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So your answer to the the OP's burnout

Posted By: is to make a post where you are on 2007-05-14
In Reply to: reply - mtqueenB

the boss and I am a child.  If that is what you got out of the post, then I AM SO RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!! 


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    Three-job burnout
    A co-worker took on a second and now a third job. I can see where in trying to get a "balance" her work is suffering especially in turnaround time and also some quality issues. I believe that if you take on additional work, your first obligation is to your first job, second obligation to your second job, and so on. If the second and/or third jobs pay more, that matters not. I think it is called honoring your committment. Anyhow, too much work will eventually leave you burned out and you may end up sick and/or running as far as you can from this work. Would think very carefully about divying yourself up into too many pieces. Best regards.
    BURNOUT?
    So, if your post is correct it seems you probably need a vacation, at least. I have done what you say you do and, believe me, it can suck you dry. It is hard to do so many things 24/7/365, used to find myself sitting in my chair at home in the same pajamas I had on 14 hours before. I found I needed a better quality of life. My best advice to you is to take a break and post us when you get back and feel better and not so offensive/defensive. Good luck.
    burnout
    WOW - I couldn't have said anything better than these posters. Have been there several times over the past 25 years - the last after my son died, and am so thankful I didn't get fired the several years it took me to get back up to speed afterward. Truly, maybe working inhouse would be a good thing for a while for you.

    Love, blessings, hugs, understanding.
    Burnout
    Would it be possible for you to take a part-time job doing something -anything - else to get out of the house and be with people and cut down a bit on your transcription hours?  I know you have to make your bills, but if you're not producing would you be losing a lot by trying something else?  Or maybe at least ask for a different account?  Or maybe find a different service for whom to work?  I know this is scary to think about, much less do, particularly as we age.  My guess is I'm a bit older than you, having been in transcription for 31 years, but perhaps not.  Perhaps you are a late bloomer (she smiles).  I've been where you are, and sadly, the road I'm traveling down at the moment is starting to look familiar, like I'm headed back to that same spot.  In my case, the first time around, I took a temporary part-time job in Geographic Information Systems for a local municipality.  I'd taken the classes for fun at the junior college but had no experience.  I was given very low-level work, but it was different from transcription, I was learning more about GIS than I had at school, I loved it and the people were super!  When I came home to start transcribing, I was in a much better mood and production increased.  I hope you can find something, because your pain is coming through loud and clear.
    ahh, burnout

    After about 12 years of being an MT, I found myself suffering from burnout.  Right about that time, I was offered the job of 1st & 2nd grade teacher at the tiny Christian school my kids attended.  I was really looking forward to something new.  After only 2 months, I was over my burnout but I was committed to finish out the rest of the school year.  It was the longest 7 months of my life.   


    I think the burnout came from having had the same account for so long (nearly 10 years).  Every day was the same.  Maybe just learning a new account or a new specialty would help you get over the burnout.  Although I hate the pay cut that invariably comes with any new account, I always feel proud of myself for rising to the challenge and learning new things.  It keeps things interesting. 


    This may sound silly, but do you have any scenery where you transcribe?  I sit in front of a picture window in my office and watch the birds and squirrels.  I have become quite an avid birdwatcher while I work.  It doesn't take a lot of time out of the day, but it gives me something else to look at besides the computer screen. 


    on the edge of burnout
    It sounds like you're on the edge of burnout.  I was there a few years ago.  You just have to force yourself to stop working at 5 (or whenever your shift is done) and close the door and not look back at that computer.
    Dealing with burnout

    Hi:


    Is anyone out there dealing with burnout due to their transcription job? I have been doing this for 7 years as an Independent with only 1 vacation in that time. I work weekends and holidays and feel like I am about ready to yank my freaking hair out from the responsibility!!!


