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An interesting read.

Posted By: Kendra on 2008-11-10
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This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
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interesting read
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/04/gb.01.html
Very interesting read indeed. Thanks for posting.

Very interesting and funny read. sm
Just goes to show that, as far as we humans are concerned, nothing ever really changes much. LOL
An interesting read from the Washington Post. sm

Draw your own conclusions on the state of the MT industry. Should we be worried? I would be as the gov't NEVER moves fast on anything unless it benefits them somehow. I had never heard of the HIMSS until I read the article.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/15/AR2009051503667.html?wpisrc=newsletter


interesting article, have read many similar these past few days...
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1231-23.htm
Interesting to read the promises Roosevelt made when SS was created.
It's just like farm subsidies and so many other things that government gets into and then makes a mess out of.

The promises, incidentally, were basically "our older citizens will not have to live in poverty". Now, SS is nothing more than institutionalized poverty for anyone who has nothing else.

And, incidentally, some of the rhetoric around the time SS was created dealt with the objections some had to the withholding by saying "This way, you won't have to put money into risky stocks because this is guaranteed". In other words, the implication was that you didn't have to provide otherwise for your retirement. The message was very powerful for a generation that had seen the Crash of 29 and the market's performance throughout the Great Depression. Stocks risky! Social Security safe!

I've forgotten the exact age, but I think when SS was formed the average life expectancy was 60 or less. In other words, it counted on most recipients dying off before they collected much if anything!

Well...you can add it up for yourself. We have people living much longer than SS had ever anticipated. We have a climate where you can't reduce benefits and you can't increase withholdings. And we have not allowed people (other than federal employees!) to opt out of SS so they could invest the withholdings in things that might have performed much better. (Notice how right this minute YOU are probably thinking about our own crash, but the fact is that SS has not even done that well).

I agree that it sounds good to introduce means-testing so wealthy people aren't receiving benefits, but on other grounds I can't go along with what would just be another example of treating some people differently than others.
Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.

I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.

So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
interesting, indeed nm
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This is interesting. SM
I did hear on the news the person that leaked this story is a former coworker of Roberts named Walter Smith who is somehow associated with "People For the American Way", an anti-Christian hate group.  It's my belief that this was meant to turn the Republicans against Roberts.  Well, big surprise, it didn't work.  They have to be shaking their heads.

Somewhat interesting.
AR, posting in a message line that someone is irrational is not the most innocent of maneuvers, so let's not waste too much time congratulating you on your imaginary moral superiority. I sometimes maneuver that way myself but I don't deceive myself into thinking it was anything but honest hostility and I don't act surprised when people respond in kind. So sorry if there was a misunderstanding just in case there was, I'm always willing to give a benefit of a doubt - once or twice. After that you get what you get.

That said and out of the way, what is it about the rest of Bennett's statement that you believe exonerates the controversial part? I did hear the whole thing and I don't know what you're referring to in that respect.
Yup, will be interesting,
Apparently there is a crucial email somewhere that has gone missing and there are some inconsistencies in the testimony. We'll see. I'm sure they'll try to explain it all away.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9630676/site/newsweek
interesting

From John Stossel's Myths, Lies and Straight Talk  (link at bottom)


MYTH #8 — Republicans Shrink the Government



Republicans always trot out the slogan that they oppose big government and want to shrink the federal payroll. President Bush tells us that big government is not the answer.


President Reagan told us, Our government is too big and it spends too much.


But for more than 75 years, no Republican administration has cut the size of government. Since George W. Bush became president, government spending has risen nearly 25 percent.


And the spending increase isn't just tied to the war on terrorism. The Office of Management and Budget says spending at the Environmental Protection Agency is up 12 percent; it's up 14 percent at the Agriculture Department, 30 percent at the Department of the Interior; 64 percent at the Department of Labor, and 70 percent at the Department of Education.


And the pork keeps pouring out. Even the Peanut Festival in Dothan, Ala., got $200,000.


Alabama congressman Terry Everett, a Republican, got them the money. He wouldn't talk to us about it, but the locals said they like getting your money. I think it's a waste of money, but if they're going to waste money, I guess it's better to waste it here than anywhere else, one man told me.


Economist Stephen Moore, a Republican, says, We fought a war against big government and you know what? Big government won.


He noted, You look at what's happened to the government in the 10 years since the Republicans took control of Congress, the government is twice as big.


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123606


Yes, I saw that too, PK. It will be interesting, no?

