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Posted By: angelsmom on 2005-10-12
In Reply to: Some things to think about regarding - Giving Chances

I understand what you are saying and can see the reasoning. One of the problems is that the employer does not know how well you can do the job because they won't even let you test with them being a newbie. They aren't willing to see if you can make the grade. Many of us who are new have done very well in out course. Meditec may not be one of the top ones, but Davenport University specializes in business courses and I felt that they did not do an adequate job in teaching MT, that is why I went with an on-line course. Not all of us are able to AFFORD the top three school's to go to. There is no way I could have afforded it with what my daughter and I have been living on for the last two years while I was trying to better our life by going back to school. Better, ha! all I have so far is loans that I am paying for because like I said in my first posting, locally, there are no transcription jobs and the closest city is around 50 miles away and  financially it is not possible to travel there daily for part-time work. Maybe, if someone would give us newbies a chance, they may just be surprised!


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Thank you so much for the post. It has helped. I am planning on calling around tomorrow to a couple area hospitals to find out if they take students for clinicals. My instructor said she would take whatever help we could give her in finding a site for clinicals.
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Trust me I know that I am not going to get rich of the first job that comes along. I am looking for a job that will help me gain experience so that I will be able to compete with experienced MTs later on for a better job. I do somewhat expect something out of my time even though I am working from home. The instructors do tell the MT students that they should ask for at least 7 cents a line. It does work asking for that amounts in some cases. I have a friend that was hired in a training program that started at $10 an hour for training and after 90 days, she went to 7 cents a line. I guess it just depends on the company and the programs they have available at the time.
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I'm sorry....How do I find this "concerned"? Thanks for your suggestion...:)
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Being a well-educated "newbie" myself, I completely agree!
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Thanks for all the great ideas. I worked really hard on my resume, but maybe I should try a different format. Yes, I am keeping track of the places I've applied. Some of them won't even talk to me again for 6 months after I already applied. No, I haven't sent thank you notes. That's a good idea. Thanks.
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"Wait until the old-time MTs retire" was meant as an illogical sarcasm, not an insult.  As a disabled person, I cannot travel an hour to and an hour from a job every day.  I went into this profession because I was mislead that I could work from home upon graduation.  I did do in-house training as part of my education, and in a perfect world, which it is not, a hospital would be built next door to me, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.  I believe even new MTs have value, everybody does, so I think we all deserve a chance to develop rather we are at home or in-house.  In-house jobs are being outsourced rapidly and the hospital where I did my externship at is not hiring new placements as each MT moves on or retires.  I'm sure that hospital is not the only one doing this.  For that reason, it seems that more MTs may be needed and I think that mentoring from existing companies would benefit both the company as well as new MTs.  It would take longer but I think it would pay off for both in the long run.  Rather a person has been doing this for 25 years or for 2, everyone had to be given a chance and mentored somewhere along the way.  We all just need a chance.
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Thank you so much for the insight 'kimismom'.  I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you so much for your reply...

Marie for understanding what I was talking about.  I am not saying that the school I have decided to go with is the greatest or anything, but I just can't believe that it is the worst. If I turn out to be wrong, then I will just have to get into a program that is a good one. You know what I mean.  Well, again thank you for your support on this issue.  Hope everyone out there that has gotten into a program of this sort has good luck with it all.


Thanks for your reply!

Thanks very much for your response.  You really lifted my spirits.  I think working all alone at home causes me to loose perspective and to forget the bigger picture.  In some ways, I miss being in an office each day where I can talk to my coworkers and feel connected through the work that we do.  Being an MT at home can get pretty lonely.


I immediately related to all that you shared.  Yes, I do look up a lot of stuff, and I probably spend more time than I should.  I'm afraid of typing something senseless into the report, so I look up the stuff I have never heard of just to make sure it fits with the context of the sentence.  I ask myself, "Did he really say femoral hernia?  Yes, I think he did say that because I looked it up and it fits with the dictation."  Over time, I suppose I will stop doing that so often.  It will really speed me up when I can confidently type what I am hearing.


I still have trouble with drug names, but I am little better than I was when I started 6 months ago.  I am slowly learning the more common drugs.  Yesterday, I had a doctor rattle off about 20 drugs for his patient, and I was able to spell and type them without looking them up.  For me, that was a milestone, and it made me feel good to accomplish it.


Thanks also for your thoughts about speech recogntition editing.  My employer has not offered to train me, and I have not volunteered.  I feel like I have enough to learn without adding even more.  Maybe I can start editing someday in the future, but for now, I hope they just forget about me and let me learn to transcribe the old way.  I will remember what you said about Clinic work.  I had not thought about the very short dictations consuming just as much time with ADT and lookups.  I see that really would be slower, now that you mentioned it.


