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Bill Maher Takes On Bill O'Reilly
BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, political humorist Bill Maher (search), he has a new book out called "New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer." Of course, Mr. Maher is about as polite as I am and as timid as Dracula. He joins us now from Los Angeles.
You know, you've had some celebrities on your HBO show, "Real Time," which begins again on Friday, talking about policy and war on terror and stuff like that. I get the feeling they don't know very much, but you do. So I'd like to make Bill Maher, right now, the terror czar. Bill Maher, the terror czar. Could be a series.
How would you fight this War on Terror? How would you fight it?
BILL MAHER, HOST, HBO'S "REAL TIME": I think the first and most important thing is to get the politics out of the War on Terror. You know, maybe I'm a cockeyed optimist, Bill, maybe I'm naive, but I thought that 9/11 was such a jarring event that nobody would dare return to business as usual on that one subject after that.
But of course, we found out that nothing could be further from the truth. And your president, my president too, but the one you voted for...
O'REILLY: You don't know that. Were you looking over my shoulder there? I could have voted for Nader. I could have voted for Kerry, but Kerry wouldn't come on the program, so I wouldn't vote. But I could have gone for Ralph. Ralph's a friend of mine.
MAHER: Yes. Anyway, I said the guy you voted for, President Bush, you know, how come this guy, who was supposed to be such a kick-and-take- names kind of guy, how come he has not been able to get the politics out of this?
You know, as a guy who's been accused of treason, I'll tell you what real treason is: Treason is when legislators vote against homeland security measures because it goes against the wishes of their political or financial backers. Treason is the fact that, as a terrorist, you could still buy a gun in this country because the NRA (search) lobby is so strong.
O'REILLY: OK. But you're getting into the political, and I agree with you. I think that the country should be united in trying to seek out and kill terrorists, who would kill us.
But I'd like to have some concrete things that you, Bill Maher, the terror czar — and take this seriously, this could be a series — what would you do?
All right, so you've got bin Laden. You've got Al Qaeda (search). You've got a bunch of other lower-level terrorist groups. What do you do to neutralize them?
MAHER: OK. Well, first of all, you discounted my answer, which is get the politics out, but OK.
O'REILLY: Well, assume you can do that. They're gone.
MAHER: We'll let that go. Keep going. I wouldn't worry that much about bin Laden. I mean, capturing bin Laden at this point, it doesn't really matter whether he's dead or alive. He's already Tupac to the people who care about him and work for him. Capturing bin Laden, killing him would be like when Ray Kroc died, how much that affected McDonald's.
O'REILLY: It would be a morale booster. But I understand. You're not going to send...
MAHER: A morale booster, right. Well, we've had plenty of morale boosting. We've had plenty of window dressing. What we need is concrete action.
In the book I wrote before this one about terrorism, I suggested that we have a Secret Service for the people. I said whenever the president goes anywhere, he has very high-level, intelligent detectives who look around at a crowd. They know what they're looking for. They're highly paid. They're highly trained.
We don't have that in this country. We should have that. We should have a cadre of 10,000 highly trained people who would guard all public events, bus stations, train stations, airports — and stop with this nonsense that this robotic sort of window dressing...
O'REILLY: OK, so you would create a homeland security office that was basically a security firm for major targets and things like that. It's not a bad idea. Costs a lot of money. Costs a lot of money. It's not a bad idea.
MAHER: Costs a lot of money compared to what? If you paid 10,000 people a salary of $100,000 a year, that would, I think, cost $10 billion or something. That's nothing. There's that much pork in the transportation bill before you get...
O'REILLY: Yes, 10,000 wouldn't do it, but I get your drift.
MAHER: Whatever it costs.
O’REILLY: You would create a super-security apparatus. OK, that's not bad. That's not bad. How about overseas now?
MAHER: What we need to do is what I call get Israeli about this. Because the Israelis are not afraid of profiling. The Israelis are not afraid to bury politics in the greater cause of protecting their nation. We don't act that way. You know, I'm afraid 9/11 really changed nothing.
O'REILLY: Boy, your ACLU (search) pals aren't going to like that. You're going to lose your membership card there.
MAHER: I'm not a member of the ACLU.
O'REILLY: Oh, sure you are, just like I voted for Bush. You're a member of the ACLU. I can see the card right in your pocket there.
MAHER: Bill, I'm not a joiner. I'm not a joiner. I don't like organizations.
O'REILLY: They won't have you, Maher, let's be honest about that. All right, now, in your book, which is very amusing, by the way — if you want a few laughs buy Maher's book.
MAHER: Thank you.
O'REILLY: You take some shots at FOX News, which is your wont, and I just want to know why you think we're so fabulously successful here.
MAHER: Well, I think that question has been answered many times. It's because the conservative viewer in this country, or on radio the conservative listener, is very predictable. They like to hear what they like to hear. They like to hear it over and over again.
O'REILLY: All the surveys show that the viewers are all over the map. They're not conservative in a big bloc. Some of them are moderate. Some of them are Democrats. Some of them are Moroccans. I mean, they're everywhere. That's your analysis? That just the conservatives watch us?
MAHER: Well, I think mostly the conservatives do watch you. That's not to take anything away from what you guys have achieved over there. It's a very well-produced broadcast, and they have excellent personalities like yourself, Bill. Who could resist watching you when you get home from work at night?
O'REILLY: Whoopi Goldberg, maybe? I don't know.
MAHER: Yes.
O'REILLY: Anyone who doesn't watch here is misguided. We identify them as such.
But look, I think there's more to it than — you're in TV. You know the ratings game. I mean, if you don't provide a product that is satisfying people, no matter what your ideology, they tell you to take a hike.
There's a guy over at MSNBC. He's a very conservative guy. He was hired and nobody's watching him. They hire liberals. Nobody watches them. Air America (search). Nobody's listening to it.
I mean, there's got to be a reason why we're No. 1, a punch line for you, and No. 2, you know, becoming the most powerful news network in the world.
MAHER: Well, I think, as I say, it's a well-produced product. You know, your program moves along, always at a clip that never seems to bore. You know, you move along to the next topic, the next guest. It never sort of drags. I don't think a lot of people know how to produce that stuff that way.
O'REILLY: All right. It's bells and whistles and my charming personality. That's what I thought it was.
