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Yeah, man, but it's so European!!

Posted By: A.Nonymous on 2009-05-30
In Reply to: It will be just like the income tax - SM

I guess this doesn't count as a ''tax'' as in ''no new taxes on anyone earning under $250,000''?  I must've misheard that.


The insidious thing about VAT, is that you never see it.  Just like a street drug that's been ''stepped on'' (diluted) by every intermediary to touch it, from Colombia to your local vender, what you end up is a whole lot less than the way it started out.  You won't see a separate line for tax on your purchase.  But every step of the manufacturing and transport system will be taxed as it moves along its way to you.  Won't that be great?




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Its not all cracked up as it sounds. I use healthcare right now in Sweden and its horrendously bad. I had to fly home to the US to get my breasts examined for lumps that were found because they have the "if it isn't broken, bleeding or obviously damaged, then go home and take an aspirin" mentality. They found the lumps and we were still waiting for a mammogram over a month later because they don't want to do testing and because they have a don't care attitude when it comes to everything here. Don't rush them. its amazing. Its at least 6 months waiting list (if your lucky) to see the dentist unless you are under a certain age as a youth. You can get private healthcare here but the cost of labor is such that its hugely expensive. I don't know about other places because I have only lived here and in the US. We have great healthcare in the US and we have never chosen jobs where we weren't going to have some kind of coverage, but I would never give up my doctors and my insurance in the US for this garbage social junk.
Are you SERIOUS? Here's what the European Union
The EU is a political and economic union of 27 members states, located primarily in Europe, composed of almost 500 million citizens (as compared to 710 million on the total continent of Europe), or 7.3% of the world's total population. The EU generates 30% of the wold's nominal gross domestic product ($16.8 trillion in 2007). There are 23 official and working languages. It is 100% SECULAR in nature

Criteria for membership:
1. Stable democracy which respects human rights and rule of law.
2. Functioning market economy capable of competition within the EU.
3. Acceptance of obligations of membership (EU law).

EU member countries:
1. Austria
2. Belguim
3. Bulgaria
4. Cyprus
5. Czech Rebpulic
6. Denmark
7. Estonia
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. Greece
12. Hungary
13. Republic of Ireland
14. Italy
15. Latvia
16. Lithuania
17. Luxembourg
18. Malta
19. Netherlands
20. Poland
21. Portugal
22. Romania
23. Slovakia
24. Slovenia
25. Spain
26. Sweden
27. United Kingdom

Three official candidate countries are Croatia, the Republic of Macedonia and Turkey. Western Balkan countries of Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia are officially recognized potential candidates. Kosovo has been granted similar status.

Areas of common shared interests:
1. Governance of institutions, legal system and fundamental rights.
2. Foreign relations including humanitarian aid, military and defense.
3. Justice and home affairs.
4. Economy, consisting of single market, monetary union, competition and budget.
5. Development of agriculture, energy, infrastructure, regional development, environment, education and research.

For more information on its history and details of the above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

She posted articles about the big 3 in Europe, not European car cos.....(nm)

European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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So,. bottom line, I am European born
and I have proven that my grammar and spelling is better than yours.

Sometimes I make some typos, but last not least this is a froum and on this forum there is no 'typo police' applied, not even 'grammar and spelling police.'

Go and take your meds, I bet you swallow tens of those every day and night, and pray!


Buffet and Soros manipulated Japan, European and
Care to share your theory on HOW they manipulated the markets? Are they also behind the mortgage meltdown, plummeting home values, bank failures, AIG, credit crisis, consumer confidence index, drops in retail sales, plunge in annual sales reports for GM and Chrysler, layoffs negative jobs growth, rise in unemployment, record Exxon and Chevron profits and the like? All manipulated?

With regard to your sour grapes. Obama will win this election because the republicans failed to overcome the Bush legacy of worst administration in the history of the country. They are in a leadershp crisis that produced a weak candidate who could not put together an effective issues-based campaign and, instead, indulged itself in cultural warfare and the politics of division...which in an of itself is a clear sign of 4 more years of the same stuff we are all trying to run far and wide to get away from. Their party is in shambles because of its right wing who is losing its grip of influence and power over the more moderate and centrist among them. Time for some new blood and a platform transplant.

Obama is clearly the best choice for the future of our country. We could use a little "touchy feely" and will benefit immensely by a giant step forward in terms of taking us into a post racial, post partisan reaffirmation of our core values and common sense of purpose, being unity, justice, equality and opportunity for all Americans. It comes as no surprise that some will not quickly recover from the negativity they have been mired in over this past year and it will be up to them whether they stay stuck in the mud or get with the program.

