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"He (MCSAME) will expand free trade so we can be even more competitive.” NM

Posted By: there go our jobs on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: bread and circuses - souplessinseattle

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he is for balancing trade, not free trade.
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You are aware that Obama has always been pro-free-trade?
Granted, not nearly as much so as McCain who wants to expand free trade as much as possible.

"Senator Obama: "I believe in the Free Market. I believe in Capitalism. I believe in Free Trade. I am not worried about us being able to compete anywhere on earth with American workers"-Obama." Too bad, at least Hillary does."

One of the many links to this quote: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/17/171927/342
Don't forget about free broadband, free gas, free healthcare, hey they are "rights" now YIP
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Sorry, my mind did expand thinking about the possibilities of...sm
the O as president, and I sure didn't like what I saw.



You sound like you want to be on an LSD trip.


Still always interesting how the truth and facts are interpreted as smears, when they are truths about O.



And please don't compare him to JFK. There's absolutely no comparison, unless you liken the way JFK's father bought him the presidency and stuffed the ballot boxes, as Acorn and the DNC get out all the illegal votes is trying to do for the O.



What part of "he has" do you not comprehend?
the same piece of paper over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Got it? Evidently not, because you fools will bankroll the attys and their law suits to nowhere over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and still won't be satisfied. That's why nobody cares about this stupidity. The entire notion is, how shall I say this....INSANE.
Did they say "he makes me sick" or did you?
You were giving more than figures.
McSame and Old
No more rotting corpse! No more rotting corpse! You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
McSame
No point in wrestling a pig; you'll just get dirty and the pig likes it
Obama will get every excuse in the world. "He is
nm
Wait a minute...we don't need GW, cuz we have McSAME!!!
Hurray, hurray!!!!! We will all be saved. Our wallets will get fat. Interest rates will go down. We'll get to see other parts of the world as we are fighting wars in Russia, Iran and Korea on our big screen HD TVs - right in the comfort of our own living rooms!!!! Our veterans will continue killing themselves (so let's ban abortion so we can create a whole new batch of cannon fodder). I am just GIDDY with excitement. It's going to be a whole NEW WORLD!!! Maybe we'll even get to see some action on our own turf since our military is shattered. Onward Christian Soldiers........
What about Sissy McSame canceling
debate on Friday? You've got to admit that's a big mistake on his part. What is he afraid of? You know. We all know. What a loser. And don't try to take their side and make it sound like their doing it for COUNTRY FIRST. We're not all stupid. Only half the country. Hopefully, less than half come November. We'll see.
Hmmm...Gives new meaning to "He's an empty suit", doesn't it?
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Well, Mcsame saw this crash coming and tried to avoid it...
unlike some others. That is one of the reasons I trust him.
Where is the line for free college, free healthcare...
mortgage paid for, free gas and ability to sit on my rear and let everyone else take care of me? Wow, now I see the light...this prez elect will be great!!
"He (Obama) chairs the subcommittee on Europe. ... He's held not one substantive hearing to do
Fischer, who is a minority staff member of the Foreign Relations Committee, said something as major as NATO’s role in Afghanistan would typically be held before the full Foreign Relations Committee, rather than Obama’s European subcommittee.

In fact, the Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing on Afghanistan on Jan. 31, 2008, and NATO was a part of the discussion. Obama attended a Democratic debate in California that day. Clinton is not on the committee.

The Clinton campaign put out a statement reiterating Clinton’s comments to reinforce the theme that Obama is more about talk than action.

“Given the opportunity to take the reins of leadership and shape two critical areas of U.S. foreign policy — Afghanistan and our alliances in Europe — Senator Obama has done next to nothing,” the statement said.

Obama’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

So let’s look at Clinton’s statement:

“He chairs the subcommittee on Europe.” Yep.

“It has jurisdiction over NATO.” Yep.

“NATO is critical to our mission in Afghanistan. He’s held not one substantive hearing to do oversight, to figure out what we can do to actually have a stronger presence with NATO in Afghanistan.” Yep.

