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I agree, Kaydie. Great post!!! Thank you for serving

Posted By: Patriot on 2008-09-23
In Reply to: my take on his service - Kaydie

the USA.  My family and I appreciate you!


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I agree, thank you MT for serving our country
I want to add my thanks to the above.  I stop soldiers I see on the street or in the store to thank them for their service.  My son's best friend is in the Marines.  Lots of times these men and women are truly shocked when I stop them, hug them or shake their hands and say thank you from the bottom of my heart.  That to me is sad.  Everyone of us should be thanking them for their service.
I agree, thank you MT for serving our country
I want to add my thanks to the above.  I stop soldiers I see on the street or in the store to thank them for their service.  My son's best friend is in the Marines.  Lots of times these men and women are truly shocked when I stop them, hug them or shake their hands and say thank you from the bottom of my heart.  That to me is sad.  Everyone of us should be thanking them for their service.
What a great post!! I totally agree with everything you said.

Anyone who knows me personally knows that when Bush was running for President in 2000, I told everyone I know that if he's elected, we'll find ourselves at war with Iraq.  Nobody believed me.


It's ironic that the reason DIDN'T vote for him in 2004 was the very same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000:  I was against war with Iraq.


What is particularly troubling about all this is that Bush appeared to use the tragedy of 9/11 to justify his war against Iraq.


It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that this war will eventually be deemed as an illegal war.


We don't know what al Quaeda will do next.  Wouldn't surprise me to discover that they were part of the "hacking" team that got ahold of everyone's credit card numbers the other day.


If Bush cares so much about America, he could begin to show it by monitoring our borders. He's been incredibly negligent in that regard.


He promised he would not impose a draft. Yet, recruitment goals haven't been met for several months now. If I had a child of that age, I certainly would try to talk him/her out of joining the military.  The government has proven they lie to soldiers, hold reservists hostage, fail to provide adequate equipment to protect soldiers, etc., etc., etc! He will have to bring back the draft, and we can add that to the gazillion lies he's told.


I think your post was great, and I particularly enjoyed the one regarding Hitler that you wrote above.  You nailed it!!!



Great post, Chele. I agree. Besides,

parents have to consent to ANY OTHER procedure for the child, why would this be any different? 


Abortion is a horrible, horrible thing that is used by Planned Parentood to make money and used as birth control. 


Great post, MT! I totally agree with you,
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Agree...great post. Please come back and share...sm
your ideas.
Great post, Chele... totally agree.nm
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Kaydie...don't leave us. Between you, sam, and gourdpainter, I have had some great discussions. s
If you do leave for a while, at least come back and say hi every little bit.


Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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I agree with you Kaydie,
I would ALSO be on here not very happy if Obama does not stick to his word! I am an Obama supporter, but I ALSO expect him to try his darndest to do what he has promised. We all know that the president can't do everything with a snap of his fingers, he still needs backup from the Senate, but I DO expect him to go to bat for us, as he has said.
As for all the haters on here, yes you may not be one of them, but there ARE A LOT of them on here who have no good intentions at all.
Now this is something we CAN agree on, Kaydie.... sm
I agree wholeheartedly with your statements in this post, so maybe you and I are not from different worlds after all! LOL
Thanks, kaydie. Good post. nm
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Best post of the thread, Kaydie. nm

okay - Kaydie - I bite - what was your post?
I am white - but I have a black husband, 4 biracial stepchildren, 2 biracial grandchildren, 2 black brother-in-laws, and 4 biracial nieces and nephews. So I am definitely not racist, but sometimes I say things that get taken that way.

