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Bush says terrorists are coming again. sm

Posted By: LVMT on 2006-09-15
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Well, he should know. 


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Bush loves terrorists..he creates them
Seems to me Bush and his ilk love terrorists, after all, by illegally invading a soverign nonthreatening country, he destabilized it and created a terrorist breeding ground..
Bush was warned that terrorists were plotting to use our own planes...sm
against us. He FAILED to protect the American people. He still FAILED to find the culprits.

Clinton told them we needed to beef up security in our airports. No one would listen especially the Bush administration.

WE NEED A DEMOCRAT FOR PRESIDENT LIKE YESTERDAY!!
Evidently you forgot Bush has been releasing terrorists for some time.....

Releasing Gitmo prisoners carry risks


Andrew O. Selsky ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, January 29, 2009


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico | The re-emergence of two former Guantanamo Bay prisoners as AL Qaeda terrorists in the past week won't likely change U.S. policy on transfers to Saudi Arabia, the Pentagon says.


More than 100 Saudis have been repatriated from the U.S. military's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Saudi Arabia, where the government puts them through a rehabilitation program designed to encourage them to abandon Islamic extremism and reintegrate into civilian life.


The online boasts by two of these men that they have joined al Qaeda in Yemen underscore that the Saudi system isn't fail-safe, the Pentagon said Monday. A U.S. counterterrorism official in Washington confirmed the men had been Guantanamo detainees. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose that fact on the record.


Another two or three Saudis who had been transferred from Guantanamo cannot be located by the Saudi government, said Christopher Boucek, a researcher at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.


Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. sees the Saudi program as admirable.


"The best you can do is work with partner nations in the international community to ensure that they take the steps to mitigate the threat ex-detainees pose," he said. "There are never any absolute guarantees. There's an inherent risk in all detainee transfers and releases from Guantanamo."


The deprogramming effort -- built on reason, enticements and lengthy talks with psychiatrists, Muslim clerics and sociologists -- is part of a concerted Saudi government effort to counter the ideology that nurtured the 9/11 hijackers and that has lured hundreds of Saudis to join the Iraq insurgency. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis, as is the mastermind of the attacks, Osama bin Laden.


A total of 218 men, including former Guantanamo detainees, have gone through the reintegration program, according to the Saudi Ministry of Interior. Nine were later arrested again, an "official source" at the ministry said in a dispatch from the official Saudi Press Agency. The report said some of the nine were former detainees, but did not give a breakdown.


The Saudi Interior Ministry official said most of the graduates "resumed their natural lives and some of them voluntarily contributed to the activities of this program to help others return to natural life."


Frank Ciluffo, a researcher on security issues at George Washington University, said a program that doesn't work all the time is better than none because the alternative is an extended prison sentence, which only further radicalizes a person.


This crises was coming way before Bush

While I'm sick of it too the oil situation has been coming to a head for a long time.  A good part of it is due to the fact that the environmentalists have blocked the building of new refineries and have blocked drilling in the desolate wasteland of ANWR which is projected to have billions of barrels of oil.   The sole responsibility of our current gas prices is not due to the war but due to multiple factors which have not been addressed over the last several years, and the blatant blocking tactics of environmentalists.


Terrorists

Why in hell would I want to convey anything to terrorists but stay hell out of our country or they will die?  You, on the other hand want them to like us....I couldn't give a rat's behind what terrorists think about us except that they know we will kick their asses all the way to the meeting with virgins they want so desperately to get their hands on.


If you want to stick flowers in their guns go ahead.  I would like to stand back and watch that.


 


Besides, since when do we let terrorists
decide who is going to be our next President? Are we so insane that we let a suspect endorsement by a terrorist organization sway our votes one way or another? OMG! I honestly can't believe this! I'm wondering what the people in the Twin Towers or the people on those planes on 9/11 (especially the ones that fought the hijackers) would think about their country now? Makes me sad to think that there are people who would cowtow to terrorist organizations. We should really all know better than that.
We will never have terrorists

under control per se, but at least we can give power back to the Muslims who don't want us dead.  The more control the terrorists have and the bigger area they have to work in....the more of a threat they are to us.  That is what this war means to me. 


As for Obama....he himself has ridiculed this war and yet states that he will find Osama Bin Laden.  Is he not raging war here?  Obama himself has said that he will not take military force off of the table.  Who is to say that Obama won't pull us out of Iraq and sent us to Pakistan to rage war there.  We can't fight terrorists in Iraq because that is wasteful and wrong, but Obama wants to go to Pakistan and hunt down terrorists....same thing isn't it.  Talk about double standards.