Some may argue that the issue of NATO’s role in Afghanistan typically and more appropriately would come before the full Foreign Relations Committee. But Clinton is right when she says Obama’s subcommittee has been largely dormant while Obama has campaigned for president. We rate her comment True.

Foreign policy advisors
Barack Obama is currently advised on foreign policy by a support group of approximately 300 people organized into 20 teams based upon subject.[89] A core group of advisors, led by Susan E. Rice and Anthony Lake, filters hundreds of papers and messages daily to provide the Senator with more concise positions on foreign policy and more specific reactions to international developments. Obama's foreign policy advisers have included Richard Danzig, Mark Lippert, Gregory Craig, Dennis McDonough, Daniel Shapiro, Scott Gration, Sarah Sewall, Ivo Daalder, Jeffrey Bader, Mark Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Richard Clarke, Roger Cressey, Philip Gordon, Lawrence Korb, James Ludes, Robert Malley, Bruce Riedel, Dennis Ross, Mona Sutphen, and Samantha Power (resigned March 7, 2008).[90][91][92]

If he is such an expert why does he need 300 advisors?


thanks again Babe! Good luck voting for McSame/Falin...SM
ROFLMAO
Obama leads in military donations and support over McSame! sm
http://www.knbc.com/politics/17191067/detail.html


Free speech is alive and well, as is free will...

people can take anything out of context and do with it what they want; it still doesn't make it a McCain/Palin issue.


What do you think cap and trade is? It's a tax!!!
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Cap and trade....(sm)

This actually explains it better than I can here: 


http://www.factcheck.org/politics/cap-and-trade_cost_inflation.html


The bottom line is that the GOP estimates are way off, and they don't account for relief programs.


I understand cap and trade. You are the
misinformation. Try reading The Economist. You might find it enlightening.
Cap and Trade for Dummies
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that spewing fossil fuel carbon into the air is a sin and should be stopped.  It pollutes the atmosphere, it heats the planet, creates acid rain, yada, yada, yada.   And let's just suppose that some group of geniuses comes up with this idea: 

We can let you increase your privilege to commit sin by buying  somebody else's privilege if they aren't using all of their sin ration.  Or if you are very virtuous, we can let you sell your allotment of sin to someone.  Or maybe you can pay me some money to plant a tree for you, and that will 'offset' your sin, so now we're all even, sin-wise.  

Holy cow!  I think I've just described the Catholic 'selling of indulgences' that Martin Luther started the Protestant Reformation over!

Add to that the fact that with cap and trade,
electric will cost more, so you'll be adding to your use if you have a hybrid that you have to plug in. Doesn't make much sense, does it?

I do believe the world has gone crazy.
So how do you explain cap-and-trade.

Once this is voted on and if it passes....we will all pay.  Gas prices will go up.  Obama himself said utility prices would skyrocket....not including all the prices of goods and services will go up.  Will that not be a tax to everyone....not just the rich.  It will also hurt an already hurting economy. 


Common sense....you cannot tax just the rich for all the spending our governemt has done, is doing currently, and wants to do in the future.  There aren't enough rich people to fund all of that.  He campaigned on people making less than 250K would see no raise in taxes and yet dropped that number to 235K.  Yet no one seems to be holding him accountable for that either.  It isn't fearmongering to look at all the money that our government has spent during Bush's administration and now Obama's.  It isn't fearmongering that our deficit keeps going up and will go higher.  That is fact......not fearmongering.


Cap and trade - in some of it's glory
Here's where you can find the first 900+ pages of the bill. I haven't yet found anywhere that has up the 300+ pages of addendums that were added, but I'm still looking. Please try to read some of it if you have the time - I'm about 200 pages in and there's nothing good as far as I can see yet.


http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h2454ih.txt.pdf

Don't forget to email and/or call your senators about this one - it's not too late to stop this thing. Go to congress.org, put in your zip code and you'll get the names and email addresses of your senators and for most of them, you can email them directly from this site or there will be a link to thier personal website and you can email them from there.

Can you say "cap and trade"? Now learn what that is...
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Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't want to trade one non-secure site for another.

