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Agree...great post. Please come back and share...sm

Posted By: LVMT on 2006-08-15
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What a great post!! I totally agree with everything you said.

Anyone who knows me personally knows that when Bush was running for President in 2000, I told everyone I know that if he's elected, we'll find ourselves at war with Iraq.  Nobody believed me.


It's ironic that the reason DIDN'T vote for him in 2004 was the very same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000:  I was against war with Iraq.


What is particularly troubling about all this is that Bush appeared to use the tragedy of 9/11 to justify his war against Iraq.


It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that this war will eventually be deemed as an illegal war.


We don't know what al Quaeda will do next.  Wouldn't surprise me to discover that they were part of the "hacking" team that got ahold of everyone's credit card numbers the other day.


If Bush cares so much about America, he could begin to show it by monitoring our borders. He's been incredibly negligent in that regard.


He promised he would not impose a draft. Yet, recruitment goals haven't been met for several months now. If I had a child of that age, I certainly would try to talk him/her out of joining the military.  The government has proven they lie to soldiers, hold reservists hostage, fail to provide adequate equipment to protect soldiers, etc., etc., etc! He will have to bring back the draft, and we can add that to the gazillion lies he's told.


I think your post was great, and I particularly enjoyed the one regarding Hitler that you wrote above.  You nailed it!!!



Great post, Chele. I agree. Besides,

parents have to consent to ANY OTHER procedure for the child, why would this be any different? 


Abortion is a horrible, horrible thing that is used by Planned Parentood to make money and used as birth control. 


Great post, MT! I totally agree with you,
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Great post, Chele... totally agree.nm
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I agree, Kaydie. Great post!!! Thank you for serving
the USA.  My family and I appreciate you!
Thanks, that was great. May I share
You've probably already read it, but it's worth reading more than once.

We’re Not in Lake Wobegon Anymore
How did the Party of Lincoln and Liberty transmogrify into the party of Newt Gingrich’s evil spawn and their Etch-A-Sketch president, a dull and rigid man, whose philosophy is a jumble of badly sutured body parts trying to walk?
By Garrison Keillor August 26, 2004

Something has gone seriously haywire with the Republican Party. Once, it was the party of pragmatic Main Street businessmen in steel-rimmed spectacles who decried profligacy and waste, were devoted to their communities and supported the sort of prosperity that raises all ships. They were good-hearted people who vanquished the gnarlier elements of their party, the paranoid Roosevelt-haters, the flat Earthers and Prohibitionists, the antipapist antiforeigner element. The genial Eisenhower was their man, a genuine American hero of D-Day, who made it OK for reasonable people to vote Republican. He brought the Korean War to a stalemate, produced the Interstate Highway System, declined to rescue the French colonial army in Vietnam, and gave us a period of peace and prosperity, in which (oddly) American arts and letters flourished and higher education burgeoned—and there was a degree of plain decency in the country. Fifties Republicans were giants compared to today’s. Richard Nixon was the last Republican leader to feel a Christian obligation toward the poor.

In the years between Nixon and Newt Gingrich, the party migrated southward down the Twisting Trail of Rhetoric and sneered at the idea of public service and became the Scourge of Liberalism, the Great Crusade Against the Sixties, the Death Star of Government, a gang of pirates that diverted and fascinated the media by their sheer chutzpah, such as the misty-eyed flag-waving of Ronald Reagan who, while George McGovern flew bombers in World War II, took a pass and made training films in Long Beach. The Nixon moderate vanished like the passenger pigeon, purged by a legion of angry white men who rose to power on pure punk politics. “Bipartisanship is another term of date rape,” says Grover Norquist, the Sid Vicious of the GOP. “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” The boy has Oedipal problems and government is his daddy.