He is going to be spending all this money with no funding and says he will save money ending this war but it sounds to me like he could be starting a war elsewhere and then what money will he use to fund his programs.....TAXES....TAXES.....TAXES.........ON EVERYONE!!!  Including the middle class that he now supposedly is looking after even though he voted before to raise taxes on us middle folks.  Nothing but rhetoric to get in the office. 


You mean terrorists,
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Well when terrorists...

and yes I dared to use the word TERRORISTS....strike us again on US soil....what will happen to us then?  Will Obama go after them and strike back or will the US turn the other cheek to be struck again?  If Obama goes after them and no other country backs us.....what will you say then? 


The reason these leaders like Obama is because they see weakness.  They see an opportunity for the US to fall and they are all chomping at the bit.


North Korea is still talking of launching their missile but hey....I guess since it can hit Alaska that is okay because maybe they will get Palin....huh?  One less pub to worry about.


China says they hate us and blame us for the global economy issues and they are using all the money they get from our country to build up their defense.


The Taliban have already said they are planning a strike on Washington.  Right there is a warning.  So if the Taliban succeed....are ya'll gonna give Obama crap too for not stopping it like you did W. for 9/11 since they had "warnings."


Once again, the die hard party liners here refuse to see the mistakes in their own political party and all they can do is point the finger at the other political party.....which is why I'm an independent. 


You all can go on and on about Bushy's war in Iraq but the botton line is this....would you prefer that terrorists still have control of that area?  Would you prefer that the woman in that region be beaten by the taliban for talking to a man or not wearing the appropriate attire.  Regardless of why we went there or not....we helped the Iraqi's.  Yes we tortured to get information that would save people's lives while they captured our people and beheaded them.....yet we are the bad guys.   Their whole purpose of existence is to wipe us out.  They want us DEAD and now we can't even call them terrorists....are you kidding me?


Seriously.....what is your solution to this problem?  Talking to terrorists who want us dead and have no problem blowing themselves up at the same time isn't going to work.  The brutal beating of woman just because they exist and are inferior to men......and yet you never hear women's rights group protesting THAT. 


But hey.....we have our warning from the Taliban and Obama is cutting money from defense.......makes sense.....doesn't it?  I guess the only ones it makes sense too are the MSNBC watching, kool-aid drinking, far-left liberals who swoon everytime Obamanation reads from the teleprompter.


How many terrorists

have died being waterboarded?  How many terrorists have we brutally tortured to where they have begged for death?  How many terrorists have had their head cut off at Gitmo?


It isn't like these acts are done merely for entertainment purposes.  They were used to get information out of known terrorists.  It was done in an attempt to save lives.  It wasn't done in an attempt to destroy lives.  All terrorists want to do is destroy us.


As for the treatment at Gitmo, they have it better than prisoners here in the US have it.  They get reading material, food, clean clothes, etc.  Of all the terrorists at Gitmo....how many were waterboarded?  2-3?  Oh my.  It isn't like we have waterboarded each and every terrorist and the ones we did waterboard were done because they were high up in the ranks that they would more than likely know more information/plans, etc. 


As for my religious beliefs....I would much rather do what has to be done in order to keep our country, families, children, parents, etc. safe than to cuddle people who hate us and wish nothing upon us but death.


This shows you exactly how much you know about the terrorists. sm
And THAT has been the worst part about all this.  Bush hatred has not only fried you to crispy critters, it has made you dangerously ignorant. 
you are the ones helping the terrorists
It is Bush and you and people who think like you who have put us at risk.  We now have a full fledged terrorist state/breeding ground in Iraq because of Bush's war..That has put us at great risk for decades to come.  Before Bush invaded, we had a few radicals that if we kept our focus we could have hunted down in Afghanistan and eliminated.  Instead Bush invaded Iraq for no go reason other than to have a presence in the Middle East for control of the Middle East.  Where is bin Laden?  Why are we fighting in Iraq?  Why are we there?  The real murderer is somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan.  Yet, you people continue to back this war when there is no logical good reason to have entered into it or to stay there.  You and your man Bush are helping the terrorists, you have given them every reason to continue to multiply and hate us even more.  You are throwing oil on fire.  I want to put out the fire.
How many terrorists attacks have we had since 911
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Christian Terrorists
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism by groups or individuals, the motivation of which is typically rooted in an idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible and other Christian tenets of faith. From the viewpoint of the terrorist, Christian scripture and theology provide justification for violent political activities.