Last thing: You know, one thing I like about Maher is he's not a hypocrite. He drives a little hybrid vehicle. Right? You putter around there. Does it have training wheels? What's it like?
MAHER: Actually, I had the Prius hybrid for three years. I was one of the first ones to get it right after 9/11. And I traded it in a few months ago for the Lexus hybrid.
O'REILLY: I think we should all cut back on our energy consumption, and I think we should all get these hybrids as fast as we can.
Hey, Bill, always nice to see you. Thanks very much. Good luck with the season on the TV show.
MAHER: Continued success there, Mr. No. 1.
O'REILLY: All right. Thank you.
Watch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor!"
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Need a job? Move to Saskatchewan, Canada. Why?
OIL AND CHEAPER GOVERNMENT TAXES. Didn't McCain want to start oil producing here in our own country? Look what it is doing for Saskatchewan. Dang it. An area of our own country could have been like Saskatchewan and instead, we are building a train track from LA to Las Vegas and other STUFF which will soon be out of jobs again down the road.
CNN) -- Normally, "hot spot" isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when talking about Saskatchewan, Canada.
A relocation service company president said he is moving more people to Saskatechwan than ever before.
1 of 3 But with most of Canada suffering from devastating job losses, this cold province is becoming exactly that.
It's an asterisk to the entire country when it comes to the economic climate, and Premier Brad Wall is shouting it as loud as he can.
"It's a great time to come to Saskatchewan," said Wall, who even called the Toronto Star newspaper to tout his province's economic success and let Ontarians know there were jobs for the taking.
"For those who are losing their jobs, we need them to know we have thousands of jobs open right now in both the private and public sector," Wall said. "We have a powerful story to tell, a story of success and that's something we want to share with those who are struggling."
Wall's province is one of the exceptions to the unemployment increases battering provinces across Canada. Saskatchewan's unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in January from 4.2 percent in December, making it the only province recording a decline. In Ontario and the city of Toronto, unemployment rates rose to 7.2 percent and 8.5 percent respectively. To the west, British Columbia shed 68,000 full-time jobs in January.
More Saskatchewan jobs should be on the way. To stave off any possible recession, Wall announced a $500 million infrastructure "booster shot" to help keep the economy strong. Learn more about different towns in Saskatchewan »
"All across the country, industries are getting quite ill," Wall said. "We aren't immune to it. We see some impacts in terms of layoffs and new vehicle purchases slowing off, and so we want to be proactive in staying ahead of the curve."
On Tuesday, the Conference Board of Canada released a report that said Saskatchewan will likely continue to lead the nation in economic growth in 2009 because of the infrastructure investment and tax reductions.
Saskatoon temperatures
Average January temperature:
-16.4 C (2.5 F)
High: -11.1 C (12 F)
Low: -21.6 C (-7 F)
Average July temperature:
18.3 C (65 F)
High: 25 C (77 F)
Low: 11.5 C (52.7 F)
Source: Environment Canada The province has also been reaping the benefits of an influx from nearby Alberta. When the government in Alberta decided to raise the oil royalty rates, oil exploration and expedition companies decided to move their operations to Saskatchewan in hopes of making more money.
With the province's growing opportunities, David Montgomery, president of Calgary's Qwest Haven Relocation Services, said he is moving more people to Saskatchewan each day.
"Alberta has always been the gravy train of oil," said Montgomery, who is also a former resident of Regina, the capitol and second-largest city in Saskatchewan. "But with the new royalties, oil companies are saying 'Why stay here and make less when the opportunities right next door are even better?' Many other companies may start to follow suit."
Montgomery said people looking to move have said that cheaper land and insurance prices are among the other reasons they are headed to Saskatchewan.
"There, government insurance is cheaper than anywhere else in the country and it comes with your license plates," he said. "With the amount of jobs, cheaper opportunities and great way of life, the government there has made it very attractive to move there."
That means more business for Wall's province and more jobs coming to the area.
Not that there's a shortage of jobs. On Tuesday night there were nearly 6,000 private- and public-sector jobs on the Web site Saskjobs.com.
A constant stream of revenue from oil production and exports also buoys the economy in the province.
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Saskatchewan is the largest producer of oil in Canada and exports more oil to the United States than Kuwait. It is the leader in uranium production and produces a third of the world's potash.
The province continues to keep ahead of the curve, Wall said, finding ways to diversify its resources and embark on ambitious green projects and new oil projects. The province is working with Montana on a $212 million climate change initiative that would create the first major greenhouse gas storage project in North America. The carbon dioxide from coal-fueled power plants would be stored in the ground in Montana and later be withdrawn for use in oil production.
Wall also said what may be the largest discovery of sweet, light crude oil in the southeast part of the province means it could have even more oil to work with. The Bakken Formation could potentially have 413 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That would be another huge untapped revenue gold mine.
Despite the growth of nearly all sectors across the board, Wall cautioned that it is possible his province may see economic stress, just later in the game than other places.
"We need to be circumspect and prudent about promoting our province," he said. "We are not immune; we do see the impacts. It isn't some sort of panacea or answer to economic questions that don't exist elsewhere. We are a bit of an asterisk that says there is some stress, but it's relatively calm here."
Wall encouraged people not to count out a move to the province based on stereotypes that it is "only winter here," and "all of the land is just rolling hills."
"'It's a beautiful, big place where life is great and right now there's also opportunity," he said. "I'm very, very biased, but I can't imagine a place I'd rather be, especially with what's going on economically around the world."
Need a job? Move to Saskatchewan, Canada. Why?
OIL AND CHEAPER GOVERNMENT TAXES. Didn't McCain want to start oil producing here in our own country? Look what it is doing for Saskatchewan. Dang it. An area of our own country could have been like Saskatchewan and instead, we are building a train track from LA to Las Vegas and other STUFF which will soon be out of jobs again down the road.
CNN) -- Normally, "hot spot" isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when talking about Saskatchewan, Canada.
A relocation service company president said he is moving more people to Saskatechwan than ever before.
1 of 3 But with most of Canada suffering from devastating job losses, this cold province is becoming exactly that.
It's an asterisk to the entire country when it comes to the economic climate, and Premier Brad Wall is shouting it as loud as he can.
