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At the rate things are going.......... sm

Posted By: m on 2008-12-12
In Reply to: What ever happened to - Just curious

I'm not sure if there is going to be any wealth to redistribute in this country before long.


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If you want a lower rate -- refinance it
If you're credit score is that good, you should have no problem securing a lower rate.  By the sounds of things, you've got it pretty well paid down.  Depending on the exact amount you owe, you could refinance it into a home equity loan, rather than a new mortgage, and end up only paying about $100 in closing costs.  Check with your current lender. 
Correct Marmann, and as MTs this will help our pay rate and jobs sm
If companies are rewarded for staying in the U.S., bye bye philipines and barbados and india for MT cheapo transcription. Hello USA hard working MTs finally making DECENT MONEY.
AND.... getting tax breaks.
Did everyone see the post below about the UK's gun ban and crime rate rising? sm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm


Use of gun-related crime increased 40% during the gun ban and smuggling of guns was rampant, along with people turning every possible object into a gun.  Not the answer obviously.


I get the single rate deducted from my pays (nm)
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I'd be happy if they just reduced everybody's mortgage rate to a fixed 3%. sm
Then everyone is still responsible for the debt they took on, yet they're still getting a break. It would free up a couple hundred bucks a month for me, which I could then use elsewhere to stimulate the economy. Fewer foreclosures, banks are still getting their money.
Stem cell research has no proven cure rate.
I remember years and years ago when animal experimentation was being protested.  I saw this fellow who was a soap opera actor.  He was crying and crying because they wanted to stop torturing animals to find cures.  His son had diabetes and he said they were THIS CLOSE to finding a cure.  that had to be at least 25 years ago.  Millions of animals have died and there is no cure for diabetes.  So when does it end? 
Abortion Rate Continues to Drop, at Lowest Level Since 1976

Abortion: Just the Data
With High-Court Debate Brewing, New Report Shows Procedure's Numbers Down


By Naseem Sowti
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 19, 2005; HE01


A new analysis of the most recent abortion data shows that the number of U.S. women having the procedure is continuing its decade-long drop and stands at its lowest level since 1976.


In the year 2002, about 1.29 million women in the U.S. had abortions. In 1990, that number was 1.61 million.


The data, collected by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit group that collects information from abortion providers and public sources, show that for every 1,000 pregnancies that did not result in miscarriage in 2002, there were 242 abortions. This figure was 245 in 2000 and 280 in 1990. The institute's mission is to protect reproductive choice, but its reports are considered accurate across the political spectrum.


With President Bush preparing to nominate at least one new Supreme Court justice whose presence on the high court could produce new rulings on abortion, the data are already being interpreted differently by abortion rights advocates and antiabortion activists. But scientists say it is difficult to determine why the number of abortions has been dropping.


"There are so many things feeding into" the decline, said Lawrence Finer, associate director of domestic research at Guttmacher. Possible factors, he said, include changes in contraceptive technologies and use, changing ideas about family size and abortion, and reduced access to abortion services. Pregnancy clinics and abstinence programs may also have contributed to the declines, he said.


Who Gets Abortions?


Women with unintended pregnancies are those most likely to get abortions. According to the Guttmacher report, 47 percent of unintended pregnancies are aborted. Teenagers, unmarried women, black and Hispanic women, and those with low incomes are more likely than the population as a whole to have unintended pregnancies.


The report shows that non-Hispanic white women get about 40 percent of all U.S. abortions, black women 32 percent and Hispanic women, who can be of any race, 20 percent. Women of other races account for the other 8 percent. Black and Hispanic women have higher rates of abortion than non-Hispanic whites, the report states.


Other facts about U.S. abortions from the Guttmacher report:


· Six in 10 women who had abortions in 2002 were mothers. "Despite the common belief, women who have abortions and those who have children are not two separate groups," said Finer.


· A quarter of abortions occur among unmarried women who live with a male partner, putting this group at elevated risk of unintended pregnancy and abortion.