Abortion clinics have been frequent targets of violence. Christian anti-abortion terrorists and terrorist organizations include the Army of God, The Lambs of Christ, Clayton Waagner, Mike Bray, James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill and Eric Robert Rudolph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism


Exactly. Just like not all Muslims are terrorists. nm
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I am sure that we all know that not all Muslims are terrorists.
Why is that anyone who does not support Obama is automatically a bigot who hates everyone who is not a white Christian? And then I am called narrow minded--interesting!
But it's okay for terrorists to tortue,

maime (sp), and kill innocent men, women, children, news people, and our servicemen? I don't think so.


Give it up. Ain't worth it. Concentrate on more pressing issues as the above poster said.


O said nothing about negotiating with terrorists.
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Must have been palling around with terrorists
hahahahahaha
So, we are no better than terrorists? That answer
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We waterboarded known terrorists, not just
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Terrorists are not covered under
The Geneva Convention.  I don't know how many times I have to repeat that tid bit of information to you people.  What our government did was in an attempt to keep Americans safe and yet all you want is Bush and Cheney's head on a platter no matter what extra danger that might put our troops in.
Terrorists are not covered under
the Geneva Convention.
So you want to send a message to the terrorists.....
That Americans are all a bunch of corrupt liars who go unchecked and unpunished?  I think that if you truly wanted to protect the American people that you would want dishonesty and corruption investigated.  Guess not.
I don't think the terrorists will knock at our doors..

..and announce themselves as terrorists so we can shoot them.  Iraq, London and 9/11 would teach us that they are much smarter and more covert than that.  Besides, when the London bobbies waved their guns around they ended up killing a Brazilian electrician (I think it was Brazil).


I don't spend my days worrying about what if a terrorist shows up at my house.  There really are too many other things in my life that are genuine to wonder about implausible situations such as the one you describe.


That's exactly right!! The terrorists seem to utilize the "unexpected" rather than
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Speaking of muslim terrorists
tell me, if Bush is such a great leader how come he has not gotten Bin Laden..remember him? the planner of 09/11? I think you have forgotten 09/11. Oh and imagine if Bush and the administration had actually paid some attention to the memos coming across their desks, you know, the ones about how bin laden was goingto use airplanes to attack etc..maybe just maybe, 09/11 wouldnt have happened at all.
That might have worked, if all the terrorists were in Afghanistan. nm
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There were no terrorists in Iraq... Saddam would not have
allowed anyone other than himself to be the terror!  He would have had their heads if they were amassing there as he had TOTAL control of who and what was in his country. He also kept his peoples: the Sunis, the Shiites, and the Kurds on track. He would have never let a civil war happen.  As stated, he had total control, now we have unleashed, and helped to create more, infidels.
You should be happy, the terrorists love you.
They are praying to Allah that Democrats will win in this election.  Democrats believe in immediate withdrawal from Iraq. If they succeed in forcing us to leave under these circumstances, the United States will suffer a stinging defeat in the war on terror. The terrorists already believe that they drove the Russians from Afghanistan and Israel from Lebanon and Gaza. They are convinced they chased us out of Lebanon in 1983 and from Somalia in 1993. According to Osama bin Laden and those who share his views, we are militarily strong but psychologically and spiritually weak. Like it or not—and no one likes it—we cannot leave Iraq now without utterly and decisively validating this analysis. We might as well run a white flag up the flagpole at the Capitol.  But then, that would probably be fine with the left, too. 
The fact that you think you can negotiate with terrorists....
shows you don't have a grasp of the threat. THEY scoff at diplomacy.

Look at history if you please. Europe loves America at will...when they need us, they love us. WHen they don't, they view us with disdain. If two World Wars have not taught you that, me repeating it here will not help.

And if they yell help again, we will be there, because that is what we do, because we are America. In the mean time, I could not care less if the average German is in love with Barack Obama. When the chips are down for US, they run like scalded dogs. But let them get in a crack, and who do they yell for? It ain't the UN and NATO. THAT is the real world.
Obama does not want to negotiate with terrorists.
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At least they're not Muslim terrorists
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Aah, don't get stuck on color here.... Terrorists
they have been home grown right here in this country.....Ayers, Dohrn, just to name a couple. You know, Obama's pals that his supporters keep hearing the news media they get their info from tell everyone how he hasn't had any dealings with these two or the corrupt white multi-millionnaire realtor he has many associations with AND bought his 1.6 million dollar home from at a STEAL!

His name is Muslim. You want to pretend it's not? Now, that alone is not the issue...his Islamic relationship with terrorists in terrorist countries is the problem, of which you want to ignore. His Islamic teachings is also an issue, of which you also choose to ignore. His own family members say he is Muslim through and through. They say he is NOT a Christian, but of course, you know more than they I'm sure.