"It's a great time to come to Saskatchewan," said Wall, who even called the Toronto Star newspaper to tout his province's economic success and let Ontarians know there were jobs for the taking.
"For those who are losing their jobs, we need them to know we have thousands of jobs open right now in both the private and public sector," Wall said. "We have a powerful story to tell, a story of success and that's something we want to share with those who are struggling."
Wall's province is one of the exceptions to the unemployment increases battering provinces across Canada. Saskatchewan's unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in January from 4.2 percent in December, making it the only province recording a decline. In Ontario and the city of Toronto, unemployment rates rose to 7.2 percent and 8.5 percent respectively. To the west, British Columbia shed 68,000 full-time jobs in January.
More Saskatchewan jobs should be on the way. To stave off any possible recession, Wall announced a $500 million infrastructure "booster shot" to help keep the economy strong. Learn more about different towns in Saskatchewan »
"All across the country, industries are getting quite ill," Wall said. "We aren't immune to it. We see some impacts in terms of layoffs and new vehicle purchases slowing off, and so we want to be proactive in staying ahead of the curve."
On Tuesday, the Conference Board of Canada released a report that said Saskatchewan will likely continue to lead the nation in economic growth in 2009 because of the infrastructure investment and tax reductions.
Saskatoon temperatures
Average January temperature:
-16.4 C (2.5 F)
High: -11.1 C (12 F)
Low: -21.6 C (-7 F)
Average July temperature:
18.3 C (65 F)
High: 25 C (77 F)
Low: 11.5 C (52.7 F)
Source: Environment Canada The province has also been reaping the benefits of an influx from nearby Alberta. When the government in Alberta decided to raise the oil royalty rates, oil exploration and expedition companies decided to move their operations to Saskatchewan in hopes of making more money.
With the province's growing opportunities, David Montgomery, president of Calgary's Qwest Haven Relocation Services, said he is moving more people to Saskatchewan each day.
"Alberta has always been the gravy train of oil," said Montgomery, who is also a former resident of Regina, the capitol and second-largest city in Saskatchewan. "But with the new royalties, oil companies are saying 'Why stay here and make less when the opportunities right next door are even better?' Many other companies may start to follow suit."
Montgomery said people looking to move have said that cheaper land and insurance prices are among the other reasons they are headed to Saskatchewan.
"There, government insurance is cheaper than anywhere else in the country and it comes with your license plates," he said. "With the amount of jobs, cheaper opportunities and great way of life, the government there has made it very attractive to move there."
That means more business for Wall's province and more jobs coming to the area.
Not that there's a shortage of jobs. On Tuesday night there were nearly 6,000 private- and public-sector jobs on the Web site Saskjobs.com.
A constant stream of revenue from oil production and exports also buoys the economy in the province.
Don't Miss
Obama, Brown discuss new economic partnership
Brown: World needs 'global New Deal'
Obama meets Canada's prime minister
Saskatchewan is the largest producer of oil in Canada and exports more oil to the United States than Kuwait. It is the leader in uranium production and produces a third of the world's potash.
The province continues to keep ahead of the curve, Wall said, finding ways to diversify its resources and embark on ambitious green projects and new oil projects. The province is working with Montana on a $212 million climate change initiative that would create the first major greenhouse gas storage project in North America. The carbon dioxide from coal-fueled power plants would be stored in the ground in Montana and later be withdrawn for use in oil production.
Wall also said what may be the largest discovery of sweet, light crude oil in the southeast part of the province means it could have even more oil to work with. The Bakken Formation could potentially have 413 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That would be another huge untapped revenue gold mine.
Despite the growth of nearly all sectors across the board, Wall cautioned that it is possible his province may see economic stress, just later in the game than other places.
"We need to be circumspect and prudent about promoting our province," he said. "We are not immune; we do see the impacts. It isn't some sort of panacea or answer to economic questions that don't exist elsewhere. We are a bit of an asterisk that says there is some stress, but it's relatively calm here."
Wall encouraged people not to count out a move to the province based on stereotypes that it is "only winter here," and "all of the land is just rolling hills."
"'It's a beautiful, big place where life is great and right now there's also opportunity," he said. "I'm very, very biased, but I can't imagine a place I'd rather be, especially with what's going on economically around the world."
Need a job? Move to Saskatchewan, Canada. Why?
OIL AND CHEAPER GOVERNMENT TAXES. Didn't McCain want to start oil producing here in our own country? Look what it is doing for Saskatchewan. Dang it. An area of our own country could have been like Saskatchewan and instead, we are building a train track from LA to Las Vegas and other STUFF which will soon be out of jobs again down the road.
CNN) -- Normally, "hot spot" isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when talking about Saskatchewan, Canada.
A relocation service company president said he is moving more people to Saskatechwan than ever before.
1 of 3 But with most of Canada suffering from devastating job losses, this cold province is becoming exactly that.
It's an asterisk to the entire country when it comes to the economic climate, and Premier Brad Wall is shouting it as loud as he can.
"It's a great time to come to Saskatchewan," said Wall, who even called the Toronto Star newspaper to tout his province's economic success and let Ontarians know there were jobs for the taking.
"For those who are losing their jobs, we need them to know we have thousands of jobs open right now in both the private and public sector," Wall said. "We have a powerful story to tell, a story of success and that's something we want to share with those who are struggling."
Wall's province is one of the exceptions to the unemployment increases battering provinces across Canada. Saskatchewan's unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in January from 4.2 percent in December, making it the only province recording a decline. In Ontario and the city of Toronto, unemployment rates rose to 7.2 percent and 8.5 percent respectively. To the west, British Columbia shed 68,000 full-time jobs in January.
More Saskatchewan jobs should be on the way. To stave off any possible recession, Wall announced a $500 million infrastructure "booster shot" to help keep the economy strong. Learn more about different towns in Saskatchewan »
"All across the country, industries are getting quite ill," Wall said. "We aren't immune to it. We see some impacts in terms of layoffs and new vehicle purchases slowing off, and so we want to be proactive in staying ahead of the curve."
On Tuesday, the Conference Board of Canada released a report that said Saskatchewan will likely continue to lead the nation in economic growth in 2009 because of the infrastructure investment and tax reductions.
