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Bush loves terrorists..he creates them

Posted By: gt on 2005-08-24
In Reply to: Terrorists - Freedom fighter

Seems to me Bush and his ilk love terrorists, after all, by illegally invading a soverign nonthreatening country, he destabilized it and created a terrorist breeding ground..


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Bush creates executive pay loophole.

Right up until the end, Bush is working hard for his "base."  I can't wait to see this man leave -- if he leaves. 


Bush Administration created executive pay loophole







John Byrne
Published: Monday December 15, 2008



The Bush Administration inserted an eleventh-hour provision into the $750 billion bailout bill to protect executive bonuses, a single sentence that will torpedo efforts to reduce bonuses even as companies slash tens of thousands of jobs and use taxpayer money to gobble up other companies at fire-sale prices.

Pressured by constituents who worried that companies would take government aid and continue to pay their executives eye-popping bonuses, Congress inserted a provision that would penalize companies who took taxpayer money and shelled out outsized bonuses.

But at the last minute, Bush officials insisted on a one-sentence provision that stopped the measure in its tracks, according to congressional aides who spoke to the Washington Post.

The change stipulated that the sanction would only apply to firms that sold mortgage backed securities to the government at auction, which the Bush Treasury Department said would be the method they'd use to infuse troubled companies with bailout cash.

"Now, however, the small change looks more like a giant loophole, according to lawmakers and legal experts" who spoke to Post reporter Amit Paley. "In a reversal, the Bush administration has not used auctions for any of the $335 billion committed so far from the rescue package, nor does it plan to use them in the future. Lawmakers and legal experts say the change has effectively repealed the only enforcement mechanism in the law dealing with lavish pay for top executives."

"The flimsy executive-compensation restrictions in the original bill are now all but gone," Sen. Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa and ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, told Paley.

According to Paley, "The final legislation contained unprecedented restrictions on executive compensation for firms accepting money from the bailout fund. The rules limited incentives that encourage top executives to take excessive risks, provided for the recovery of bonuses based on earnings that never materialize and prohibited 'golden parachute' severance pay. But several analysts said that perhaps the most effective provision was the ban on companies deducting more than $500,000 a year from their taxable income for compensation paid to their top five executives."

This amendment to the Internal Revenue Code was the only part of the bailout measure that had an explicit enforcement mechanism.

Bush officials initially opposed executive compensation rules. Banks, in particular, had been taking heat for "golden parachute" cases, where top executives received lavish pay upon their departure even if they'd done a poor job leading their company.

It remains unclear whether the Administration ever intended to limit executive pay -- if perhaps they knew in advance that Treasury didn't intend to buy mortgage assets at auction all along -- as they'd told Congress.


Well, gee. I think Bush loves his wife too.
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Bush says terrorists are coming again. sm

Well, he should know. 


http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_says_terrorists_are_coming_again_0915.html


 


Bush was warned that terrorists were plotting to use our own planes...sm
against us. He FAILED to protect the American people. He still FAILED to find the culprits.

Clinton told them we needed to beef up security in our airports. No one would listen especially the Bush administration.

WE NEED A DEMOCRAT FOR PRESIDENT LIKE YESTERDAY!!
Evidently you forgot Bush has been releasing terrorists for some time.....

Releasing Gitmo prisoners carry risks


Andrew O. Selsky ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, January 29, 2009


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico | The re-emergence of two former Guantanamo Bay prisoners as AL Qaeda terrorists in the past week won't likely change U.S. policy on transfers to Saudi Arabia, the Pentagon says.


More than 100 Saudis have been repatriated from the U.S. military's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Saudi Arabia, where the government puts them through a rehabilitation program designed to encourage them to abandon Islamic extremism and reintegrate into civilian life.


The online boasts by two of these men that they have joined al Qaeda in Yemen underscore that the Saudi system isn't fail-safe, the Pentagon said Monday. A U.S. counterterrorism official in Washington confirmed the men had been Guantanamo detainees. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose that fact on the record.


Another two or three Saudis who had been transferred from Guantanamo cannot be located by the Saudi government, said Christopher Boucek, a researcher at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.


Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. sees the Saudi program as admirable.


"The best you can do is work with partner nations in the international community to ensure that they take the steps to mitigate the threat ex-detainees pose," he said. "There are never any absolute guarantees. There's an inherent risk in all detainee transfers and releases from Guantanamo."


The deprogramming effort -- built on reason, enticements and lengthy talks with psychiatrists, Muslim clerics and sociologists -- is part of a concerted Saudi government effort to counter the ideology that nurtured the 9/11 hijackers and that has lured hundreds of Saudis to join the Iraq insurgency. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis, as is the mastermind of the attacks, Osama bin Laden.