I'm looking for a site where the administrator is neutral and ethical and doesn't threaten people with their ISP numbers.


If there is one out there, I'd appreciate knowing about it.


As far as your posting here, that's your decision.  I couldn't care less because I'm only staying on this board long enough to see if anyone else it appalling that an administrator would track ISP numbers of posters for telling the truth about their employer.  Then I won't be coming back any more, to any of the boards here.


And thanks for finally being honest and saying it's your preference, instead of the disingenuous I'll leave.  Are you happy now? type comments that I doubt anyone believed, anyway.


And now we have a huge trade imbalance with china..
because China has bought up all of our securities in the form of loans. That's why kids toys are full of lead. If you're smart, you will check the labels on ALL products you buy. Did you know that in China they string their chicken coops over shrimp ponds? The chicken feed is supplemented with shavings, dust, particles from plastics and fiberglass plants (to save money) and the chicken droppings are what the shrimp feed on. Crest toothpaste is made in Mexico. Hepatitis A outbreaks came from Mexico. Dollar store brands? Check the labels on vitamins, aspirin, EVERYTHING (China - they put ANYTHING in their products). Even Birdseye frozen vegetables are grown and packaged in Mexico. The only store I have found that the labels inevitably say: Grown and manufactured in the USA is SAVE-A-LOT!!! What happened to the FDA? Remember when Bush said we couldn't buy our medications from Canada? Guess who is making most of our meds now................
So...how's "cap & trade" like the House just passed

Here's an eye-opening article:


http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/cap-and-trade-woes-in-europe/


Building of New Trade Center Starts (see article)
Without Fanfare, Building of New Trade Center Starts



By DAVID W. DUNLAP

Published: November 4, 2005


When are they ever going to start building the new World Trade Center?


Yesterday.


Thirty-nine years after the first concrete was poured into the first trench for the first telephone vault for the first trade center, carpenters built a 168-foot-long wooden trough in a gentle S curve through the south tower footprint at ground zero. From this sinuous sprout, Santiago Calatrava's PATH terminal and transportation hub will emerge.



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Carpenters prepared a wooden trough at the World Trade Center site Thursday.


Don't laugh; it's a milestone day, said Charles A. Gargano, vice chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the trade center site and is building the $2.21 billion terminal over the next four years.


Until now, milestones at ground zero have tended to be ceremonial.


There was not a hint of ceremony yesterday. Prince Charles and Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, were nowhere to be seen in the 70-foot-deep pit. The Freedom Tower cornerstone of July 4, 2004, sat hidden under a blue plywood box.


But anyone looking out from a PATH train screeching around the corner into the temporary World Trade Center station would have seen a crew from the Beaver Concrete Construction Company of Brooklyn.


They're finally doing something with this big hole, said Anthony Martelli, one of the workers, standing inside the newly completed trough. It's about time.


It was Mr. Martelli's first day back at ground zero since early 2002, after a six-month tour cleaning up debris and pulling out pieces of steel. Yesterday, he was building again - he and Paul Klein and Frank De Guida and Robert Manella and Tonino Sacino.


Starting at 7 a.m., they built a trough 18 inches high and 6 feet 3 inches wide out of thick wood planks. Cagelike frames of steel reinforcing bars, or rebar, will be set into the trough beginning today. Then concrete will be poured over the rebar.


That will form the footing of a seven-foot-high concrete retaining wall. The wall will hold about four feet of fill, on top of which ballast will be laid for a temporary PATH track, No. 6, alongside the future Platform D, the fourth and westernmost platform.


Currently, there are five tracks among three platforms, two of which occupy a corner of the south tower footprint, as they did in the original station. Platform D would take up more space in the south footprint and a tiny bit of the north footprint.


Once Platform D and Track No. 6 are usable, in early 2007, other tracks can be taken out of service temporarily to allow construction of the permanent terminal while commuters are traveling through the tubes to and from New Jersey.