Saskatoon temperatures
Average January temperature:
-16.4 C (2.5 F)
High: -11.1 C (12 F)
Low: -21.6 C (-7 F)
Average July temperature:
18.3 C (65 F)
High: 25 C (77 F)
Low: 11.5 C (52.7 F)
Source: Environment Canada The province has also been reaping the benefits of an influx from nearby Alberta. When the government in Alberta decided to raise the oil royalty rates, oil exploration and expedition companies decided to move their operations to Saskatchewan in hopes of making more money.
With the province's growing opportunities, David Montgomery, president of Calgary's Qwest Haven Relocation Services, said he is moving more people to Saskatchewan each day.
"Alberta has always been the gravy train of oil," said Montgomery, who is also a former resident of Regina, the capitol and second-largest city in Saskatchewan. "But with the new royalties, oil companies are saying 'Why stay here and make less when the opportunities right next door are even better?' Many other companies may start to follow suit."
Montgomery said people looking to move have said that cheaper land and insurance prices are among the other reasons they are headed to Saskatchewan.
"There, government insurance is cheaper than anywhere else in the country and it comes with your license plates," he said. "With the amount of jobs, cheaper opportunities and great way of life, the government there has made it very attractive to move there."
That means more business for Wall's province and more jobs coming to the area.
Not that there's a shortage of jobs. On Tuesday night there were nearly 6,000 private- and public-sector jobs on the Web site Saskjobs.com.
A constant stream of revenue from oil production and exports also buoys the economy in the province.
Don't Miss
Obama, Brown discuss new economic partnership
Brown: World needs 'global New Deal'
Obama meets Canada's prime minister
Saskatchewan is the largest producer of oil in Canada and exports more oil to the United States than Kuwait. It is the leader in uranium production and produces a third of the world's potash.
The province continues to keep ahead of the curve, Wall said, finding ways to diversify its resources and embark on ambitious green projects and new oil projects. The province is working with Montana on a $212 million climate change initiative that would create the first major greenhouse gas storage project in North America. The carbon dioxide from coal-fueled power plants would be stored in the ground in Montana and later be withdrawn for use in oil production.
Wall also said what may be the largest discovery of sweet, light crude oil in the southeast part of the province means it could have even more oil to work with. The Bakken Formation could potentially have 413 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That would be another huge untapped revenue gold mine.
Despite the growth of nearly all sectors across the board, Wall cautioned that it is possible his province may see economic stress, just later in the game than other places.
"We need to be circumspect and prudent about promoting our province," he said. "We are not immune; we do see the impacts. It isn't some sort of panacea or answer to economic questions that don't exist elsewhere. We are a bit of an asterisk that says there is some stress, but it's relatively calm here."
Wall encouraged people not to count out a move to the province based on stereotypes that it is "only winter here," and "all of the land is just rolling hills."
"'It's a beautiful, big place where life is great and right now there's also opportunity," he said. "I'm very, very biased, but I can't imagine a place I'd rather be, especially with what's going on economically around the world."
Need a job? Move to Saskatchewan, Canada. Why?
OIL AND CHEAPER GOVERNMENT TAXES. Didn't McCain want to start oil producing here in our own country? Look what it is doing for Saskatchewan. Dang it. An area of our own country could have been like Saskatchewan and instead, we are building a train track from LA to Las Vegas and other STUFF which will soon be out of jobs again down the road.
CNN) -- Normally, "hot spot" isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when talking about Saskatchewan, Canada.
A relocation service company president said he is moving more people to Saskatechwan than ever before.
1 of 3 But with most of Canada suffering from devastating job losses, this cold province is becoming exactly that.
It's an asterisk to the entire country when it comes to the economic climate, and Premier Brad Wall is shouting it as loud as he can.
"It's a great time to come to Saskatchewan," said Wall, who even called the Toronto Star newspaper to tout his province's economic success and let Ontarians know there were jobs for the taking.
"For those who are losing their jobs, we need them to know we have thousands of jobs open right now in both the private and public sector," Wall said. "We have a powerful story to tell, a story of success and that's something we want to share with those who are struggling."
Wall's province is one of the exceptions to the unemployment increases battering provinces across Canada. Saskatchewan's unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in January from 4.2 percent in December, making it the only province recording a decline. In Ontario and the city of Toronto, unemployment rates rose to 7.2 percent and 8.5 percent respectively. To the west, British Columbia shed 68,000 full-time jobs in January.
More Saskatchewan jobs should be on the way. To stave off any possible recession, Wall announced a $500 million infrastructure "booster shot" to help keep the economy strong. Learn more about different towns in Saskatchewan »
"All across the country, industries are getting quite ill," Wall said. "We aren't immune to it. We see some impacts in terms of layoffs and new vehicle purchases slowing off, and so we want to be proactive in staying ahead of the curve."
On Tuesday, the Conference Board of Canada released a report that said Saskatchewan will likely continue to lead the nation in economic growth in 2009 because of the infrastructure investment and tax reductions.
Saskatoon temperatures
Average January temperature:
-16.4 C (2.5 F)
High: -11.1 C (12 F)
Low: -21.6 C (-7 F)
Average July temperature:
18.3 C (65 F)
High: 25 C (77 F)
Low: 11.5 C (52.7 F)
Source: Environment Canada The province has also been reaping the benefits of an influx from nearby Alberta. When the government in Alberta decided to raise the oil royalty rates, oil exploration and expedition companies decided to move their operations to Saskatchewan in hopes of making more money.
With the province's growing opportunities, David Montgomery, president of Calgary's Qwest Haven Relocation Services, said he is moving more people to Saskatchewan each day.
"Alberta has always been the gravy train of oil," said Montgomery, who is also a former resident of Regina, the capitol and second-largest city in Saskatchewan. "But with the new royalties, oil companies are saying 'Why stay here and make less when the opportunities right next door are even better?' Many other companies may start to follow suit."
Montgomery said people looking to move have said that cheaper land and insurance prices are among the other reasons they are headed to Saskatchewan.
"There, government insurance is cheaper than anywhere else in the country and it comes with your license plates," he said. "With the amount of jobs, cheaper opportunities and great way of life, the government there has made it very attractive to move there."
That means more business for Wall's province and more jobs coming to the area.
Not that there's a shortage of jobs. On Tuesday night there were nearly 6,000 private- and public-sector jobs on the Web site Saskjobs.com.
