Agree, JTBB. Dems keep their own standards low
Posted By: so when they do bad, not surprising.nm on 2009-06-24
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if it weren't for double standards, liberals wouldn't have any standards at all!
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Right on, JTBB!! I agree
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I agree with both JTBB and cj.
Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state somewhere?
People can go to City Hall and get married without any church ceremony involved. More and more states now are coming to their senses and realizing that that ISN'T any of our business.
I wish them all well.
I agree with you too, JTBB.
Trying to defend the indefensible, yet grilling Obama for anything and everything. Talk about hypocrites!
Your posts are always very insightful and intelligent. Your intelligence scares the daylights out of them. Keep it up.
I agree with you too, JTBB.
Trying to defend the indefensible, yet grilling Obama for anything and everything.
Your posts are always very insightful and intelligent. Your intelligence scares the daylights out of them. Keep it up. There are some of us here who agree with and side with you.
Of course you agree JTBB....
What exactly did he do wrong by saying we live in a great country? You don't think you live in a great country? Then move!! He's been too patriotic? What garbage! He's a white guy who loves his country and that just eats away at ya!
Sorry, JTBB, I agree with Patty. I do not
believe everything what the Bible says, but I believe that homosexuality is wrong.
Not because it is written in the Bible, because it just IS. It always was and still is.
I do not hate them, I would never do something bad to them, I wish them all the best, but I just would not even socialize with them, especially as a mother with kids.
Hey JTBB - I agree with you for once in a long time - see message
Too many posts to reply to so I'll reply here - I read the article. This is not a once in awhile family gathering, BBQ or picnic. This is weekly business meeting. Yes, that's right - business. Religion is a business. If you just had a few people every once in awhile coming to your house that would be one thing, but the article stated they have regular meetings in the home. I think the person who wrote the article did a little bit of "fibbing" with saying they were asked if they say "praise the lord" and if they pray. Could have happened, but I highly doubt it (again that's JMO). The concern the county has is that the home is being used as a business without a business permit. What they are doing is something that should be held in churches - which by the way ALL churches should be taxed seeing as they are all businesses.
I do agree very much with your assessment that these are the same people trying to take away the rights of the LGBT community. It does seem to be a one-way avenue. For the most part all the communities I have lived in the Christians want their rights, but they are also the first to want to remove the rights of other groups if they don't coincide with their beliefs.
If religious people want to have a small gathering in their home that's fine, but bringing a congregation of people into your home is a business, especially if it is on a regular basis.
People have bible meetings all the time in their own homes, but they don't have them on a regular basis and they don't have large groups making them stand out. They should keep their religious assemblies where it belongs - in the churches - and because its a business it should be taxed.
One other note is that the article mentioned what about tupperware parties or baseball games. Well those are not regular business meeetings going on.
I am sick of the hypocracy they have. I'm tired of hearing about "poor us, we can't pray, we can't do this, we can't do that, their trying to take away our rights". Yet everytime when I hear what is really going on I find the story has been exagerated to fit the "poor us" philosophy. Good example is this story. It started out with "poor us, we can pray in our own homes", when the truth comes out they are holding regular business meetings with their congregation meeting at their home residence. Two entirely different things.
Here is one thing dems and pubs can agree on
We're glad its over.
Okay - back to work for me, just thought of that.
fair by whose standards?
Not fair by my standards. Who is making the rules about fair and unfair?
Double Standards?
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
There’s no doubt the Charles Gibson interviews showed extreme prejudice against Palin and extreme favoritism towards Obama…He constantly questioned her ability to lead but never questioned Obama’s ability to lead, all the more amazing considering that Palin was the only one with executive experience and the presidency is the highest level executive job in politics.
There's much more at The Anchoress, so head over there to see the full report.
Again double standards it looks like
Palin was trashed for running for office when she had kids and who will be taking care of the kids, she'll leave them just so she can campaign, blah, blah, blah. But it's okay for Michelle and Obama to leave their kids?
Now that's what I call double standards.
