Chele, do you mean left?
Posted By: sm on 2008-09-05
In Reply to: How dare you! - Chele
I think it tends to lean left.
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chele is sam
there - obsess on that endlessly rather than think about the greatest danger since the Great Depression looming over our heads.
is Mr. Chele an
MT also or did you just add his name to shore up your cred?
Ah Chele, I like you but
I have to disagree with you again. Remember George H.W.? "Read my lips, no new taxes?" Of course he'll raise taxes on the middle class and so will McCain. Politicians are notorious liars, I just can't believe anyone believes anything either one of them says.
Thank you, Chele
Thank you for this very insightful and moving post. It is the first one I have seen on this board that is not trying to bash another side. I agree with you 100% - they ALL need to be watched very carefully and put under the microscope.
I wish we could have more discussions about the real issues - how these things effect us. There is nothing we can do about what is happening in Washington, but we COULD come here and discuss things intelligently and respectfully.
Thank you for a very intelligent (and UNbashing post). You have certainly brightened my day. 
Thank you Chele!!!!! -
I don't know how many times I have been saying it but the liberals don't want to hear it. They think that every single democratic politician is perfect and makes no mistakes, and they demonize every republican politician. I've been saying over and over and over there are good and bad democrats and there are good and bad republicans, but they don't want to hear it. They just keep whining. Which gets quite old. They wanted Bush gone, he's gone, but they have to keep whining about Bush. I have no idea what their problem is because Bush is gone, Obama's ratings are dropping and their still blaming it on Bush. Obama talks, the stock market drops and they blame it on Bush. Pelosi speaks the market tanks and they blame it on Bush. I also read one poster on this site who has already stated that no matter what Obama does if he doesn't do anything good for the country it will still be Bush's fault. So I'm wondering next election if Obama loses to a different republican will that be Bush's fault too? Anyway...you are 100% correct. Both parties are crooked with a capital C. You are also 100% right on when you said when the dems had control of congress they didn't do anything positive for the economy.
Hi Chele....I am getting that it is no longer available...
any other way to get there? Thanks!
I can't speak for Chele
but I am not against the poor. I am against keeping me down until the poor catch up. I would probably be considered low income as my husband and I brought in $24,000 last year between the both of us. But you know what? I have taken a second job this year, and he finished his degree and graduated. We are WORKING towards bettering ourselves. Not waiting on someone to come by and say "hey, here's a check for being poor."
Most people that are poor are so because of what they have or haven't done. Yes, there are some people who legitimately have bad luck and can't ever get out of the hole. But more often than not, it's the bad choices they made, the drugs they did, the school they dropped out of, etc. Most "poor people" are able-bodied individuals who could go get a job and start to work their way up out of the hole. But they give up, pop out ten babies, and let the government take care of them. I mean it's a sweet deal isn't it?
What makes me sick is driving by the project 8 low income housing in my area and seeing these folks who only pay $60 a month in rent yet they have BMWs and Yukons and all these nice brand new vehicles parked out front.
But, by all means, please lets continue to "take care" of them.
Yes, those people who are rich by illegal means should be taken down. But those who have worked their butts off to get to the top are not evil. They shouldn't be punished for achieving what you couldn't. More than likely you could if you wanted to.
Yes, I am an MT. I enjoy this job, but I want to do something more with my life. Therefore I will work two jobs and take classes online until I can get my degree. Is it going to suck for awhile? Oh yeah. But you know what? In the end, when I have that degree, and I'm one of those comfortable "rich" people you hate so much, I'll be able to look back and know that I got there on my own. I didn't climb up anyone's back or grab onto their coattails to get there.
No one is against the poor. Those who are legitimately in the dumps and need a hand should get it. But only to get on their feet. Then they need to get out and work just like the rest of us!
STOP THE HANDOUTS!
just wait, Chele, until they get all our
guns. I think the UN troops will do that, door to door, along with whatever else some guy might see while he is in your home, like your 12 year old daughter or your antique jewelry left by your grandmother. These people over here just don't realize what is coming. So sad, the late, great America.
I echo Chele...s/m
I agree with everything you said. Yes, I am for the death penalty and please don't bother trying to tell me that I said I was against abortion. Two VERY separate issues..
I most certainly agree that an appropriate punishment for a child molester is amputation of the tallywhacker!
Right, Chele. They are brainwashed. It is so sad
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You put your finger on it, chele.
They worry far more about their party affiliation than they do the taxpayers. We see where they have placed their loyalties, what they have, that is.
Like I said, Chele....WAY too Pied Piperish for me....
almost Stepford like. Beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing...
exactly, Chele. Hillary only fakes this for
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Chele, just try to ignore the poster.
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Good post. Chele.....
Actually, McCain has tried twice in the past to get the government to do something about Fannie/Freddie and they didn't listen.