A constant stream of revenue from oil production and exports also buoys the economy in the province.
Don't Miss
Obama, Brown discuss new economic partnership
Brown: World needs 'global New Deal'
Obama meets Canada's prime minister
Saskatchewan is the largest producer of oil in Canada and exports more oil to the United States than Kuwait. It is the leader in uranium production and produces a third of the world's potash.
The province continues to keep ahead of the curve, Wall said, finding ways to diversify its resources and embark on ambitious green projects and new oil projects. The province is working with Montana on a $212 million climate change initiative that would create the first major greenhouse gas storage project in North America. The carbon dioxide from coal-fueled power plants would be stored in the ground in Montana and later be withdrawn for use in oil production.
Wall also said what may be the largest discovery of sweet, light crude oil in the southeast part of the province means it could have even more oil to work with. The Bakken Formation could potentially have 413 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That would be another huge untapped revenue gold mine.
Despite the growth of nearly all sectors across the board, Wall cautioned that it is possible his province may see economic stress, just later in the game than other places.
"We need to be circumspect and prudent about promoting our province," he said. "We are not immune; we do see the impacts. It isn't some sort of panacea or answer to economic questions that don't exist elsewhere. We are a bit of an asterisk that says there is some stress, but it's relatively calm here."
Wall encouraged people not to count out a move to the province based on stereotypes that it is "only winter here," and "all of the land is just rolling hills."
"'It's a beautiful, big place where life is great and right now there's also opportunity," he said. "I'm very, very biased, but I can't imagine a place I'd rather be, especially with what's going on economically around the world."
Need a job? Move to Saskatchewan, Canada. Why?
OIL AND CHEAPER GOVERNMENT TAXES. Didn't McCain want to start oil producing here in our own country? Look what it is doing for Saskatchewan. Dang it. An area of our own country could have been like Saskatchewan and instead, we are building a train track from LA to Las Vegas and other STUFF which will soon be out of jobs again down the road.
CNN) -- Normally, "hot spot" isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when talking about Saskatchewan, Canada.
A relocation service company president said he is moving more people to Saskatechwan than ever before.
1 of 3 But with most of Canada suffering from devastating job losses, this cold province is becoming exactly that.
It's an asterisk to the entire country when it comes to the economic climate, and Premier Brad Wall is shouting it as loud as he can.
"It's a great time to come to Saskatchewan," said Wall, who even called the Toronto Star newspaper to tout his province's economic success and let Ontarians know there were jobs for the taking.
"For those who are losing their jobs, we need them to know we have thousands of jobs open right now in both the private and public sector," Wall said. "We have a powerful story to tell, a story of success and that's something we want to share with those who are struggling."
Wall's province is one of the exceptions to the unemployment increases battering provinces across Canada. Saskatchewan's unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in January from 4.2 percent in December, making it the only province recording a decline. In Ontario and the city of Toronto, unemployment rates rose to 7.2 percent and 8.5 percent respectively. To the west, British Columbia shed 68,000 full-time jobs in January.
More Saskatchewan jobs should be on the way. To stave off any possible recession, Wall announced a $500 million infrastructure "booster shot" to help keep the economy strong. Learn more about different towns in Saskatchewan »
"All across the country, industries are getting quite ill," Wall said. "We aren't immune to it. We see some impacts in terms of layoffs and new vehicle purchases slowing off, and so we want to be proactive in staying ahead of the curve."
On Tuesday, the Conference Board of Canada released a report that said Saskatchewan will likely continue to lead the nation in economic growth in 2009 because of the infrastructure investment and tax reductions.
Saskatoon temperatures
Average January temperature:
-16.4 C (2.5 F)
High: -11.1 C (12 F)
Low: -21.6 C (-7 F)
Average July temperature:
18.3 C (65 F)
High: 25 C (77 F)
Low: 11.5 C (52.7 F)
Source: Environment Canada The province has also been reaping the benefits of an influx from nearby Alberta. When the government in Alberta decided to raise the oil royalty rates, oil exploration and expedition companies decided to move their operations to Saskatchewan in hopes of making more money.
With the province's growing opportunities, David Montgomery, president of Calgary's Qwest Haven Relocation Services, said he is moving more people to Saskatchewan each day.
"Alberta has always been the gravy train of oil," said Montgomery, who is also a former resident of Regina, the capitol and second-largest city in Saskatchewan. "But with the new royalties, oil companies are saying 'Why stay here and make less when the opportunities right next door are even better?' Many other companies may start to follow suit."
Montgomery said people looking to move have said that cheaper land and insurance prices are among the other reasons they are headed to Saskatchewan.
"There, government insurance is cheaper than anywhere else in the country and it comes with your license plates," he said. "With the amount of jobs, cheaper opportunities and great way of life, the government there has made it very attractive to move there."
That means more business for Wall's province and more jobs coming to the area.
Not that there's a shortage of jobs. On Tuesday night there were nearly 6,000 private- and public-sector jobs on the Web site Saskjobs.com.
A constant stream of revenue from oil production and exports also buoys the economy in the province.
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Saskatchewan is the largest producer of oil in Canada and exports more oil to the United States than Kuwait. It is the leader in uranium production and produces a third of the world's potash.
The province continues to keep ahead of the curve, Wall said, finding ways to diversify its resources and embark on ambitious green projects and new oil projects. The province is working with Montana on a $212 million climate change initiative that would create the first major greenhouse gas storage project in North America. The carbon dioxide from coal-fueled power plants would be stored in the ground in Montana and later be withdrawn for use in oil production.
Wall also said what may be the largest discovery of sweet, light crude oil in the southeast part of the province means it could have even more oil to work with. The Bakken Formation could potentially have 413 billion barrels of oil, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That would be another huge untapped revenue gold mine.
Despite the growth of nearly all sectors across the board, Wall cautioned that it is possible his province may see economic stress, just later in the game than other places.
"We need to be circumspect and prudent about promoting our province," he said. "We are not immune; we do see the impacts. It isn't some sort of panacea or answer to economic questions that don't exist elsewhere. We are a bit of an asterisk that says there is some stress, but it's relatively calm here."
Wall encouraged people not to count out a move to the province based on stereotypes that it is "only winter here," and "all of the land is just rolling hills."
