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patent shotty veins vs patency of the shotty veins

Posted By: tynkerbelle on 2008-05-23
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They are nit-picking us to death here at work.  Granted the dynamics of the job is changing, but the line count we are supposed to attain does not allow for that.  They cannot have both a high line count and looking EVERYTHING up on the electronic chart to double check for accuracy.  


My question now is....the doctor always says "patent shotty veins".  Now with their QA they are telling me it is "patency of the shotty veins".  Now I do not feel comfortable changing stuff around.  Which is right?




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I agree withj LowlyMT: patent, shotty veins.........
from One Look dictionary:

'patent' as adjective: clearly apparent or obvious to the mind or senses.

I would put a comma too:

patent, shotty veins.

This means that the veins are clearly visible (patent) and shotty (having small nodules), like shotty lymphnodes.'

patent used as an adverb to shotty, this would then be...

patently shotty veins, without a comma.




I would type, "Patent, shotty veins." - sm
I think your QA is wrong on this one. 'Patency of the shotty veins' sounds like 'shotty veins' are a specific branch of vein, whereas 'shotty' is actually describing the veins, which have nodules on them resembling shot (i.e., birdshot, shotgun pellets, etc. Kind of like BB's.) So put a comma between 'patent' & 'shotty', as both describe the veins.
Has anyone had the spider veins sm
fixed on their legs?  Wondering which is better - laser or injections?  These are not varicose.
Hemorrhoids and spider veins, too!
LOL
shotty
actually there is a word such as shoddy fever in the stedman's book and some drs will tell you to spell it that way even though you know that is not the way to spell it. we just can't win.
LOL, you mean the post about the *shotty* transcripts! LOL!
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Shotty if you are referring to lymphadenopathy. sm
If it was about a shoddy place of business, or the like, then that would be correct.  But shotty lymphadenopathy is a very common term, and the poster is correct.
How dumb! Everybody knows it is shotty, not shoddy.
Can't believe they'd have that wrong on a test. That's a newbie mistake.
ACTUALLY....yes both are in books but shotty is the term used when
referring to lymph nodes. It means that they are small, hard, and round. The term came from the comparison between the nodes and BB's, as in little lead thingies shot out of a BB gun.

Shoddy means poorly made. Like if you bought a chair and sat on it and it broke the first day. Shoddy.

Okay then........
When the shotty or shoddy question was asked
were they asking about describing lymph nodes or were they trying to use a description that would apply to shoddy. As in "poorly made". Sometimes they want to know if you know the difference, but not necessarily the medical term...if that makes any sense.

The correct word is shotty - like buckshot - not shoddy.
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Patent ovales (nm)


 


Maybe you should patent that idea :)

The invention would make you a millionaire overnight!


One thing I forgot to mention was one of the "split" keyboards.  I used to have one years ago.  I think it was called "Microsoft Natural" or something like that.  These  keyboards take some time getting used to, but they do help the fingers.


You may not have a patent but you do have copyright. SM
You created it.  No one can use it or alter it without your written consent.  I wouldn't share either.
Patent ductus "OVALUS" help!!!
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patent ductus arteriosis may be what you are looking for
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patent ductus AND ovalis
The MD probably paused between patent ductus and ovalis, instead of dictating "The patient is status post patent ductus AND ovalis." Ovalis is Latin for Ovale (which is New Latin for Oval), like in "foramen ovale." The MD probably meant the patient had both PDA and PFO corrections done.
Brian, you really should design and patent something because
there are a ton of us out there with leg swelling over the years. Bet you could make a fortune.
Patent ductus arteriosus; foramen ovale - 2 different things.
Arteriosus is with "sus", not "sis".

You can have a patent foramen ovale....Does this help?
Thanks all for your help, but MD stated that the pt is status post patent ductus "ovalis" I l
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