Berlusconi is ready to take 3 Tunisians from Gitmo to Italy..nm

• The 4 guys let go from Gitmo to Bermuda - Backwards typist
  • I think an extended stay in paradise...(sm) - Just the big bad
    • Strange, they said they were treated wonderfully.... - you know something they don't? nm
  • Berlusconi is ready to take 3 Tunisians from Gitmo to Italy..nm - ()
  • Weren't they captured in Tora Bora? Innocent, I'm not so sure. - hmm
    • these 4 are innocent Gitmos.............sm - ()
      • Why weren't they returned to Afghan/Pak or China ? ..nm - hmm
        • They said they didn't like China.....that China would - be terrible...poor little Gitmo guys! nm
  • Did not hear about that, yet, thanks....nm - ()

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Does anyone know exactly what planet Bush is from?  He seems to be in his own little world.  It's times like this you wonder exactly how did such an idiot ever get elected.  LOL

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going down, but I really want Bush and Cheney to be tried for war crimes.  This is a dilemma for Obama - we have many, many issues to work on, but to allow the atrocities to go unpunished does not sit well with me.  Let's have some trials, Mr. Holter.

If it's closed, where will the terrorists go? Our regular jails that would not be able to handle them. Leave them free in our own country to terrorize? Home to their own country? Did you know that some countries do not want to accept them back?

Did you know that some of the terrorists that were freed and sent home were captured a second time trying to kill our troops?

Shall this country be subjected to suicide bombings because Gitmo is closed? I don't think so. I don't agree with prisoner torture BUT what do you think has been happening since WWII? It's okay for other countries to torture our servicemen and women, but not okay for us to do it?

It's a double standard.

How about this - we remove the terrorist/prisons from GITMO and move them to other prisons throughout the country.  Then send all the crooked politicians, bankers, and people who are receiving bail-outs and turning around and taking holiday's with the money and going to spa's, and not using the bail outs on what they are for, etc. - send them to GITMO. - just a suggestion.

are there because they were turned in by their own people or their names were given during interrogation.  Yes, there may be some who are innocent but aren't there also some people in prisons who were covicted and are innocent.  That happens.  This is war and in war....you can take no chances. 

Did we not put Japanese people into concentration camps during war?  Did we not drop a bomb on two Japanese cities and totally destroy them with the A-Bomb?  I don't recall administrations going back against previous administrations for those actions.  It was war......just like now.  This is war.  Terrorists have set off bombs at the WTC.  They blew a hole in the USS Cole.  They took down both WTC towers and hit the pentagon with one plane going down before making it to its destination, which was suspected to be the White House. They want to continue more attacks on us and you are worried about waterboarding a prisoner who might potentially know information that could save American lives.  You would much rather let them go or not "torture" them and not find out any new intelligence to save Americans and stop potential attacks?

Didn't we ridicule Bush for not seeing 9/11 coming?  There were warnings.  We were up his butt for not putting the intelligence together and thwarting the attacks on that day.  So when he turned around and decided to interrogate prisoners for more information, now you hate him for doing that too.  You can't have it both ways people.  Terrorists want us dead and they will continue to plot and execute their attacks on us.  Will it not sink in until, God forbid, you or someone you love is killed by them?  They have no compassion for us.  I can guarantee you that they are laughing at us for our soft interrogation process.  They think we are weak and now we have given them more fuel to get more people to join their cause by making CIA memos public as well as pictures.  Obama has made our military and all Americans more unsafe with his stupid stunt.

If he continues to pursue this witch hunt, I hope to God it nails all the dems who didn't seem to have a problem with this in the past either and that includes Pelosi.  If they are going to take down Bush and Cheney, they best nail the dems who didn't say anything and knew about it.  If they are going down, they all better go down.  I have lost any respect I had for Obama when he made this public.  We are at war and these childish blame games are going to get more Americans killed.  Shame on him!   

are there because they were turned in by their own people or their names were given during interrogation.  Yes, there may be some who are innocent but aren't there also some people in prisons who were covicted and are innocent.  That happens.  This is war and in war....you can take no chances. 