· The majority -- 56 percent -- of women who terminate their pregnancies are in their twenties. Teenagers between 15 and 19 make up 19 percent of abortions, although this percentage has dropped substantially in recent years.


This drop may be due to use of longer-acting hormonal contraceptives and lower rates of sexual activity, said Joyce Abma, a social scientist at the National Center for Health Statistics at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


She added that there has been a decline in sexual activity reported by teenage males, which could be a contributing factor to lower pregnancy and abortion rates among teens.


· The incidence of abortion spans the economic spectrum, but low-income women are overrepresented among those having the procedure. Sixty percent of women who had abortions in 2000 had incomes of less than twice the poverty level --below $28,000 per year for a family of three, for example. This is in part because "low-income women have lower access to family planning services" such as contraception and counseling provided by health departments, independent clinics or Planned Parenthood, Finer said.


· Almost 90 percent of abortions are performed in the first trimester -- during the first 12 weeks after the first day of the woman's last menstrual period -- with most performed before nine weeks. Because of newer surgical and medical techniques, the proportion of abortions performed at six weeks or earlier has almost doubled in the past decade.


Less than 1 percent of abortions are done after 24 weeks.


· The number of abortion providers declined by 11 percent between 1996 and 2000, to 1,800. In 2000, one-third of women aged 15 to 44 lived in a county that lacked an abortion provider.


About the Data


There are two main sources of national data on abortion: the Guttmacher Institute and the CDC. While both are regarded as dependable by major groups on both sides of the abortion issue, their numbers are different, and less precise than some other health statistics.


Not all states require reporting of abortions. The District, Maryland, New Hampshire and New Jersey do not mandate abortion reporting. California does not collect abortion data at all. Alaska and New Hampshire have not released statistics since 1998. This affects CDC's data, which is assembled every year from reports received from state health departments.


Due to differing reporting requirements and data-gathering procedures, abortion information for the District, Maryland and Virginia does not permit meaningful comparisons.


Guttmacher produces its reports by contacting abortion providers nationwide; its reports are considered more comprehensive than the CDC's. But the institute publishes the data only every four or five years. Neither group has published data for years beyond 2002.


Despite the inconsistencies of methods, the trends reported by CDC and Guttmacher correspond closely to each other. ·


Resources


For the complete Guttmacher report, visit http://www.agi-usa.org/sections/abortion.html , click on "An Overview of Abortions in the U.S."


For the CDC's complete report, visit http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/indss_2004.html , and click on "Abortion Surveillance -- United States 2001.


Or visit http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_23.pdf to download "Estimated Pregnancy Rates for the United States -- 1990-2000: An Update").


© 2005 The Washington Post Company


Just look at statistics on infant mortality rate for mothers without prenatal care - nm
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typo - meant cite things as hoax, not "site" things
Just thought I'd correct that before I get pummeled by the people who want to believe snopes is a truthful organization.
Mississippi, A Hotbed of Abstinence Education, Now Boasts Highest Teen Pregnancy Rate
The Centers for Disease Control released a new report today that found that Mississippi “now has the nation’s highest teen pregnancy rate, displacing Texas and New Mexico for that lamentable title.” The report found that in 2006, the Mississippi teen pregnancy rate was over 60 percent higher than the national average and increased 13 percent since the year before.
While the new report does not explain why the state’s teen pregnancy rate is increasing, one reason may be the poor quality of its sex ed programs. As the Sexuality Information and Education Center explains, Mississippi focuses heavily on abstinence education and teachers are prohibited from demonstrating how to use contraceptives:
Mississippi schools are not required to teach sexuality education or sexually transmitted disease (STD)/HIV education. If schools choose to teach either or both forms of education, they must stress abstinence-until-marriage, including “the likely negative psychological and physical effects of not abstaining.” […]
If the school board authorizes the teaching of contraception, state law dictates that the failure rates and risks of each contraceptive method must be included and “in no case shall the instruction or program include any demonstration of how condoms or other contraceptives are applied.
A reporter for ABC News’s Jackson, MS affiliate explained, “The Mississippi Department of Human Services says abstinence is the only birth control that is 100 percent effective. And that’s the only message teens need to hear.” Unfortunately, numerous studies show that abstinence-only education is not effective. As one study found:
Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence and are significantly less likely to use condoms and other forms of birth control when they do, according to a study released today.
Further, a review by the House Oversight Committee found that “80% of the abstinence-only curricula…contain false, misleading, or distorted information about reproductive health.”
Pregnant teens in Mississippi face few options. Access to facilities that provide abortions in that state is extremely limited. Indeed, because of an unusually effective anti-choice campaign in the legislature, only a single abortion clinic remains open in the state.