I am an Obama supporter at this point, but it is most definitely not because he is a black man. I was really sitting on the fence to be honest until McCain picked Palin - and I am sorry, but I just cannot see her in charge of this country and anything good coming out of that...
Kaydie, I totally agree with youir Dad. s/m
There is much wisdom in what he says.  I ended up being an Obama supporter, and I can tell you that I went into this election fully open minded about both candidates.  Upon seeing the way McCain turned his election into avoiding issues and smearing his opponent, that did it for me.  I want someone who is able to keep his cool no matter what.  When I see a man that is constantly berated and attacked handle himself with class and dignity, that is the kind of person I want running this country.  That doesn't mean that I am not scared.  Do I think he will be perfect?  Absolutely not, he admitted that himself.  But when the chips are down, I am confident that he will make the right decisions, as he said, with ""cautious haste"".  We need to give him a chance.  It has been expressed by many people from all over the world that his getting elected has given this country a new credibility and respect that it has been lacking for a long time, and that is a wonderful thing. 
Kaydie, your post is awesome and 100% the way that I feel s/m
about the whole thing as well. We are all entitled to our opinions, but let's remember that behind these screen names sits a real person with people who love them. Every one of us has value and something to add to this world. EVEN McCain and Palin are valuable citizens and have something to contribute, even if not from the White House. Obama, although I personally do not agree with his policies in general, will probably be good for our country in many ways. I am giving him a chance in my heart because I know that we all have to stick together. I wish him well and hope that we are a better country because of him, eventually...

Have a good day, MTs!!
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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Bitter self-serving rhetoric?

I have absolutely no personal ties whatsoever to the middle east, so exactly why would I be bitter, and what would I have to gain?  Your statement makes no sense.  The main benefit of actually recognizing the history of the region (as opposed to the Israeli version of the *truth*) would be for better political relations with the middle east.  Have you noticed that the rest of the world sees what's going on?  Why do you think there is so much resentment in the middle east for the US?  Israel (or rather our empowering of it and it's abuse of that power) is one of the main problems over there. 


Why would I care about your opinion?  I don't.  There are very few people's opinions that I actually value on this board.  Those would be the ones who can actually discuss a subject with reasonable viewpoints, and guess what?  Most of them disagree with me on most everything.  LOL 


I'm simply trying to get you to stay on the subject, which is obviously a lost cause.


great post
Im amazed at how much debate I have caused on both boards, LOL!  I have become *the* poster to be talked about, attacked, compared to.  Thank you for your refreshing post replying to IMHO a mean spirited obviously very troubled conservative poster.  This person has been on my case since day one, along with her two cohorts.  Frankly, from what I can see, they are just about the only ones who consistently post on the conservative board.  I guess others after a while get tired of the attack mode or just give up trying to debate logically and intelligently.  They say Im a lunatic and certifiable.  By reading their nasty posts, If anyone is certifiable, they are.  They say they are Christian.  Not like any Christian I have ever know.  The Christians I grew up with were nice, caring, accepting people.  Not judgmental hateful closed minded individuals.  I perused the conservative board this morning, just to see which republican they are admiring this morning or which democrat they are dogging and OMG, Im being posted about all over the board.  A few posted yesterday and right away they started asking were the posters gt!!  I cracked up laughing this morning.  No, I wasnt on their board posting.  I was in Mexico for the weekend and got back this morning..Gee, I generated this much attention and publicity by just posting on one little board in the vast expanse of the World Wide Web.  Amazing!  After reading their troubling posts, with all their attacks (one says she never attacks, yet one of her favorite words from what I have read is troll), I have decided not to read the conservative board any more.  I frankly dont need their negative energy..I feel sorry for all three of them.  They sound like they are angry bitter fools, clinging to a way and thought of life, so afraid frankly of anyone else with different and/or better ideas for this country.  Some people will never change and expand their consciousness as these three have proven to me.  This board I will continue to read and post from time to time, as it is a good open minded and accepting board and if the conservatives post an attack to me pertaining to this post, I will not read it nor respond. 
Great post
Thank you for this post..It was a good one.  :o)
Great post gt!
Clinton always did know how to speak in clear terms about the basics of a matter - and speak to all people in plain language. Mystifying how Dubya's supporters claim he's the plain-talking one when every time he opens his mouth he's twisting the topic completely out of recognition or else just babbling incoherently.
LOL! Great post!!

Great post.
Couldn't agree with you more. 
Great post, PK; thanks.

great post!!! thanks :)

Great post
Excellent points regarding health care, insurance, taxes. This is a conservative viewpoint. Less taxes brings in more revenue, but congress rarely gets it.

I agree that whoever is elected will not accomplish all stated promises/goals. That's always the case. So many believe that the president has power to do whatever he wants, but that is not the case and never has been.
Great Post...Thank You!
That makes it crystal clear!
You bet, ms! Great post. nm
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GREAT post! Thank you!