Double standards?...(sm)
Palin is currently paying back her state for misappropriated funds, Sanford is going to have to pay back money for his Argentina trip, and Ensign used pub party money to pay off his mistress et al, and you're worried about a party at the White House?
I think I would much rather pay for an event that not only collects money for charities but also provides a pick-me-up for those invited (congress and the media) than I would for yet another republican sordid affair.
I am seeing double standards flying
all over the place. yes, it bothers me, including on this board. A lot of this stuff is said so viciously it is amazing. I don't think either candidate has a leg to stand on talking about anybody's housing arrangements. Let's face it, none of them know what kind of lives we are living out here. They all sound like they come from everyday people and can identify with us poor slobs. Nobody anymore is going to set down their axe and get on a wagon to washington. Those days are long gone. Drug crimes are ruining this country, we have so lost any attempt at a grip on this, it is unreal; I know - let's go rip somebody for smoking. They probably aren't armed like a 14 year old might be. I wish both sides would tell the whole truth and not just whatever one liners they choose to take out on exhibit. And I think some of the comments safely said incognito are quite brave in their anonymous attacks, right down to picking on someone's clothing or hair. This is totally unnecessary and really juvenile, like a bunch of high school girls beating up on some poor slob nobody likes. No wonder our kids are doing this, they are learning it from their parents. I guess I am just too old now for all this stuff, all I can think is my daddy would have killed me for picking on someone. Too dog pack for me. I can sense you don't like McCain, well I like him better than Obama because I have yet to hear something more substantial than wanting change. Hitler and Castro said exactly the same thing and the people went for it and got what they wanted. And yes, you think it can't possibly happen again, but it can and does. All of American still harping about slavery, but we don't do anything about the slavery still alive and well in Africa and other places, including USA brought over here by other countries who buy kids to do their housework. Obama says charity begins at home, but not apparently for his half-brother who lives in Nairobi on $12 a year. There seem to be new standards in this country and I just can't agree with all of them. He is a perfect candidate for poster child for pro-life. His mother easily could have aborted him and that child would never have grown up to run for President. I used to think I was pro-choice, but after raising children and now enjoying my grandchildren and looking at the partial abortion diagrams, I have had to rethink this. I know some argue life does not begin until later, but every 6th grader is taught life begins with a cells, whether in a plant or animal or human. If a stranger ran up to a pregnant woman and managed to stab her baby in the back of the head with a pair of scissors, he would be arrested, tried and convicted. It is no wonder so many of our youngsters are confused. We are leaving them a huge mess, and I am not happy with anybody running in this election. I may just vote for Paris Hilton, at least she does not pretend to be anything but what she is.
It's painfully obvious she has a set of standards for herself
Don't waste your breath. People that closed minded are typically beyond enlightenment.
Double standards abound
If someone (i.e. a non-Democrat) said this about Hilary, you guys would be all over it like white on rice. This was just a rude thing to say and he got his digs in. And to think he is an "eloquent" speaker? Surely a Harvard-educated man would have a better choice of words than that? NOT.
It is the party of double standards....
they really should add it to their platform. Be honest. What a concept.
Double standards? Here's what McCain said
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_10786968
"The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly," he said on the Senate floor in May 1993.
Her's another:
The 2002 campaign finance law that bears McCain's name specifically barred any funds that "are donated for the purpose of supporting the activities of a federal or state office holder" from being used for personal expenses INCLUDING CLOTHING.
More double standards ...go figure (sm)
*when has government ever solved a problem.*
*They actually believe that is their government's job, to make all their laws and tell them how to live.*
How about remembering that you said this when it comes to abortion and same sex marriage.
Talk about double standards!
There were posters on this very forum who wanted their mortgages to be paid so they could buy a big-screen television for their bedroom or put a new deck on their house? Their mouths were watering dreaming about what they could buy if the government would just pay off their mortgages. Some live on farms that most likely receive government subsidies, yet they complain about the threat of Socialism. Double standards abound!