UpdateThe report also found that the teen pregnancy rate is rising fastest in Alaska, where Gov. Sarah Palin (R) is a strong proponent of abstinence-only sex ed.

Oh I can always tell when things are going your way
the diatribes ensue.
How do you get away with saying things like that exactly?

Two things:

1:  His approval rating as I write this has now decreased to 29%.  (However, by the time you read this, it may be even lower yet.  He is most definitely *a work in progress,* and the number of Americans who are waking up and smelling the proverbial coffee is increasing at a rapid rate.


2.  The fact that the government has been tracking phone calls of hundreds of millions of Americans may be nothing more than a political *parking ticket* compared to what we might discover next week.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/19380/1332


NSA Whistleblower: There's More, People Are Going To Be Shocked



Fri May 12, 2006 at 04:38:00 PM PDT


From the subscription-only Congress Daily, Chris Strohm reports that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice will make some on bombshell revelations on Capitol Hill next week:



A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as special access programs, has wanted to meet in a closed session with members of Congress and their staff since President Bush announced in December that he had secretly authorized the NSA to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens without a court order.  In an interview late Thursday, Tice said the Senate Armed Services Committee finally asked him to meet next week in a secure facility on Capitol Hill.


Tice was fired from the NSA last May. He said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden, who has been nominated to become director of the CIA. Tice said one of his co-workers personally informed Hayden that illegal and unconstitutional activity was occurring. [...] I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It's pretty hard to believe, Tice said. I hope that they¹ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn't exist right now. [...]


Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush  acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. It's an angle that you haven't heard about yet, he said.


what 2 things
In the last paragraph of your post Re: The Other Side of Mel Gibson, you state,
There's two things that booze does. You omitted the second thing. What, in your opinion, is the second thing that booze does?
I get it. You really do think all those things....
just in poor taste to post them. We are on the same page now.
I believe three things

1. My eyes watching Scooter's conviction..  2.  Valerie Plame, the person who knows her situation best.  3. Patrick Fitzgerald.  Now there's a guy with a high IQ that was not manufactured by professional fact fixers.


 


Two things....
Obama has already said he was going to put a windfall profits tax against the oil companies...money earned by one person...and divvy it out in $1000 whacks to people who did nothing to earn it. That is redistribution of wealth and that is Marxist. He already said he was going to do it. Government run health care is socialism.

Second question...how is he going to pay for all that stuff you have listed there? Tax oil companies more? What do you think that will do to gas prices?

Just wondering.
What are those things

Can someone explain what those things are outside the RNC.  I understand wanting to protest and you hold a sign up showing your viewpoint and maybe you yell out something you believe in, but I can't understant what those things are that are wearing masks, being dragged away, having to be hosed down by the police.


What a nonsense and insane world they must live in.  I'm all for freedom speech, but this is beyond my understanding. 


Also - don't they have jobs?  Do their employers allow them to take time off work to go do this and get arrested?  I want that job.  HA HA


A few things I would add...
This reply is picking up at the point after the main context regarding religion, which was addressed now under 2 separate posts.

The comments regarding basic human kindness. Is that a one-way street? What part of the Black Liberation Theology campaign which, if I recall corectly, you championed most vocally and most repetitively was not about race, politics or religion? If it's not two-way, it's a dead end. Perhaps leading by example would be a first step in the right direction.