In school, all of the talk about jobs and income was rosey, and they had me believing that I could be earning a decent wage in a few short months.  Brother, was that overly optimistic!  Hearing that you struggled so long to get some speed and worked very long hours each day makes me feel a little less alone.


I really like what I am doing, and I really don't want to quit my job.  I was just depressed last night.  I am going to keep plugging along at minimum wage, and hope that things look better a year from now.


You've added some sanity to my thinking.  Your response was just what I needed.


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I understand that EvCC students get access to the CS forums, as every one can. However, as an EvCC student, you are not able to take part in the Spheris Training Track and the new partnership with Focus Infomatics that is being put into place. That is true.

I recommend CS because I am a graduate from there and also an affiliate member. I think it is a great opportunity for some where as EvCC might be a better opportunity for others for certain reasons.

I am all for quality MT training, whereever one can get it. My personal experience is with CS and I like to help others know that the same can be true for them.
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It is totally normal to be nervous when you first begin a job.  I have been an MT for a long time and I still get nervous when I first begin a new account.  You will make mistakes, and that is to be expected.  My best advice for you:  Always be polite to QA.  Do not take their advice personally.  Thank them for the advice that they offer and let them know that you will always be open to that advice.  Do not be afraid to ask for samples.  Many times they are available.  Make notes of all QA feedback and keep those notes on file.  That is the best way to prevent repeat mistakes.  It also shows that you value your job and are serious about learning the account.  Good luck!
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Which schools are considered the "better schools"?  I've been researching but keep getting conflicting info.


Thank you soooo much for this reply
I started this course and had no idea how much was involved --  I am currently working (not MT) and have 4 children ranging from 12 - 16 years old -- second marriage--they are all very involved in sports and school so I wanted something I could do at home that was flexible enough to allow me to care for their needs--I have been frustrated at times because by the time I get home form work and taxi cabbing, dinner and homework I am too exhausted to spend the two hours a night that is needed on this course  --  I am not giving up though -- no matter how long this takes I am determined to graduate!!!!
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1.  When a job post indicates that a resume is to be pasted directly in the body of the message, why would you attach it? Do you have a specific reason for doing that?


I, personally, wouldn't attach if requested not to do so (as has happened in other responses from me to non-MT companies).  However, I can see the OCCASIONAL error of doing so, but not as a 'norm.'


2.  If the job post states that you must have your own equipment specific to the job (i.e. foot pedal for *wav files, C-phone) or provide your own high-speed ISP), why would you apply for the position if you cannot afford to buy the equipment?


The only possible explanation for this is ...... frankly, I can't think of an explanation.  Personally speaking, I wouldn't apply for an IC position if I didn't have the correct equipment (or I might ask if I'm considered can I have 'x' time to acquire that equipment, if not, its the MTSO's prerogative to say no).


3.  Is there a reason you submit an application with spelling errors, poor punctuation, etc.?


Hmmmm, I check mine, unless we have a conversation going (i.e., exchanging letters, IM's, etc) and I'm not horribly serious about the job (at least in the beginning of the conversation, that might change dependant on the information I've received).


And, now, a statement/question from me ...


4.  ... Do you feel that I have the right to ask you, the newbie, to re-listen to the original dictation and read the “new report” with all the blanks filled in, but not pay you for this time? Would you be willing to do that?


I think this is a perfectly reasonable request, and any newbie (like me) who wouldn't choose this option is short-changing her/himself in learning and expanding their knowledge base and allowing him/herself to grow and become more valuable to the current MTSO (or a future one).


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Maybe they don't read all the posts b/c some of them can get pretty long.  They are just trying to help, thats all.  They don't mean any harm as far as I can tell.  I don't think its anything to get anxious about though.


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Yes, I have sent an email to the person that had that posted. I am still waiting on some more information. Thanks for the suggestions.
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How much info goes on second page depends on the document itself. It is highly unprofessional to have only two lines only or two lines and then a signature. If that's the case, change your margins and put it on one page or push more of it over to the second page. Only two lines in a paragraph or on a page is considered orphan or widow lines; there is not enough information to know for sure that the information on the other page really does go with those two lines--it leaves room for the possibility of confusion or switching of documents--which is way bad.


Left justify should be on your toolbar across the top of Word and looks like several lines which are even at the left side and uneven along the right side. The center key will be the next one and the left justify will be next, then--if it is on your toolbar with be left and right justify. This key looks like several lines, which are perfectly even along the right and left sides (like the newspaper).