Did we not put Japanese people into concentration camps during war?  Did we not drop a bomb on two Japanese cities and totally destroy them with the A-Bomb?  I don't recall administrations going back against previous administrations for those actions.  It was war......just like now.  This is war.  Terrorists have set off bombs at the WTC.  They blew a hole in the USS Cole.  They took down both WTC towers and hit the pentagon with one plane going down before making it to its destination, which was suspected to be the White House. They want to continue more attacks on us and you are worried about waterboarding a prisoner who might potentially know information that could save American lives.  You would much rather let them go or not "torture" them and not find out any new intelligence to save Americans and stop potential attacks?

Didn't we ridicule Bush for not seeing 9/11 coming?  There were warnings.  We were up his butt for not putting the intelligence together and thwarting the attacks on that day.  So when he turned around and decided to interrogate prisoners for more information, now you hate him for doing that too.  You can't have it both ways people.  Terrorists want us dead and they will continue to plot and execute their attacks on us.  Will it not sink in until, God forbid, you or someone you love is killed by them?  They have no compassion for us.  I can guarantee you that they are laughing at us for our soft interrogation process.  They think we are weak and now we have given them more fuel to get more people to join their cause by making CIA memos public as well as pictures.  Obama has made our military and all Americans more unsafe with his stupid stunt.

If he continues to pursue this witch hunt, I hope to God it nails all the dems who didn't seem to have a problem with this in the past either and that includes Pelosi.  If they are going to take down Bush and Cheney, they best nail the dems who didn't say anything and knew about it.  If they are going down, they all better go down.  I have lost any respect I had for Obama when he made this public.  We are at war and these childish blame games are going to get more Americans killed.  Shame on him!   

As a purely political move, Candidate Obama - who knew nothing about the real problems - promised to close Gitmo and signed that order on his first day in office. 

1.  Why close Gitmo?  The main reason given is that Gitmo is a "rallying cry" for jihadists.  I have not seen the slightest shred of evidence offered to support this mantra, which has become the poster child for the truism that if you repeat something often enough people will believe it.

2.  Even if true, Obama does not explain why "The Shoe" (SHU = secure housing unit) in Michigan, for example, wll not simply become the new rallying cry, especially given that the Gitmo prisoners will find that conditions in a SHU are much more harsh than they had in Gitmo, which has been called "Club Fed". 

3.  The point is made that no one has escaped from "The Shoe".  So what?  No one has escaped from Gitmo either.

4.  What Obama knows (because experts have told him) is that escaping is not the issue anyway.  A prison on the American mainland  is much more subject to an attack from the outside - such as an airplane being flown into it (some might remember the little incident on 9/11?) - than is the case with Gitmo.  If the attack kills some of the terrorists housed there, they will simply be martyrs.  The purpose of the attack would not be to break them out, but to destroy the prison and make a statement to the world about terrorist capabilities.

5.  The town or city where the SHU is located will also make a lovely target for terrorists.   Or, perhaps they'll murder some of the guards who live in the town. They do not have this capability with Gitmo.

There is no absolutely level on which closing Gitmo makes even the slightest bit of sense and most Americans know this. What this amounts to is nothing more or less than subjugating national security for purposes of shameful, irresponsible political grandstanding. 

Impeach Obama now.

I was talking with a friend who is a field consultant in the oil industry.  He said that it is very possible that OPEC has plans to terminate the US contract on or about March 14 in which the US gets the lion's share of OPEC oil.  He said what will happen is that instead of the US getting the largest supply of foreign oil, that oil will now be distributed to European countries who have gotten only the "leftovers" in the past and will now leave the US to get the "leftovers."  This, combined with decreased domestic drilling, will create higher oil and gas prices in the US. 