With regard to welform, it is comforting to know that both candidates and both parties are on agreement and promote programs that tie welfare, jobs and training together. In terms of expecting welfare recipients to climb out of the "lower bracket," it is curious that you would hold them to an entirely different standard than you would the entire middle class, which again, if memory serves me, you claimed in a previous post in defense of tax cuts to the wealthy, fell into that same "lower bracket." To bankroll welfare that would raise the middle classes out of the "lower bracket" would most certainly appear socialist, and of course, we can't have any of that.

I am not aware of any candidate who seeks to "stifle" American ingenuity. Please enlighten us on that one. Are you referring to tax increases on individual incomes in excess of $250,000 or the proposals that would remove tax loopholes for large corporations? I am confused as to how that would "stifle" them. Our candidates seem to be in agreement on the need for government accountability and fiscal responsibility. Not soo sure how McCain proposes to go about it, but O has outlined his fiscal policies nicely here http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/ and has detailed him in his Blueprint for Change here http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf.

That unity Americans supposedly shared in the aftermath of 9/11 is what some people would characterize as shellshock after an act of war on our own soil. Seems that the present administrations's response to that attack over these past 8 years is exactly why the nation is so divided now. That shared experience is not something that can be taken back. One thing is for sure. The politics of fear that worked so well for them is not really working that well anymore, so there is no "going back;" there is only going forward from here.

Not quite sure what the prayer statement is trying to say, especially in the context of discrimination (?) against Christians. God is on the currency, but Jesus is not. If you are referring to prayer in school or any other public gathering, I'm afraid that could get pretty messy. Nothing against prayer or praying, but this being a country where all are free to practice their religion, then public places would need to have a prayer room and rug to accommodate the Moslem practice of call to prayer, meditation rooms for the Eastern faiths and the like. In assemblies led by Christian prayer, it probably would need to be followed by a prayers or readings from The Torah, The Holy Kitab, The Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, The Avesta, The Confucian Analects, The Doctrin of the Mean, The Holy Mencius, The Great Learning, The Holy Quran, The Hadith, The Holy Akaranja Sutra, The Holy Kalpa Sutra, The Holy Kojiki, The Holy Nihongi, The Holy Tao Te Ching, The Holy Chuang Tzu, The 4 Vedas, The Upanishads, the 18 Puranas, the Bhagavid Gita…see what I mean? Kinda messy. There is a reason our forefathers had the insight to provide for the PRIVATE practice of religion.

On the abortion issue. This is easy. All people do have their say. That's why we have choice. Free to exercise the choice to have or NOT to have an abortion. To remove choice is anything but free. So you want quality, affordable, portable health care for all, lower costs, etc. Here's a plan you might consider. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

Thank you for saying things that I have
been trying to say. Thank you for standing up for Jesus. Thank you for not being afraid to say how you feel. I, too, am a born-again believer and I am terribly burdened by what I have read on this board. I am shocked that so many of my co-workers do not believe in prayer, or even in God. I guess this is something I have always just taken for granted. Once again, thank you for your courage.

One thing we can do, as believers, we can pray for wisdom in making our decisions who we will vote for in this election. Also, whoever is elected, we can lift them up daily for strength and wisdom and God's will in the decisions they make for our great country!
If you don't like things the way they are NOW, and you
most definitely that you were intellectually challenged.
You have taken things too far!

You do not have the right to call someone ignorant just because they interpret those quotes as racist.  If you don't think they are racist, fine.....after all we are all entitled to our own opinions.  If you can't handle people having a different opinion than your own, don't bother reading or posting on the board.  Calling people names does not prove your point. 


Obviously there are other people on the board other than the original poster who feel those quotes were racist.  I have always thought Obama and his wife were racist and these quotes are just more proof of that.


no one is looking things up and

posting for discussion.  they are recycling the old attacks about flag pins and trying to provoke silly discussions to distract from the precipitous plunge of the McClain campaign in the face of the wall street debacle.


 


It is the WAY you said things
you were very condescending. That doesn't get anyone anywhere!