For those who opt for "more of the same," you will be finding out what it feels like to go through exactly what the democrats are finally emerging from after these past 8 years...the depression that comes from a sense of anomie and living in a parallel universe. That choice is yours.
Big Three's European Divisions Could Show Ailing U.S. Industry the Way Back...sm
Why are the profitable in Europe? Could it be because they have no unions? It's real hard to find the positive information on the Big 3 outside of the U.S. It's almost as if someone doesn't want us to know and compare the differences...again, it probably boils down to the unions.... GM also just opened a plant in Russia.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,466144,00.html




http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov07/0,4670,EURussiaGeneralMotors,00.html
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta

yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Oh, yeah yeah, whatever. There's plenty of satan here, that is for sure!

Yeah, yeah, everything is funny. Wont
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....still protesting too much. (nm)
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Oh yeah. It says a lot.

Yeah, you are probably right. sm
After all, everyone must be lying.   Everyone on the right, all liars.  Al Franken says so, so it must be true. You know what is wrong with you guys.  You cannot handle confrontation or anyone who doesn't agree with you at all!
Well, yeah.....nm
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yeah, you are sure right about that.
Almost every single post on that board is like it was written by a bunch of annoying, redneck teenage boys!!!!
Yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah? So what?

That's exactly what I said.  Scarborough has always supported Bush.  There is a difference between supporting and blindly following.  For example, you see nothing wrong with how this case was handled.  You see nothing wrong with Bush lying every time he opens his mouth.  That's blind faith.


Scarborough is an objective Republican who believes in honesty.  I realize this is a difficult concept for some CONS to understand.  Once upon a time, honesty was considered a good thing in the United States.  People who were honest were considered to have moral character and integrity.  Scarborough is one of those rare of Republicans, totally foreign to you, I'm sure.


To blindly follow (which I'm sure you're quite familiar with) means worshiping a man as if he's some kind of god, believing every single word he says, even when you see evidence to the contrary right before your eyes.   He lies every day; those who follow blindly believe him every day.  And when it becomes common knowledge that he's lied and when they can't twist and manipulate the lie out of recognition any more, then his blind followers make excuses for him, usually blaming democrats or anyone else who is handy but never blaming the liar himself.  And they justify all the lying because they have that special *connection* with God.  They can lie all they want and God just winks at them and says it's okay because their place in heaven has already been guaranteed, unlike the rest of us poor slobs out there without that special connection.


The only thing that scares me more than Bush having the same credibility as Al Qaeda is the fact that there are so many morons who blindly follow him, who just aren't smart enough to figure out that Bush was never on their side - he's only on the side of big money.  He even joked about his *base* - the *haves* and the *have nots.*


By the way, you are on the liberal board.  If you don't care for the liberal point of view, the CON board is ---->


Yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah, whatever!!! ....nm

Yeah probably, but it's only okay when you do it?
Right? The rest of us should be ashamed.
Yeah. Whatever you say.

I was responding to this:  *And know a lot PK. I know A LOT about your posting habits more than you could ever imagine.*  I was accused of doing something I simply didn't do, so that just shows me how much you people really DO know, and, yes, I can *imagine* a LOT when faced with this kind of ominous post. 


Those of your ilk have dark histories of murdering people of different beliefs (for example, personnel at abortion clinics), and the latest tactic of the Neocons is intimidation and retribution.  Just ask Valerie Plame, who used to have a career before her husband spoke the truth.


If someone said that to you on your board, you'd be accusing them of threatening to assassinate you and contacting the FBI.  Who are you KIDDING?  Typical neocon double standard and hypocrisy at work again. 


Yeah, so did LBJ.

but the point is, the far left hates Cheney as much or more than Bush, so impeach Bush, get Cheney, then what?  Impeach Cheney?  Then you get Hastert. I know the far left doesn't like him. Impeach him and get Ted Stevens.  He's a Republican, too.  (President pro tempore of the Senate).  Impeach him and get...Condi Rice...if she isn't buying shoes.  What have you gained. Absolutely nothing. Well...maybe some payback for Clinton, which is what this is all about anyway.  Why not just wait until 2008 and vote the bums out. 


Yeah...I know...sm
And I didn't agree with Pat Roberson calling for his death, and in the wake of Katrina Bush could have accepted his olive branch for fuel.