Terrorists arrived there AFTER our brilliant
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The quote "hanging around with terrorists"

came from Sarah Palin.  She got the ball rolling on attacking Obama's credibility.  Actually she said Obama "palls around with terrorists." Then the McCain/Palin camp started in with the Ayer's subject, trying to dig up dirt on Obama.  That is pretty much all they have done throughout the campaign is sling mudd.  Obviously the American people are intelligent and not gullible because the majority are casting their votes for Obama.


May the better man win and that man is Obama. 


Obama bringing terrorists to the US?
The president-elect's advisers QUIETLY craft a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials.

Under plans being put together in Obama's camp, some detainees would be released and many others would be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts.

Sorry, but I want my tax dollars and priority to focus more on our economy, jobs, war, health care, then bringing terrorists to our country for court. Not a priority on my list. What is he up to, bringing terrorists to the US? Afraid to find out.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/10/obama-planning-trials-guantanamo-detainees/
I agree. It was the TERRORISTS who decided...

...to attack on 9/11.  Likewise, it will be the TERRORISTS who will decide when and how to attack again.


I don't believe this has anything to do with WHO the President is, so while Bush shouldn't take the blame, he also shouldn't claim the credit for what the TERRORISTS HAVEN'T done.  It's the timetable of the TERRORISTS that controls what does or doesn't happen.


The Republicans felt that another terror attack would be helpful to McCain's campaign (they came out and said so).  I don't recall any Democrat uttering anything so UGLY in regards to Obama.


Kept us 'safe' from terrorists for 7 years?
I'll betcha that if he'd never been elected in 2000, that 9/11 would never have happened in 2001.

Yeah, we were plenty safe, alright.
Do you know how long the terrorists were planning that?
That was their second attack on the towers.

The first time, they rented a truck and tried to knock the towers down by detonating it in the underground parking garage.
When that failed, they regrouped, formed another plan, and meticulously set it in motion. Took years, but they accomplished their objectives, save for that heroic United flight.

The problem with Americans is that they have very short attention spans. They think if the war's not over in 2 or 3 years, it's 'old news' and they move on. If it's not on their TV screens every night, with flashing lights and music like an MTV video, they can't process the information. Out of sight, out of mind. Like the victims of 911 and the noble men and women fighting the war on terror. All forgotten, for the most part, by an impatient, clock-watching public.

Terrorists, on the other hand, know a little something about watching and waiting. In a religious war like they're fighting, time is measured in centuries.

So, I'm sorry, but your little theory just doesn't hold water, and was naive in the extreme.

The simple truth is that there has not been another attack on US soil since Bush has been in office.

Why don't you try to sound just a teensy bit thankful that your hide is safe, and not in a foxhole somewhere, or digging out of the rubble of a bombed-out apartment complex? A little dose of humility, and reality, goes a long way.
Good question. Why don't you ask the terrorists
Having witnessed public beheadings in an Iraqi soccer stadium, I'd say your heart is soft for the wrong folks, JTBB.

I'm kind of happy for you, though, because you seem to have no idea of the sort of things that went on in that country before the liberation. Your mind would probably explode.
Fine, YOU can have the terrorists live
Maybe he will move them to Chicago.
Terrorists...human rights...sm

I don't think the terrorists were too worried about the human rights of the 9-11 victims.


Moderate Muslims are not terrorists.
I find it interesting that you twisted President Obama's words from "winning over moderate Muslims" to "winning over terrorists." How very "pro-American" of you!
Don't forget most of the terrorists of 911 were Saudis.......
Who is rich enough to put a run on our banks? $550 billion in 2 hours' time of electronic transfers? Pretty smart move to cause our collapse, wasn't it. I would call that terrorism, wouldn't you? It was also pretty smart to use our own airlines to bomb our country.......but we stick our thumbs up our a$$e$ and invade Iraq......for oil we never got......makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
What makes you so sure they WEREN'T terrorists?
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HELLO? We don't do what the terrorists do. That's precisely why they're
Cold rooms? Sleep deprivation? Rock music? A caterpillar? If you imagine that these are the methods used by terrorists, you absolutely have to be the single most uninformed person anywhere in the universe, including if there are 3 million earths somewhere out there, exactly like this one.
Awwww...poor terrorists.

We should cuddle them and give them all teddy bears so they don't get scared in their cells at night.


Once again, terrorists do no fall under the Geneva Convention as they are ......uh.....terrorists.  I am so sick and tired of this BS and the crying and whining of the treatment of terrorists especially when they want us all dead. 


Of course it's the fault of the terrorists for carrying out attacks.