The party of Lincoln and Liberty was transmogrified into the party of hairy-backed swamp developers and corporate shills, faith-based economists, fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of convenience, freelance racists, misanthropic frat boys, shrieking midgets of AM radio, tax cheats, nihilists in golf pants, brownshirts in pinstripes, sweatshop tycoons, hacks, fakirs, aggressive dorks, Lamborghini libertarians, people who believe Neil Armstrong’s moonwalk was filmed in Roswell, New Mexico, little honkers out to diminish the rest of us, Newt’s evil spawn and their Etch-A-Sketch president, a dull and rigid man suspicious of the free flow of information and of secular institutions, whose philosophy is a jumble of badly sutured body parts trying to walk. Republicans: The No.1 reason the rest of the world thinks we’re deaf, dumb and dangerous.

Rich ironies abound! Lies pop up like toadstools in the forest! Wild swine crowd round the public trough! Outrageous gerrymandering! Pocket lining on a massive scale! Paid lobbyists sit in committee rooms and write legislation to alleviate the suffering of billionaires! Hypocrisies shine like cat turds in the moonlight! O Mark Twain, where art thou at this hour? Arise and behold the Gilded Age reincarnated gaudier than ever, upholding great wealth as the sure sign of Divine Grace.

Here in 2004, George W. Bush is running for reelection on a platform of tragedy—the single greatest failure of national defense in our history, the attacks of 9/11 in which 19 men with box cutters put this nation into a tailspin, a failure the details of which the White House fought to keep secret even as it ran the country into hock up to the hubcaps, thanks to generous tax cuts for the well-fixed, hoping to lead us into a box canyon of debt that will render government impotent, even as we engage in a war against a small country that was undertaken for the president’s personal satisfaction but sold to the American public on the basis of brazen misinformation, a war whose purpose is to distract us from an enormous transfer of wealth taking place in this country, flowing upward, and the deception is working beautifully.

The concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the few is the death knell of democracy. No republic in the history of humanity has survived this. The election of 2004 will say something about what happens to ours. The omens are not good.

Our beloved land has been fogged with fear—fear, the greatest political strategy ever. An ominous silence, distant sirens, a drumbeat of whispered warnings and alarms to keep the public uneasy and silence the opposition. And in a time of vague fear, you can appoint bullet-brained judges, strip the bark off the Constitution, eviscerate federal regulatory agencies, bring public education to a standstill, stupefy the press, lavish gorgeous tax breaks on the rich.

There is a stink drifting through this election year. It isn’t the Florida recount or the Supreme Court decision. No, it’s 9/11 that we keep coming back to. It wasn’t the “end of innocence,” or a turning point in our history, or a cosmic occurrence, it was an event, a lapse of security. And patriotism shouldn’t prevent people from asking hard questions of the man who was purportedly in charge of national security at the time.

Whenever I think of those New Yorkers hurrying along Park Place or getting off the No.1 Broadway local, hustling toward their office on the 90th floor, the morning paper under their arms, I think of that non-reader George W. Bush and how he hopes to exploit those people with a little economic uptick, maybe the capture of Osama, cruise to victory in November and proceed to get some serious nation-changing done in his second term.

This year, as in the past, Republicans will portray us Democrats as embittered academics, desiccated Unitarians, whacked-out hippies and communards, people who talk to telephone poles, the party of the Deadheads. They will wave enormous flags and wow over and over the footage of firemen in the wreckage of the World Trade Center and bodies being carried out and they will lie about their economic policies with astonishing enthusiasm.

The Union is what needs defending this year. Government of Enron and by Halliburton and for the Southern Baptists is not the same as what Lincoln spoke of. This gang of Pithecanthropus Republicanii has humbugged us to death on terrorism and tax cuts for the comfy and school prayer and flag burning and claimed the right to know what books we read and to dump their sewage upstream from the town and clear-cut the forests and gut the IRS and mark up the constitution on behalf of intolerance and promote the corporate takeover of the public airwaves and to hell with anybody who opposes them.

This is a great country, and it wasn’t made so by angry people. We have a sacred duty to bequeath it to our grandchildren in better shape than however we found it. We have a long way to go and we’re not getting any younger.