He has been out of work since long before Christmas and is now looking at the very real possibility of having to relocate his family to Saudi in order to make a living.  He and his wife are not wanting to take this route, but with the jobs drying up here, it may be his only alternative if he wishes to remain in the oil industry which is the only work he has ever done. 

There is a pipe yard located about 30 miles from here in which there are a lot of drilling towers just sitting on the yard, and that is only one of many such yards in the area. 

So get ready to either pay through the nose for gas or buy a horse and buggy!

I was talking with a friend who is a field consultant in the oil industry.  He said that it is very possible that OPEC has plans to terminate the US contract on or about March 14 in which the US gets the lion's share of OPEC oil.  He said what will happen is that instead of the US getting the largest supply of foreign oil, that oil will now be distributed to European countries who have gotten only the "leftovers" in the past and will now leave the US to get the "leftovers."  This, combined with decreased domestic drilling, will create higher oil and gas prices in the US. 

He has been out of work since long before Christmas and is now looking at the very real possibility of having to relocate his family to Saudi in order to make a living.  He and his wife are not wanting to take this route, but with the jobs drying up here, it may be his only alternative if he wishes to remain in the oil industry which is the only work he has ever done. 

There is a pipe yard located about 30 miles from here in which there are a lot of drilling towers just sitting on the yard, and that is only one of many such yards in the area. 

So get ready to either pay through the nose for gas or buy a horse and buggy!

I think I posted an article on this further down on the page.

The anti-missle defense in Hawaii is ready with missles that can take out NK's missles without a problem. Anyhow, they don't believe NK has enough fire power to make it to Hawaii. Hawaii is 4500 miles away, while the missle is only supposed to be good for 4000 miles.

Now, Alaska is a different story, but they are also on alert. 

I trust our miliary. I think our country will be safe. S. Korea, though, is another story if he sets off a nuclear warhead like he threatened. That nut keeps telling his people that WE are threatening nuclear war with THEM and have built up the nuclear war defenses on the DMZ.

This is probably ONE of the tests Biden talked about. The other one is Iran.

Boy, they have a really nice place complete with swimming pool. They are wearing Addidas sneakers, too.

They said they were never terrorists and that China was the worse interrogaters, not the U.S. They laughed when asked if they ever met Bin Laden.

They guys are really happy now that they are free and living in paradise.

Wallace's bash-the-media exercise has its merits as a campaign tactic. It certainly rallies the base. But the base won't lift McCain to 50% in November. More importantly, in her smug dismissal of the media's role in asking questions of the candidates, Wallace was really showing contempt not for reporters, but for voters.

they are usually wrong.  Sorry.

Obama told George Stephanopoulos at ABC News:

"We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution."

I'm sorry, but those being held at Gitmo are not citizens of the United States; therefore, are not entitled to any protection under the Constitution.  Why not say 'abide by the Geneva Convention'?  Even then, how many of our POWs were treated as outlined in the Geneva Convention?  Let's not forget, this is a war and these terrorists are POWs.  President Bush sought to protect the citizens of this country whatever the cost.  After the awful events of 9/11, it was his priority.  The world needs to know if you target the U.S. there are consequences. 

And I want to know where they are going to put these 250 or so terrorists?  I live 50 miles from Fort Leavenworth and that's a little too close for comfort for me.  I assume some will be released to return to their country where, of course, they will plot their next terrorist attack.  While others will be housed in federal facilities like Leavenworth and then what?  We sit them down for tea and crumpets and ask them nicely if they plan on blowing anything else up here in America? 

but he rejected every proposal for closing it and DID nothing about it, claiming it would be too difficult.  A president saying that something is too difficult isn't exactly reassuring BTW.  Meanwhile, he made use of it, which completely contradicted his supposed intentions of closing it.  You also really can't complain about other countries not wanting to take prisoners into their countries when we weren't willing to take them either, and they are OUR prisoners.  I think actions speak louder than words.