The picture is even bigger than you think.
Posted By: PK on 2006-06-27
In Reply to: I'm sorry you think so. sm - MT2
More smoke and mirrors from Bush. 
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You really need to look at the bigger picture
Of course you care about your interest rate on your home, but neither candidate is going to 'solve' this horrific crisis, because there is no ONE reason for it! It is very complicated but as Americans, its our responsibility to TRY to understand it better so that we can demand the right course of actioN from ALL parties involved.
ONE FACT: When wages are stagnant an economy cannot grow - and that DEFINITELY is playing into what is happening in the financial crisis. Ask yourself which candidate is for INCREASING wages and fighting for equal pay for women and men...
Don't depend on SAM or anyone else to help you decide, use the power of the internet to educate yourself.
IF you like war and bleeding the treasury to ensure we have more of it, and more enemies to boot, then McCain is your man.
Im not enamoured of Obama either, so I'm not selling him to you either. That said, he ALWAYS opposed Bush's fake war - which has cost us HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. Gee, where could we have put that $ to better use? Remember IRAQ did not attack us in 2001; the majority of attackers came from SAUDI ARABIA.
Why? Because they demanded we remove our military bases from their lands and we did not comply. After they attacked us, we attacked Iraq and guess what? WE MOVED THE MILITARY BASES TO IRAQ to appease Saudi Arabia.
Think this has nothing to do with you getting a good rate on your new home?
THINK AGAIN. As long as Americans choose their leaders based on cute lines in debates, we are destined to be robbed again and again and again.
You must look at WHAT THEY WILL DELIVER based on their past record. MCCain will give you more of the last 8 years.
But again, that's my opinion. Please care enough to do your own research, which you will believe more than anything a stranger tells you anyway.
President Obama=bigger taxes, bigger government, and a profound change in society and culture
And George supported bigger profits for bigger business and richer people, that was soooo much bette
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Yep. That sliding board keeps getting bigger and bigger
After watching the mayor of Phila. go to Washington today to beg for a few BILLION to bail that cityout, what's next?
Her lies keep getting bigger and bigger
Everytime she speaks all I can hear playing in the mind is a song from the 1970s by Three Dog Night called "Liar". She should be put on the spot and made to face her lies. This baloney about her remembering it differently is just a bunch of hooey!
Even bigger than this?
The American left is dancing on the graves of the New Orleans dead
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Posted By: vs on 2005-09-09,
A radio talk show host just said that...and I agree. This is the big story the left was looking for to TRY and nail Bush. Well, I hope they can live with their collective conscience that is if they even have one. I'm starting to believe they don't.
Even bigger WOW!!!! sm
I so agree with you on this! Shocker, huh? LOL
There are so many different systems in place right now that it is ridiculous. In my precinct, we still use the old pen and paper method which, though it probably has its flaws as well (stray pen marks, crumpled ballots, etc.), is definitely an easier system to navigate for voters, especially elderly voters who don't know how to use the more sophisticated systems. I have read and heard of numerous instances in which elderly voters have to be helped to use the machine systems. Everybody knows how to use a pen and paper....whether they use it intelligently or not is a whole 'nuther matter for debate. ;O)
I also think that a standardized method would speed up the process of counting votes and minimize the possibility of error....stray pen marks, hanging chads, etc.
This is bigger than politics....sm
A friend of mines posted this on another site and wants me to share the word. Her husband is on assignment in Iraq now.
As you all probably know I am a very proud wife of a Military Soldier. It is an honor, privelege and the toughest duty anyone woman can have. At times my fears get the best of me. And although I cannot imagine my life without my husband, I am in a marriage where his life is on the line daily and I have to remain strong not only for myself but for our 4 sons. This is going to really hit you emotionally and some of you may not even get through however you will see the purpose at the end. I live each day like its my last and this is the reason why.
Last week, while traveling to Chicago on business, I noticed a Marine sergeant traveling with a folded flag, but did not put two and two together. After we boarded our flight, I turned to the sergeant, who'd been invited to sit in First Class (across from me), and inquired if he was heading home.
No, he responded.
Heading out I asked?
No. I'm escorting a soldier home.
Going to pick him up?
No. He is with me right now. He was killed in Iraq ..
I'm taking him home to his family.
The realization of what he had been asked to do hit me like a punch to the gut. It was an honor for him. He told me that, although he didn't know the soldier, he had delivered the news of his passing to the soldier's family and felt as if he knew them after many co nversations in so few days. I turned back to him, extended my hand, and said, Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do so my family and I can do what we do.
Upon landing in Chicago the pilot stopped short of the gate and made the following announcement over the intercom.
Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to note that we have had the honor of having Sergeant Steeley of the United States Marine Corps join us on this flight. He is escorting a fallen comrade back home to his family. I ask that you please remain in your seats when we open the forward door to allow Sergeant Steeley to deplane and receive his fellow soldier. We will then turn off the seat belt sign.
Without a sound, all went as requested. I noticed the sergeant saluting the casket as it was brought off the plane, and his action made me realize that I am proud to be an American.
So here's a public Thank You to our military Men and
Women for what you do so we can live the way we do .
Red Fridays.
Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the silent majority. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.
Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends,
simply want to recognize that the vast majority of
Americasupports our troops. Our idea of showing
solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday -- and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that ... every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something red.
By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United Stateson every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once silent majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.
The first thing a soldier says when asked What can we do to make things better for you? is ..We need your support and your prayers. Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something red every Friday.
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!
We are in bigger trouble than we know
It may just be way too late for Obama to get us out of the horrible mess we are in. We are fiddling while Rome burns - I sound like Chicken Little but indeed the sky IS falling - Frightening!
...."If we can use the Baltic Dry Index (BDI) as a guide for the next 12 months of product delivery and food availability in the stores we shop in then the BDI says shelves will be virtually empty of almost every product we use each and every day. Is the BDI is wrong it will be an historic first. The BDI is used by bankers, financial experts, brokers, traders and everyone in high end finance to assess the global financial condition and the availability of products worldwide. The BDI has dropped 94% in a short few weeks which means raw materials, grains, ores, steel, iron, cement and all imported products for food manufacturing and product manufacturing even though we actually do very little of that here in the US."
Here is the bigger problem
O says he is going to be transparent and "change" how things are done. Haven't heard ONE thing about where that money went. They aren't doing anything about it. That is an even bigger problem because we have four long years ahead of us still to come.
You probably need to get a bigger teleprompter as I see
you are all stumbling in your reply here. Duh?
Bush is by far a bigger embarrassment than
All Clinton should have said was "No comment" in regard to the whole Monika disaster. He should not have lied, but I really don't think it was any of our business what he did behind closed doors sexually, so I think he should not have commented at all. Bush's string of ignorant comments and actions are far more embarrassing/damaging to this country than anything Clinton did or said. I die a little inside each time I see President Bush on TV or read about another dumb thing he said. It bothers me so much!!! He makes us all look bad, and he is soooo cocky. Disgusting. (btw, I'm not voting for Hilary. Just wanted to point out why I think Bush is a much greater embarrassment than the Clintons!)
No bigger than the backlash JM brought down
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but some people are BIGGER liars
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But the bigger question remains:
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Shoot - Let me know if you want image that bigger (NM)
The new govt will be worse. BIGGER.
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correction - I don't think it is a bigger problem than it has always been -
I needed to correct my statement. I do think it is a problem that people do not vote on the issues, just do not think it is a new problem. Just brought out more prominently this time because Obama is black.
We KNOW O doesn't...Pelosi's are bigger, but still no..nm
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You don't know it's not a good idea for BIGGER
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His plans are to create bigger government, which
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Not in this country! It means bigger government, more
You want free thinking, you must mean "independent", as if independent thinker, thinking for yourself, not told how to think!
And making BIGGER government isn't a dictator?
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All Obama is doing is builder bigger Govt and
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Who cares? Got bigger fish to fry.... geesh!!
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sorry, picture did not take...
here is the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/politics/politico/main501563.shtml
It shows that the picture missing is the politico logo.
:-)
picture not there
but I have seen it elsewhere. speaks volumes, doesn't it? Everyone else on that podium had their hands on their hearts, his were at his side.
Get this picture
You are absolutely correct, I don't want anything shoved down my throat and nothing will be. My question is when you see anything on the politics board that even remotely mentions religion, why not just click off of it and don't go about reading it much less posting a reply? When our religious beliefs affect our political views, why on earth would we not be allowed to express those opinions? You certainly don't have to agree. I certainly have no problem with atheists, agnostics or whatever posting their lack of religious views that affect their political views. It seems to me that non-believers protest way too much about something they don't believe in.
OMG - thanks a lot, now that's all I have a picture of LOL
HA HA HA HA HA
Piper Laurie sure was good in that roll though.
The longer this goes on, the bigger terrorist breading ground sm
Iraq becomes. This is getting past ridiculous. Now, I don't think we should just pull out, but I think we need to let them have it, and there will be more US casualties, and get out ASAP.
I just heard billions of dollars in bigger government...
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This is cute & I can picture him saying something like that...sm
Just reading thru some posts on here now. I guess I missed quite a bit. I have started on a new account and it is taking me 12 hours instead of 8 to get my lines.
what IS wrong with the picture?
