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Posted By: be there if Dubya hadn't been president. on 2008-09-04
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Despicable -- your post is what is despicable here. nm

This is despicable.
He did the right thing by resigning.  Now he needs to be prosecuted.
your despicable is my
colorful colloguilism.  Common everyday.  Like lipstick on a pitbull - why is that not despicable?  splitting hairs and not focusing on the issues that concern our nation.  O will not be sidetracked by silly season; he is a constitutional lawyer, knows distraction when he sees it. 
that is despicable, serious they are saying that?
I thought the FBI was supposed to be pulling these people from the rallies.

If Barak is such a terrorist, why would JM share a stage with him, shake his hand, talk with his family?
How about despicable filth? sm
That's what Chomsky is.  Of course I was not there.  But historically, it is well documented. And I posted a wonderful link below about the three pillars on which Hitler based his Reich.  Well documented historically in all history books.  History Channel, too.  All documented. Right there in black and white.  Yep. 
despicable post
you should be ashamed
Both phrases were despicable....nm
Both uttered by the democratic candidate, to "manufacture" outrage....or humor if you're a dem.....as dems think it's funny...

It's called rude, crade, base, name calling, no matter how you phrase things after. NO matter how much you add another comment to make it look like you're talking about something else. You got your point across, that you think Palin is a pig, and you think McCain is an old fish that stinks.

Nice.

I think it's fair game to repeat Gov. Palin's own lipstick comment comparing to a pitbull, as everyone always calls surrogates in this race "pitbulls" that attack the other side, so to speak.

But this just shows you what Obama is really like.....real nice, isn't he?
Actually ANY slander is despicable, also in our
daily life.

Any plot is despicable - but it goes on both sides - sm
I don't care who it goes for. However, you are blaming her for what a bunch of crazed lunatics were planning. She wasn't planning it but you make is sound as if she was.

I, as many others, do believe our troops will not be safe under an Obama regime. Just look at his voting record and how he says he will handle the war. He voted "NO" on ensuring that our troops serving in harms way remain Americas top budget priority by ensuring full funding. That means he voted no on the funding to ensure our troops would remain safe. I would say Gov. Palin has it correct. You cannot ignore the facts.

If anything happens to Obama I would say the direct person who should be held accountable is Hillary Clinton and possibly her husband (?) Bill. She came out and said it on camera. "The reason I'm staying in the race is we all should remember Kennedy was assisinated, right?"

If you talk about hate-mongering, lets talk about the crowds at the Obama rallies shouting out nasty and hateful things about McCain/Palin, the dummy of Palin hanging, how bout the rocks thrown through a glass plate window of the republican headquarters. What about the spray painted words "Republicans equal slavery" in NY and then they stole 45 signs and spray painted over a banner messages and letters that included symbols sometimes used by gangs. What about Palins motorcade that was attacked by Obama supporters. Here's a link (it's even from CNN, which I was surprised). Gov. Palin had to have been terrified. Talk about feeling like the Rodney King riots were back.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVBaM2lQsg

Each side has their own hate-mongerers and both sides do it well. Luckily there are those like us who just disagree with the other side, but we don't commit violence.
So much hatred in this posting, despicable..
Is it allowed to talk like that about

The President of the United States of America?

This is SLANDER !
Maybe they find it despicable but they're fueling it.

Just when I think Bush and crew have reached their despicable peak...

... I discover something even more despicable.  This isn't a new story, but I just heard it for the first time on TV tonight. 


I'm at the point where I seriously hope this cold-hearted, dim-witted MORON gets impeached, because I'm sick of all his BU_ _SH _ _!!!!


(WARNING:  Read quickly before the CON crew censors this post and demands it be deleted.)


Sen. Biden: 'I'm Not Allowed To Be There When The Flag-Draped Casket Comes In' ...

The Huffington Post   |  Posted June 20, 2005 10:11 PM


READ MORE: CBS, Iraq



iraq


On CBS News's Face the Nation yesterday, Senator Joseph Biden (D-Del.) told Bob Schieffer that the Defense Department policy forbids him from paying his respects to fallen soldiers as their coffins return to the US through the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. Though no cameras and no press would accompany him, Biden said he had to receive express permission from the Pentagon to join a grieving family that had requested his presence as they met their deceased son who died in a car bomb in Iraq.


I'm allowed in the military base. I'm not allowed to go to the mortuary, he said.


Senator Biden added that it is his understanding that the policy originates with Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.