I am not judging you but the Bible also tells us to basically "check one another" when need be. And I am checking you. Chill out and have a little compassion. Be on fire for Jesus, by all means, but be SMART about it!


There are some things, whether Dem or Rep, that
Christians have to be intolerant of.  We absolutely ARE NOT supposed to hate anyone and we are instructed to love our neighbors as ourselves.  That doesn't mean we have to tolerate things that go against our beliefs; we just have to be kind no matter how we feel about a situation. 
Too bad you don't know how to put things in
@
so many of these things can be

turned around and said about Obama.  The lack of his experience.  He has never run anything.  He has consistetly voted present instead of making an executive decision of yes or no.  He has only been in the senate for 4 years and has spent more money on pork and earmarks in those 4 years than McCain has his whole political career.  Palin got rid of the personal jet the prior governor had.  She has made her state a success and she has given money back to her constituents.  She has the highest approval rating as governor.  You care about the money the RNC spent of Palin's clothes which will be given to charity and you don't comment about the millions and millions of dollars that Obama has spent during his campaign....not to mention the 2 million dollar shindig they are planning in Chicago during election...who is paying for that?  you bring up troopergate with Palin and yet you refuse to see Obama on committees with terrorists who gave money to radical groups.  All the money that Obama raised for educational purposes didn't improve the schools in his district at all.  The housing that was in his area for community organizer....especially the ones owned by Rezko were so bad that people had no heat during the Chicago winters.  The same Rezko who he had sketchy dealings with in order to buy his mansion for way less than what it is worth.  Obama the same man who attended church for 20 years where  the preacher did nothing but preach about how America sucks because it was run by whitey and blacks should take over.  Not to forget his cousin in Kenya who Obama campaigned for and gave money to and when his cousin lost the election....his followers rioted and killed innocent people.  Obama campaigned for him when he visited kenya.  What has Obama run successfully?  The housing in his district were not up to snuff.  The school he pledged to help with the committee he was on did not improve.  Are you not seeing a pattern here.


So go spout your BS somewhere else because this person, who has done her research, isn't listening.  Obama has many more sketchy things in his life than Palin and he has just as little experience.....and he is running for president....NOT VP. 


There are many things about
Barrack Obama that scare me.  His far left ideas are just a tip of the iceberg here.  The facts that he will basically force companies to unionize by getting rid of a secret ballot will lead to corruption.  It will lead to more control by the democrats.  With a democrat controlled congress with a democrat in the White House.....who are we to stop anything?  Obama will have total control and I literally shake at the idea of having a man like Obama....with his radical ideas and his associations.....with power over our country.  I never thought the USA could be threatened by a dictator........but I truly fear we are heading in that direction and that thought terrifies me.
he says a lot of things -
x
Some things
he might not have specifically said because he wasn't thinking of the Americans who would be sitting around splitting hairs (wild hairs I might add). RE: "And only recently has he started saying workers."


I don't believe that she said these things
Until it can actually be substantiated, rather than just hearsay, I do not believe that Palin did not know that Africa is a continent. That is ridiculous. She is not a stupid woman, regardless of whether or not you like her. Remember--Obama said something about 57 states, but I don't believe that he doesn't know how many states there are, either.
EMR and VR are two different things.
EMR just refers to being able to access medical records via computer rather than having to have the paper chart in front of you. That part will not affect our work load as the reports still need to be done & entered on the computer system.

VR is a completely different nightmare than endangers patients almost as much as offshoring IMO.
Things that don't add up...(sm)

To me there are 2 glaring problems with this (besides the fact that she can't care for that many children)


1.  She is supposed to be on workers comp for her back, but she can carry a pregnancy of octuplets?  I would think workers comp would be investigating that.  It's one thing to have a bad back and accidentally get pregnant, but this was intentional.


2.  I think she's a certifiable nut, but isn't she majoring in psychology? 


There are many things that

factor into the car industry crisis.  First off, unions, in my opinion, are the bane of the car industry.  States that force unionization show a lower number of production, lower number of job growth, etc.  The states that do not force unions have a higher rating in production and job growth.  When the economy was booming, the unions didn't help but they weren't running business into the ground.  Now that the economy sucks....the unions are sucking the life out of the car industry. 


