A voter in front of me was asked to show a picture ID.....sm

• My voting story - sbMT
  • That happened to me in the last 4 elections but - Backwards typist
  • A voter in front of me was asked to show a picture ID.....sm - m
  • Did they move your usual voting place? sm - m
    • No from what I was told - sbMT
  • I hope you voting for Obama, did you?..nm - aw
    • Well I had every intention of voting for Mccain - sbMT
      • LOL....nm - aw

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Nearly half the respondents in a survey of U.S. primary care physicians said that they would seriously consider getting out of the medical business within the next three years if they had an alternative.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/11/17/primary.care.doctors.study/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Before he "liberated" those nonexistent WMDs from Iraq, Iran and Iraq were mortal enemies, which kept the region relatively quiet.

But thanks to Bush's occupation and war against Iraq, Iran and Iraq are now much friendlier with each other.

WTG, Bush!

it and turn it and manipulate it until it becomes something completely different and ugly, and you adopt THAT as the truth, when it isn't even close to what the real truth is.

Three fingers are three fingers.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  No hidden meaning.  Just three fingers that the rest of the sane, intelligent, reasonable WORLD sees and recognizes as THREE FINGERS, as I said in my post.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29697096

More smoke and mirrors from Bush.

so you don't get confused and vote for a horse or something.

Seems like each time a president leaves office everyone "hems and haws" at the list of people they pardon (especially those who dislike whatever president is leaving office).  Every exiting president has had their list of people who should never have received pardons.  Some yes, like first time offenders, people arrested for mairjuana, or caught turning back odometers, etc). 

Maybe you should have also posted the list of people Clinton pardoned.  All you said was "he pardoned some nice ones too".  You make it sound  like GW is pardoning hardened criminal while BC only pardoned some people who did petty crimes.  Even though you didn't say that, by saying "he pardoned some nice ones too" it takes away from the seriousness of the people he did pardon.  But since you didn't post Clinton's pardons I will.  Now before anyone throws a fit because I know a lot of you think Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm just posting to show that he pardoned as many creeps as Bush is.  (BTW - I didn't, have never, and do not support Bush - can't stand the guy, but at let's try to keep it honest here).  Oh and my favorites are the money launderers, income tax evaders, bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the government, issuing worthless checks, bank fraud, etc - all those things that helped to start bringing our economy down).  Those and Roger Clinton, Marc Rich, and Susan McDougal,  I did notice how he pardoned a lot of people who lied, but then again that was Clinton's whole 8 years in office - one lie after another, so doesn't surprise me he pardoned people who lied under oath. 

You said something in regards to food stamps...look at #22 on Clintons list - Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps.  I found an interesting article called "10 Heated Presidential Pardons" that goes back to George Washington.  I'll post the link.  All I'm saying here is that each president throughout our history has pardoned some pretty bad people that should not be pardoned.  GW is no different and no more worse than any of the previous.  Here's the article - an interesting read.

http://www.kitv.com/presidential-race/17578058/detail.html

Here's the list of Clinton's pardons

1. Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).^[4]
   
2. Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
   
3. Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
   
4. Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
   
5. William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
   
6. Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
   
7. Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
   
8. Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
   
9. Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
   
10. Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
    
11. Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
    
12. David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
    
13. William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
    
14. Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
    
15. Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
    
16. George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
    
17. Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
    
18. Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
    
19. David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
    
20. Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
    
21. John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
    
22. Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
    
23. Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
    
24. Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
    
25. Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
    
26. Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
    
27. Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
    
28. Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
    
29. Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
    
30. Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
    
31. Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
    
32. David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
    
33. Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
    
34. John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
    
35. Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
    
36. Richard Anthony DE Labio (Mail fraud)
    
37. John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
    
38. Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
    
39. Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
    
40. Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
    
41. Larry Lee Duncan
    
42. Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
    
43. Robert Clinton Fain
    
44. Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
    
45. Alvarez Ferrouillet
    
46. Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
    
47. William Dennis Fugazy
    
48. Lloyd Reid George
    
49. Louis Goldstein
    
50. Rubye Lee Gordon
    
51. Pincus Green
    
52. Robert Ivey Hamner
    
53. Samuel Price Handley
    
54. Woodie Randolph Handley
    
55. Jay Houston Harmon
    
56. Rick Hendrick
    
57. John Hummingson
    
58. David S. Herdlinger
    
59. Debi Rae Huckleberry
    
60. Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
    
61. Donald Ray James
    
62. Stanley Pruet Jobe
    
63. Ruben H. Johnson
    
64. Linda Jones
    
65. James Howard Lake
    
66. June Louise Lewis
    
67. Salim Bonnor Lewis
    
68. John Leighton Lodwick
    
69. Hildebrando Lopez
    
70. Jose Julio Luaces
    
71. James Timothy Maness
    
72. James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
    
73. John Robert Martin
    
74. Frank Ayala Martinez
    
75. Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
    
76. John Francis McCormick
    
77. Susan H. McDougal
    
78. Howard Mechanic
    
79. Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
    
80. Samuel Loring Morison
    
81. Charles Wilfred Morgan III
    
82. Richard Anthony Nazzaro
    
83. Charlene Ann Nosenko
    
84. Vernon Raymond Obermeier
    
85. Miguelina Ogalde
    
86. David C. Owen
    
87. Robert W. Palmer
    
88. Kelli Anne Perhosky
    
89. Richard H. Pezzopane
    
90. Orville Rex Phillips
    
91. Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
    
92. James G. Powell
    
93. Norman Lyle Prouse
    
94. Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.^[5]
    
95. Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
    
96. Charles D. Ravenel
    
97. William Clyde Ray
    
98. Alfredo Luna Regalado
    
99. Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
    
100. Marc Rich
     
101. Howard Winfield Riddle
     
102. Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
     
103. Samuel Lee Robbins
     
104. Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
     
105. Michael James Rogers
     
106. Anna Louise Ross
     
107. Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
     
108. Gerald Glen Rust
     
109. Jerri Ann Rust
     
110. Bettye June Rutherford
     
111. Gregory Lee Sands
     
112. Adolph Schwimmer
     
113. Albert A. Seretti Jr.
     
114. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
     
115. Dennis Joseph Smith
     
116. Gerald Owen Smith
     
117. Stephen A. Smith
     
118. Jimmie Lee Speake
     
119. Charles Bernard Stewart
     
120. Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
     
121. Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
     
122. Richard Lee Tannehill
     
123. Nicholas C. Tenaglia
     
124. Gary Allen Thomas
     
125. Larry Weldon Todd
     
126. Olga C. Trevino
     
127. Ignatious Vamvouklis
     
128. Patricia A. Van De Weerd
     
129. Christopher V. Wade
     
130. Bill Wayne Warmath
     
131. Jack Kenneth Watson
     
132. Donna Lynn Webb
     
133. Donald William Wells
     
134. Robert H. Wendt
     
135. Jack L. Williams
     
136. Kavin Arthur Williams
     
137. Robert Michael Williams
     
138. Jimmie Lee Wilson
     
139. Thelma Louise Wingate
     
140. Mitchell Couey Wood
     
141. Warren Stannard Wood
     
142. Dewey Worthey
     
143. Rick Allen Yale
     
144. Joseph A. Yasak
     
145. William Stanley Yingling
     
146. Phillip David Young
     
147. Keith Sanders
     
148. Darren Muci
     
149. John Scott (not a full pardon)

[edit] Commutations

1. Ronald Henderson Blackley
   
2. Bert Wayne Bolan
   
3. Gloria Libia Camargo
   
4. Charles F. Campbell
   
5. David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
   
6. Lau Ching Chin
   
7. Donald R. Clark
   
8. Loreta De-Ann Coffman
   
9. Derrick Curry
   
10. Velinda Desalus
    
11. Jacob Elbaum
    
12. Linda Sue Evans
    
13. Loretta Sharon Fish
    
14. Antoinette M. Frink
    
15. David Goldstein
    
16. Gerard A. Greenfield
    
17. Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges^[3]
    
