ? sm
Is Shorthand compatible with and is it much different than the standard autocorrect in Word?
I use Shorthand with DQS

It is very compatible.  You can set it up so that you can see a hint window while you type.  I tried using the built in Expander in DQS, and you have to have a great memory, because there is no hint window or suggestion window, like Smartype.  I also know that Instant Text is compatible with DQS, also; but I prefer Shorthand.  I hear so many great things about Smartype and wish I could learn it, but it won't work with DQS; however, there is a way you can get around that.  You can use Smartype and transcribe in Word, set your font size to 14 and save your file in Rich Text Format, then copy and paste into the DQS platform.  Then select all and hit Ctrl 5 to get the spacing right.  It sounds like a lot of steps and you will also lose your place as far as leaving any QA markers, so I personally don't care for the hassle, but I know of some MTs that do it that way, so you can try it.


Hope this helps. 


shorthand
cool, i'll look into that thanks
Shorthand SM
Shorthand should work with ChartScript, since ChartScript uses Microsoft Word, but you would want to disable ChartScript's built in expander.  If you are referring to ChartScript.net, Shorthand should work in that too.
shorthand
Wow! Thanks! I had asked that question a little while ago on the production board.
shorthand sm
Where did you find a free program? Did it load right into Word for Windows?
Shorthand
The Hospital I came from uses Meditech with Shorthand-, works fine. There is something built into Meditech like a word Expander but everyones stuff mixes in together and was a nightmare- love shorthand.
Shorthand
I would be very interested.
shorthand
I use ShortHand with Meditech. Works great....
In Shorthand, there must be (sm)
a shortcut key or something that allows you to add on the fly?? The only thing I see is to actually open the ShortHand window then I can click the insert button on my keyboard or click on the little "add" icon. Is there a key combination for doing this while I am in the document - to just bring that "add" window up?
I use Shorthand. nm
x
Shorthand
Is there a way to copy text with bold headers into shorthand, bold headers and all? The text copies fine but I have to go back and use the special keys for adding the bold back in at every header because the bold from the finished text will not carry over. I've gone through the help section but maybe I'm not asking "how to" the right way. It just seems that my old version of SH carried everything over, but I can't remember. Anyhow, if anyone has the answer, would appreciate it.
Shorthand
No, you hit Ctrl K and B before the entry, type the entry how you want it, and then hit Ctrl K and B again to toggle the bolding off.  It will come up with a little window showing you the B is the next key typed or something to that effect, and you click 'OK' both times that window comes up.
Shorthand
If you need everything in CAPS use CAPS Lock. If you only want the first letter of the sentence just do as you would for a regular sentence by holding down the Shift key and type the first letter whatever it may be. It will bring up your expansion with the first letter only capitalized.
Need help w/Shorthand 9
I downloaded the 30-day trial of Shorthand.  I cannot figure out how to bold a word in MSWord.  Every time I try to input CTL+B into the expansion, the program puts the - {@KEY - or something like that.  I have read and tried everything I could find in the Help section with no luck.  Can someone type out what I need to input to get a word capitalized and bolded.  I would really, really appreciate the help.  I am thinking it must be something super easy that I am just not getting!  TIA
I really like Shorthand
I worked for MQ and liked the expansion program. With my new company I have Shorthand. I really like it. You can try it out for a 30-day period and see if you like it before you buy it.
Shorthand!

Is there a way you can import addresses into ShortHand all at once, instead of one by one?


Thanks in advance!


Shorthand
There is an AWESOME board you can join that will help also. It is productivity talk, and it is at http://www.productivitytalk.com/

It will not only help you with ShortHand but also with Instant Text, Smartype (sp?) and MS Word.
shorthand help
Does anyone know how to add to ShortHand the following:  PLa then subscript the #2 in font of 8 instead of 12.  It is annoying to keep going to font size and then to subscript and then back to font size and then back to no subscript.  I am looking for an easy fix, any help?
Shorthand
We can I go to buy Shorthand?
Shorthand
I have been trying to order ShortHand for over a week now and their web site is down. Are they out of business? Any info? Thanks!
PRD to ShortHand

I worked for 25+ years in WP for DOS and used PRD.  I loved it.  This year I changed to WORD and was able to use ShortHand from the first day.  The file conversion from my PRD to ShortHand was quick and easy.  One thing I really like is that the length of the short form is not limited, sometimes with PRD I wanted "just one more letter." 


I have not learned how to write the neat macros I had in WP5.1 that would switch from document 1 to document 2, search and copy, and then paste.  I will do anything to keep from using the mouse.  Like I said before, it's all new to me this year, but I am learning.  One reason I held off the switch to WORD for so long was that I would not stop using my beloved PRD. 


Anyway, as far as I can tell, in ShortHand there is NO LIMIT to the number of abbreviations you can have in a directory, and no limit to the number of directories you can have.  So you could have one dedicated to surgeries, and another for discharge summaries, and it's easy to switch them. 


And after all these years, I found WORD was not really that technical or difficult to learn.  Whichever Expander you choose, I hope it works out for you like it did for me.