Next we have Americans buying foreign cars.  Not only does that send money to other countries but it is hurting American auto makers, etc.


Then you have the legacy costs that, just like the unions, were okay during a good economy but are now sucking the life out of the car industry.  To allow people to retire at 50 and then receive that kind of pension is insane.  They shouldn't be letting people retire that early....unless their health doesn't allow them to work.


Then you have the CEOs making huge amounts of money and other higher ups who are making millions to do absolutely nothing.


Now our economy stinks and people can't afford to buy cars and the ones who can are too afraid because the car industry is struggling as well as they are also scared of their own finances if this gets worse. 


All in all....we have succesfully killed the car industry.  Dealerships are closing doors like crazy.  Dealerships go a whole day with no traffic on the lot.  People are losing jobs left and right.  Factories are closing.  People are forced to take a week off each month, etc.  It is truly scary and we have greed to thank for this whole thing.  Greed in government.....greed in the unions.......and greed in CEOs, etc.


Saying it and doing it are 2 different things
It's all fine and dandy to act like the "tough guy" but at some point someone who is supposed to be "sane" at the moment they are committing the crime and thinking they are doing justice by a vigil ante (sp?) attitude is no better than the original person who committed the crime. There are very sick people in this world. If they commit a crime they should be put behind bars and get the counseling they need. But to take matters in your own hands and dowse someone in a chemical and set them on fire. That chemical then goes down the throat. The fires then goes down their throat. Its just awful awful awful. I don't care how much anguish, anger, frustration you feel. She had no right to do that and she is no better than he was. I stick by my statement and I hope the family of the rapist sue this lady. What she did was unspeakable.
There are many other things

that will have to change and happen before I give much praise to the current administration.  As for Nasdaq going up....that is great but we will all have to wait and see if it stays up.


No matter what rhetoric you preach or how much kool-aid you drink, the fact of the matter is common sense.....you can't spend and borrow your way out of debt.  The current administration is making a huge mistake spending all of this money


Obama says he wants better education and yet he does away with vouchers and the teachers union does nothing but keep bad teachers employed.  You cannot let the teachers union control things and make education better at the same time....it just won't happen.  If we held teachers accountable and fired them for poor performance, the teacher's union would scream and shout. 


He wants national healthcare.  Who wants the government to decide how long people live and whether or not they should receive treatment or not?  Who wants government to tell you what procedures you can have done and when you can have them no matter how urgent your need is? 


He wants bigger government.  I don't want everything controlled by government.  That gives them too much power and they obviously are too greedy to handle such empowerment wisely for the sake of the American people. 


So what if the market is up.....whooptee do.  There are still so many things that Obama wants to do that I cannot agree with.  There are still too many crooked things going on in Washington with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Tim Geithner, Pelosi, etc. 


For once I want a president and politicians to actually do things that are best for the American people.  Not what is best for the executives who gave them money for their campaign but the American people who work hard everyday and are struggling right now.  I'm tired of having a president in office who is being pulled by puppet strings. 


Those car fax things are only
accurate if people report their accidents to their insurance.  If they take it home or to someone they know and have it fixed without turning it into insurance....that won't show up on a carfax report.  Just a tip.
Two things.

1.  I believe she meant that Glenn Beck had a heart for the soldiers.   Which he does. 


2.  There are a whole lot of us in the deep end with her.  And we like it here.   


 


 


Two things: 1. No he's not hot.
2.  Barf, barf. 
Two things: 1. No he's not hot.
2.  Barf, barf. 
Three things.....(sm)

1.  I understand your insecurity about having a president who can't think for himself as we've just been through 8 years of that.  However, this one actually has a mind of his own.  Imagine that.  Now that's what really scares you.  He thinks for himself and isn't swayed by the ridiculous temper tantrums of the party of NO.