This is interesting...sm

I heard this a few days ago, but since everyone only pays attention to articles in mainstream papers and TV news, thought I would post it. Could explain why Bush is acting like a brat.  The pressure coming from the families, the public, and the truth movements is getting intense. 


Apparently, CIA officers are buying legal insurance to cover the cost of their defense should they be indicted by a federal grand jury for their roles in 9/11. They are worried that the results of an internal CIA investigation into some CIA agents’ roles in 9/11 may soon become public and the public outcry would immediately lead to their arrest for murder and conspiracy among other charges.


CIA officers who are charged with something that was done in the line of duty, i.e., for something that is constitutional and legal; are defended by the largest law firm in the world; the U.S. Justice Department. However, for illegal and unconstitutional charges they are on their own. That is why this private legal insurance has suddenly become so attractive to some employees of the CIA; they know that they will not be defended by the Justice Department because what they did was so illegal and reprehensible. That is why they are busy buying private legal insurance. For a well-researched, excellent article found in the mainstream media see the Washington Post for R. Jeffrey Smith’s story titled, “CIA Officers Buy Legal Insurance”


 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001286.html?nav=hcmodule


Interesting

OKay, so based on your analogy.....if someone trespasses on my land with intent to do me harm and I order them off my property and remind them that it is illegal to harm me or to trespass......you imply that I am NOT allowed to mention what the law states and that it is illegal for them to harm me UNLESS I am a law enforcement officer?


Very interesting view of the world you have. 


You never stated a time frame for cons ordering liberals off the board, ....you stated it was never done and that suggests an indefinite period of time.  Once again, pretty shoddy logic.


Interesting
Guess I shouldn't assume we all learned the same things!! We were always taught that Job was most probably performed as a play and was a teaching piece, not the actual word of G-d.

It is interesting to hear what others have been taught, within the same faith, as well.
interesting that everyone behind him on TV
I don't get that.....why is everyone behind him, around him, in every speech/TV appearance....white?  I see nearly no black people around him EVER....this is what I do not understand. 
Very interesting!
Isn't disclosure is a beautiful thing?  and this could be the beginning of the fall for the Bush administration.  Gratifying that people are beginning to speak out about the incompetent Iraqi policy that has been implemented.  However, this film seems to be chronical just a few months of 2003 and wonder why that is. The review from the New York Times was also very interesting.  I encourage anyone to read it.  Doesn't look like it's going to hit too many theaters, so it looks like I will be buying it and loaning it out!
Yep...some of that is very interesting....
I would venture a guess that part of the reason poverty has "gone up" is that social programs run amok are starting to erase the middle class, and those who used to be in the "middle class" are now in the "poverty" class...as entitlements extend higher and higher up the income ladder and the "poverty" threshold right along with it. That is why they quote a lot of ballpark statistics and none of the specifics.

I would also venture a guess that as teen births have gone down, teen abortions have gone up.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the broad overview comment...but what they never tell you is, as Paul Harvey would put it..."the rest of the story."

There are usually mitigating factors that go into any statistic. I am not a big fan of ballpark statistics....as you can see.

:-) Have a great day, piglet!
I did. Very interesting!

This was actually the first debate I watched this year.  I wanted to watch the others but just missed them somehow.  I will definitely be watching them from now on!  I found it so interesting, and it really gave me more hope about our country's future.  I just loved hearing so many great ideas for the future of America (from all of the candidates).  I have been very discouraged over the last 7 years.  Things just keep getting worse and worse and worse.  I cannot wait to have a strong, intelligent leader running this country who can help heal our very injured nation!


I was most impressed with Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton.  I don't know if Richardson has what it takes, but I loved what he had to say about education being the most important thing (I agree!) and just how he presented himself and his ideas in general.  Biden seems to have the experience behind him and a good solid head on his shoulders, and I really appreciated his ability to get right to the point instead of dancing around aimlessly.


Obama may not have had the strongest night (and I was not happy about how he interrupted Hillary!), but he is my favorite candidate, so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt because I know where he stands on the issues more than I know any other candidate. He just needed to be much more quick and direct with some of his answers, but of course, I still think he's the man. :)  I do fully expect him to learn from his mistakes and completely wow me at the next debate.


Hillary is a very impressive politician.  I really find her to be extremely intelligent, extremely strong, and very likeable in general.  She would indeed be an incredibly strong leader for this country.  She is a great speaker.  Although people keep talking about how she is being attacked, I do agree with a lot of the critism she receives on her voting record and her alliances (best word I could think of) with major corporations.  That makes me a bit nervous because to me one of the biggest problems in America is that the corporations are using our politicians like their own personal puppets.  However, I am really impressed with her knowledge overall and how she plans to turn this country around, and obviously we would be at least 100 times better off having her in office than Bush and the current sorry excuse for an administration!  January of 2009 cannot come soon enough.