I'm not watching TV and I don't know exactly what you are referring too, but is SP supposed to land in the midst of the hurricane, instead of Fairbanks, in order to be a good person??
you could ask for a picture ballot
so you don't get confused and vote for a horse or something.
need to view the big picture
Gut reaction is to say let the fail. I was not in favor of the bailout as proposed; however, common sense tells me that there has to be some plan. It isn't a question of stocks falling; it is a question of the economic structure of the US failing completely. I do want to save their "greedy banker butts" (to use your words) but you need to think of the bigger picture. You talk about a drop in stock, retirement, possible lower value of your home and no loan for college. How about drop in stock and savings and checking and everything to zero. How about losing your home, not having a job, not being able to afford food or clothing? Do you understand the consequence of no fix to this problem goes way beyond "bailing out their greedy banker butts." It is just not wall street here, it is the entire American economy.
boy, this really paints the picture of
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Did you see the picture of O at his ceremony?
Creeped me out. I recall no president having a big picture of himself. Reminded me of Hitler and Sadam Hussein times.
Lets look at the big picture
Seems like each time a president leaves office everyone "hems and haws" at the list of people they pardon (especially those who dislike whatever president is leaving office). Every exiting president has had their list of people who should never have received pardons. Some yes, like first time offenders, people arrested for mairjuana, or caught turning back odometers, etc).
Maybe you should have also posted the list of people Clinton pardoned. All you said was "he pardoned some nice ones too". You make it sound like GW is pardoning hardened criminal while BC only pardoned some people who did petty crimes. Even though you didn't say that, by saying "he pardoned some nice ones too" it takes away from the seriousness of the people he did pardon. But since you didn't post Clinton's pardons I will. Now before anyone throws a fit because I know a lot of you think Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm just posting to show that he pardoned as many creeps as Bush is. (BTW - I didn't, have never, and do not support Bush - can't stand the guy, but at let's try to keep it honest here). Oh and my favorites are the money launderers, income tax evaders, bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the government, issuing worthless checks, bank fraud, etc - all those things that helped to start bringing our economy down). Those and Roger Clinton, Marc Rich, and Susan McDougal, I did notice how he pardoned a lot of people who lied, but then again that was Clinton's whole 8 years in office - one lie after another, so doesn't surprise me he pardoned people who lied under oath.
You said something in regards to food stamps...look at #22 on Clintons list - Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps. I found an interesting article called "10 Heated Presidential Pardons" that goes back to George Washington. I'll post the link. All I'm saying here is that each president throughout our history has pardoned some pretty bad people that should not be pardoned. GW is no different and no more worse than any of the previous. Here's the article - an interesting read.
http://www.kitv.com/presidential-race/17578058/detail.html
Here's the list of Clinton's pardons
[edit] Pardons
- Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[4]
- Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
- Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
- Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
- William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
- Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
- Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
- Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
- Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
- Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
- David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
- Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
- Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
- Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
- David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
- Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
- John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
- Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
- Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
- Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
- Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
- Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
- Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
- Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
- Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
- David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
- Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
- John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
- Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
- Richard Anthony DE Labio (Mail fraud)
- John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
- Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
- Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
- Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
- Larry Lee Duncan
- Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
- Robert Clinton Fain
- Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
- Alvarez Ferrouillet
- Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
- William Dennis Fugazy
- Lloyd Reid George
- Louis Goldstein
- Rubye Lee Gordon
- Pincus Green
- Robert Ivey Hamner
- Samuel Price Handley
- Woodie Randolph Handley
- Jay Houston Harmon
- Rick Hendrick
- John Hummingson
- David S. Herdlinger
- Debi Rae Huckleberry
- Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
- Donald Ray James
- Stanley Pruet Jobe
- Ruben H. Johnson
- Linda Jones
- James Howard Lake
- June Louise Lewis
- Salim Bonnor Lewis
- John Leighton Lodwick
- Hildebrando Lopez
- Jose Julio Luaces
- James Timothy Maness
- James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
- John Robert Martin
- Frank Ayala Martinez
- Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
- John Francis McCormick
- Susan H. McDougal
- Howard Mechanic
- Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
- Samuel Loring Morison
- Charles Wilfred Morgan III
- Richard Anthony Nazzaro
- Charlene Ann Nosenko
- Vernon Raymond Obermeier
- Miguelina Ogalde
- David C. Owen
- Robert W. Palmer
- Kelli Anne Perhosky
- Richard H. Pezzopane
- Orville Rex Phillips
- Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
- James G. Powell
- Norman Lyle Prouse
- Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[5]
- Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
- Charles D. Ravenel
- William Clyde Ray
- Alfredo Luna Regalado
- Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
- Marc Rich
- Howard Winfield Riddle
- Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
- Samuel Lee Robbins
- Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
- Michael James Rogers
- Anna Louise Ross
- Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
- Gerald Glen Rust
- Jerri Ann Rust
- Bettye June Rutherford
- Gregory Lee Sands
- Adolph Schwimmer
- Albert A. Seretti Jr.
- Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
- Dennis Joseph Smith
- Gerald Owen Smith
- Stephen A. Smith
- Jimmie Lee Speake
- Charles Bernard Stewart
- Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
- Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
- Richard Lee Tannehill
- Nicholas C. Tenaglia
- Gary Allen Thomas
- Larry Weldon Todd
- Olga C. Trevino
- Ignatious Vamvouklis
- Patricia A. Van De Weerd
- Christopher V. Wade
- Bill Wayne Warmath
- Jack Kenneth Watson
- Donna Lynn Webb
- Donald William Wells
- Robert H. Wendt
- Jack L. Williams
- Kavin Arthur Williams
- Robert Michael Williams
- Jimmie Lee Wilson
- Thelma Louise Wingate
- Mitchell Couey Wood
- Warren Stannard Wood
- Dewey Worthey
- Rick Allen Yale
- Joseph A. Yasak
- William Stanley Yingling
- Phillip David Young
- Keith Sanders
- Darren Muci
- John Scott (not a full pardon)
[edit] Commutations
- Ronald Henderson Blackley
- Bert Wayne Bolan
- Gloria Libia Camargo
- Charles F. Campbell
- David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
- Lau Ching Chin
- Donald R. Clark
- Loreta De-Ann Coffman
- Derrick Curry
- Velinda Desalus
- Jacob Elbaum
- Linda Sue Evans
- Loretta Sharon Fish
- Antoinette M. Frink
- David Goldstein
- Gerard A. Greenfield
- Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges[3]
- Jodie E. Israel
- Kimberly Johnson
- Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
- Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
- Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
- Kellie Ann Mann
- Peter Ninemire
- Hugh Ricardo Padmore
- Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
- Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
- Pedro Miguel Riveiro
- Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
- Susan Rosenberg
- Kalmen Stern
- Cory Stringfellow
- Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
- Thomas Wilson Waddell III
- Harvey Weinig
- Kim Allen Willis
- Kemba Smith
- Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant
I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...
I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...
I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
What is wrong with this picture?????
*It's a very complicated bill. People in congress obviously don't even understand it.*???? People in congress WROTE this bill, how can they not understand it? How in the world can they vote for it? How can you ask someone to accept it when you are saying the very people who wrote it do not know what is in it, let alone understand it???
WE do get the big picture, which is why we care about
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Looking at a smaller picture...
While the government money is going to bail out AIG and for pork programs, here in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia is closing libraries and pools, cutting firefighters and police. And they are still looking a huge deficit and intend to raise property taxes 18% this year. Low and lower middle class people who are already struggling, who are looking at the grim possibility of losing their jobs, are now being hit with that. And whether they own or rent makes no difference; if the taxes go up, their rent will go up.
But, oh boy, it's much more important to keep AIG going and to invest in "green programs" for clean energy. What good is any of that going to do for the soon-to-be-homeless people of Philadelphia?
Oh, you mean as opposed to bigger tax cuts for the upper 1/3 of the nation? Really, still waiting f
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link to picture I posted
Sorry it didnt come through, guys..it was information about Laura's manslaughter and had a few good pictures..I wanted to share but they didnt come through..anyway, here is the link..check it out..
http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434
The picture is obviously symbolic & it's apparent to me why they did it. sm
This was an event so emotional that it seems to have welded shut the minds of many Americans. People have shut off their natural curiosity to know what really happened on that fateful day. Have you seen The Matrix? It's a red pill - blue pill choice. Take the blue pill and wake up in the morning and everything is the same as its always been- comfortable. Take the red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Many Americans have chosen the blue pill- they don't want to know the truth, just feed them info that confirms what they've already been told and that's good enough.
So, I think the picture is a little more than someone with a little too much time on their hands.
I saw the picture, Kaydie...the B is backwards!
The police have serious doubts about her story, as well. You are very gullible!
What I will never understand is why the Clintons are even still in the picture
Fox news refreshed my memory this weekend about Bill Clinton. I cannot understand why this man is still welcomed with open arms. He disgraced his office and his family. He should have just faded into the sunset. Kind of tells you something about the morals in this country.
He has got to paint as dark a picture as
pretty good job of it, so when just a glimmer of light shines through, he can tell you, Yes, I Did!
But, I sure hate to bust your bubble, we are noncombustible, we are not going extinct, we ain't going anywhere! We just here praying for our country.
Wow, why don't you post your picture so we can judge you, too?
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