    Lynn


    How do you handle burnout as MT? Any
    suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've only been doing this for 7-1/2 years and I've about had it with all the junk.
    severe burnout

    I just can't do MT anymore.  I've been doing it for 30 years, the last 6 with a national that begins and ends with an S.  I so tired of their lies and garbage.   I also edit as an IC which I enjoy but can't get steady hours.  I'm presently on intermittent FMLA from "S" for my mom who is a paraplegic and they're giving me all kinds of grief over it.   My supervisor is doing everything she can to put roadblocks in front of me. She won't me change accounts permanently.  I get put on an account I'm good at and can get good line counts on for awhile and then I'm put back on the account I told her I hate and can't make money on.  This happens over and over again.  She also won't let me taking an editing job or change my hours.   I received their "certificates" for quality and attendance, but not for production which is the only thing they care about since only 62% of the company made 98% or more quality.  Some days I just can't sit and work.  I'm totally burned out and the above doesn't help.


    I'd leave in a minute if I thought another place would be better, but I'm not convinced it would be.  Add to that the fact that I only have dial-up, need health insurance as I am single and can't afford a good computer at this time. 


    Sorry for the long post.  Just needed to vent.  Has anyone been in this situation?  What can I do?   I'm working 50-60 hours a week and still can't make a living.  I'm really ready to go on welfare rather than keep working.


     


    burnout/changing companies
    Hi everyone - I post here frequently but I need to remain anonymous for this one; hope you understand.

    I'm looking for thoughts from MTs about whether switching to a different company alleviated burnout. I am trying to figure out if it's MT itself, or just the service I work for, that is causing my severe burnout.

    I'm on the verge of hauling myself to a doctor for antidepressants (paying out of pocket, of course... no psych insurance coverage as an IC!) and my line counts have dropped drastically. I have bilateral CTS to boot. I'm struggling pretty badly with all the "classic" burnout signs.

    Thanks all!
    Taking a vacation due to burnout
    MTs to boost production.  Having contests to see who can do the most is more like something a 12-year-old would do in my opinion.  Furthermore, this is not a game people play.  This is a job.  The doctors are relying on transcriptionists to do a good job.  We cry we want more money, we have to work for it, and then we cry that we're burned out????      Get a life!
    Plain and simple burnout.

    I used to carry two pagers for two hospitals all by myself, 24/7.  They went off maybe a couple of times a month.  The chore of being on-call is now shared with a few other people but now the after-hour pages come in nonstop and I don't know why.  Me thinks some deal was made to keep an account or something but I really am just pulling that answer out of my tuckas.  It's gotta be costing the hospitals a mint to have us at their beck and call like that....either that or they got a really sweet deal. 


    The other issue is it used to be a much more laid back environment.  You logged on, did your work, and you were left alone.  You kept an eye out for stats yourself and took care of them, because you are there because you are responsible. 


    Now you log on, strike up this thing called Instant Messenger, and sit there at your desk working your alloted shift but can't get up because you must be present if you get an IM for a stat...even though you are already on it because it's your job to be.  Want to take a break?  Yeah, sure, once you finish up this stat.  Oh wait, I've got another one here that needs to be done super duper stat....you know what I'm talkin' about too, lurkers.


    Ya know the movie, Office Space?  I'm always referring to it with this company.  You know the scene with the TPS reports, where the fella has 4 bosses telling him the same darned thing even though you already know your job?  That's what I'm dealing with and, yeah, I've been reduced to the mumbling dude who worries about his stapler.


    I don't blame my bosses at all, but the micromanaging thing is out of control and I have no idea why it has come to be, because it wasn't like this before.  The days of a happier Hayseed with high line counts and company pride are long gone.  I don't know who works there anymore as the folks I knew have all left, and that's made an impact as well.  Ask for new scenery because of burnout, and all you get is a strokin', nothing more. 


     


    Contracts....burnout.......etc....open and read
    Hello--

    I was just reading your post and I do understand where you are coming from. First of all, let me start by saying I will never do a non-contracted job again and every job that I have is contracted. :)

    Secondly, I know how you feel about being "stuck inside"--Yep, been there, done that....burnout. I was so ready to go to work in the big world again. So, I left transcription at home, hired a babysitter and went to work in my secondary field as a medical assistant. After three months of it, I was so ready to come back home, and I missed my transcription so badly...AND MY KIDS.