"'It's a beautiful, big place where life is great and right now there's also opportunity," he said. "I'm very, very biased, but I can't imagine a place I'd rather be, especially with what's going on economically around the world."
bill maher.com
Hey, if any of you want to post on another board, I mean when this one gets overloaded with conservative attacks, Bill Maher.com. It is pretty cool and you can post away however you want, whatever you want. In order to post, you must pick a handle and password and register and log in each time..Check it out.
Bill Maher
Great show last night! Loved David Frost. Couldn't get over West Clark saying that Middle Eastern women are content being forced to cover themselves from head to toe!
Live in San Francisco area so really want to get to LA for the taping of his show.
But then again, Bill Maher probably would have told him where he could...sm
go stick the Freakonomics book, and that would be the end of Bill on Fox. LOL.
Any Bill Maher fans out there?
Confessed HUGE fan ~ anyone catch last night's show?
saw him on Bill Maher and he scared me!!!
I agree with Bill Maher ...
He stated the American people have complained for 8 years how they hate the garbage we have been forced to eat. It is highly unlikely that in November we would say, "Please, serve us more!"
I agree. It doesn't have anything to do with whether I think McCain or Obama either one can actually do the job. Their word and position choices are made right now based on whether it will help them in the election, not truly whether they feel passionate about the causes they are hailing. In fact, their pasts demonstrate differently.
Their parties' actions are what I have to look at. I am tired of the Republicans running us into the ground to make their millions at the expense of the very working class who put and keep them in business.
I'm tired of what the Republican party has put on the plate to feed us for 8 years straight. Let's get a new chef!
Isn't the Bill Maher board missing you?
Oh good grief....Bill Maher will say ANYthing...
Just saw a clip where he was talking to Jon Corzine (gov NJ) about the media lovefest with Obama...and Maher says something about it the media loving him but then says: "but those guys over at MSNBC (Olbermann and Matthews), they act like they want to have sex with him." Geez. People really think this guy is funny. But at least I have to admit it wasn't a conservative he was sniping at this time...still doesn't excuse it. Although Matthews' tingle up the leg statement made a lot of people raise an eyebrow. They said it was on the internet. I saw it on TV but have not looked on the internet. Good grief. Sigh.
American Woman posts on Bill Maher
American Woman posts on Bill Maher. I wish she would come back here. I have asked her, through my posts. Hopefully she will one day. My family and I are okay. Fires all around us and down near where we used to live in North Hollywood (Chatsworth area, where Lucille Ball and Desi had a home) but fortunately not up here in the Mojave Desert where we are now. Thank you for your concern. You are so kind. :O)
Get real. Alan Coombs has twice the intellect of Bill Maher. sm
There is no contest there. The fact is William Bennett didn't deserve to be chastised and the fact that you still refuse to see that is glaringly apparent. You see what he said as racist because you WANT to. There is no other reason. And that's too damn bad. As I stated, I am mixed race. I grew up with a whole lot of prejudice from BOTH sides, but I also grew up with parents who taught ME not to BE a racist. People who look for racism in every single statement are what is dividing this country. Any African-America who speaks up for Bennett will be labeled an Uncle Tom. It has already happened. It makes me sick.
Hoping you and Bill M. move there first,
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When Bill Clinton was in office, OHHH you better believe Bill and Carter have had..sm
their day of mudslinging matches, at the pleasure of a many conservatives. So, no there's not a double standard here.
Maher
If you don't agree with the administrators on Maher's site, do they track your ISP numbers? Never mind. Doesn't really matter because nobody's livelihood would be in jeopardy on Maher's site in the way it could be here.
Do you have a link to that site? I don't trust this one any more.
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Yup go on there all the time! Love it, love Bill Maher, don't like Ann Coulter. Thank goodness the Pheonix Sun newspaper fired her!!! WHHOOO, HAAA, people starting to get some sense. It was her wish that Sheehan would go through Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia. Well she has more than that now, it has gone through Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama - and GA is taking in many many refugees. So guess Ann Coulter got her ignorant wish granted, being a Christian perhaps she prayed for it? LOL that is not my God at all.
When I think of Maher's ego I think of the marshmallow man...
in Ghostbusters...lol He doesn't need anymore fans...he his his biggest one. I bet he watches his own tapes at night all alone with his beer and cigs and yells at the TV "got you &@#(QA's that time!" Poor fella.
Bill Clinton and his ties to India (yes, Bill),...
and China (yes, Bill) sent a lot of our jobs their way. Google it some time. Even I was amazed.
Look, it is simple economics. The big bad corporations everyone hates...first of all, it is not 5 or 6 rich guys and that's it. They employee thousands of people just like us...and when the government puts those huge taxes on them, if they want to stay in business, they are forced to move offshore. Higher taxes are responsible for more jobs going overseas than "greed." The DNC has told its members for years that "corporations" and "the rich" are the cause of all their problems and they have bought that Marxist rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. Corporations are not the cause of ill in this country. They are the backbone of the economy in this country. That is simple economics 101. And I am certainly not rich...and I certainly am not on the upper echelon of a corporation, but I do understand reality and I understand how the economy works. Yes, there is wrongdoing by some upper level folks in corporations. There is wrongdoing in the government. Where there is power, there will be wrongdoing. But for every Enron there are thousands of other good, solid companies that employ thousands of Americans, but the DNC does not share the success stories, because it does not promote their agenda. In order to control people they want them beholden to government and hating free enterprise. They want big government, total power, and control. And following Alinksy's program...you have to instill class warfare. You have to make corporations the enemy. You have to make classes envy the next rung up. Classic Marxist socialism. It is being played out in this country every day.
It is just that some of us have not bought the myth and jumped on the socialism train.
Did you read the bill? It was a regulatory reform bill...
asking them to regulate, not de-regulate. But Democrats blocked it...no wonder. Fannie was greasing a lot of Democratic palms...and Frederick Raines, the Dem CEO at the time...was in the Clinton administration. They were taking care of their own...and we are paying for it.
Elizabeth not withstanding....the view is right up there with Maher...
can't stomach either of them. Why is it that the left just want to ridicule, ridicule, ridicule, attack, attack, attack? This has absolutely nothing to do with politics....oh, what am I thinking. That IS the politics of the left. Nothing substantive to say, just ridicule DE jour.