2.  You are correct in saying that other countries didn't know what Bush would do next, he!!, WE didn't know what Bush would do next.  Kind of like the way we look at North Korea and Iran  --- we call them rogue nations, but when we do it, it's supposed to be the right thing to do?  Get real.


3.  Yes, I laugh at what you guys try to pass off as facts because the rationale for most of the statements on this board (which are usually just repeats from Fixed Noise) are absolutely comical.  Heads up...here comes Beck with a gas can!  I wonder how long it will take before they put him in a padded cell?


There are other things, too, though.
They already to treat the wealthy differently. There is a point of income beyond which they cap and stop taking out social security. Eliminating that cap would go a long way to equalizing the playing field. And I see nothing wrong with there being a means test to be eligible for social security. I can't get food stamps or other government aid because I make $50 too much a month to be eligible, yet I am still paying into. Why should those that can afford it be denied?

And there have been isolated pockets of people who were able to opt out of social security. But when you recall what happened to those who entrusted Enron with their pension funds, and people who now have seen their 401Ks invested in mutual funds dwindle away to next to nothing, social security still serves as a barrier between the effects of today's robber barons and economic instability.
There are other things, too, though.
They already to treat the wealthy differently. There is a point of income beyond which they cap and stop taking out social security. Eliminating that cap would go a long way to equalizing the playing field. And I see nothing wrong with there being a means test to be eligible for social security. I can't get food stamps or other government aid because I make $50 too much a month to be eligible, yet I am still paying into. Why should those that can afford it be denied?

And there have been isolated pockets of people who were able to opt out of social security. But when you recall what happened to those who entrusted Enron with their pension funds, and people who now have seen their 401Ks invested in mutual funds dwindle away to next to nothing, social security still serves as a barrier between the effects of today's robber barons and economic instability.
There are other things, too, though.
They already to treat the wealthy differently. There is a point of income beyond which they cap and stop taking out social security. Eliminating that cap would go a long way to equalizing the playing field. And I see nothing wrong with there being a means test to be eligible for social security. I can't get food stamps or other government aid because I make $50 too much a month to be eligible, yet I am still paying into. Why should those that can afford it be denied?

And there have been isolated pockets of people who were able to opt out of social security. But when you recall what happened to those who entrusted Enron with their pension funds, and people who now have seen their 401Ks invested in mutual funds dwindle away to next to nothing, social security still serves as a barrier between the effects of today's robber barons and economic instability.
Let's just keep things real. That is all I am saying. NM

Some things never change...

War Crimes Even Helen Keller Could See
By Mickey Z.

In a textbook example of whitewashing, if today's America knows Helen Keller (1880-1968) at all, it's the easy-to-digest image portrayed in the 1962 film, 'The Miracle Worker.' Brave deaf and blind girl 'overcomes' all obstacles to inspire everyone she meets. 'The Helen Keller with whom most people are familiar is a stereotypical sexless paragon who was able to overcome deaf-blindness and work tirelessly to promote charities and organizations associated with other blind and deaf-blind individuals,' writes Sally Rosenthal in Ragged Edge.

But, in 1909, Helen Keller became a socialist. Soon after, she emerged as a vocal supporter of the working class and traveled the nation to voice her opposition to war. 'How can our rulers claim they are fighting to make the world safe for democracy,' she asked, 'while here in the U.S. Negroes may be massacred and their property burned?' Of course, as a woman with disabilities, she was patronized by the same mainstream media that previously championed her as a heroine. The editors of the Brooklyn Eagle wrote: 'Her mistakes spring out of the manifest limitations of her development.'

Keller minced no words in her responses...one of which appeared in newspapers across America: 'So long as I confine my activities to social services and the blind, the newspapers compliment me extravagantly, calling me an 'arch-priest of the sightless' and 'wonder woman'. But when I discuss poverty and the industrial system under which we live that is a different matter.'