Obama does plan to cut taxes for what he calls 95% of the people in the country...roughly 40% of whom don't pay any taxes at all. Why on earth would you tax the businesses that provide 85% of the jobs in this country, resulting in more loss of jobs and adding to that 40%, to give a freebie to people already NOT paying taxes? There is only ONE reason for that...to keep them beholden to the government and voting for your party. Party first. If they really cared about that 40%, they would be trying to get them OUT of that 40%, not keep them there.
And bottom line...quality of health care will tank if the government controls it. I am hard pressed to think of any government program that actually works...and taking on national health care...people should check out the European economies where socialism is prevalent. Makes ours look GOOD.
can you not read? My name isnt Chele
lets get it straight here before you start droning on and on.
Just ignore these posts by this person, Chele....
...she's been trying for hours to get people to respond back to her crapola. Don't give her the satisfaction.
Suffice it to say, what comes around, goes around. She'll find that out, one of these days, I'm sure.
I get the sad feeling, though, that she'll be back by another name, yet again,, as these seem eerily like other poster aliases that come and go with such frequency, maligning the Republican side with such venom. Such hatred makes for a very sad, unhappy person, indeed.
Chele is not hateful or heartless, but honest.
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Hi Naunaw/Chele, where's the tally? u r so jealous
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Great post, Chele. I agree. Besides,
parents have to consent to ANY OTHER procedure for the child, why would this be any different?
Abortion is a horrible, horrible thing that is used by Planned Parentood to make money and used as birth control.
you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe
Great post, Chele... totally agree.nm
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No need. I can't think of who else left besides Nan before. sm
That's why I didn't name their name. Either way, my point was they'll be back.
Actually what the left
expects and the right should too is not to be lied to on a continual basis, to have our constitution upheld. We didnt go into this war to spread democracy we went because this administration lied. WMD remember? THATS why we went into Iraq, that and the fact that due to republican spin fully half of Americans believed Saddam did 09/11. and meanwhile the real perp of 09/11 runs free. If Iraq had no oil, we never would have gone in there. Sadly, Mr bush has made one huge mess that is costing us billions and killing our soldiers. Yeah a whole lot of America is furious and upset and we have good reason to be.
Look what the left does..
maybe this was posted before but it just goes to show how biased the media is and what liars they really are. the quote in red was the actual quote. Look how the media decided to butcher it.
The media is trying REALLY hard to paint Sarah Palin into an evil religious zealot. The AP is willing to break the typically utilized laws of printing the English language to do it.
According to the AP, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church:
“Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,"
According to real life, Sarah Palin said this about the troops while at church (with the AP’s selective quoting underlined):
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God,”
The AP quote means “Iraq is a mission from God.”
The actual quote means “We pray Iraq is a mission from God.”
The headline is even more misleading.
Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
The AP not only doesn't mention the previous sentence, or the first part of the sentence they quote, they also essentially ignore the meaning of the very next sentence as well. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
This is a statement of humble reflection from Palin. To translate into terms the media might understand, its "I hope we're doing the right thing."
This story is bad enough that the AP really should issue a correction on it, if not a full retraction. There's no story unless you butcher the quote. It's based on half (or a quarter) of a quote, mentally ignoring the previous and following sentences, and even presenting the trimmed quote as the start of a sentence --forcing them to capitalize a word that actually appeared in the middle of the sentence.
Really bad.
you left off
spinning his wedding ring. And everyone knows what a married man is thinking when he does that . . .
If you have next to no $ left now
you must be one of the ones that the rest of us will be supporting with our tax money.
I will if you put the left one in.
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Left behind
I am just wondering if either of you read Tim LeHaye's "Left Behind" series. It is fictional but deals with the rapture and those left behind. I had read it many years ago but was just thinking the other day how scary it is that I find so many similarities between the books and our current situation and my feelings about what we as a country may be facing after this election. Part of it also deals with a "one-world" religion, another thought I find scary. Have you read it?
She is the only one left on there with
decency and common sense! She is definitely no twit and there is nothing to hate about her. Just my opinion of course, and I feel like all the others are twits.
Does anyone have anything left in their
those to the far left seem to think
we are to be all-tolerant of them and their lunatic ideas, but the tolerance doesn't work the other direction. Don't worry, those who counted on Obama for the gay/lesbian legislation -- i'm sure he'll come through for you before its all over.
Yes, I know someone who left the
country because Bush was reelected. So, in answer to your obnoxious question, YES!
I'm about as far left as you can get ....
and Dubya didn't have anything to do with prompting the 9/11 attacks. He just had the bad fortune to be the sitting president at the time. Those attacks were years in the making. Years. It's foolish to blame any one president or any one administration for it.
Is this what the left always does when they have no
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Oh, come on! Both can be mean, but the left can
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What will they do when there's no one left to pay
This, of course, is the major flaw in all socialist dreams and schemes. Sooner or later, the camel collapses under the weight of hauling everyone else's load. And my hump is already getting rubbed raw.