The construction manager is a joint venture of Parsons Brinckerhoff, which counts the first New York City subway line among its earliest achievements, and the URS Corporation. A general contractor is to be chosen in the next few months.


Icanda was the contractor in 1966 when the first concrete was poured, at West and Cortlandt Streets. John M. Kyle, the chief engineer of the Port Authority, threw in a silver dollar, a 100-lire coin from Italy, a 5-franc coin from France and a British penny.


Asked about the absence of fanfare yesterday, Anthony R. Coscia, the chairman of the Port Authority, said: I think people have become so jaded by the inordinate amount of ceremonies that have occurred at that site - disproportionate to what's actually happened - that I didn't want to add to that. This is about actually building.


There is a potential snag, however. A lawsuit filed last month by the Coalition of 9/11 Families seeks to halt the project on the ground that it violates a federal law requiring that historic sites not be used for transportation projects unless there are no feasible or prudent alternatives.


Anthony Gardner, one of the plaintiffs, whose brother was killed on 9/11, said the authority had never justified the need for Platform D.


Our focus has always been to ensure the maximum preservation and access to the remains of the footprints for the American people and future visitors to the site, Mr. Gardner said yesterday.


The Port Authority and the Federal Transit Administration have yet to answer the complaint, he said. A spokesman for the authority said it would not discuss pending litigation.


But Steven Plate, deputy director of the priority capital programs department, did talk about the authority's sense of stewardship as he inspected the site, pointing out that the tower footprints had been covered by polyethylene liners and 12 inches of stone fill to protect them during construction. We're very committed, personally and professionally, to preserving the site, he said. Eighty-four of our own perished here.


I don't want to sound melodramatic, but there is no monopoly on caring for the site. This is the Port Authority's home.


Even Al Gore thinks caps and trade is a bad idea!!!
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Those set free

* I don't know what *9/11 perps* you are talking about, but I don't think anyone has gone free.*


'Dr. Germ,' Others Released in Iraq


Monday, December 19, 2005



BAGHDAD, Iraq — About 24 top former officials in Saddam Hussein's regime, including a biological weapons expert known as Dr. Germ, have been released from jail, while a militant group released a video Monday of the purported killing of an American hostage.


The first results of Thursday's parliamentary election were released, with officials saying the Shiite religious bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance, got about 58 percent of the votes from 89 percent of ballot boxes counted in Baghdad province.


Across Iraq, meanwhile, demonstrations broke out to protest a government decision to raise the price of gasoline, heating and cooking fuel, and the oil minister threatened to resign over the development.


An Iraqi lawyer said the 24 or 25 officials from Saddam's government were released from jail without charges, and some have already left the country.


The release was an American-Iraqi decision and in line with an Iraqi government ruling made in December 2004, but hasn't been enforced until after the elections in an attempt to ease the political pressure in Iraq, said the lawyer, Badee Izzat Aref.


Among them were Rihab Taha, a British-educated biological weapons expert, who was known as Dr. Germ for her role in making bio-weapons in the 1980s, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, known as Mrs. Anthrax, a former top Baath Party official and biotech researcher, Aref said.


Because of security reasons, some of them want to leave the country, he said. He declined to elaborate, but noted some have already left Iraq today.


Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, would say only that eight individuals formerly designated as high-value detainees were released Saturday after a board process found they were no longer a security threat and no charges would be filed against them.


Neither the U.S. military or Iraqi officials would disclose any of the names, but a legal official in Baghdad said Taha and Ammash were among those released.


The official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue, said those released also included Hossam Mohammed Amin, head of the weapons inspections directorate, and Aseel Tabra, an Iraqi Olympic Committee official under Odai Saddam Hussein, the former leader's son.


The video from the extremist group The Islamic Army of Iraq was posted on a Web site and showed a man purportedly being shot in the back of the head. Last week, the group had claimed it had killed civilian contractor Ronald Allen Schulz, a native of North Dakota.


The video did not show the victim's face, however, and it was impossible to identify him. The victim was kneeling with his back to the camera, with his hands tied behind his back and blindfolded with an Arab headdress when he was purportedly shot. The video also showed Schulz's identity card.