Double standards is what they live by
The liberal nazi media also fails to mention that Rush actually said he wanted the socialist plans of Obama's to fail. He said if Obama is going to push a socialist/communist economic plan through why in the world would anyone want that to succeed.
But of course they never tell you that they said they wanted Bush to fail. They act quite the innocent routine - luckily the non-kool-aid drinkers know better.
That's what I talk about double standards
They blame 911 on Bush (and he was only in their for 8 months), not the previous administration.
But anything bad happens during this administration they blame the previous administration.
So their future will be anything bad, it was the previous presidents fault, anything good they'll credit the O.
As for the previous president, anything bad it was his fault but anything good that happened was a result of Clinton.
Talk about twisted minds.
I guess he is awesome if your standards are
Personally, I think he is a traitor and I hope he gets fired!
Double standards my friend...that is all
it is. They will crush Depass because he compared Michelle Obama to a gorilla which will have the race card flying high. Not only was Depass a conservative making a joke about a democrat but he was joking about a black democrat. In regards to the Letterman vs. Palin saga....Palin is a conservative white woman and therefore Letterman's comments about Palin being a slutty looking flight attendant didn't upset the masses because she is a conservative white woman. As for the joke about her daughter, regardless of which daughter he claims to have been joking about, it was in poor taste but Letterman will see no punishment for it because he is an outspoken liberal and he was bashing on a white conservative woman. Same reason why no woman's activists have EVER stood up for Palin even when that one guy hung an effigy of Palin for Halloween. If that same man had hung an effigy of Barrack Obama for Halloween......there would have been riots and the race card would have been thrown out. Double standards! Plain and simple.
The old double standards. Libs hate it. sm
no way PR is on the WH staff, but just keep on talking. You just look more foolish all the time. Chavez has been accusing the US of trying to off him for a long time. PR was just echoing that, but who really cares.
Gotta love those double standards, eh?
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Carville vs. Limbaugh..more double standards
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.
By Bill Sammon
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed."
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I’m wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.
The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don’t want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"
The press followed Carville’s orders, never reporting his or Greenberg’s desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party’s top strategists, that Bush should fail.
That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.
Gotta love the double standards in politics.
Double standards....How about Hillary's pantsuits and Michelle's Valentino's....
Sarah Palin’s Shopping Spree: A Political Double Standard?
The mainstream media and liberals everywhere are aghast at how much the McCain camp spent on an apparent fashion overhaul for Sarah Palin.
The spending on so-called “campaign accessories” included bills totaling roughly $150,000.
An anchor at a prominent network (not FOX News) rudely sniffed that for the amount of money the campaign spent Palin should look better. (For the record I’m fairly certain this anchor does not shop at K-Mart.)
This is not taxpayer money. If the McCain camp wants to blow funds on some designer duds, that’s their prerogative. Might not be the most brilliant idea when you trail in fundraising, but it’s their decision as long as they haven’t violated any election laws.
Women traditionally endure exponentially more scrutiny than men. Hillary has been under the fashion microscope for almost two decades. That’s simply a fact, but it’s hardly fair.
The Los Angeles Times reported that Hillary’s jackets cost about $3,000, her shirts run to $1,350 and her pants hover around the $2,000 mark. Let’s do the math.
That’s over $6,000 a suit. And Hillary owns a lot of pants suits! And she looks great. If she didn’t, she’d be vilified for looking frumpy and lacking style-savvy the way she was in the 1990’s.
There is no question excessive primping and preening by presidential candidates is riddled with risk. John Edwards was lambasted over his $400 hair cuts in 2007 as was John McCain over his $520 Ferragamo shoes. We expect our candidates to look good, but not too good. We like a put together politician but have adverse reaction when we hear the price tag. For a newcomer like Palin, it’s par for the course that she’s stepped up her look. Imagine if she didn’t? She’d be the subject of more ridicule than she is now.