That's very interesting (sm)
I am also related to the Bush family and others on that list. I guess it's possible that I am related to Obama as well. I don't know if any of them are/were Muslim, but I am. I love geneaology!
Wow - quite interesting

Very interesting articles - and video clips.


Dick Morris was an advisor to the Bill Clinton administration.  He was also the campaign manager of Clinton's successful 96 re-election.  He knows the Clintons inside and out.  Very interesting reading (and watching).


http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/


 


Very interesting
I'm not a big fan of either candidate, but I definiately have noticed much more info on Obama than McCain this year. What I think is sad about the so-called "Big Media" is that they are supposed to be keeping us informed of what is going on with everything, but they seem to pick and choose what we need to hear. It seems you have to watch several different news programs to get the whole story on what's going on. Of course, if you go back in time, it's always been this way - even in the days of Thomas Jefferson running for President, where people would pay newspapers to print the stories they wanted the public to read. Presidential campaigns have never been pretty and some have been downright nasty- I don't see that changing any time soon, no matter who the favored son may be.
That is interesting ...

I'm not trying to bash your opinion just making an observation about how 2 people look at the same thing and see 2 different things.


You said you felt that Bush did a good job in keeping the country safe after 9/11, etc.  I look at the situation as Bush preying on our fears and using them to invade Iraq.  We did a fast hit on Afghan. which was needed, but then that was it.  Osama bin Laden is still at large (maybe dead for all we really know) and he was behind the whole incident.  But we have torn apart Iraq for what real reason?  Oil.  It can be sugar coated and denied, but we all know that is what it was.  It wasn't for any supposed WMD that he knew were not there.


I don't think our country can take more war, and that is what McCain has said he believes in (unless he has since changed that statement). 


I believe Bush has done more hurt than good for this country, our country.  BTW, I am an independent too and will be voting Democrat.


interesting

The paragraph above it (not included in chart) states Obama's plan benefits the lowest income brackets while JM's benefits the middle class (if you make $5 million or more per year- joke) or the upper class.  Go to the website and read the paragraph above the chart.


 


where was this from? interesting...
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It will be interesting to see......
if the Enq. is right again. They finally gained a few crumbs of credibility with the John Edwards issue..........if they can drag him through the dirt, then anyone is game!!!!
interesting....
I have seen 3 different versions of that video. I know they are different because the singing is different. This one is AWFUL!! But anyway, don't believe all those videos. They can be doctored just like anything else.
interesting how you...sm
how you make a personal attack, when I was just pointing out that you missed some discussion below, and that you're misinformed in part of your post.

Just because you say something often enough, doesn't make it come true.



And my skin is just lovely, thanks for asking.


Something interesting...had not seen this before...

Obama to Pakistan in 1981....


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C04%5C11%5Cstory_11-4-2008_pg7_32


 


Interesting.......

For those who haven’t yet seen it, here is the accompanying summary of a 2003 New York Times Article:


September 11, 2003


New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae


By STEPHEN LABATON


The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.


Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.


The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.


The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.


... Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.


‘’These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’’ said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘’The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.’’


Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
‘’I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,’’ Mr. Watt said


That's interesting because all I kept

So did he forget he already said that?


Also, he laughed in the background and wanted extra time to talk?  Does he need extra time to do everything?  At least Obama respected the fact that John McCain was talking and didn't laugh and smile with an evil grin.  He would gently say "you are wrong about that John" and that's pretty much it.  There was no smirk that I could see.


Senator Obama was very cordial, but I thought John McCain was egotistical and trying to quote people "of importance" as if that is going to make a difference. 


How many times do we need to hear the bracelet story?


Again, I repeat again, he has the same old Bush way of doing things, which is the same old way for the past 8 years.  


We need change and we need it for the middle class not the tycoons who are already wallowing in money one of them being John McCain and the others being all his croneys...


 


 


I saw that...quite interesting
I watched it this morning and just tried pulling it up for DH and its gone. Music rights my foot. Probably they didn't like the contents.
And just to keep it interesting and keep
He's changing it again. Needs his advisors to redo it all; he's changed his mind.