In April 2004, published photographs of flag-draped coffins arriving at the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware prompted the Pentagon to ban the release of such pictures. After Ralph J. Begleiter, a University of Delaware professor and former CNN correspondent, filed a Freedom of Information Act request, the Pentagon reversed the ban in April 2005 and released 361 undated, unlabelled pictures of coffins arriving at Dover Air Force Base.


Read excerpts of the CBS News transcript:


SCHIEFFER: You talk about not fully informing the American people. There's no question that the administration has at least discouraged people from reporting on casualties there. For example, the casualties all the people who have been killed in Iraq come back through the...


Sen. BIDEN: True.


SCHIEFFER: ...Air Force base in Delaware.


Sen. BIDEN: In Dover.


SCHIEFFER: Do you ever go out to meet those flights out there?


Sen. BIDEN: I've tried to and they will not allow me to. As a matter of fact...


SCHIEFFER: Who will not allow you to?


Sen. BIDEN: The Defense Department. Look...


SCHIEFFER: Wait a minute. You're a United States senator.


Sen. BIDEN: I'm a United States senator. Well, let me be very...


SCHIEFFER: They're not letting you on a military base?


Sen. BIDEN: I'm allowed in the military base. I'm not allowed to go to the mortuary. I'm not allowed to be there when the flag-draped casket comes in. As a matter of fact, Bob, one family asked me whether I would meet their son who was tragically gunned down, actually car bomb in Iraq. This is several months ago. I said I would be honored to be with them. They wanted me to come with the minister. They wanted me through the whole process. The commander of the base told me that he couldn't allow that to happen and he's a friend--this is not like there's no hostility there; I'm on the base all the time--until he cleared it with the Pentagon. And I'm told the civilian leadership in the Pentagon. So in order for me to literally go in and accompany a mom and a dad and a son to pick up the body of a dead son, a young Marine killed in Iraq, I was not just able to do it as a senior United States senator, former chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee--not like I'm new to this. I had to get specific permission for that specific event. I wanted to go when more than one Marine came back dead and I just wanted to show my respect. I didn't want any press there. There was no press. We weren't talking about that.


SCHIEFFER: So you think it is the secretary of Defense himself who's blocking you?


Sen. BIDEN: Well, that's my understanding. I don't know that for a fact, but it's not the military. It's the civilian decision in the Defense Department that you're not allowed to be there just to show respects. And let me emphasize here now. No press. No cameras. Nothing. I have made it a practice. The reason I've gone to Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia is to demonstrate to those troops there that I understand what's going on and to be with them. No press. And they won't even let me on the base. Now, look, I'm not...


Ms. TUMULTY: Why? Why do you think that is?


Sen. BIDEN: They have this generic policy that it is a private matter. Well, I don't know any family that would--maybe there is--but I don't know any family that if a member of the government, a high-ranking official, was there just to pay their respects--and, look, this is heart-wrenching stuff. I mean, you were saying--maybe I shouldn't say this--before the show how it gets you on your nightly news broadcast when you talk about these young men and women who die. I mean, I think it's important for the nation to acknowledge and I think part of my job is to demonstrate privately ...


I am an independent....neither party is "my" party.
THis election cycle I believe the best man is a Republican. Do your research. John McCain warned about this in 2005, named Fannie and freddie by name, co-sponsored legislation to control them. Blocked by Democrats, led by Chris Dodd..same guy now trying to fix what he and the Dems broke. Chris Dodd, #1 on contributions list from fannie/freddie, followed closely by #2, your shining knight Mr. Obama. The chickens have come home to roost all right...or should I say the donkeys. :)
Uh oh. Looks like the party's over.
Sharpen up those cat claws.
What about the other party?
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me and my party?
All I asked was if this was more divisive. I said nothing about any party or who I would prefer to see win. I said nothing hateful or vicious. Give it a rest, will ya?
Pub party?
Cool!  Can I pick the pub, and will you bring 'nother fattie for the parking lot?
I am not of the pub party.

There are a lot of things to fault Obama for already.  Just because you are too blind to see it just shows that you are so into democratic rhetoric that you can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie. 


I truly feel sorry for people who are so caught up in the party lines (and this goes for both dems and pubs) that they refuse to see politicians for who they truly are. 