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You don't see the big guns worrying about anything posted on this board. Sheesh.
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Where should I post it?
Is there a section on MT Stars that you post resumes or are you saying to just post it in a message? Thanks
I appreciate your post and I do
recognize what has been happening in the field.  As you stated, many MTs are allowing it to happen which is sad.  There is no way to go up from there and they don't have a clue to recognize that.
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I thought I was answering on another string of posts.
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I never said MTec was dishonest. The gist of the post was that an MT training school could not give objective advice to a person considering purchasing their product. The OP was simply told to take this into consideration. Surely no one can disagree with that statement?
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Thanks for this post.
I have another six months before I reach that "two years experience" everyone seems to want. I did bite the bullet and settle for a less than top paying job to be working and getting that experience straight from training. My outlook was the same as yours. I am glad to know I'm in good company. I thought your post was very nice.
Very useful post. I wish
this post would automatically pop up every time somebody came here asking about schools, and whether the extra $1000 or whatever is worth it.
i only got about 2/3 of the way through your post.....
and thought there are much better ways for you to do this. Here are some suggestions that might save you a little money.

1. Try finding another internet provider. I pay $30 per month for my high speed.

2. Do not spend money on books anymore. Use reliable web sites. This is the beauty of Internet. In the old-days when we worked on-site and there was no Internet, we had to rely on books, but nowadays you can have the AAMT Styleguide on your computer, and there are so many reliable web sites for surgical instruments, medications, etc.

3. Can you possibly e-mail your invoices. This will get it to your provider quicker, and hopefully a paycheck back to you quicker, i.e. no paper or ink. My printer has been out of ink for 2 weeks. I do everything on line now, and never print anything anymore.

3. The cabinet was a one time purchase, but will be a tax write off.

4. Talk to your husband about the importance of your job and income. I hate to work when my husband is home. Some times I need to, and he and the kids all know that mom is working and cannot be disturbed (for the most part).

5. I hear you on the CPA thing. Mine charges me so much money to do my taxes. I am seriously considering disolving my corporation and going back to using my social security number. I really have not seen any perks there.

Anyway, hope some of these help.


I said in my post that she can't get
a TRANSCRIPTION job with just a coding education.
Thank you for this post
The office that I work for is going to EMR soon. I was so afraid I was going to lose my job. I'm still not exactly sure what I'm going to be doing, but I have EMR training starting next week.
Any certain post, or are you seeing many? nm
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there must be at least 10 different MTs who post with the
username 'anon.' This 1 is a new 1, still in the 'basic program?'
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when you are ready. Some companies do hire newbies even if they do not post.
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Thank you for post. It gives me hope
since I'm getting frustrated at the moment.
Was there really a need to post it in two different places?
And really, she could be a little more appreciative considering the fact that we, the MTs, are picking up her expenses for office space, utilities, computers, office furniture, supplies, software, etc. I totally get the point about following instructions and spellchecking, but there's no need to SCREAM about it with her rude attitude.
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Agree with your post

My situation is the same.  I made very good money for 25 years and seeing my pay going down, down, down.


So for me it's back to school and time to move on.  I would not encourage anybody to get into this field.  I have a friend who is a nursing assistant and makes $15 an hour.  Hey, that's a lot better than MT and not much work or very low pay!  Besides, it is not worth the years of study at this point in time.


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just two comments re above post...sm

"If any company offers you a position but want you to buy equipment/software up front be very cautious." If the company is offering you a position as an independent contractor, the IRS expects you to provide your own equipment. You should also be prepared to buy your own reference books and possibly even software to access the account's system or transfer files. Sometimes services will provide that but by law they are not supposed if you are working as an IC.  I had a friend who owned a service that the IRS came after. She had mostly IC's and the IRS said they weren't IC's because they didn't fit all the IRS requirements, one of which was they should work for other employers than the service. So if she had been providing equipment for them also, she would have been sunk. You can do an internet search regarding IRS rules for independent contractors, if you feel you need to be educated on the issue.


Also "If a company offers you a position at a radiculously low rate also proceed with caution and come here and ask about them."  When I started as an MT 25  years ago, I drove 80 miles round trip to go work in house for a service. I sat on a metal folding chair in a stinky, smoke-filled room with 20 other transcriptionists, banging away on a Selectric set up on a banquet table, for $5/hour. The point is, if you really want the job, do what you have to do. Remember there are probably 100 newbies applying for every job posted on this board. A service might be willing to give you experience if you trade off on pay. After all, it's basically the same thing as "buying" experience...if you work for 3 cpl instead of 6. Some people on this board will disagree with me but all I can say is I see postings here ALL the time of people in your same position.  What I did was work for cheap to break into the field.


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