And it's the fault of this president for obsessing about Saddam Hussein (since he's been doing since the early 1990s) and not doing enough to protect his own people from future attacks.


The terrorists have all the power here.  They're holding all the cards.  They once again managed to scare a large part of the world.  They also know something that American soldiers DON'T know.  The know what the outcome of their plan is going to be.  They use the element of surprise, and when they wake up in the morning, they don't wonder if they're still going to be alive the next day.  They already KNOW they won't be because they've planned it that way.  They control their own fate, as well as the fate of everyone who gets in their way.


Our soldiers have to deal with that every single day.  A car bomb here.  A suicide bomber there.  Every single day is 9/11 for them.  It sounds real nice to pretend to respect and honor them when participating in a photo op on an aircraft carrier.  Why doesn't he care enough about their lives to provide adequate body armor and Humvees for them?  He has no problem giving big tax breaks to his rich base (and YES, they are his REAL base, not the Christian right; just wait till he betrays you all with his moderate Supreme Court nominees). He has no problem giving free healthcare to all Iraqis. Forget about the American people for a minute. Why can't he care about our troops -- our CHILDREN -- enough to supply them with adequate equipment?  Of course, he personally would not know what constitutes adequate equipment because HE WAS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO EVER SERVE IN COMBAT.


As far as giving this President too much credit, you obviously didn't comprehend one word of my post.


HELLO!


War is a Partisan Decision (and more on amnesty for terrorists)

Now here's an honest Republican.  Very refreshing!






URL: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/state/article/0,1406,KNS_348_4781865,00.html
Duncan: War is a partisan decision


Knox Republican opposed successful GOP bill aimed at testing Democrats




WASHINGTON - War should not be a partisan decision by Congress, but it generally appears to have become that, Knoxville Rep. John J. Duncan Jr., a war opponent, said on the House floor Friday.

I believe 80 percent of Republicans would have opposed the war in Iraq if it had been started by President (Bill) Clinton or (Al) Gore, and probably almost all the Democrats would have been supporting it, as they did the bombings in Bosnia and Kosovo (during the Clinton administration), Duncan said.

Under Democrat Clinton's presidency, when he planned bombings in Bosnia and Kosovo, 80 percent of Republicans, including Duncan, opposed it, Duncan noted.

In a vote Friday, Duncan was the only Tennessee Republican and one of just three Republicans nationally to oppose a Republican-drafted bill aimed at questioning Democrats' commitment to national security several months before the November general election. It passed 256-153. Democrats voted 149-42 against it, and one Independent opposed it.

The nonbinding legislation refused to set any dates for changing troop strength in Iraq, labeled the Iraq war part of the global war on terrorism, and praised U.S. troops' sacrifice in Iraq.

Duncan, one of the most conservative House members, said everyone supports the troops. It is certainly no criticism of them to criticize this war, he said. I am steadfastly opposed to this war, and I have been since the beginning. We need to start putting our own people first once again and bring our troops home - the sooner the better.

Two other Tennessee members opposed the resolution: Democrats Harold Ford Jr. of Memphis and John Tanner of Union City.

Voting in favor were Republicans Bill Jenkins of Rogersville, Zach Wamp of Chattanooga, and Marsha Blackburn of Brentwood; and Democrats Lincoln Davis of Pall Mall, Jim Cooper of Nashville, and Bart Gordon of Murfreesboro.

Ford and Tanner said they strongly support the troops. But they noted that current Iraqi government leaders reportedly are considering granting amnesty to Iraqis who killed U.S. troops as acts of resistance and defense of their homeland. They cannot support a government that would grant such amnesty, Ford and Tanner said in written statements.

Ford, a U.S. Senate candidate, called the Republican resolution a gimmick that fails to recognize that 'stay the course' is not working and that amnesty for terrorists is unforgivable.

Tennessee supporters generally said they wanted to demonstrate confidence in U.S. troops in Iraq.

Premature withdrawal is not an option, Wamp said in a recorded statement. It's an effective surrender. It's important that we stand firm and that we finish what we started and that the world sees that we're going to honor our commitments to the people of Iraq and the people of the Middle East.

Davis, the only Democrat serving part of East Tennessee, accused Republican leaders of using the legislation as a political tool to try to make Democrats look sheepish. In a written statement, he said he has visited Iraq four times to show the troops that Congress supports their work.

But Davis said federal officials now should focus on how we stabilize the country ... and how we get our troops home safe as soon as possible.

Richard Powelson may be reached at 202-408-2727.


Maybe, but with most terrorists wanting to see Barack elected, that
Wonder why they want him elected so much?