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Andrews is an excellent choice, sm

Posted By: M-TEC student on 2008-04-06
In Reply to: Need advice from current or former Andrews School students - Dazey

but I have no experience with them to give you advice! You may try asking Linda Andrews to put you in touch with some current students (contact info on the Andrews School website) ***Edited by Moderator*** Good luck to your daughter!


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Both Andrews and M-TEC are excellent. I have never head of one being better than the other.
You can't go wrong with either one.
Excellent WORKERS, not just excellent skills...sm
those who are conscientious, accurate, dependable will always be able to find a job somewhere, though probably not MT.
wise choice
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something you like! seriously, MT is a terrible choice
for a full time job; much too isolating and much too hard on the neck, back and fingers to do 40 or 40+ hour week. Even if you work Wed and Sat at the flower shop, you will be better off in the long run.
School choice
I feel school choice is important. The problem with some of the educational clearinghouse schools is that they teach using the Hillcrest and Forrest tapes and they are just too easy.

I don't feel it is helpful to slam every school except 2 or 3. I went to MT Advantage Career Center and had a job before graduating. However, I would not slam other schools.

I can understand posting that you feel a particular program is subpar and then backing up your opinion with why you feel that way, but there seem to be a few people here that post nasty and negative posts everytime a school is brought up that isn't one they particularly like.
Trying to make the right choice

I have spent months reading and learning about becoming an MT and I am still left with questions that I hope maybe a broader range of people might be able to answer (you all


Is Career Step's program the same as what's offered at M-Tec? The price is clearly not and I have spoken with enrollment at both locations and asked them directly the cost differences but normal everyday people who do the job is who's opinions I'd like most.


1. Training (are the both relatively close in what they teach)


2. Certificate vs. diploma


3. 4 months for one program vs. 9-12 for another.


Any honest, none school bashing, opinions would be very gratefully appreciated.


I really think I made the wrong choice
All I keep hearing about is how hard it is to land a job in this profession. No one wants to go to school and then find out there are no jobs available. I have almost given up on finishing my school for fear of there being nothing at the end of the rainbow for me. I was naive in thinking that I could just work from home immediately and have no cares in the world. Oh well, live and learn - right? I guess I better just go back to college and get a degree in something else.
How did you make your school choice decision?
Why did you pick the particular schools that you chose? Did you ask them for help in job placement? What do the employers tell you when you test for them, or do they even allow you to test? I know that several schools' graduates are not having any problems like this at all, and they don't cost $10,000. Not even Andrews costs $10,000.
Sounds like they made a poor choice of EMR...sm

the whole point of EMR is not to type the notes into the system - it's to choose from a menu and point and click to get the information in.  Think


chief complaint:  sore throat.     choose:  erythematous   edematous  purulent drainage and so on


if it's a speciality with a lot of redundancy, i.e. podiatry, they fly through their notes. If it's more unique situations a little tougher. But don't worry... the EMR companies will soon figure out the missing link...


 


 


 


Career Step is a good choice for some
nm
Great choice for work-at-home jobs
I'm a physical therapist and an MT as well, not bad for a part-time job, plus you have to stay at home; although you are not going to earn as much as you do as RN. Working indirectly with the patient is as exciting as working directly with them. Good Luck!!
excellent :)

thanks so much, everyone.  these are terrific answers.  and lo:  a hospital where i worked needs a per-diem transcriptionist, too!  i'm even getting optimistic here--lol    


Besides this excellent advice (sm)
when you finally figure out that one word you've struggled over, pay attention to how it's being pronounced. Makes notes about the little quirks with their accent. Some don't say "V" and say "W" instead. Some say cerv-I-cal. I know one doc who drops endings, he'll say impress instead of impression, fracture instead of fractured, rotate instead of rotation. Some can't pronounce blended sounds like th, sh, etc.
That is excellent! I am sure you will learn a lot from her
:-)
Thank you!! This is an excellent site!...sm
I will probably use this for any term I'm having trouble with or just want more information about. This is excellent! Plus, it's so easy to use as far as looking something up! Thank you for sharing!
You can't go wrong with either one, both are excellent. NM
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I agree with that either one is excellent.
If you narrowed it down to these two, I recommend spending a lot of time on the websites for both, corresponding with the directors, etc.  It is really just a matter of which school has a style that suits you best.  Either one is a great choice!
Excellent Suggestion
It's funny that I just read this.  I just applied to a company for an editing position and offered to work for them for 2 weeks sans pay to get my foot in the door and so that they could evaluate my performance.  I just finished up an externship of 8 weeks with a company based in Utah and loved it although that wasn't nearly enough time to get "experience".  I would be very willing to work sans pay for a few weeks (I've already done 8 of them, lol) to be considered for a job.  I also have most of the stuff already needed to get right to work.  I have the foot pedal, reference books, spellchecker and computer.  Any chance I could have to get the experience needed to get me started works for me.  I live in a very very small town and all the places here (clinics and offices) all send their work to a company in Indianapolis (3hrs away from me) so of course there is no chance of me getting work with them that would be in house.
Excellent skills are very much in demand
Excellent skills and a teachable attitude are always marketable.