Barrack Obama is a liar and he is so obvious about his lying it is amazing that you people can't even see it when it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!!! 


new party
I am so disgusted with all these folks in office, I am ready to start my own party. I think I will call it the Repo Party with the main objective being to take our country back.  And we will be voting on daylight savings time, just for starters.
party time..
You party for your reasons, I party for me..Fortunately, right now democrats and the like minded have many things to party for..YEEHHAAWW!!  Bye bye Scooter, bye bye Rove, bye bye incompetent Bush, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Our party definitely needs to step up. sm
It's come to the point that I don't even know what our party values anymore. Just a bunch of different groups trying to elevate their cause with no clear focus. What is our agenda? I'm listening, but our elected officials are not talking.

Is Senator Kennedy the last Dem standing? At least he and Murtha speak their minds and challenge this administration. And I'm dog tired of hearing what the republicans got wrong. Though I think they have a nice stack of issues, I want to hear what our party is going to do to fix the Iraqi situation, what would they do in Louisiana and Missisippi differently if they had the ball in their court and what are they willing to fight for to effect change? What will they do to make America safer from domestic and foreign terrorists? Offer up some solutions. Maybe they have, but I haven't heard anything.

Hillary, though I'm still a fan of hers, seems to ride whichever wave she's on. Howard Dean is a live wire who says the first thing that floats to his brain, off the wall. He does not have the carisma to lead the party to victory IMHO.

As far as the republicans, I'm tired of hearing about gay marriages and abortions. I do not think these are America's main issues, not even close. I want to hear something other than rhetoric about how good Iraqi is doing too.

And I was just having a conversation earlier this week with a friend of mine who agrees with me that we have seen MORE gays and lesbians emerge since Bush took office. And before you get it wrong conservatives, I'm not saying he is creating them. It may be that the gays are rebelling and being more blatant with it to spite the anti-gay politicians, and/or all of the attention brought to gay marriage and gay this and that have only lured more young people into this culture as a reverse effect. I think the latter is more likely because rewind back to 2000, it was less likely you would see woman/woman, man/man hand in hand in the supermarket. Now, it's just as normal as man/woman and I'm in the bible belt, Alabama.

I agree with the poster who asked the question *where was THIS Al Gore 8 years ago?* Maybe, they'll wise up and make him head of the DNC. Say, *Thanks Dr. Dean for your services but we won't be needing them anymore.*

Either way, this administration NEEDS more disenting voices with SOLUTIONS-this is key-not just rhetoric because on major issues they have been allowed to runamuck basically uncontested for the last five years.

If we keep it up at this rate though I agree it's bad news for America.
*We tend to believe our party*...sm
Re-reading my postI can see how I misspoke. What I was trying to get across, and my post was not directed at you BTW, was that psychologically people tend to put more trust in and defend the party they support by default. Whether you are a registered republican or not, you support the republican party, and I glean that from your statement *I have not seen a Democrat I could vote for in good conscious.* And whether you are aware of it or not, you defend that party tooth and nails on here, and there is nothing wrong with that if they follow your belief systems.

Good for you for criticizing Foley, and any other person who is inappropriate with the pages. I have said here before I do not know why Studds didn't stepdown and more importantly why he was reelected. I'm against his having a relationship with a page as much as I am Foley.

As to Juanita, I understand you are personally connected with her in some way, so you will obviously be more sensitive to her situation than I will. I am looking at the big picture. Since she did not come forward in 1978, the statue of limitations gone, all she can do is tell her story, and Clinton has a story. Like I said her story is believable. She has proven genuine and not making claims out of spite or for money. I think it was Brunson who posted ladies that Clinton was supposed to have either raped or sexually harrassed earlier this year. Out of them all, Juanita was the only one I believe has substance.

I disagree with you again; when it was brought up that conservative presidents were accused of rape below, it was rebutted with *that was only one time...but..but..but..* That's rationalizing and minimizing.

I know your mind is made up about Vincent Foster, but this is what's on snopes.com. What I find interesting is the *suicide note.*

White House deputy counsel Vince Foster committed suicide on the night of 20 July 1993 by shooting himself once in the head, a day after he contacted his doctor about his depression. A note in the form of a draft resignation letter was found in the bottom of his briefcase a week after his death. (Note that this letter was not, as is often claimed, a suicide note. It was Foster's outline for a letter of resignation.) Foster cited negative Wall Street Journal editorials about him. He was also upset about the much-criticized role of the counsel's office in the controversial firing of seven White House travel office workers.