It’s not just Palin who realizes the benefits of being sharp dressed on the stump:
The San Francisco Chronicle reported that friends of Obama say the biggest change in him since his recent success on the national political scene is that he’s dressing better and shopping at the ultra-fashionable Barney’s because, for the first time in his life, he can afford to. Apparently “the fierce urgency of now” includes killer threads.
And how about Michelle Obama? The New York Times Style section published an entire article praising her new, and likely very pricey, sense of style. The purple Maria Pinto sheath she wore at a campaign rally retails for $900, and as the New York Times put it is: “not the kind of garment most working-class voters can reasonably aspire to.”
The current issue of Harper’s Bazaar notes that the Democratic presidential candiate’s wife wears Valentino, among others. Looks like when the Obamas say “spread the wealth around,” they mean at top shelf department stores.
I’m not outraged at this. The pressure of being in the public eye is understandable. What’s disturbing is the double standard. Michelle Obama gets hailed by the fashionistas while Palin gets crucified and mocked by the fashion police.
These same liberals who are now appalled at the Palin shopping spree are the same ones that thought it shallow and superficial to discuss Newsweek’s obvious recent cheap shot cover of Sarah Palin because we have more important fish to fry. Where are these people now to shout that this issue is trivial? And how do they manage to get so fired up about Palin’s appearance all of sudden?
I’m waiting for the left to condemn the insignificance of this story and I’m not holding my breath.
Hey jtbb.....here's one for you....sm
But you really can't find much on this subject, prolly cuz the powers that be don't want you to know, or else it isn't newsworthy to them, and thus it's hard to find the info. You know how that goes.
Fox News is middle of the road these days, not really far right, as most would have you believe. But they still report on subjects that most other far left news outlets ignore.
As for any of the bailouts, I was for the first one the way it was first presented as a three page document...however, it quickly became out of touch and out of hand....it no longer resembles(d) what it was originally for. All of them are worthless, throwing good money after bad, so to speak.
All they have done is pave the way for Obama to create bigger and bigger government, and take more freedoms away from all of us. Like his people have said recently....."we will let no good crisis go to waste"....they will use any and all to further their socialist causes....calling them by any other name, until everything is owned and run by the government. It's a sad day in America, and I hope we can hold out and hold on through the next stormy four years.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008480682_gm08.html
JTBB
I sure am glad to see you!! Seems this board is just about devoid of names anymore.
Hey JTBB & GP
Good to see you both. I may not always agree with your posts but I enjoy what people have to say (no matter how demented you all are - HA HA HA HA - just joking). I'm seeing a lot of sm (see message), and a lot of people finishing their thoughts in place of a name. Although JTBB I'm seeing more people agreeing with you than not on this board. Always good to get people's opinions. I'm always ready for a cat fight. HA HA
Well, now, JTBB...
...that wouldn't work out so well for him, either, because McCain wasn't born in the United States.
To JTBB
In every post you make sure to say something bashing a "pub." How do you know they are a pub?
Thank you, JTBB!
I'm not surprised at all by your compassion; nevertheless, your post almost brought me to tears, as well. I've always enjoyed reading your posts and admire your sense of humor and strength in dealing with some people on this board.
Thank you again for your post. It means a lot! 
JTBB would have said something very different
We know it and JTBB knows it.
JTBB is just another example of the liberals who dishonestly claim freedoms for themselves ONLY.
So let me paraphrase you, JTBB: "If you want to assert rights for yourself and groups that you like, you have to assert them for others and for groups that you don't happen to like."
Get it?
Thank you JTBB - I did not know that
I thought it was part of sex education class that taught about acceptance of that lifestyle. Funny how when you find out the truth it puts things in a different light.
Thanks for your post.
Hi, JTBB
Ahmedinejad won the election. This is not good. I bet it has to do with the fact that Netanyahu refuses to accept the 2-state solution. So the people decided to re-elect the hardliner and not the more moderate candidate, Iran being a supporter of the Palestinian cause. Or maybe manipulation was going on?
OMG, JTBB, I am almost always on your
side.
That you plant 'upside-down' tomatoes gave me a big chuckle. I guess that's not the only thing that is 'upside-down' with you!