If you have excellent skills and do the work the way the employers want it done, you will have many more options to choose from. If you take a course that doesn't teach all that employers expect you to know, it doesn't matter how hard you work and how much you put into it, you won't get anything out of it. You can't get out of a course what isn't there, no matter how hard you work. I recommend getting the best education you can and working hard. That pays off in the longterm.
CareerStep is also an excellent school. Their
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Applause! Excellent post!
nm
I agree - it's an excellent school
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This all sounds nice, but newbies have to choose MTSOs wisely and this one is not a wise choice.
me, I will explain.
So you got excellent "secretarial" but not transcription education
There's a big difference. If you want to do transcription, you don't want a secretarial or technical course. You want an expert instructor teaching you to transcribe the way employers want it done.

Unfortunately, many people have to go to local schools because they are "accredited" for financial assistance. That's great, but if they don't teach you want you need to know, I don't think it's worth the time and effort you put into it, regardless of how cheap it is.
Career Step training is excellent

I received my training from Career Step which is an online school.  If you would like more details, I'm happy to share my experience.  Feel free to email me. 


Whether you want to work from home or inhouse - you'll be prepared.  Make sure whatever school you choose offers job placement assistance.  Also, CS is very well respected as they are 1 of the schools recognized by the American Association of Medical Transcriptionists. 


GOOD LUCK! 


Looking for a newbie in South Fla. with excellent communication skills
For cardiology account.
Good. The lab book was a good choice.
Be sure you look through each book when you get it. Put tabs on sections you will want to refer to quickly. I know my lab book (not Stedman's) has all kinds of extra sections. I think my next purchase would be the cardiac book. Then neuro or OB-GYN after that, depending on which you are getting more of in your work.
Andrews vs. M-Tec...

Is M-Tec every bit as good as Andrews as far as:


1.  Preparing a person to enter the MT field


and


2.  Almost guaranteeing a job for a student upon graduation. (Realizing, of course, that this depends on the individual.)  But all else equal, does graduating from M-Tec virtually guarantee that many companies will waive the normal 2-year experience requirement and allow a new graduate to test?


Thanks


Not at Andrews
As an Andrews grad, 95% was the minimum required of each assignment of each section before you were permitted to advance to the next section. And, 95% was no guarantee that you wouldn't still be assigned extra work! We were strongly encouraged and motivated to achieve 98% and above as we were told from the beginning of the course that this is the norm in the working world. They(the instructors) were upfront from the beginning that it would take lots of work (read: blood, sweat, and tears)to pass the course at the level expected. The plus side of Andrews is that they don't turn you loose until they are confident you can attain that high goal of accuracy. An 86% would have been absolutely unacceptable.
Both Andrews and M-Tec
are top-notch MT schools. Either one would be an excellent choice not only for MT skills but also for any required improvement in spelling and grammar skills that might be necessary.
Also . . . about Andrews
Have you spoken with Linda Andrews yet? Looking on their website, I see that the payment plan has an option with a lesser down-payment of $1000 with a monthly payment of $117, instead of the $98 it would be with the larger down-payment. There is no interest on that, I see, which would be a considerable benefit to you.

Also of importance is that this covers everything. Their students traditionally do not need to provide anything else for school--not one book, not one bit of software, nothing. And, when they go to work, they already have the references that most employers require.

The first question above asked about whether one school allowed you to retake sections until you got them right. This focuses on "failure mode." The thinking is that "this is so hard, nobody can succeed." It sets up the expectation that it is NORMAL for students to fail at transcription.

Students should not fail at transcription. The concept of having some students do well, others ok, and some fail is a concept dragged over from traditional education. Private MT schools are not public junior colleges. They do not need to follow that model.

Frankly, if I were thinking of putting down a fat down-payment on a course and the school thought that it was acceptable to have any students fail, I'd be a little worried. And I certainly wouldn't expect that I'd be the exception who did well, because a school which has students failing, or not doing well enough to be employable, seems to stack the deck against you.

It would seem better to me to simply select a school in which the students do not fail, instead achieving a high level of skill across the board.