A total of 218 men, including former Guantanamo detainees, have gone through the reintegration program, according to the Saudi Ministry of Interior. Nine were later arrested again, an "official source" at the ministry said in a dispatch from the official Saudi Press Agency. The report said some of the nine were former detainees, but did not give a breakdown.


The Saudi Interior Ministry official said most of the graduates "resumed their natural lives and some of them voluntarily contributed to the activities of this program to help others return to natural life."


Frank Ciluffo, a researcher on security issues at George Washington University, said a program that doesn't work all the time is better than none because the alternative is an extended prison sentence, which only further radicalizes a person.


Of course, an economy that CREATES jobs, instead
just take care of a lot of that welfare abuse. There should be more OPPORTUNITIES, and fewer loopholes.
my God loves you, my God loves me
ALL is in divine and perfect order
God loves McCain too.
Get it? God loves us all. No one more than the other.
No one who loves Obama ever wants to believe
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I do not understand it. I think he just loves
the campaigning last year. He never makes sense to me. He just talks and talks with lots of prepositions and adjectives, but never makes it real clear as to what he is doing. Nothing new to me, just the same old blah, blah, blah. A lot of what he says is what McCain used to say. Talk about a president putting major fear in you!

In fact, he scares me to death.

Also, I just do not think this stimulus is going to work. Think about it. If you were in debt? Would you actually keep spending and spending and going into more debt? Then you borrow money from family and friends and guess what? You are still in debt plus now more in debt because you owe money to your friends and family! Now you want to borrow money from your children and get more into debt. Then what? You basically go bankrupt. Isn't that what we are doing with this country and giving the debt for our children?

Shouldn't we make cuts here and there to try not to go more into debt? Need to save in case of future disasters and repairs? Instead of spending and spending. I thought Bush liked to do that!

I see the great depression coming with inflation raising its ugly head. I betcha a gallon of milk will cost 8.00 for half a gallon.
I cannot say about Franken....and whether he loves the country or not...
but to say Michael Moore cares deeply about this country is ridiculous. One has only to listen to what he says. He holds this country in contempt.

Ann Coulter makes juvenile insults...okay fine. Franken makes bigoted hateful insults...especially about gays. Pot calling kettle black, big time. If Ann Coulter was on your side of the fence making juvenile insults about Republicans you would be lauding her as well. Kinda transparent...and extreme partisan. I condemned them all...you condemned only the Republican. That speaks for itself.
Oregon loves Obama!
Wow, did you see the headline about Obama in Oregon?  His rally had 65,000 yesterday with another 15,000 who couldn't fit in, plus more on boats watching from the water.  That must have been something!  Here's to hoping for a big margin for Obama in Oregon tomorrow and in November!
Refreshing to see he loves his wife, and isn't
And it's about time, too. Out with the old, and in with the new!

YAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
You know what they say . . . misery loves company!!
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She loves genocide, if it's done in the *right* place and to the *right* people.

Her love and kindness for her fellow man certainly shows in her comments on Oklahoma City.


My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.


--Ann Coulter as quoted in the New York Observer, Aug. 20, 2002


RE: McVeigh quote. Of course I regret it. I should have added, 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and reporters.'


--Ann Coulter, from an interview with Right Wing News


And Israel loves those suicide bombers.
Your posts are disquieting. Why do you defend Hezbollah?
Another liberal who loves every living thing...
as long as it is not a conservative and agrees with everything they say. Moderator says we can post on either board. I would hate to be so closed-minded I tried to run off anyone who disagreed with me. Good grief. Did this turn into Venezuela overnight?
You hit that right on, BB. Talk about misery loves company!!

And the stock market LOVES it while Boy Wonder flits around!
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Obama couldn't do that........ he loves to smoke!!!
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Double standard is right... and loves to call other
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Who cares if he has family values and loves this country!

Calypso Louie Loves Hussain Obama
This should scare the holy hanna out of anyone who votes here:

Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan is very closely aligned to this man.

Remember, this man hates gays, hates whites, etc. If that's not keeping some really questionable company, go ahead and put the blindfold on and vote for a Democrat.


Wall Street loves the new president....ouch! nm
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Wall Street loves the new president....ouch! nm
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Terrorists

Why in hell would I want to convey anything to terrorists but stay hell out of our country or they will die?  You, on the other hand want them to like us....I couldn't give a rat's behind what terrorists think about us except that they know we will kick their asses all the way to the meeting with virgins they want so desperately to get their hands on.