You are hilarious and your posts are always exciting and thought provocing, never boring.
Keep up the good work!
JTBB
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JTBB.... it's has ALWAYS been about that with you!
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JTBB - I knew you'd try this
That is why I said that are many more websites than just what I listed. You can say all you want and try to reason that your viewpoints and your opinions are truthful while the others aren't, but in actuality they all are like Hitler. The actions of what Obama has done so far are like Hitler's whether you like to hear it or not.
Right on, JTBB. W's $40M makes O's $21M
Nice to have a balanced perspective.
Donn't you wish there were only one of JTBB.
you seem to be talking to her. What good people? I don't see her running down any GOOD people?
Hey JTBB my apologies to you too
Boy, talk about getting slapped into reality (more like smacked) by Just Curious.
After 10 seconds I turned Olberman off and looked for an article to read. Got the same message but without the painful anguished look on Olberman's face. HA HA.
You are right - I can't find this story in any of the conservative web pages.
Do I believe what we have in the office right now are neocons? Most and absolutely yes!!!! Do I believe what we have coming in is the Nazi regime. Most definitely yes!!! I don't know whether I like that or not because basically I do not see a difference. Only time will tell. I hope Obama will do a good job, I really really really do. This country is just in shambles. Am I worried - oh my gosh yes because of who he has been picking to fill his cabinet. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I may certainly be wrong, but I don't see him picking any conservatives in his cabinet, but yet when he was campaigning he was saying he was the only candidate who can bring the two sides together and he will choose both liberals and conservatives for his positions, yet I have yet to see any conservatives. I most certainly do not want more of the same, but I know there are a lot of conservatives who could do a good job, but to me I feel like he is just pushing them aside, which I feel is going to lead to such a division in the country. I still don't know what it is the Clinton have over him, but for him to pick her - oh my gosh!!!!!
I think I just take offense (even though I'm not conservative - I'm an independent with some conservative viewpoints and some liberal viewpoints) but I take offense when one side is called "the enemy" and people lump everyone into one group.
I do hope he does good. I hope he can get some jobs created and the economy back on track.
BRAVO, JTBB!
 You have echoed my thoughts, but much more eloquently!
I think she's JTBB in disguise.
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That's rich, JTBB....lol...nm
I disagree with you JTBB
So many economists have said this so-called stimulus will not work. All we can do is take a wait and see attitude and hope it will, but I have my doubts. After all, you and I and the many millions of taxpayers, plus our children, grandchildren and great-children will be paying for years to come.
O is already workintg on another stimulus plan if this one doesn't work. He has already "spent" more money in the few weeks he has been president than any other president in history. He is too close to FDR, who everyone now knows did not help, but hinder the American economy when he was president.
I had hope, but just watching the stock market fall into the abyss not seen in how many years, tells me they feel it will not work, either.
I just don't know where we are headed, but I'm very uncomfortable with what is going on lately. Every time they (Geithner, O, Gibbs) talk, the market falls. That's not a good sign. Geithner has no idea what's he's doing. O uses fear tactics all the time, and Gibbs certainly does not know what is going on.
So, I tend to disagree iwth you. I no longer have any hope that things will get better.
Even our governor thinks this will "fix everything." He's braggin our state is getting $6B. I looked it up. Our state is only getting half of that. Another frigging lie from a democratic governor.
So, sorry if I don't agree, but I don't. This country is going down to its ankles and unless they stop passing stimulus plans, it's the end (hubby's thoughts, which I tend to agree with).
Well, JTBB, I guess we know who . . . sm
all the violent rabblerousers are on here now, don't we? Maybe they all can secede to Alaska with SP.
JTBB you crack me up!
Do you do this all day long? You are always on here with this stuff. There is a whole life out there. Go live it and quit worrying that us horrible Republicans are going to get you. Your party won! You have Obama! Aren't you happy yet? Surely you have something else to do all day...don't you? Hannity and Keith get paid to do this. You don't dear, go find a hobby.
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