    I came back home, been here again for over a year. I can say it is better this time around, I appreciate MT more and I am absolutely taking in every moment I can with my kids. At least I know when my babies get sick, I will be the one nurturing them..and bringing home a paycheck at the same time. :)

    Sometimes it is hard to balance everything at once, and the thought of going back outside the home to work seems like an easy answer, but believe me, it is better to be home. :)
    I suffered from major burnout about 4 years ago. sm

    Was at a major company that I liked for a year, then they made some changes and it was a nightmare for the second year.  I went to a smaller company for awhile, they were great but I found it harder and harder to sit down and pull reports.  I got to the point I was only doing about 300 lines a day.  I made a change to a small company as IC, and chose one where so many minutes were dumped on me for the day.  I knew I had to finish those minutes, and before I knew it I was back to about 800 lines a day, six days a week.  That is all I can do without developing CT myself; I have learned this over the years.  Now I'm starting some editing part time, so I can earn more without losing the use of my hands.


    If you already have CT, you might have to get into something different, like editing.  It doesn't seem realistic to keep working, knowing you're doing more damage and will shortly be unable to work anyway.  I'd be looking for a change.


    Whatever you do, try to find the motivation that works.  I didn't find thinking about unpaid bills or setting a financial goal each month helped, it just made me depressed when I couldn't reach it.  I focused on the positive, like being able to do 50 lines more daily this week than last, adding minutes each week until I reached my goal.  I also make sure to take two weeks off at different times each year and go some place at least once, something I neglected for years.  I come back refreshed.


    Best of luck to you; it's a difficult situation.


     


    I read a book once that burnout was caused by being out of balance. sm
    Working too much and not giving time to other parts of your life is the culprit in the job arena. Variety is the spice of life, so focusing on balancing your job, your need for a good cash flow, with times to enjoy yourself is essential.

    It takes work, and fortunately I have an S/O that demands that I take time for us to have fun and for "me" to have fun as an individual.

    A simple google search will give you your answer...I'd give you the answer,
    but how would that help you learn to research on your own...and I'm in a rush to get to the next post. 
    Answer

    Yes, of course I'm half afraid if I leave him I won't find someone else and half afraid that I will!!  I'm old enough and had enough good and bad times with men that I really don't think it would be the end of the world if I lived the rest of my life alone.  It's maybe what I would not choose but it might have some positives in the long run.  At least that's what I tell myself when I'm feeling good, during the middle of the night is another story....


    Break-ups are tough.  How do you stay on course.  You get lonely, you miss him, you doubt your judgment, you want to try again, you tell yourself maybe you were too hard on him......


    I think I should go to a counselor, it's just that it's quite expensive and as I said, I'll be paying for it out of pocket.  I think they will tell me pretty much what you have.


    It sounds like things have worked out for you.  I thank you for your insight and help.


    Answer
    The payperiod I average 16,000 lines is a bimonthly payperiod. It runs 1st through the 15th and 16th through end of the month. It is WAY more than the minimum requirement. I am EXPECTED (with that employer) to do a minimum of 6000 lines per payperiod but the incentive is just too good to pass up.

    See my post below if you want to know more. Or ask me. I'm not hiding anything. I'll tell you straight up what works for me.
    Yea.. I used to think that. Now, for me, the answer is, no.

    but again, you should go for it.  You might love the challenge and have a really great team that will help you not have to roast over the flames.  Its always possible! 


    Godspeed my friend, do it if you want to.  It really might be the best thing you ever did!  Or not, but either way, you will know for sure! 


    I can only answer for myself. sm
    I never applied for a supervisor's job.  When the super quit because of stress I was asked (no begged) to take the job (in the office) until a qualified supervisor could be hired.  Time dragged on until I finally had to say either a supervisor was hired in 2 weeks or I would be quitting in two weeks.  I never enjoyed being "the boss," don't know why...I just didn't. Another thing.....I abolutely HATE being told lies.  I was told by an MT that she couldn't cover her 3rd shift assignment (guess who did cover it) because her grandmother had died...that was the 6th time AFTER I started counting, no telling how many grandmother's she had all told.  I guess some people enjoy being the boss for one reason or another.
    my first answer is, of course, neither but (sm)
    if I HAD to choose, I guess I'd say A...rather give it to some poor children than some rich b****.
    a better answer would have been

    leaving off the "jerk" comment, and recommend that people contact the MQ office they are affiliated with to see what that particular office wants them to do.