Dante said that the hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who in time of crisis remain neutral, so I have spoken my piece, and thank you, dear reader. It’s a beautiful world, rain or shine, and there is more to life than winning.
GP....I hope you will come back and share...
the "what comes next" email.

Thanks!
Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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I share your concerns and agree
with everything you have said, but after having been in this business since the early 70s, I've learned never to expect anyone to speak up on behalf of MTs except the MTs themselves. I have never paid membership fees to AAMT and have never had the need to pay for certification, but I would pay MT union due in a heartbeat.
Ain't that the truth! (Sam, great to see you back!)
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As I said above, come back to this same board and apologize when he does a great job!
Geesh! Give the guy a chance already before you knock him!
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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If we can't share the wealth, we can at least share a laugh...nm
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great post
Im amazed at how much debate I have caused on both boards, LOL!  I have become *the* poster to be talked about, attacked, compared to.  Thank you for your refreshing post replying to IMHO a mean spirited obviously very troubled conservative poster.  This person has been on my case since day one, along with her two cohorts.  Frankly, from what I can see, they are just about the only ones who consistently post on the conservative board.  I guess others after a while get tired of the attack mode or just give up trying to debate logically and intelligently.  They say Im a lunatic and certifiable.  By reading their nasty posts, If anyone is certifiable, they are.  They say they are Christian.  Not like any Christian I have ever know.  The Christians I grew up with were nice, caring, accepting people.  Not judgmental hateful closed minded individuals.  I perused the conservative board this morning, just to see which republican they are admiring this morning or which democrat they are dogging and OMG, Im being posted about all over the board.  A few posted yesterday and right away they started asking were the posters gt!!  I cracked up laughing this morning.  No, I wasnt on their board posting.  I was in Mexico for the weekend and got back this morning..Gee, I generated this much attention and publicity by just posting on one little board in the vast expanse of the World Wide Web.  Amazing!  After reading their troubling posts, with all their attacks (one says she never attacks, yet one of her favorite words from what I have read is troll), I have decided not to read the conservative board any more.  I frankly dont need their negative energy..I feel sorry for all three of them.  They sound like they are angry bitter fools, clinging to a way and thought of life, so afraid frankly of anyone else with different and/or better ideas for this country.  Some people will never change and expand their consciousness as these three have proven to me.  This board I will continue to read and post from time to time, as it is a good open minded and accepting board and if the conservatives post an attack to me pertaining to this post, I will not read it nor respond. 
Great post
Thank you for this post..It was a good one.  :o)
Great post gt!
Clinton always did know how to speak in clear terms about the basics of a matter - and speak to all people in plain language. Mystifying how Dubya's supporters claim he's the plain-talking one when every time he opens his mouth he's twisting the topic completely out of recognition or else just babbling incoherently.
LOL! Great post!!

Great post.
Couldn't agree with you more. 
Great post, PK; thanks.

great post!!! thanks :)

Great post
Excellent points regarding health care, insurance, taxes. This is a conservative viewpoint. Less taxes brings in more revenue, but congress rarely gets it.

I agree that whoever is elected will not accomplish all stated promises/goals. That's always the case. So many believe that the president has power to do whatever he wants, but that is not the case and never has been.
Great Post...Thank You!
That makes it crystal clear!
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GREAT post! Thank you!

Great post! You just know that if
the tables were turned they wouldn't want their money taken either. I have found that the people who moan and complain the most about not having any money are the ones who are in debt to the hilt, have never been taught to save a cent, blame the CC companies for making them charge so much and then expect the gov't to help them out in some way. How about this novel scenario: Work hard, save some money, don't try to outdo the neighbors with material things and take some responsibility. Don't expect a mere man who spouts pretty words and promises and only wants your vote to take care of you. Quit blaming the republicans, Bush, outsourcing, Wall Street fat cats, etc, and look in the mirror. The gov't cannot solve all your problems, be self-sufficient for once.
Great post!