If you want to stick flowers in their guns go ahead.  I would like to stand back and watch that.


 


Besides, since when do we let terrorists
decide who is going to be our next President? Are we so insane that we let a suspect endorsement by a terrorist organization sway our votes one way or another? OMG! I honestly can't believe this! I'm wondering what the people in the Twin Towers or the people on those planes on 9/11 (especially the ones that fought the hijackers) would think about their country now? Makes me sad to think that there are people who would cowtow to terrorist organizations. We should really all know better than that.
We will never have terrorists

under control per se, but at least we can give power back to the Muslims who don't want us dead.  The more control the terrorists have and the bigger area they have to work in....the more of a threat they are to us.  That is what this war means to me. 


As for Obama....he himself has ridiculed this war and yet states that he will find Osama Bin Laden.  Is he not raging war here?  Obama himself has said that he will not take military force off of the table.  Who is to say that Obama won't pull us out of Iraq and sent us to Pakistan to rage war there.  We can't fight terrorists in Iraq because that is wasteful and wrong, but Obama wants to go to Pakistan and hunt down terrorists....same thing isn't it.  Talk about double standards.


He is going to be spending all this money with no funding and says he will save money ending this war but it sounds to me like he could be starting a war elsewhere and then what money will he use to fund his programs.....TAXES....TAXES.....TAXES.........ON EVERYONE!!!  Including the middle class that he now supposedly is looking after even though he voted before to raise taxes on us middle folks.  Nothing but rhetoric to get in the office. 


You mean terrorists,
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Well when terrorists...

and yes I dared to use the word TERRORISTS....strike us again on US soil....what will happen to us then?  Will Obama go after them and strike back or will the US turn the other cheek to be struck again?  If Obama goes after them and no other country backs us.....what will you say then? 


The reason these leaders like Obama is because they see weakness.  They see an opportunity for the US to fall and they are all chomping at the bit.


North Korea is still talking of launching their missile but hey....I guess since it can hit Alaska that is okay because maybe they will get Palin....huh?  One less pub to worry about.


China says they hate us and blame us for the global economy issues and they are using all the money they get from our country to build up their defense.


The Taliban have already said they are planning a strike on Washington.  Right there is a warning.  So if the Taliban succeed....are ya'll gonna give Obama crap too for not stopping it like you did W. for 9/11 since they had "warnings."


Once again, the die hard party liners here refuse to see the mistakes in their own political party and all they can do is point the finger at the other political party.....which is why I'm an independent. 


You all can go on and on about Bushy's war in Iraq but the botton line is this....would you prefer that terrorists still have control of that area?  Would you prefer that the woman in that region be beaten by the taliban for talking to a man or not wearing the appropriate attire.  Regardless of why we went there or not....we helped the Iraqi's.  Yes we tortured to get information that would save people's lives while they captured our people and beheaded them.....yet we are the bad guys.   Their whole purpose of existence is to wipe us out.  They want us DEAD and now we can't even call them terrorists....are you kidding me?


Seriously.....what is your solution to this problem?  Talking to terrorists who want us dead and have no problem blowing themselves up at the same time isn't going to work.  The brutal beating of woman just because they exist and are inferior to men......and yet you never hear women's rights group protesting THAT. 


But hey.....we have our warning from the Taliban and Obama is cutting money from defense.......makes sense.....doesn't it?  I guess the only ones it makes sense too are the MSNBC watching, kool-aid drinking, far-left liberals who swoon everytime Obamanation reads from the teleprompter.


How many terrorists

have died being waterboarded?  How many terrorists have we brutally tortured to where they have begged for death?  How many terrorists have had their head cut off at Gitmo?


It isn't like these acts are done merely for entertainment purposes.  They were used to get information out of known terrorists.  It was done in an attempt to save lives.  It wasn't done in an attempt to destroy lives.  All terrorists want to do is destroy us.


As for the treatment at Gitmo, they have it better than prisoners here in the US have it.  They get reading material, food, clean clothes, etc.  Of all the terrorists at Gitmo....how many were waterboarded?  2-3?  Oh my.  It isn't like we have waterboarded each and every terrorist and the ones we did waterboard were done because they were high up in the ranks that they would more than likely know more information/plans, etc. 


As for my religious beliefs....I would much rather do what has to be done in order to keep our country, families, children, parents, etc. safe than to cuddle people who hate us and wish nothing upon us but death.