Need to keep up!!!
interesting.....
I never thought about that. I am for McCain but it never bothered me that Obama said that. I am white. I have to say the most beautiful children I have known were of mixed race. My cousin is married to a black woman we all adore. Their son is the light of all our lives. I will do my best to make sure he knows how much I love him no matter what "side" he ends up identifying with. All that matters his that he be happy and I will be happy. Thanks for sharing your experience on this!
Interesting s/m

Someone sent me the following link.  I know you die-hard Republicans will say Huffington Post is a Democrat thing.  I do not know as I don't usually get my information there.  Regardless, there is the printed exchange with Hannity (sp?, I don't get my news from him either).  It is absolutely brilliant.....NOT.  Since that is true, I know this because I heard the exchange myself from her own lipsticked mouth. 


This is certainly worthy of a read and I hope some of you will wise up and see that a McCain administration is not going to be good for this country as his first major job of picking a running mate shows us he is reckless and self-centered.  Palin, herself, in the oval office??  This is not scary, it is TERRIFYING!!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/the-palin-plunge-voters-s_n_135857.html


Interesting.........

When polls go up in Obama's favor, the stock market is taking a diving lower and lower in direct correlation with this.  And in direct correlation, those everyday folks like myself who are in the stock market and everyday people all over are taking their money out DIRECTLY in relation to Obama going up in the polls.  WHy?  Because they know he is going to be the death of their money.  These aren't the rich folks....everyday people.  He will raise taxes so high on what they make in the market, their 401K, their IRA, etc., that they will be left with nothing after he is through draining them dry, all to give to those he feels have been so left out. 


Obama is going to create nothing but chaos in the workforce.....Lower employee threshold.....lower family leave act.  Send employees to staffing agencies, automate, move jobs offshore.   Businesses will not be able to afford his garbage.  These are everyday businesses, not the bigshots on wall street.  These are the very people who employ you.....they will not be able to employ more, but they will have to let many go just in hopes of staying in business.  He will definitely do a hatchet job on this country.  Then you can wonder who will come in and take over. 


Anyone?


Interesting

“The bottom line is that Obama is not being honest about his tax and spending plans. It is impossible — impossible! — for him to finance his giveaways by taxing only those making $250,000 or more. He will have to raise taxes substantially on people making much, much less than that. If you think you are going to avoid a tax increase on Obama’s watch because you aren’t ‘rich,’ remember this: A government that arbitrarily picks $250,000 as a dividing line can, using the same purely political considerations, pick any number as a dividing line.” – New Hampshire Union Leader


 


interesting you would
use Hitler and not as a comparison to O.....

"Hitler started to rebuild his party and was secretly receiving subsidies from the German army in support of the Nazi party. He started using powerful propaganda that would eventually become known as The Big Lie. The theory behind the Big Lie was that the masses would believe a big lie more than they would belive a little lie, if they heard it often enough. Hitler bombarded the people with talk of peace, nonviolence and a strong unified Germany, while all along he was sytematically planning to attack Russia and purge Germany of all non-Arians."
Yes, and this is REALLY interesting: sm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_4GfAsKvGU

Alaska Women speaking out!!!!!
Interesting isn't it
Didn't you call me a racist. I certainly do not believe you are a racist--just find it interesting to see that it is now you being attacked as a racist for disagreeing with Obama. No worries, though--I really believe that neither of us are.
this is interesting -
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Vote_Vets_mailings_hit_McCain.html
interesting.
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Interesting, isn't it................sm
that we don't see Obama whipping out his own personal check book to send you and me a check?
Isn't that interesting....
I am not a Republican, am an independent, but the pile of manure I see is definitely not on the Republican side. Obama said I will give you ice cream and you are lining up. DOesn't matter where he gets the money or who has to suffer, you are lining up. So be it.
I think it's interesting
that when things go well during an administration, it's the current president that gets all the congratulation. But when things go bad (like they most likely will for the next four years) it's the past president's fault. Just food for thought.
Here's something else that's interesting
Just thought of this. The movie was made in 1993. I'm sure back then it was meant as comic relief, but it does make you wonder. Here's a line said by Dennis Leary who plays a character named Edgar Friendly. This was another line my husband and I just looked at each other weird. I'll copy and paste here so hope the formaatting comes out okay. Here's the line in the movie (it's the first couple lines that we thought were interesting, the rest of it was just funny)...

"You see, according to Cocteau's plan I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener".

It was very interesting...
I'm glad you posted that link. It explained it in a way that was easier to understand than how I'd heard it before.  Now I understand why there are so many new banks that have opened up in the last decade or so.....they don't have to have the deposits to make loans.  What a racket.  I wonder if the banker pays back the 'credit" amount to the government.  Probably not and that's why the country is going broke.  Thanks for posting it.