On 10 October 1997, special prosecutor Kenneth Starr released his report on the investigation into Foster's death, the third such investigation (after ones conducted by the coroner and Starr's predecessor, Robert B. Fiske) of the matter. The 114-page summary of a three-year investigation concluded that Foster shot himself with the pistol discovered in his right hand. There was no sign of a struggle, nor any evidence he'd been drugged or intoxicated or that his body had been moved.

If Foster had been murdered or if unanswered questions about his death remained, Starr would have been the last person to want to conclude the investigation prematurely. Or are we to believe Starr is part of the cover up, too? And if we buy into the conspiracy theory, what are we expected to believe? That a group of professional killers capable of carrying out dozens of murders all over the world shot Vince Foster, then clumsily dumped him in a park (after he had bled out), planted a gun he didn't own in his hand (without bothering to press his fingerprints onto it), amateurishly forged a suicide note (in several different handwritings), and then seriously expected the nation would believe it was suicide? Claims too crazy to believe are never discounted when they're needed to help establish a conspiracy, of course.

Oh, and did you check out the Bush body count??

Individuals, maybe. As for the party,
nm
Well, at least there are members in that party...
who will buck the party and put the people first. The Dems don't, won't, and that pretty much solidifies why I would not vote for a Dem...EVER again.
We can all see how much your party cares
nm
The peace party......
and what ultimately might get us into a nuclear confrontation.
I went to a party last week

to watch the acceptance speech by Obama.  There was one individual at the party who kept talking endlessly and kept trying to re-take the floor after someone spoke about their  interests.  it was incredibly annoying.  Ever had that happen in your life? conversation hog?


 


 


Obama party
I actually posted back a couple of pages about this - this board has been busy since last night! =) I was actually kind of disappointed with the party. First off, the lady from the Democratic Headquarters didn't really give any information about any of the issues - she just brought print-outs from his website, which I had already read through before going to the party. Also, my friend that hosted the party is a HUGE Hillary she got some of the other guests going on about Hillary rather than talking about Obama. I asked a couple of questions, but no one there really seemed very informed and the response I got was to give them my email address and they would get back to me. The one nice thing was that there was no Bush-bashing and really no mention of McCain at all, but information on Obama was no more than I could get off the internet. It was good to see my friend again (this summer had been kind of crazy) and nice to meet some new people, but politically, it was really a waste of time. Everyone was really nice, even after they found out I had never listened to NPR =) I do, however, encourage people to attend a political "party" - either Republican or Democrat - perhaps the person who does your presentation will be better informed. Thanks to everyone that gave me web info earlier this week! =)
Obama can't fix what with his party either...
hard to do when you personify it.


It is JM's/SP's party's turn to be on the
the media dished out on their behalf throughout the entire primary season. Repeat. Show me one time JM has attempted to rein in his supporters when their tactics got out of control. Never mind what the media would or would not have done. I am looking for an example of JM expressing his awareness or concern that the tactics being used were inappropriate. O has done this on occasions, which makes the inquiry legitimate. The reason there is no answer is because there is no example. The hypocrisy of the remainder of this post speaks for itself and requires no rebuttal.
How can a party brainwash
nm
Once again, anyone not voting for your party
I haven't seen you say one thing yet that wasn't something I already heard stated on the news. If listening to the media and buying into their opinions is reasoning, then I don't wanna be a "reasoning" voter. I'm not for Barack or McCain, but I don't see the purpose of insulting someone because they DO like one or the other. Something tells me you don't need a purpose or reason to insult, though, it just makes you feel better about you.
your party and your president

Dubya are making us socialist -- this is what you have harped on for years.  We even get to take over the debts of foreign banks thanks to Phil Gram, John McClain's right hand man.


 


What party is he, and why was he not nominated?

vote third party
Remember how we just "don't understand" how the bailout is good for us? Every politician and every single new media outlet said that we did not understand. They are protecting us from ourselves? we have to get together on this and get them out!
THis is not about the Republican party....
it is about socialism. I am a registered Independent, not a Republican. I just don't want a socialist America. What part of that do you not understand?

There is nothing positive about socialism that I can see.

Fear mongering...good grief. I am not fearful, I am angry. That man wants to highjack my country and a good many of my countrymen/women seem all to eager to help him do so. That doesn't make me afraid...it makes me angry.
However, there is nothing I can do about that, except vote for what I want, just like you are apparently going to.