Here's one from Canada! sm
The Democrats' decline
by Klaus Rohrich
September 9, 2004
The leftist protesters that attempted to shut down Fox News Network in New York Last week are a crystal clear illustration of just how totalitarian and desperate these poor wretches have become. Sporting a philosophy that was killed by President Ronald Reagan in 1999, but had lost any claim to legitimacy long before that, they stormed Fox News’ offices chanting, "Shut up Fox News".
Dressed in a variety of bizarre costumes such as those sported by their "Code Pink" and the "Inferno Noise Brigade" cohorts, the group is evocative of the Nazi storm troopers that frequented Germany in the 1930s. Like the storm troopers of yesteryear, these storm troopers are also attempting to silence voices that do not agree with them. Their effort to "shut up Fox News" is the moral equivalence of burning books.
I have long been fascinated with the mixed messages emanating from the left. On the one hand, they are in favour of extending freedom to everyone, except people with whom they disagree. In this case I imagine they would have no problem imprisoning those who dared to disagree. It’s clear that the left has been highjacked and relegated to the lunatic fringe. I can’t imagine any other reason why people dressed as carrots would show up at their demonstrations.
But more importantly, who can take these people seriously? It appears that the Democratic Party has managed to attract every way-out radical leftie in North America. No wonder serious Democrats such as Zell Miller are deserting the Party in droves.
The Democrats are the party of John F. Kennedy and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, both of whom have left an indelible mark in the history of the United States. The former for his bold civil rights initiatives and the tax cuts that created one of the longest periods of prosperity in recent history, while the latter helped Americans pull themselves out of the Great Depression by their bootstraps and faced the most destructive war in history. Today’s most recent democratic presidents have left bodies in the Iranian desert and stains on an intern’s dress. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
It’s curious to note that their fight to regain control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Presidency is largely waged with lies, half-truths and innuendo. Imagine, taking Michael Moore’s allegations seriously, or listening to anything that Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia has to say! Byrd is a former Ku Klux Klansman who has seen the light and became a luminary of the Democratic Party. He’s also the poster boy for all that’s wrong with American politics, given the pork-barrel payoffs he has managed to wangle for his state at the expense of the American taxpayer. He is famous for a recent radio interview during which he used the N-word not once, not twice, but three times. But that seems to be okay with his cohorts, who bend themselves into pretzels trying to prove that the Republicans are racist.
Another fine specimen of Democratic legerdemain is Ted Kennedy, the senior senator from Massachusetts. This flatulent, besotted has-been is famous for midnight swims and his ability to consume vast quantities of alcohol. Then there is Hillary Clinton, whose billing practices at the Rose law firm cost Web Hubbell his career. She was such an astute investor in the cattle futures market that she managed to turn an investment of $1,000 into $100,000 in just over a year, which any futures trader will admit is totally unbelievable. (I realize most of this is innuendo, but maybe the Dems deserve a taste of their own medicine.)
It’s too bad that this has happened to the Democratic Party, because they once were a grand party that moved America into a direction of which they could be proud. Today’s Democratic initiatives sound like Karl Marx wrote them. And they’re wondering why people are deserting them in droves.
Most modern Democrats believe that the reason they are losing ground is because their message isn’t getting across to their constituents. I believe the exact opposite is true. Americans are listening to the things Democrats are saying and then voting Republican. Certainly this has been consistently so at the state and local level.
But think about it: how long can you talk about the inequities of poverty without having someone say "shut up already". After all, the Dems were in power for over 40 years and haven’t managed to win their war on poverty. They are telling African Americans that their lives are miserable because they do not have the same opportunities as Whites. Again, what did the Dems to for black people all those years they were in power? Many African Americans are beginning to understand that it’s the Dems who are managing the plantation, and are looking towards the GOP as an alternative.
One of the reasons that the Democrats haven’t totally perished as a party is the fact that America’s entertainment elite is heavily supporting them. However, that isn’t going to sustain them philosophically, as the population at large is starting to become aware of the foibles, intellectual shortcomings and freak show attributes of people like Barbra Streisand, Whoopie Goldberg and the rest of the Hollywood glitterati.
It’s a fact that the mainstream has shifted to the right. Rather than take their hint from the voters, the Dems are turning into an agglomeration of wing nuts and special interests. Their party has become a centrifuge for loony tunes and outré ideologies. Their decline will continue until they finally get it.
canada
I am stunned that Americans are more passive than Canadians. I am stunned that we have been trampled on for so long that we don't even know how to get up.
Probably Canada
still close to US and I want to go somewhere where there is a lot of snow!
I agree Maher has anger management issues.
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love you, canada!!
Do you have any insight to share with us about Sarah Palin's extensive foreign policy experience, she being Gov in a state that borders on both CANADA and RUSSIA?
Also, please realize there are many people here that also think we are nuts and are working very hard to clean out the mess we have been in the last 8 years.
Wow....even Germany and canada want O....
now THERE is an endorsement.
The voting jews? Redneck fundamentalist? Geez...BIGOTED much??
Another graduate of the Saul Alinsky Marxist-socialist (DNC) school of thought. This is ugly, ugly, and yet another wonderful reason to NOT vote for the big O and give this kind of bigotry power.
I suppose Canada
At least they speak English and I've been there numerous times.
My adult son would probably say Poland as he's been there and it's a nice, friendly, beautiful country with a low cost of living. I might be persuaded to try Poland, but I'd have a hard time learning Polish!
Not so with regard to Canada.
When you have an illness, appts are made for followup (or is it follow up ::rolls eyes::). My four grandparents lived well into their 80s in their own residences and never had the worry of doctor bills sapping their life savings. GF had prostate CA in 1958 and lived 20 more years. Other GF had major cardiac surgery (grafts) and lived 20 more years afterwards. The wait may come with walk in clinics but that is equivalent to U.S.
That may be true in Canada,
though I've heard some stories to the contrary. However, I have no confidence in the US government putting in place anything that is: A) Efficient. B) Humane. C) Cost effective. Instead, it will be the usual bureaucratic power grab and a means to micromanage our lives just a bit more. Our government has too long a history of mucking up everything it tries to run.