Great post! You just know that if
the tables were turned they wouldn't want their money taken either. I have found that the people who moan and complain the most about not having any money are the ones who are in debt to the hilt, have never been taught to save a cent, blame the CC companies for making them charge so much and then expect the gov't to help them out in some way. How about this novel scenario: Work hard, save some money, don't try to outdo the neighbors with material things and take some responsibility. Don't expect a mere man who spouts pretty words and promises and only wants your vote to take care of you. Quit blaming the republicans, Bush, outsourcing, Wall Street fat cats, etc, and look in the mirror. The gov't cannot solve all your problems, be self-sufficient for once.
Great post!

My favorite part is: 


IF I am wrong one day when I meet my Creator I will find out and I'll take my Creator's answer any day over anyone who is reading something from a book I don't believe in.


IMHO, that's how freedom of religion is supposed to work.  Ironically, sometimes the only way to guarantee alleged freedom of religion is to have freedom FROM it.


It is a very personal issue that is ultimately between you and your Creator, not someone who demands to push their religious views on  you.


I recently heard a pastor give a prayer before a McCain rally, where he actually "warned" GOD that God's "reputation" is on the line here, and that God had better make sure that McCain becomes President or else those who believe in different "Gods" will "win."


This guy was essentially telling God to get his act together!


Great post!
This is an intelligent, straightforward, unbiased post.  The MTs on this board should take note of it and learn from it.
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Great post. Thanks :)
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What a great post!
I agree 100% with you, geek.
I also compare him to JFK:

Obama is elegant, a great, charismatic speaker, he has a wonderful voice, he is magnetic, honest, diplomatic, seldom aggressive and much more....

His speach during his last campaign in Orlando/Florida was the best ever, it was just overwhelming.

Great post, GP.

And I couldn't agree more about pardons for the two border patrol agents.  Instead, Bush's pardons have largely consisted of crooks who were involved in the savings and loan scandal of the 1980s.  Given today's current banking crooks and the shambles of the global economy, that says a lot about Bush's "morals" that he would prefer to pardon banking crooks instead of two brave men who were merely doing their jobs.


I think one of the biggest -- if not THE biggest -- injustice in my memory is those two men even spending one minute in jail.


Great post - thanks.
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Great post!

You summed it up beautifully.  Thanks. 


Wow! Right on - great post
I agree so much and could not have said it any better. They are knighting him calling him the savior and he hasn't even taken office yet. Time will tell whether he is a good president or not.

Thank you for your post.
Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post! (sm)

I couldn't agree more.  For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?


And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)? 


After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East.  There are two sides to every story.  In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.


Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions. 


As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote. 


Great post, gee. (sm)
The more he fails, the worse it will be for us all.  I hope he succeeds. 
Great post! (sm)

The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling. 


I thought your post was excellent.  Thank you.


Great post! (sm)

The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling. 


I thought your post was excellent.  Thank you.


Thank you! Great post!
After Jindal read his rebuttal tonight, this article is even MORE insightful.
Great post...sm
My favorite? If you're greener than Gore, you're green enough.
Great post! nm...
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Thank you. Great post. (sm)

I didn't agree with it when Bush did it (with Obama's support via his Senate vote), and I don't agree with it now.


I believe NO company in this country should ever be "too big to fail," and I believe all of these banks should have been allowed to survive or die on their own merits.


Furthermore, the "transparency" that was promised, so far has been nonexistent, and I'm against this, as well.


Anyway, I thought you wrote an awesome post.  Thank you. 


:-) - Great post
I've been following your messages for some time and you always put great thought into what you say. You don't let your emotions take you away (like I do), and you always just tell it like it is. I like your "Dave Mann the Caveman" statement. Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth. Sometimes people would rather just sit in their homes and continue to be dumbed down and think everything is hunky-dory. I have a BIL who refuses to listen to any bad news because "I can't handle it". But there are us out there who want to know the truth. We will listen to everything no matter how "weird" it may sound. Because that "weird theory" may just be the truth. So thanks for posts. Always insightful and fun to read.