Buffet and Soros manipulated Japan, European and
Posted By: global markets too? sm on 2008-11-04
In Reply to: Who knows, funny how the market went - onlyinamerica
Care to share your theory on HOW they manipulated the markets? Are they also behind the mortgage meltdown, plummeting home values, bank failures, AIG, credit crisis, consumer confidence index, drops in retail sales, plunge in annual sales reports for GM and Chrysler, layoffs negative jobs growth, rise in unemployment, record Exxon and Chevron profits and the like? All manipulated?
With regard to your sour grapes. Obama will win this election because the republicans failed to overcome the Bush legacy of worst administration in the history of the country. They are in a leadershp crisis that produced a weak candidate who could not put together an effective issues-based campaign and, instead, indulged itself in cultural warfare and the politics of division...which in an of itself is a clear sign of 4 more years of the same stuff we are all trying to run far and wide to get away from. Their party is in shambles because of its right wing who is losing its grip of influence and power over the more moderate and centrist among them. Time for some new blood and a platform transplant.
Obama is clearly the best choice for the future of our country. We could use a little "touchy feely" and will benefit immensely by a giant step forward in terms of taking us into a post racial, post partisan reaffirmation of our core values and common sense of purpose, being unity, justice, equality and opportunity for all Americans. It comes as no surprise that some will not quickly recover from the negativity they have been mired in over this past year and it will be up to them whether they stay stuck in the mud or get with the program.
For those who opt for "more of the same," you will be finding out what it feels like to go through exactly what the democrats are finally emerging from after these past 8 years...the depression that comes from a sense of anomie and living in a parallel universe. That choice is yours.
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Interestingly, a lot have no clue how manipulated things are by them. sm
Their corporations own the media, Hollywood, Federal Reserve and, yes, even politicians. I definitely see Bush as a puppet, but many say he is not as dumb as everyone thinks, maybe dumb when convenient.
Anyway, the US government has a history of creating incidents and being dishonest to get public support for wars. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and declassification of documents, we now know to be fact:
1. Operations Northwoods
Unexecuted plan created by US military to stage a fake attack by Cuba against the US for the purpose of justifying war with Cuba. Documented fact.
2. Tonkin Incident
That thrust us into Vietnam - pretty much now common knowledge that it never happend. Jittery sailors and/or radar abberations leveraged by LBJ to gain popular support for unpopular war, and a blank check from congress.
3. Pearl Harbor
Long held rumor backed by some fairly compelling evidence that FDR both instigated and was aware that the Japanese would attack. At the time 89% of the US population did not want to be involved in Europe's war...
The fact remains that when the government remains secret and manipulative after an attack on the United States, when an administration uses an attack to further its own political goals, puts money in the pockets of its corporate cronies, it makes people tend to question what they are told and to not believe anything the administration says. Bush has made it worse still by lying about nearly every single detail concerning the Iraq invasion, specifically why we invaded. The more lies we hear, the less we believe and the farther back we start to question.
A quote from PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses:
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.
PNAC - page 50.
Wall street, China, Japan, whoever they gave
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Yes. I also know that Buffet is a rare form of CEO.
Man of principle, to be sure. Drives you crazy, doesn't it?
So Jimmy Buffet does a benefit concert for Obama.
How is this a division of the races? There are all different races in this country ya' know.
look up moveon.org & George Soros
That's all you need to know. HUGE BUCKS from them (one in the same, actually).
George Soros is having "a very good recession". Made $2.9 billion.
So, this "man of the people" who funds the loony left and wants all the rest of us to be communists rakes in $billions from the recession. He's out there picking up stuff at bargain-basement prices just like JP Morgan and his kind did.
Disgusting.
Well...if it puts Obama in a good light, it is probably owned by George Soros. nm
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European healthcare
Its not all cracked up as it sounds. I use healthcare right now in Sweden and its horrendously bad. I had to fly home to the US to get my breasts examined for lumps that were found because they have the "if it isn't broken, bleeding or obviously damaged, then go home and take an aspirin" mentality. They found the lumps and we were still waiting for a mammogram over a month later because they don't want to do testing and because they have a don't care attitude when it comes to everything here. Don't rush them. its amazing. Its at least 6 months waiting list (if your lucky) to see the dentist unless you are under a certain age as a youth. You can get private healthcare here but the cost of labor is such that its hugely expensive. I don't know about other places because I have only lived here and in the US. We have great healthcare in the US and we have never chosen jobs where we weren't going to have some kind of coverage, but I would never give up my doctors and my insurance in the US for this garbage social junk.
Are you SERIOUS? Here's what the European Union
The EU is a political and economic union of 27 members states, located primarily in Europe, composed of almost 500 million citizens (as compared to 710 million on the total continent of Europe), or 7.3% of the world's total population. The EU generates 30% of the wold's nominal gross domestic product ($16.8 trillion in 2007). There are 23 official and working languages. It is 100% SECULAR in nature
Criteria for membership:
1. Stable democracy which respects human rights and rule of law.
2. Functioning market economy capable of competition within the EU.
3. Acceptance of obligations of membership (EU law).
EU member countries:
1. Austria
2. Belguim
3. Bulgaria
4. Cyprus
5. Czech Rebpulic
6. Denmark
7. Estonia
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. Greece
12. Hungary
13. Republic of Ireland
14. Italy
15. Latvia
16. Lithuania
17. Luxembourg
18. Malta
19. Netherlands
20. Poland
21. Portugal
22. Romania
23. Slovakia
24. Slovenia
25. Spain
26. Sweden
27. United Kingdom
Three official candidate countries are Croatia, the Republic of Macedonia and Turkey. Western Balkan countries of Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia are officially recognized potential candidates. Kosovo has been granted similar status.
Areas of common shared interests:
1. Governance of institutions, legal system and fundamental rights.
2. Foreign relations including humanitarian aid, military and defense.
3. Justice and home affairs.
4. Economy, consisting of single market, monetary union, competition and budget.
5. Development of agriculture, energy, infrastructure, regional development, environment, education and research.
For more information on its history and details of the above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union
Yeah, man, but it's so European!!
I guess this doesn't count as a ''tax'' as in ''no new taxes on anyone earning under $250,000''? I must've misheard that.
The insidious thing about VAT, is that you never see it. Just like a street drug that's been ''stepped on'' (diluted) by every intermediary to touch it, from Colombia to your local vender, what you end up is a whole lot less than the way it started out. You won't see a separate line for tax on your purchase. But every step of the manufacturing and transport system will be taxed as it moves along its way to you. Won't that be great?
She posted articles about the big 3 in Europe, not European car cos.....(nm)
European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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So,. bottom line, I am European born
and I have proven that my grammar and spelling is better than yours.
Sometimes I make some typos, but last not least this is a froum and on this forum there is no 'typo police' applied, not even 'grammar and spelling police.'
Go and take your meds, I bet you swallow tens of those every day and night, and pray!
Big Three's European Divisions Could Show Ailing U.S. Industry the Way Back...sm
Why are the profitable in Europe? Could it be because they have no unions? It's real hard to find the positive information on the Big 3 outside of the U.S. It's almost as if someone doesn't want us to know and compare the differences...again, it probably boils down to the unions.... GM also just opened a plant in Russia.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,466144,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov07/0,4670,EURussiaGeneralMotors,00.html
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