As the militaristic frenzy spread across America, Keller appeared at New York City's Carnegie Hall on January 5, 1916. 'I have a word to say to my good friends, the editors, and others who are moved to pity me,' she said. 'Some people are grieved because they imagine I am in the hands of unscrupulous persons who lead me astray and persuade me to espouse unpopular causes and make me the mouthpiece of their propaganda. Now, let it be understood once and for all that I do not want their pity; I would not change places with one of them. I know what I am talking about. My sources of information are as good and reliable as anybody else's. I have papers and magazines from England, France, Germany and Austria that I can read myself. Not all the editors I have met can do that. Quite a number of them have to take their French and German second hand. No, I will not disparage the editors. They are an overworked, misunderstood class. Let them remember, though, that if I cannot see the fire at the end of their cigarettes, neither can they thread a needle in the dark. All I ask, gentlemen, is a fair field and no favor. I have entered the fight against preparedness and against the economic system under which we live. It is to be a fight to the finish, and I ask no quarter.'

Keller's critique of the government propaganda campaign to stir up Americans to support U.S. intervention in the war remains more germane than ever. 'Every modern war has had its root in exploitation' Keller said. 'The Civil War was fought to decide whether the slaveholders of the South or the capitalists of the North should exploit the West. The Spanish-American War decided that the United States should exploit Cuba and the Philippines. The South African War decided that the British should exploit the diamond mines. The Russo-Japanese War decided that Japan should exploit Korea. The present war is to decide who shall exploit the Balkans, Turkey, Persia, Egypt, India, China, Africa. And we are whetting our sword to scare the victors into sharing the spoils with us. Now, the workers are not interested in the spoils; they will not get any of them anyway.'

She urged workers-the ones who do the fighting and dying-to strike at the heart of America's drive toward war. 'Strike against war, for without you no battles can be fought,' she declared. 'Strike against preparedness that means death and misery to millions of human beings. Be not dumb, obedient slaves in an army of destruction. Be heroes in an army of construction.'

Excerpted from the soon-to-be-released '50 American Revolutions You're Not Supposed to Know: Reclaiming American Patriotism.' 


I don't see that at all gt. It's amazing sometimes the things you say.
The whole first page of the C board is one long attack on MT.  One long constant attack. 
GT things everybody's scared of her

Not me.  My theory is that gt is a person who doesn't have any power over anyone and comes to this board to be some kind of faux dictator.  It's really pretty sad and she's almost single-handedly shut down any meaningful conversations with her hateful pukings.


I'm not scared by gt one bit.  I've figured her out.  She's really a very pitiful hate filled person who wouldn't have been allowed to stay on the board in the old format.


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This proves only 2 things.

First, that Scarborough can criticize Bush, as well as compliment him.  He can do both, unlike you.  If he sees something wrong, he has the courage to say it; however, he is still a conservative and he still supports Bush.  As I said before, he just doesn't *blindly* support him, and he has the ability to be objective.


The second thing it proves is the CON method of doing things is to silence and disparage those who have the audacity to exert their (so far) constitutionally protected right to freedom of speech.


Scarborough is a respectable man.  He loves America and he respects the Constitution.  Unlike your *God Bush,* who thinks the Constitution is only a *piece of paper.*  The fact that you so aggressively defend someone so obviously devoid of morals and ethics tells me way more than I want to know about you.  People like you give me the heebie-jeebies, and I'd just rather associate myself with your kind of people, so I won't be responding to you any more. 


You really do belong on the CON board, you know.  Your nastiness and constant harassment of people on this board is getting old, is incredibly distasteful and just might wind up being brought to the moderator's attention if it continues.


There's a few things no jiving with this guy
I mean, I'm sure his credentials are there, and I don't discredit him purely because he doesn't agree with Bush policies, but this one statement makes me very leery about his world view...

Our military is completely consumed, so were there a real threat - thankfully, there is no real threat to the U.S. in the world, but were there one, we couldn't confront it. Right now, that may not be a bad thing, because that keeps Bush from trying something with Iran or with Venezuela.

While may people may not think Iraq is/was a threat I don't think there are many people who don't think we have any real threats...unless you slept through 9/11.