As for where the doctors are going, I personally know of two who hold positions as heads of QA at MTSOs, and these are not retirement-age individuals. Doctors may make as much money being 'detail' people for drug companies - without the weekends and malpractice issues. There are doctors in media who no longer practice, but do medical features. There are doctors who no longer practice and are consultants to law firms. Some doctors have become lawyers (talk about going over to the dark side.) There are doctors who go into hospital management and no longer practice.
And where do you get your statistics, other than Canada?
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And where do you get your statistics, other than Canada?
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if abe is on the $5 bill & george is on the $1 bill, what is Obama on?
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maher's letter to the chickenhawk warmonger *puke* president
The warmonger chickenhawk liar is on the TV right now. I cant watch, he makes me want to puke with all his lies..I dont know how anyone can believe this walking piece of dirt.
Bill Maher | Posted September 15, 2005 04:05 PM
Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you any more. There's no more money to spend--you used up all of that. You can't start another war because you used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people. Listen to your Mom. The cupboard's bare, the credit cards maxed out. No one's speaking to you. Mission accomplished.
Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team. It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or space man? Now I know what you're saying: there's so many other things that you as President could involve yourself in. Please don't. I know, I know. There's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela. Eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church. And Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote.
But, Sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised that you haven't given yourself a medal. You're a catastrophe that walks like a man. Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire city to rising water and snakes.
On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans. Maybe you're just not lucky. I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side.
So, yes, God does speak to you. What he is saying is: 'Take a hint.'
Canada is being called the new America.
I questioned a Canadian how the economy is up there. He said it was strong. I am worried about my social security personally. I am considering buying Canadian dollars now on a regular basis since the exchange rate is now at 1.03 CAN per US dollar.
It has not been this way for 50 years - typically, it was .75 CAN to US 1.00 as I recall my grandmother complaining about losing 25 cents and then 40 cents over the years when she sent the grandkids money as gifts.
Great, take Barbra S and others to Canada with you.
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From what I understand Canada's healthcare...sm
is not run by private insurance companies as is Obama's plan, but rather by the government itself. His aim is for all people to have availablity to health insurance with a premium based on what they can afford, the ability to keep your insurance when you change jobs, keep your own doctor, and have your doctor ultimately decide what treatment is best for you not the insurance company.
Canada's health plan does not work...
that is why people with critical illnesses cross the border to come HERE for treatment. Taxes have gone up dramatically trying to pay for the rising costs. You will pay it in deductibles or pay it in taxes...but you will pay it in a national health care system.
McCain has already enunciated his plan to take care of the "golden parachute" crowd. It is a good plan. He has a plan in place to handle earmarking and lobbying. Saying as President "I will veto those bills and name those who seek to add pork and you will know their names." Good for him!! And he means EITHER party. He puts his country first and wants to make government like it is supposed to be...to serve WE, the people. Yet another reason I am voting McCain. Country First is not just a slogan.
I have a relative living in Canada, yet comes back to
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Soldiers flee to Canada to avoid Iraq duty
Soldiers flee to Canada to avoid Iraq duty
Duncan Campbell
Tuesday March 28, 2006
Guardian Hundreds of deserters from the US armed forces have crossed into Canada and are now seeking political refugee status there, arguing that violations of the rules of war in Iraq by the US entitle them to asylum.
A decision on a test case involving two US servicemen is due shortly and is being watched with interest by fellow servicemen on both sides of the border. At least 20 others have already applied for asylum and there are an estimated 400 in Canada out of more than 9,000 who have deserted since the conflict started in 2003.
Ryan Johnson, 22, from near Fresno in California, was due to be deployed with his unit to Iraq in January last year but crossed the Canadian border in June and is seeking asylum. I had spoken to many soldiers who had been in Iraq and who told me about innocent civilians being killed and about bombing civilian neighbourhoods, he told the Guardian.
It's been really great since I've been here. Generally, people have been really hospitable and understanding, although there have been a few who have been for the war. He is now unable to return to the US. I don't have a problem with that. I'm in Canada and that's that.
Mr Johnson said it was unclear exactly how many US soldiers were in Canada but he thought 400 was a realistic figure. He had been on speaking tours across the country as part of a war resisters' movement and had come across other servicemen living underground.
Jeffry House, a Toronto lawyer who represents many of the men, said that an increasing number were seeking asylum. There are a fair number without status and a fair number on student visas, he said, and under UN guidelines on refugee status they were entitled to seek asylum.
The first test cases involve Jeremy Hinzman, 26, who deserted from the 82 Airborne Division and Brandon Hughey from the 1st Cavalry Division. A decision on their applications is due within the next few weeks. If they are turned down the case will be taken to the federal appeal court and the Canadian supreme court, according to Mr House, a process that would last into next year at least.
All deserters, past and present, are placed on an FBI wanted list. Earlier this month, Allen Abney, 56, who deserted from the US marines 38 years ago during the Vietnam war, was arrested as he crossed into the US, a journey he had taken many times before without problem. He was held in a military jail in California for a few days, then discharged.
They have resuscitated long-dormant warrants, said Mr House. I know 15 people personally who have crossed 10 or more times without problems and then all of a sudden they are arresting people. It seems like it would be connected to Iraq.
Lee Zaslofsky, 61, the coordinator of the War Resisters' Support Campaign in Toronto, said that he was impressed by the young men who were seeking asylum. Some have been to Iraq and others have heard what goes on there, he said. Mainly, what they discuss is being asked to do things they consider repugnant. Most are quite patriotic ... Many say they feel tricked by the military.
During the Vietnam war between 50,000 and 60,000 Americans crossed the border to avoid serving.
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1740986,00.html
If McCain wins, I'll be moving to Canada...Montreal
If you truly believe that, then move to....sm
Iran. You sound like our enemies, just like Iran's terrorist leader....
I'mADinnerJacket (correct pronunciation, btw) said basically the same thing at the UN yesterday:
"The American Empire is reading the end of its road"
Then move along......
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They can't move on s/m
Ayers is the best they've got against this man that McCain himself said was not a terrorist and that he was a good man. Sorry, it just doesn't square.
I think I just move over to the
'Gab board' and take some 'cooking lessons', so that I can profit out of these. Because I do not get any mental stimuli on this board, right now.
Please move then
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Why don't you just move, then?
Please....
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