18. Jodie E. Israel
    
19. Kimberly Johnson
    
20. Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
    
21. Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
    
22. Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
    
23. Kellie Ann Mann
    
24. Peter Ninemire
    
25. Hugh Ricardo Padmore
    
26. Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
    
27. Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
    
28. Pedro Miguel Riveiro
    
29. Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
    
30. Susan Rosenberg
    
31. Kalmen Stern
    
32. Cory Stringfellow
    
33. Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
    
34. Thomas Wilson Waddell III
    
35. Harvey Weinig
    
36. Kim Allen Willis
    
37. Kemba Smith
    
38. Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant

Frankly I do not see much good coming from the policies of the last 8 years. An out of sight deficit, home foreclosures, terrible price hikes and job losses, I can;t see the pluses in these. Has Iraq made us safer? My gut tells me no. If there had, in fact been weapons of mass destruction than I would feel differently. I think what has matterd the most protecting the US have been more careful survellience domestically in the form of airline survelliences and the like.

I think Obama has the potential to make some positive changes, domestically and worldwide as well. While there is no guarantee of that I really don't feel that McCain will do to much except to continue more or less to promote the same policies as in the last eight years. We can do better than that. The post 9/11 politics of fear are eating the country alive economically.  While there is never a guarantee that another terrorist attack will not occur, as they do every so often world-wide,  I think it is foolish to sink your economy and play on the fears of its people on the remote chance that another one 'might occur someday.'

I like the message of hope and change that Obama speaks of, and if elected I hope that he is able to achieve some of his goals.

CNN just reported in Raleigh, NC-- people standing in line for 2 hours, and opps, all the sudden there are no ballots....there they are.....they are wet and will not go through the machine, so just put those to the side and we'll run them later. 

Flyers going out saying if you are a dem then voting day is Nov 5.

If you are in college your parents will get taxed if you vote at school.

There seems to be a HUGE list of this kind of stuff.  And who benefits from a lower voter turnout?  Hmmm. 

First, let me say this testimony by a Cal State professor of economics pertaining to the proposed "cap-and-trade" program isn't light reading, but it isn't very long or overly technical, either. It's only a little over 3 pages, double-spaced with generous margins, and takes less than 10 minutes to read, especially since the whole first page is taken up with the economist's credentials and background which you can skip if you wish.

Second, we have to bring a certain mental framework to things like this, which I compare to digging the meat out of a walnut shell.  People like this don't typically use the kind of sensational language that we're accustomed to hearing on the news, and they tend to be rather polite and very low-key in the way they say things, especially when they're addressing a Congressional committee.

So nothing here is "bolded" or "underlined" in the way it's expressed, and ordinary reader like ourselves can easily miss the significance of what this economist is trying to tell the committee, which - if you want to cut right to the chase - is that "cap-and-trade" will destroy our economy.  Now, the economist uses somewhat less drastic terms but only SLIGHTLY less so, and if you simply think about the consequences of his predictions (which he expects the committee members to do), his meaning is quite clear. 

Cap-and-trade is admittedly INTENDED to make energy costs higher, on the theory that higher prices will induce reductions in energy use, hence pollution, etc., etc.  While this might sound like a good theory (odd, though, that those who support it are the very same people who laugh at "trickle-down" economics, which is exactly what this is, in reverse), it actually hides new taxes that consumers will ultimately pay for either directly or in the form of higher prices for literally everything because every good and every service includes an energy cost of one sort or another (and that, in turn, will also mean another layer of increased tax because you pay a higher sales tax when the price of anything goes up - a double whammy, in other words). At 8%, something that costs you $10 today = $10.80.  If the price goes up to $15, you pay $16.20 - which is not only a 50% increase in the price, but also a 50% tax increase on that item.  (It's critical to learn to think in percentages, and also to learn how prices are related to taxes!)

Cap-and-trade may just be the most horrendous idea ever to come down the pike.  This economist thinks so, calling it the "most anti-consumer" idea proposed to any Congress in our history.  This has nothing whatsoever to do with any political party.  It's simply another example of the absolute madness that seems to grip Washington these days - and members of both parties are afflicted with this insanity.

So, as always, here's the link for those who wish to paste it into their browsers, and it's also in the clickable link below.  This is a PDF file and I can assure you that there's no virus risk.

http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/robert-michaels-testimony-april-23-2009.pdf

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Sorry it didnt come through, guys..it was information about Laura's manslaughter and had a few good pictures..I wanted to share but they didnt come through..anyway, here is the link..check it out..

http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434