My favorite part is: 


IF I am wrong one day when I meet my Creator I will find out and I'll take my Creator's answer any day over anyone who is reading something from a book I don't believe in.


IMHO, that's how freedom of religion is supposed to work.  Ironically, sometimes the only way to guarantee alleged freedom of religion is to have freedom FROM it.


It is a very personal issue that is ultimately between you and your Creator, not someone who demands to push their religious views on  you.


I recently heard a pastor give a prayer before a McCain rally, where he actually "warned" GOD that God's "reputation" is on the line here, and that God had better make sure that McCain becomes President or else those who believe in different "Gods" will "win."


This guy was essentially telling God to get his act together!


Great post!
This is an intelligent, straightforward, unbiased post.  The MTs on this board should take note of it and learn from it.
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Great post. Thanks :)
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What a great post!
I agree 100% with you, geek.
I also compare him to JFK:

Obama is elegant, a great, charismatic speaker, he has a wonderful voice, he is magnetic, honest, diplomatic, seldom aggressive and much more....

His speach during his last campaign in Orlando/Florida was the best ever, it was just overwhelming.

Great post, GP.

And I couldn't agree more about pardons for the two border patrol agents.  Instead, Bush's pardons have largely consisted of crooks who were involved in the savings and loan scandal of the 1980s.  Given today's current banking crooks and the shambles of the global economy, that says a lot about Bush's "morals" that he would prefer to pardon banking crooks instead of two brave men who were merely doing their jobs.


I think one of the biggest -- if not THE biggest -- injustice in my memory is those two men even spending one minute in jail.


Great post - thanks.
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Great post!

You summed it up beautifully.  Thanks. 


Wow! Right on - great post
I agree so much and could not have said it any better. They are knighting him calling him the savior and he hasn't even taken office yet. Time will tell whether he is a good president or not.

Thank you for your post.
Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post, gee. (sm)
The more he fails, the worse it will be for us all.  I hope he succeeds. 
Great post! (sm)

The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling. 


I thought your post was excellent.  Thank you.


Great post! (sm)

The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling. 


I thought your post was excellent.  Thank you.


Thank you! Great post!
After Jindal read his rebuttal tonight, this article is even MORE insightful.
Great post...sm
My favorite? If you're greener than Gore, you're green enough.
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Thank you. Great post. (sm)

I didn't agree with it when Bush did it (with Obama's support via his Senate vote), and I don't agree with it now.


I believe NO company in this country should ever be "too big to fail," and I believe all of these banks should have been allowed to survive or die on their own merits.


Furthermore, the "transparency" that was promised, so far has been nonexistent, and I'm against this, as well.


Anyway, I thought you wrote an awesome post.  Thank you. 


:-) - Great post
I've been following your messages for some time and you always put great thought into what you say. You don't let your emotions take you away (like I do), and you always just tell it like it is. I like your "Dave Mann the Caveman" statement. Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth. Sometimes people would rather just sit in their homes and continue to be dumbed down and think everything is hunky-dory. I have a BIL who refuses to listen to any bad news because "I can't handle it". But there are us out there who want to know the truth. We will listen to everything no matter how "weird" it may sound. Because that "weird theory" may just be the truth. So thanks for posts. Always insightful and fun to read.
Very well said - thank you for a great post
There's more I could say, but won't. Your post is very insightful and true.

Thanks for posting.
I agree, they did great, very classy
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I agree 100%. Other great examples of....
socialism...Cuba and Venezuela. See how it is working for them. Ends in dictatorship nearly every single time. People buy into class warfare and by the time they realize the middle class they were trying to save is truly gone and all you have is the "government" and everybody else...all the populace in the lower class. The handwriting is on the wall...and the socialist party of the US (the DNC) has us in its crosshairs...brought to you courtesy of George Soros and his vision of one world government. Hellooo.
I agree with you. As my great aunt always said
It is that simple.
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