If you get your way, and by the end of his term we are up to our eyeballs in socialism....one thing you can be sure of...I had nothing to do with it.
Well said. I don't belong to either party.
I just hope that the country can survive the 4 years. If Obama doesn't tax and spend us into a real depression or turn us into Venezuela north, perhaps it will.

But at least I will have the small comfort in knowing I had nothing to do with putting him in the White House.
You would probably know more about the Nazi party
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INDEPENDENT PARTY
The independent party has voted that they will back McCain.  They have NO votes to back Obama whatsoever!!!!
which independent party?
Which one? There are a couple, at least:
The American Independent Party
The Independent American Party
Independence Party of America

I thought being an "independent" meant you didn't belong to any party...
Okay, but for the Independent Party, do
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That is a pity party going on there...
I've been poor, woe is me, nobody knows my plight. Well, poster may find this hard to believe but there are others who were also poor while young, went through horrific things in their life, and still don't use that as an excuse to whine their entire life and live in the past until their dying day.
And what is my party and who is my guy? Frankly,
I think Alan Keyes or Chuck Baldwin would be the far greater choices of president than any of the 2 that have been purposely foisted upon us, but in the end, I will vote for what is best for my country, a concept you obviously do not share.

Come back 6 months from now, commie, and tell me how you are faring.
If he is already planning a 2M party
he's pretty much announced that he is going to win too...

and during the last debate he said a bunch of times "when I am president"

Goes both ways.
There's always the Constitution Party....sm
Chuck Baldwin is their candidate. I really like his platform as he is very conservative and has some really good ideas. Unfortunately, I doubt there is much chance he will win, but if feeling good about your vote is important to you, then check him out.

http://www.baldwin08.com/
This sheeple will party on down!
Hey guess what....the term *tribe* was used as a reference to survivor...not a racial slur unless you're looking for it...
Not according to the socialist party.
Brian Moore, the presidential candidate for the socialist party, says that it is an insult to say that Barack Obama is a socialist. He was interviewed on TV last week and said that Obama is a capitalist and could not be described as a socialist in any way, shape, or form. I think he knows a little bit more about socialism than any of you do.
Not to worry, her own party won't have her... sm
They see what she did to McCain and how she is really out for herself. It was a giant mistake that McCain won't admit but many many many republicans jumped ship because of Palin.
Party of whiners?
at least it's not the party of handouts and doing nothing for themselves.

I guess instead of complaining I should just walk away from the my mortgage? I wasn't whining, I was stating a fact, but am I surprised that you attacked me for that? NO
We need a viable 3rd party. Until then....
It is business as usual. Neither party does what WE THE PEOPLE elected them to do, they do what THEY want to do. This is where we as fed up Americans can put entrenched politicians out of business.

Let your elected officials know that in the next election their jobs are in peril as we are SICK AND TIRED of being played for chumps. Then tell them that you will not vote for an established party, you are going to vote 3rd party.

I realize that this will take a lot of work, but if enough of us can join together, it can be done.

I will get off my soapbox now.


Find A Tax-Day Tea Party Near You...sm


People on both sides of the political aisle are beginning to realize that our government is running amuck under the current administration, and concern about this is even beginning to surface internationally as well.  You're starting to see stories in the international press, like this one: http://tinyurl.com/cs5qro



The insane spending, the creation of $1 trillion out of thin air by the Fed just last week (it's not thin air, though...it'll be squeezed out of us), the loony agenda of transforming (meaning, inserting government into) every aspect of American life, the explosion of the projected deficits going forward that literally mean that America is now - right NOW - bankrupt...Americans are saying "Enough!" - and that means both Democrats and Republicans.  Not the ones in Washington...you and I.  You know, the ones who are going to be stuck with the bill that we can't pay, nor our children either.  Folks - we're talking $trillions and $trillions.  This simply has to stop.  If we don't get a grip on this government, and do it before it's too late, the only thing we can say is that we got exactly the government we deserved.


Go to the link below and scroll down the page until you come to the state-by-state links.  I was rather amazed.  I live about 30 miles north of a large city and there are three parties being held within a 20-minute drive of my town, one just 10 minutes.  If there isn't one near you, there's time to organize one (be sure you get the necessary permit though - we wouldn't want to have to spring you from prison).


Oh, and while you're at it, buzz over to http://www.termlimits.org and sign their petition.  This is definitely an idea whose time has come.  Let's get these "career politicians" in Washington on the fast track back home.  They need to be looking for work like the rest of us.