    Anyone doing DQS...please answer this for me.

    When I need to enter a NEW HEADING, I type it in, then it brings up a new box that says "type in new heading"...I finish typing it, hit OK or whatever, and it puts the new heading in my report.


    BUT...it doesn't KEEP The new heading!  ARG!  It stays on the drop down list of headings for THAT REPORT ONLY but then when I do a new report, the new heading never shows up.


    What am I doing wrong?  Help!! 


    answer
    I don't quite understand what you mean by the style they prefer, I worked there 4+ years, it is either feast or famine, not a very honest bunch.  You can make money for short periods of time until they over hire and run the account out of work and make promises to you they won't keep.  They don't have very good communication and rarely return calls or emails.  Their platform is not too bad, seen better, but easy to use.  I would like clarification though by what you mean by the style they prefer?
    the answer is
    New blood who don't ask for much, job a low line rate and glad to have a job. They don't see that the experienced workers will soon all be gone.
    Got my answer!!!
    I have been asking for months, "WHERE ARE ALL THE DOCTORS I CAN UNDERSTAND, I CAN'T MAKE MINIMUM LINE COUNT ANY MORE". I do not do ASR but my account is on it and I have been screaming for months that I can't even use my expansions anymore, that I have used for years. They are going to hear from me again. They respond to me like I am crazy, well I know now that they know why!!!

    THANKS!!!
    Well, what is your answer, I'm
    Where did O'Reilly get his stats?

    HOUSEHOLD INCOME DOWN, POVERTY UP:
    MORE THAN 1 MILLION FELL OF MIDDLE CLASS IN 2004

    Before President Bush took office, under Democratic leadership, income was on the rise, jobs were expanding, and the economy was booming. Today, the Census Bureau announced that real household income has decreased in 2004, falling for the fourth consecutive year. Since the beginning of the Bush Administration, household income has declined nearly $1,700. Over 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office. Despite this, Republicans still have no plan to help struggling middle class families. Democrats are fighting to create jobs and keep good paying jobs here at home.
    HOUSEHOLD INCOME DROPPED SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE

    Household Income Declined by Nearly $1,700 Under Bush. For the second consecutive year, median household income declined: income dropped last year by $93 -- down to $44,389. In real terms, median household income has declined by $1,669 since 2000. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table A-1]

    African Americans And Latino Household Incomes Have Declined by More Than $2,000 Under Bush. Real median household income did not increase between 2003 and 2004 for African Americans and Latinos. African American households had the lowest median income, at $30,134--down by $2,273 since Bush took office. Median income for Hispanic households was $34,241 in 2004--down by $2,141 since Bush took office. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table A-1]

    Average Earnings by Women Declined by About $330 in Real Dollars During the Past Year. The median earnings of women declined over the past year, from $31,550 to $31,223. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table A-2]
    1.1 MILLION PEOPLE FELL OUT OF THE
    MIDDLE CLASS AND INTO POVERTY IN 2004

    Number of People Living in Poverty Increased by 1.1 Million in 2004. Approximately 1.1 million people fell out of the middle class into poverty in 2004, an increase of 5.4 million people living in poverty since Bush took office in 2001. The poverty rate has increased from 12.5 to 12.7 percent over the past year, increasing for the fourth consecutive year. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-1]

    Nearly 1 in 5 American Children Lived in Poverty During 2004. 13 million children lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of about 1.4 million since the beginning of the Bush Administration. This comes on the heels of a 730,000 increase in the number of children living in poverty in 2003. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table B-2 ]

    Disproportionately High Number of African Americans and Latinos Live in Poverty. Nearly 25 percent of all African Americans (9 million) lived in poverty in 2004, an increase of over 250,000 over the past two years. Nearly 22 percent (9.1 million) of Latinos lived in poverty, an increase of almost 500,000 over the past two years. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table 3]

    1.9 Million More Americans Enrolled in Medicaid in 2004. As 1.1 million Americans dropped out of the middle class and into poverty in 2004, the enrollment rate in Medicaid increased from 12.4 percent of the population in 2003 to 12.9 percent in 2004. Without the safety net of Medicaid and SCHIP for people who dropped into poverty, the health insurance numbers would be even worse. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05, page 16 ]
    NEARLY 46 MILLION AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE: NUMBER OF UNINSURED INCREASED BY SIX MILLION SINCE 2001