This shows you exactly how much you know about the terrorists. sm
And THAT has been the worst part about all this.  Bush hatred has not only fried you to crispy critters, it has made you dangerously ignorant. 
you are the ones helping the terrorists
It is Bush and you and people who think like you who have put us at risk.  We now have a full fledged terrorist state/breeding ground in Iraq because of Bush's war..That has put us at great risk for decades to come.  Before Bush invaded, we had a few radicals that if we kept our focus we could have hunted down in Afghanistan and eliminated.  Instead Bush invaded Iraq for no go reason other than to have a presence in the Middle East for control of the Middle East.  Where is bin Laden?  Why are we fighting in Iraq?  Why are we there?  The real murderer is somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan.  Yet, you people continue to back this war when there is no logical good reason to have entered into it or to stay there.  You and your man Bush are helping the terrorists, you have given them every reason to continue to multiply and hate us even more.  You are throwing oil on fire.  I want to put out the fire.
How many terrorists attacks have we had since 911
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Christian Terrorists
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism by groups or individuals, the motivation of which is typically rooted in an idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible and other Christian tenets of faith. From the viewpoint of the terrorist, Christian scripture and theology provide justification for violent political activities.

Abortion clinics have been frequent targets of violence. Christian anti-abortion terrorists and terrorist organizations include the Army of God, The Lambs of Christ, Clayton Waagner, Mike Bray, James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill and Eric Robert Rudolph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism


Exactly. Just like not all Muslims are terrorists. nm
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I am sure that we all know that not all Muslims are terrorists.
Why is that anyone who does not support Obama is automatically a bigot who hates everyone who is not a white Christian? And then I am called narrow minded--interesting!
But it's okay for terrorists to tortue,

maime (sp), and kill innocent men, women, children, news people, and our servicemen? I don't think so.


Give it up. Ain't worth it. Concentrate on more pressing issues as the above poster said.


O said nothing about negotiating with terrorists.
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Must have been palling around with terrorists
hahahahahaha
So, we are no better than terrorists? That answer
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We waterboarded known terrorists, not just
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Terrorists are not covered under
The Geneva Convention.  I don't know how many times I have to repeat that tid bit of information to you people.  What our government did was in an attempt to keep Americans safe and yet all you want is Bush and Cheney's head on a platter no matter what extra danger that might put our troops in.
Terrorists are not covered under
the Geneva Convention.
So you want to send a message to the terrorists.....
That Americans are all a bunch of corrupt liars who go unchecked and unpunished?  I think that if you truly wanted to protect the American people that you would want dishonesty and corruption investigated.  Guess not.
I don't think the terrorists will knock at our doors..

..and announce themselves as terrorists so we can shoot them.  Iraq, London and 9/11 would teach us that they are much smarter and more covert than that.  Besides, when the London bobbies waved their guns around they ended up killing a Brazilian electrician (I think it was Brazil).


I don't spend my days worrying about what if a terrorist shows up at my house.  There really are too many other things in my life that are genuine to wonder about implausible situations such as the one you describe.


That's exactly right!! The terrorists seem to utilize the "unexpected" rather than
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Speaking of muslim terrorists
tell me, if Bush is such a great leader how come he has not gotten Bin Laden..remember him? the planner of 09/11? I think you have forgotten 09/11. Oh and imagine if Bush and the administration had actually paid some attention to the memos coming across their desks, you know, the ones about how bin laden was goingto use airplanes to attack etc..maybe just maybe, 09/11 wouldnt have happened at all.
That might have worked, if all the terrorists were in Afghanistan. nm
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There were no terrorists in Iraq... Saddam would not have
allowed anyone other than himself to be the terror!  He would have had their heads if they were amassing there as he had TOTAL control of who and what was in his country. He also kept his peoples: the Sunis, the Shiites, and the Kurds on track. He would have never let a civil war happen.  As stated, he had total control, now we have unleashed, and helped to create more, infidels.
You should be happy, the terrorists love you.
They are praying to Allah that Democrats will win in this election.  Democrats believe in immediate withdrawal from Iraq. If they succeed in forcing us to leave under these circumstances, the United States will suffer a stinging defeat in the war on terror. The terrorists already believe that they drove the Russians from Afghanistan and Israel from Lebanon and Gaza. They are convinced they chased us out of Lebanon in 1983 and from Somalia in 1993. According to Osama bin Laden and those who share his views, we are militarily strong but psychologically and spiritually weak. Like it or not—and no one likes it—we cannot leave Iraq now without utterly and decisively validating this analysis. We might as well run a white flag up the flagpole at the Capitol.  But then, that would probably be fine with the left, too.