Here is one, but it's partisan left! sm
Neighbors for Peace to "Raise the Bar" for Democratic Candidates
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
St. Paul, MN – June 17, 2003 – When national Democratic leaders visit St. Paul next week, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace and other Minnesota organizations will be on the scene to question presidential candidates, raising the electoral bar for peace, justice, and environmental issues.
The Association of State Democratic Chairs and the Democratic National Committee will convene this weekend at the Radisson Riverfront Hotel at 11 East Kellogg Boulevard in St. Paul. Gearing up for the 2004 presidential elections, Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace will be outside the hotel on Friday, June 20, from 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. to invite the candidates to join concerned Minnesota Democrats in dialogue about critical issues.
"People are leaving the Democratic party in droves, because in recent elections the candidates have become so centrist that they are almost indistinguishable from the Republicans," comments Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace co-founder, Anne Benson. "We want to see the Democratic party return to its progressive roots—to stand up for working people and poor people, and to fight against the regressive domestic and foreign policies of the Bush administration."
The neighbors from the Merriam Park area of St. Paul hold that in recent elections, Democratic candidates have lost their chance to take office because they've neglected the concerns of their own voters.
"It has always been said, 'There are more Democrats than Republicans; we just need to get out the vote,'" states member, Steve Schwarz. "We, however, need a reason to get out the vote. Many Democrats have felt alienated and misrepresented by the party and have looked instead to other alternatives. We believe in the principles that made the Democratic party what it was and still can be today. Remember, we in Minnesota have supported a long line of Democratic politicians who voted on principle and not on predictions of popularity. We expect our candidates to make peace and justice issues a priority."
Adds Benson, "We're encouraging candidates to ask themselves the hard questions: Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Was I misled by the administration when I voted for the War Powers Resolution? How do we get out of this quagmire in Iraq? Does the PATRIOT Act infringe on too many civil liberties?"
Merriam Park Neighbors for Peace has invited all Democratic candidates to meet with them after their sessions conclude on Friday to answer a series of fourteen questions regarding issues of pre-emptive war, international relations, arms development, military spending, V.A. benefits, U.S. economy, social programs, employment, globalization, education, health care, civil liberties, terrorism, and environmental policy. They invite all Minnesotans with these concerns to join them in St. Paul on Friday in addressing the candidates.
"We're not endorsing a particular candidate," group member, Jeanne Schnitzen, notes. "We're giving them all a chance to look us in the eye and answer to the issues we vote for. If they're really in this race to turn the tides, we'll make sure they get that chance. I want to believe there is a Democratic candidate who is capable of sowing the seeds of change."
So much for the tolerance of the left. nm
Looks like you left your *objectivity*
on the Conservative Board. Might be time for you to return.
Left leaning.
I am well aware that I am on a *left leaning* board; however, how can you ever possibly gain a true picture of real facts if you only visit left leaning sites? It isn't possible. I don't do it. In fact, on the other political boards I post on, some left and some right, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, News Max, Fox, are not used as sources.
You misunderstand me about the Constitution and Iraq.
The left really hates this guy
This is so laughable that with all that's going on the world the left stoops to National Enquirer style reporting. Get a life and a clue.
Why do you think everyone not for Bush is left?sm
I guess compared to those over on the conservative board, I am a little left. I was a registered Republican up until 4 years ago. Because their policies and actions conflict with my beliefs, I can no longer support the party. There are many many more just like me.
I think there is still dispute over even when they left sm
and why planes were allowed to come into US airspace to pick them up when all other aircraft were grounded. Also, why they were not questioned by FBI, etc.
Also, researchers requesting information from the FBI about their disposition with Osama, and were told that Osama is wanted by the FBI, but not for 911. So my question would be, well then who is?
Too bad folks, it's not just the left...sm
Like Lurker said, the gig is up! People are pushing for change in Iraq. Personally, I would have rather seen us release the full fury on terrorist who are invading that country and clean it up before leaving. However, if our strategy is to keep peddling around like street police then something has to give. We have our own country to fix and too much attention has been given to Iraq in the past 3 years.
On to the economy for a sec. Republicans have been boasting on how good the economy is doing, but guess which group is reaping the benefits. You guessed it - the rich. So sorry if the working man, you know those of us who punch the clock, are not feeling so thankful for the Dow and Nasdaq earnings. What's funny is that the *beltway boys* as AG calls them can not seem to figure out why 50% of Americans tend to feel the economy is not so hot.
What is typical of the left?
It kind of got lost in the point you were trying to make, something about Lurker not answering your question the way you wanted her to...or somethin' like that.
What I want to know is who left you in charge?
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Posters like this need to be left alone
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Would that be left or right bias?
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The left does it all the time.
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