A separate video, shown on a split screen, showed images of Schulz alive. The group had aired that video when he was first taken hostage earlier this month.


Schulz has been identified by the extremist group as a security consultant for the Iraqi Housing Ministry, although family and neighbors from his current home in Alaska, say he is an industrial electrician who has worked on contracts around the world.


Schulz served in the Marine Corps from 1984 to 1991. He moved to Alaska six years ago, and friends and family say he is divorced.


The German government, meanwhile, said kidnappers had freed a German aid worker and archaeologist taken hostage with her driver in northern Iraq more than three weeks ago. Susanne Osthoff, 43, was reported in good condition at the German Embassy in Baghdad. It was unclear whether Osthoff's Iraqi driver had also been freed.


The military said a U.S. Marine was killed by small arms fire Sunday in the town of Ramadi, in central Iraq. The death brought to 2,156 the number of U.S. service members killed since the start of the war in 2003, according to an Associated Press count.


In other violence Monday, a suicide car bomb exploded outside a children's hospital in western Baghdad, killing at least two people and wounding 11, including seven police, officials said. Police believe the bomb had targeted a convoy carrying a police colonel, who was among the injured.


In western Baghdad, gunmen attacked the convoy of Deputy Baghdad Gov. Ziad Tariq, killing three civilians and wounding three of his bodyguards, police said. Tariq was not injured.


Iraqi soldiers on Monday began Operation Moonlight, which the U.S. military described as the first large-scale operation planned and executed by soldiers of the Iraqi 1st Brigade. The mission's aim is to disrupt insurgent activity along the Euphrates River near the border with Syria.


There are five Iraqi Army companies and one U.S. Marine company taking part in the operation, said Marine Capt. Jeffrey S. Pool.


With 89 percent of the ballot boxes counted in Baghdad province — Iraq's largest district — preliminary results showed the United Iraqi Alliance received 1,403,901 votes, or about 58 percent, while the Sunni Arab Iraqi Accordance party got 451,782 votes, and former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's Iraqi National List with 327,174 votes, the electoral commission said.


The commission did not say how many people voted in Baghdad province or provide further details. Baghdad is Iraq's biggest electoral district with 2,161 candidates running for 59 of the 275 seats in Iraq's parliament.


Results from southern Basra province, also mixed but predominantly Shiite, saw the clergy-backed United Iraqi Alliance significantly ahead, winning 612,206 votes with 98 percent of ballot boxes counted. The list headed by Allawi, a secular Shiite, was in second with 87,134 votes, while the Sunni accordance party trailed with 36,997 votes.


Kurdish parties were overwhelmingly ahead in their three northern provinces.


In a speech Sunday, President Bush praised the vote and warned against a pullout of U.S. forces. He said the election would not end violence but means that America has an ally of growing strength in the fight against terror. He also warned that a U.S. troop pullout would signal to the world that America cannot be trusted to keep its word.


The fuel prices were raised Sunday — some as much as nine times — to curb a growing black market, Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said.


A gallon of imported and super gasoline in Iraq was raised to about 68 cents, but Iraqis were upset by the fivefold increase. The price of locally produced gas was raised to about 48 cents per gallon, a sevenfold increase.


In Amarah, 180 miles southeast of Baghdad, police fired into the air to disperse the hundreds of protesters who had gathered in front of the provincial government headquarters. The demonstrators, however, didn't leave, and scuffles broke out with police.


Drivers blocked roads and set tires on fire near fuel stations in the southern city of Basra, and hundreds demonstrated outside the governor's headquarters to protest the increases.


Oil Minister Ibrahim Bahr al-Uloum said when the Cabinet raised prices, it also decided that the extra money would be used to support more than 2 million low-income families. Some aid money was supposed to reach the families before the increases, but that didn't happen, he said.


Dr. Ibrahim will submit his resignation to the Iraqi government if the situation continues as is, he said, referring to himself. We should take in consideration the living conditions and the economic situation of the citizens.