However, I think Chavez's speech was disrespectful being how the UN is hosted by the US. We can't think Dem vs Rep. He disrespected the US.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Two posters identifying themselves as liberals stated it was more important to investigate Bush than to concentrate on terrorism. That does not stem from anything but hatred and revenge. Fact, ma'am. No bumper sticker talk. Nancy Pelosi yelled impeachment right up until two weeks before the election and how it was first on her list when they got power. Had they not filled the seats with conservative Democrats rather than liberal ones I am pretty darn sure that would have gone forward. And that also stems from hatred of conservatism first, George Bush second, and a desire for revenge. She talks about ridding Washington of corruption on the one hand, and then supports Murtha (I will not go into his corruption) and Hastings (a Federal judge who was impeached and who she voted to impeach) for a chairmanship. She has absolutely no credibility in my eyes, and apparently the new conservative Democrats in the house don't think so either, as they did not goose step in line and vote in her choice. Good for them! Also had another liberal post that aborting a child was like removing a wart or a cancer. That is not hate, that is completely morally bankrupt. Somewhere along the line the liberal morality meter has gone wonky, and in my humble opinion it is BECAUSE of rational and analytical thought devoid of emotion, and stopping listening to that small still voice inside you, that soul that God put in you when he created you. Yes, I am emotional, because I believe it was leading to the decay of the American soul. I will fight it the best way I know how, and that is to stand for what I believe in, and kneeling to pray for this country and EVERYone in it. God bless, Lurker.
Yeah, I know.....
you would think I would stop trying. However, I keep thinking that maybe, somehow, somewhere, something might sink in....sighhh.
Yeah, it goes like that. SM

Teddy says they all communicate by e-mail or are related, so it's not surprising since they all kind of show up at one time.  It's been that way so long.  Anyhoo, we can take and they can't!


Yeah, you are right. SM
And you guys stalk people, wish them to die, and wished the president and his family burn in hell.  That's so much better.
Yeah!!!
Gave me goose bumps! His wife must be beside herself ~ Thanks for the heads up
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Yeah, right. We can all see just how
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Yeah...right. LOL. nm
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Oh yeah.....
Michael Moore's INfamous quotes:

"Should such an ignorant people lead the world? How did it come to this in the first place? 82 percent of us don't even have a passport! Just a handful can speak a language other than English."

He thinks you are ignorant.

"I like America to some extent." Yeah, that's patriotic.

"There's a gullible side to the American people. They can be easily misled. Religion is the best device used to mislead them."

He thinks you are gullible. Although I disagree about religion. I think political parties are the best way.

"white people scare the crap out of me."

I don't EVEN know where to go with that statement. lol.

"Clinton was a pretty good president for a Republican."

ROFL. He really is up on American politics.

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the revolution, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow - and they will win."

'Nuff said.


Yeah!!!!
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Yeah I'm an MT. What does that
have to do with anything?  Have heard it all, can transcribe it all.  Palin gets on my last nerve....what's it to ya?
oh yeah? and just how are you going to do that?
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Oh yeah?
PFBBBLLLTTT!!!
yeah right, like her
BIL who self-admittedly tazed his own kid, and who abused his wife, etc. I applaud Sara Palin on every level including this one!
Yeah!
Laws?  We don't need no stinkin' laws. 
yeah and if...sm
they would have chosen Fox for the first interview, boy, what the outcry from the left would have been then.

They were actually quite wise to choose ABC, in my opinion. She walked into the lion's den, and came out virtually unscathed.

IMHO.
Yeah, that is what they would like you to believe...
but the last line seems to pretty much describe the democrats nowadays...a cycle of hatred and intolerance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.......
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yeah, right
I remember the last 2 elections when Barbra Streisand and Rose McDonnell said if Bush won they were leaving the country. They're both still here (darn it). Even with all the problems, you are going to be hard pressed to find anything better.
Yeah, sure you do, right
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yeah, I do, with you, lol!
blah!!
Yeah, but
At least Pelosi seems somewhat intelligent. Watching Palin talk, it is hard to believe she graduated college or even high school some days.
Yeah, unfortunately O will probably be the next
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oh yeah?
2 - 4 - 6 - 8.. who do you appreciate???

MCCAIN MCCAIN MCCAAAAAIIINNNN!!!

NO OBAMA
yeah, so what?

Why does BOND (Jessie Lee Peterson) get so little attention?  Look what the Dems did to Michael Steele (who, incidentally, is just one hot man) simply for being in the "wrong" party?  And Alan Keyes...another pariah just because they're conservative.


See a pattern here?


 


Yeah okay
please don't read them. I would hate to think I made someone go off the deep end by asking them a stinkin question.