    Today, the Census Bureau announced that the number of people without health insurance nationwide increased to 45.8 million, the fourth consecutive annual increase. A total of 800,000 Americans became uninsured last year - many because fewer employers offer health insurance to their workers. As a consequence, American families are paying higher and higher health insurance premium - which are expected to double under Bush's tenure by 2006. Yet, Bush and Congressional Republicans lack a real plan to address the problem.
    ONE IN 7 AMERICANS LACK HEALTH INSURANCE

    Nearly 46 Million Americans Are Uninsured--Increasing for the Fourth Year in a Row. The number of Americans lacking health insurance increased by 800,000 last year--and by 6 million since Bush took office in 2001. Today, a total of 45.8 million people are uninsured--roughly one in seven Americans. [U.S. Census Bureau, 8/30/05; Table HI-4]

    Answer
    No, I don't work for that office. Mine is out of Baltimore and I have to admit that I have really really liked most of the folks I have had contact with. My current supervisor is wonderful!!! Pretty much always have lots of work available. My only complaint is my secondary account is not so hot (but LOVE my primary) and have never had a raise in 8 years (hmmmph), but other than that I'm quite happy.

    We have a cabin up north where DSL is not available, only dial-up, so I work on a laptop and take it with me when we go up there. Very nice.
    Answer
    Yes, obviously if I am to purchase a home, all the expenses that come with home ownership are coming out of my income alone. I do not pay anything currently except the phone bill, some groceries, ins for car, and gas, and I have lots extra that I spend frivously that obviously needs to stop.
    answer to ?
    What type of exam, nuclear medicine or US?
    My answer
    I have heard a doctor say this like "subsonometer" and it is just the way they talk and they mean subcentimeter. This is what I have experienced anyways.
    Here is the answer.
    Where you have to fill in all of these numbers before you can even start typing.
    Answer (SM)
    I am not the only Moderator. I'm not sure why your "apology" post was deleted.

    If a post is deleted and there are replies attached to it, all are deleted. We cannot stop attached posts from being deleted.

    Moderator
    Answer me this...

    Does your mortgage company - the telephone company - the phone company - the cable company, etc. discount your bill if you pay on time or do they add a late fee if they don't receive your payment on time?


    I don't agree you should reward a company to do something they should normally do - something that's considered a basic in good business - paying on time.  


     


    Answer (SM)
    It will be best if you e-mail the Administrator directly; she can help you with the chat problem. Her e-mail is admin@mtstars.com.

    Moderator
    Answer...
    These earphones do reduce a lot of the noise and seem to bring the doc's voice into focus. They'd be worth a shot I bet. I paid $50 at Transcription Gear. They have a 30 day money back guarantee. Good luck!
    Answer : )
    No, you don't. It is all run through your internet connection. You have to have either a cable or DSL internet connection in order to use it.
    Boy oh boy, can I answer this one.

    I am currently researching keyboards, too.  I got an Ergo Flex something.  It was three separate units mounted on a metal base.  I THOUGHT I would be able to take units off base and put back on if I wanted but once those things are off, they are off for good.  It didn't matter though. I had my brother rig up a dowel for each arm chair and then fix the keyboard pieces onto those dowels.  Then I ace wrapped dowels to arms ( and that was much steadier than I expected) and off I went.  The problem was the units were fixed on the end of the dowels and they need to be on a swivel of some sort to allow for fine tuning the positioning.  Also, the units are a faily smallish keyboard, smaller than what I am using and that was an issue.  I also found that kicked back in the chair and comfy, I was almost too comfy. It seemed to slow me down. True, all of these things alone wiill slow you down, but I think even with practice, I wouldn't be as fast. I finally put them away as it was taking up alot of time and line count.