Iraq's oil minister has previously said that cheap domestic fuel prices had encouraged smuggling to other countries. Iraq's government has continued Saddam's practice of heavily subsidizing fuel prices.


http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,179103,00.html


None of us are free....

SLide show with music, worth watching.  The song is also one of my favorites.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8199.htm


Free will...sm
We used our free will to invade Iraq. We have free will to do a lot of things that does not make them right. There is more than one way to help ourselves. The Iraqi war is not the answer to all woes.


You are free to tell them what you want...sm
If that will make your day then get right up from your warm home and computer and go tell them what I said (pun intended).

When I said the protests will not stop, I was stating the obvious. They will have to serve and ignore or serve and pay attention and let it bring their morale down.

I know democrats cosigned on the war (whether they felt Bush would preemptively go in or not). They are not catching a break about it either, Obama and Hillary were called on the carpet on it this weekend as they should be.

You obviously know someone who will get free
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Again, I believe that it is not free--yet.
What will we do when all of these poor people can't afford it--lower the prices and give it away to those unwilling to work at all. I am only implying that it is a slippery slope.
You can get one free

for a $500,000 contribution to the RNC.


 


Oh He**. Let's just free everybody from
GOVERNMENT SUCKS!!!!!! IT IS OUT OF CONTROL. I know, so am I right now. Taking a break from the news. Oh GOD, when are you coming? This world is OUT OF CONTROL.
Would you rather pay for nothing than get it for free?

Do you really think the government will give us worse insurance than the for-profit insurers are doing now?   Really???


I'm sick of paying something for nothing - after all the deductibles, out of pocket charges, copays and disallowed claims - that's pretty much what we get.  I'd rather take the money I pay in premiums to a greedy corporation who will refuse to pay a cent when the time comes I need them - and pay it in taxes for a free healtchare plan.  At least everybody would be in the same boat, with no nasty surprises.


You are still here, right? Still free?
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I have never ever seen anything like that at Free Republic. sm
Never.  They do not advocate anything like that.  I think you are thinking of somewhere else.  Maybe the Democratic Underground, where they talk about things like that all the time.  I would like an example of what you are saying. 
Yes I did, and I never said I wanted free...

healthcare for myself.  I want free or more affordable cost healthcare for American children.  My children are already covered.  My husband has worked for the same company for over 12 years, and he has decent insurance.  You are impossible to argue with because you refuse to admit that we can afford $333 MILLION PER DAY FOR A WAR IN IRAQ, AND WE CAN AFFORD $19 MILLION PER DAY FOR CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE.  How are your taxes going to be raised to 70% of your income for the health care?  Have they been raised that high for the war?  NO, so your argument is not valid.


For those of free thought.....

I discovered this web site a couple weeks ago and have been finding it rather humerous.  It's has a liberal slant, but seems to hang more on government watch.  Enjoy!


http://www.dailykos.com/


Do you believe in free speech?
If so, please allow me mine.
you have way too much free time nm
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So you can pay for all those free handouts to
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Your free time
Why don't you spend your free time doing something positive? You would feel much better.
Dee, it is still a free country....
and the Constitution guarantees the right of Christians (or any faith) religious freedom and the right of exercise thereof. Most people want to leave off those last 4 important words. Christians do not take off their faith at the door. It is part of the fabric of our lives and decision making process. If that offends you, I'm sorry. I am a bit offended by people telling me I need to keep God out of posts, keep Him in the closet and let Him out on Sundays. So I guess we will both have to be offended. Have a wonderful day! :-)
Free country...
Exactly, it is a free country.  That also means that we, as Christians, should be able to visit the mall, watch a movie with our kids, watch a television show with our family WITHOUT being bombarded with sex at every turn. Why is it that WE must not "go to the mall, watch TV", etc., when this is a free country, founded on Christian principles...founded on the belief in God and Jesus. This is His country, like it or not...and one day He will come back and claim it and His people.  Then what will the rest do???
Why not? It's a free country right?
Why not a park bench?  Trailers are acceptable.  Deplorable houses are acceptable.  So what's wrong with a park bench?