Select a school where you KNOW your money won't be wasted, where the risk is almost nil. Select a school where students do not flounder around unassisted, failing and re-failing. Select a school where they achieve and are routinely offered new, extra material to improve their already high levels of achievement.

Medical transcription training does not need to be difficult, nor does it need to culminate in unemployability.



The best are M-TEC and Andrews
M-TEC has an abbreviated course for previous medical professionals. I don't know if Andrews does.
Andrews
I'm mentoring an MT right now who went to Andrews and she seems very knowledgeable.
Andrews
I graduated from Andrews in December of 2004. I was hired immediately after graduation and have been with the same company since. I work for a smaller MTSO, and she has been very happy with how well Andrews prepared me.
M-Tec or Andrews (sm)

M-Tec and Andrews are the only two schools that are approved by the AAMT right now. I am sure there are other good schools too, but these two have been around for awhile and are proven to produce job-ready MTs upon graduation.


www.mtecinc.com


www.andrewsschool.com


www.aamt.org


M-Tec vs. Andrews
I think I am going to end up going with either M-Tec or Andrews. Please help me decide! All opinions, comments, pros and cons of each are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
M-TEC, Inc. or Andrews are the very best...

Companies waive the 2-year experience requirement for their grads.  Pick one of the very best.  Your future success as an MT depends on it. 


 


So, you went through Andrews AND M-TEC after CS?
I'm really curious.

You sound just simply disgruntled over CS and have no real experience comparing the other schools to CS.


Andrews is the very best, IMO.

Look at Andrews or M-Tec
Andrews or M-Tec are simply the best programs out there.


Andrews or M-TEC are best. nm
nm
I think Andrews is the best, but everyone has their

M-TEC or Andrews
Truly, if you want to be prepared to work at home immediately upon graduation, M-Tec or Andrews is the only way to go.  These 2 schools are worth every penny you will spend.  Their education is top notch.  I am a graduate of M-TEC but know several Andrews graduates.  Please...don't skimp on your education.  Speak with the directors at both M-TEC and Andrews before making a decision.
If you took M-TEC or Andrews there are
companies that will hire you without the experience, otherwise you'll have a very tough time getting an at-home job.  I suggest you look for an in-house position locally and get your experience. 
M-TEC or Andrews

It shouldn't even be a question anymore...


Ignore the rah-rah Career Step down there (unless you don't care whether you get a job or not).


The 2 best are M-Tec and Andrews. This
same question has been asked many times, so spend some time looking through past posts.  Also read the posts about how difficult it is to get a job if you don't take one of the better courses, how low the pay is, etc. 
Andrews vs. M-TEC
Hi! I'm not proud of my newbie question, but here goes. :)

I've been reading forums and researching medical transcription for about a year now. I understand Andrews and M-Tec are regarded as the best schools. I worry my reasons are partially superficial, but I feel drawn to M-TEC in particular.

I recently took their skills assessment and scored 100%. I've been seconds from enrolling a couple of times. My only concern is a general vibe that Andrews is #1. Is there a known reason for this vibe? Will my job prospects as an M-TEC grad closely mirror those of a comparable Andrews grad? Superficialities aside, my primary concern is marketability post-graduation.

Thanks in advance!
M-TEC or Andrews
Why don't you call both schools and see for yourself which one you like better?
Not Andrews or M-Tec

Thank you for the encouragement in not giving up.


The person that said she got a job so quickly said she attended Everett Community College.


My husband has suggested I write a letter to AHP, but I think anything I have to say will fall on deaf ears, and that will only make me more upset. The only thing I can say in their defense is that it seems to me that even Andrews and M-Tec make it sound like a getting a job is a piece of cake after you complete school. According to what I've seen on mtstars, it's not that easy. Granted, it's easier if you have gone to one of those schools but still not as easy as they ALL make it sound. While I attended AHP, I felt like I was learning a lot and getting a decent education, but then again, I don't have anything to compare it to. I do know that my education is not getting me anywhere now.     


Andrews School
provides about the best MT training available. Even their training, however, is NOT equivalent to two years' experience. That is simply not a reasonable assumption. However, should you do the smart thing and select Andrews for your MT training and complete it successfully, you will come out FAR ahead of someone who chose one of the cheaper or less reputable MT schools. The reason companies waive the two-year experience requirement for Andrews graduates is not because they actually have two years of experience, it is because they know that they are getting a well-trainined newby who will require a minimum of handholding and someone who has been trained to deal with the realities of being an MT. You should have no qualms whatsoever about choosing Andrews. M-Tec is an equally good school that would offer you the same chance of early success. Many Career Step students have also found their transition to work to be relatively painless.
Yes, you can't go wrong with either M-TEC or Andrews.
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