    Now for the second issue.  As far as keyboards that separate completely or are connected at the top.  If you have a bit of a protruberant belly (as my doctor so gently puts it, lol) as I do, the kind that separate completely would be better.  Also, I think being able to have the units at shoulder width would be better.  I am currently using a Gold Touch which I love because it does separate an okay amount for me and like that it tents up, keeping my hands in a more neutral, hand-shake position.  I think a big comfort issue is having your hands in a hand-shake position as opposed to having to turn them flat down as for a flat keyboard. 


    answer...sm
    Yes, I actually nursed my baby while typing...I just latched him on (he was a small infant at the time) and held him in my lap while I typed. It's really not that hard once you get the baby latched on and in a comfy position for you both. This was 7 years ago and thank goodness, no more of that! But, I did what I had to do to nurse my son and also make money!
    Your answer sm
    Thanks for answering my post. This is the first time I had the guts to tell anyone my story. I was worried I would talk someone out of a mastectomy who needed one but I think it's important to "question" and get other opinions. I hope I am doing the right thing. I think I am by at least promoting the fact that we do have "choices" and we should utilize them. I do hope those who can't afford a mammogram will use all the resources they have to push for the "right" to have one. I sure hope that day comes for everyone, instead of waiting until it's too late. Thanks for your kind words. Sometimes this board can be "unforgiving" and I really don't need or want that kind of feedback. Just sharing my story. Hope it helps someone one day.
    ah, that is your answer then
    It is definitely a compatibility issue where ST is not "handshaking" properly with Word.  Even if you use Word independently of ExText but have ExText on your computer, it can cause compatibility issues.  You may need to get ShortHand and pull all your abbreviations over into it. 
    I know you probably won't want to answer this, but
    could you let me know the company you are with? Thanks if you do.
    Answer
    Two reasons:
    1. We have an Equipment board and Technical board for these types of posts.

    2. The thread was instigating the promotion of competitive websites.

    If you leave a Reply By E-Mail option available and I am removing your post, I will e-mail you why.

    Goldbird

    That was the best answer...
    in response to this whole section that I have seen. I don't think it could have possibly been said better. Best of luck to you and your family
    Thanks for the answer, but....

    Even you see two possible boards. Isn't this some indication that there are so many ill-defined boards that it is easy to be confused. Virtually every question that is not general would have to be technical, and what is general vs. main? Isn't software equipment? If not, why not call the forum hardware? Couldn't put my question there. That's three possibilities. I could go on, but the point is too obvious.

    It seems to me there should be a more polite response than just deleting a post so arbitrarily.
    answer
    I don't know if it is steel mesh, but it is a mesh, that has not sagged over the 7 years I have used it. I bought mine off ebay sight unsean for about $400 cheaper. I did go to a store though looking for an office chair originally and of course they had the aeron at the front of the store and I tried it out, big mistage, as no other chair in the store compared, that is when I looked for it on Ebay and bought it that way. I can't say enough good about this chair, I really don't think you will be making a mistake to get one any way you can. Good luck.
    I appreciate your answer. NM
    Thanks
    Do you know answer, please. nm
    x
    Here is your answer....

    If transcription is sent to the Phillippines (and yes it goes there too) at 6 cents/line (which is what I was quoted to have them do my work - though I won't send it to them - I was just curious about what they charge), and they have 3-tiers of editing; as an MTSO I get 12 cents/line, I would stand to profit 6 cents/line. Compare that rate to the rate MTs expect to get of 10-11 cents/line, and there is your answer. No matter who does the work (US versus offshore) MTSOs still need to have editing, right? So why not pay for the line rate as cheap as you can since the work has to be edited whether US or offshore MTs transcribe it? As a small MTSO, all the editing is done by me as nothing gets to my client without going through me first, so there would be my profit. I think these companies also truly believe that eventually India and Philippines will get MT down...makes you wonder, huh? Large Nationals are probably only having to pay 3-4 cents/line for offshore work, and they pay editors 3-4 cents/line, and suppose they are making at least 12 cents/line on their accounts (I expect they get more than that though), there is still a profit for them of 4-6 cents/line. It is a heck of a lot cheaper for them to outsource offshore than to pay US MTs 9-10-11 cents/line which is what we are worth, right?


    YOUR ANSWER

    Dear Unhappy Camper,


    If you will email me at my email address, dove003@comcast.net, I would like to tell you the solution to your problem. 


    First, please, can you tell me what part of the USA you live in? 


    Linda ');>


    Very sensible answer
    ...