And what is my party and who is my guy? Frankly,
Posted By: Bradley on 2008-10-25
In Reply to: This is what happens when a political camp - becomes so immersend in its own bankrupt.sm
I think Alan Keyes or Chuck Baldwin would be the far greater choices of president than any of the 2 that have been purposely foisted upon us, but in the end, I will vote for what is best for my country, a concept you obviously do not share.
Come back 6 months from now, commie, and tell me how you are faring.
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Frankly, don't we all cringe when the other party speaks?
But that's because we anticipate the content is not going to be what we want to hear.
Bush's speeches made me cringe for other reasons - like I was embarrassed we had such an obvious moron as a leader, and the rest of the world could appreciate our sterling judgement. We might as well posted a billboard that says - we elected the stupidest guy we could get so the powers behind the throne will have an easy time of it. Nothing fake about HIM - he was sincerely, honestly stupid, and proud of it.
Quite frankly.......
I'd have to say it will benefit the dems. Let's give the pubs 4 more years - that's 12 years in the white house and then, let's see the outcome. Let them clean up the mess they created.
Quite frankly........sm
It just may well be that God wants Obama in the white house for the next four years.
The only way to rise out of the ashes, is to really fall low, and quite frankly, we will all see change such as we've never witnessed in our lifetimes, should Obama and the superliberal house and senate come to pass.
You all should be scared to death, and yet you are not.
You want change.
But you won't like the change you are about to see.
So be it.
If God wants Obama in the white house, let it be.
Then a real republican can rise from the ashes and help save our sorry butts the way Reagan did three decades ago.
Quite frankly....sm
Sarah Palin is too conservative for the Republican party as it stands now. Plain and simple. The Republican party needs to turn back to the right, if it wants to survive, not go to the middle, like George Bush tried to do, and John McCain. If you travel in the middle of the road, you're gonna get run over.
If she is to be a serious contender in 2012 and beyond, she does need to gain more experience in the national arena, much the way BWT says below.
She has the right stuff, she just needs to expand upon. She is one smart and classy lady, and if she wants to, she very well may be what the Republican party needs, to get back to its roots.
I'm looking at Bobby Jindal, and also my favorite, Mitt Romney, to be leaders also, and bring us to the forefront once again.
And I'm not a Republican. I'm an independent....I'm just too conservative for the Republican party as it is now....
I frankly don't see what your problem with this is....
the people of the state of Colorado are already paying to keep those inmates with food, a roof, medical care, etc., etc. Why shouldn't those inmates give back? I don't think they should even get 60 cents an hour. They would be working to help pay for their own upkeep. Slaves?? Come ON!!!! And working right along with them should be welfare recipients who are physically able to work. They need to earn that money that is being given to them, in some form or fashion. As to farms being corporations...the vast majority of farmers in Colorado and in every other state are not corporations, but many times second, third, fourth, and on generation farmers who have to bear the brunt of production (equipment, seed, etc.) on their own dime. They need every break we can give them, and I don't see ANY reason why inmates and welfare recipients who are able-bodied cannot do that; and I don't see why anyone should have a problem with it. Why DO you have a problem with it?
Frankly...I don't care what you believe.
I will sleep soundly tonight listening to the waves crash against the shore whether you believe me or not. I am going to walk down to the pier now and ride the Ferris wheel and enjoy the marine layer before the Santa Ana winds pick up again. End of discussion.
Frankly, I would be more comfortable with YOU...
talking to them than Obama. :-)
I have not posted here for awhile because, frankly,..
I was at a loss for words. If I were one of those televangelist types I would say God did sent this hurricane/flood to expose this administration and many I-got-mine, who-gives-a-hoot-about-you Americans to the rest of the world for what our country has become...a place where racism, poverty, greed and environmental desecration have been allowed to thrive unhindered. There is money and manpower for the things this administration really believes in; power, personal accumulation of money, war and environmental apathy but none for its poorest, oldest, youngest and sickest...finally, finally, having been exposed naked to the world, perhaps we will wake up as a nation and clean house from the top on down. With God's help, and a little selflessness from everyone (not just the same people over and over and over) I believe we can overcome this tragedy and go on to be better for it; we are always better when we do the right thing. If our administration can't or won't do it, perhaps we can shame them in the eyes of the world by doing it ourselves. I am rambling here...I am just so completely stunned by the last week's events. I will stop here. Mitakuye Oyasin. Aho.
I've been working all day - and frankly...
I have had my head and mind in the computer all day working so have not heard what was said.
I did hear the biggest gaffe in a long time directly by the O. He said "our dollar is strong". What???? Has he been drinking his own kool-aid. DH just had come out for lunch and he was telling me the dollar was dropping quite rapidly. So made lunch, we sat down and on the news heard the enlightened one claim the dollar is strong today. Eegads!!!
So out of touch, but know he won't be missing another party at the wh tonight.
Frankly - I am sick, sick, sick of it all. Sick of hearing our politicians get up and bold face lie right to the camera. They're not even trying to hide it anymore. I'm sick of them working for themselves, and not doing anything to show they have an interest in getting our economy back on track or that they even care about the people anymore. I'm tired of hearing politicians have got all this money "scrolled away" at various banks throughout the world (and we're are not talking about a modest amount). I'm tired of hearing money is missing from here or there and they just decide they refuse to disclose where the money went. I'm tired of hearing them falsly pretend they are disgusted with the AIG and other bail outs then we find out their wives or other relatives work for the same companies and they are doing under-the-table deals while they have their castles on the shores of Ireland and other countries. I'm sick of hearing that they live in million dollar mansions that they are not paying anything to live and (free). I'm sick of hearing about the crooks we have in Washington and tired of hearing all these TV/Radio shows talk and complain about it but do nothing about it. I'm tired of having to pay so much in taxes that I can hardly live anymore yet if you are in politics/WA you don't have to pay taxes. And I'm tired of hearing people excuse them and say that's okay, just as long as one party or the other is not in office. In which case they don't care.
By all means, I'm not directing this at any one person in specific so please nobody take any offense. I'm just so sick of everything going on in the news and what is happening with the country I'm just blowing off steam here. By now I thought I would have some at least some job growth. Even if it was just one company in all of America that is hiring. Is that too much to ask. Just one company in all of America to show some growth, and maybe then it would spur on others.
I'm just sick of it all and thinking of taking a seriously long break from listening to the news anymore. If I'm not watching the country go down the tubes on the TV, then I listen to Hannity whine about it but offer no solutions, and at the same time I turn to Olberman and the MSNBC crowd and they praise what is going on. So rather than "blow a gasket" (in my head) I think I will tune out all news and come here and see who said what and then go check it out. Otherwise, I feel like one of the characters in Orwell's 1984 movie.
Frankly gt you are pretty disturbing all by your lonesome. I'd like to think
there's only one of you.
Nice deflection to Palin....I am just frankly...
amazed that you think a debate is more important than the crisis we are in, and still fully support and back a man whose answer to it is "they will call me if they need me." If this is how he is going to govern, no thanks. He is, after all, a sitting senator who WE are paying, and this crisis should be his FIRST priority as an elected senator, let alone as a person running for the Presidency. Frankly, I don't care a DARN what he is going to SAY in a debate. I would like, for once, to see him actually DO something. DO something!!!!!
No thanks. Frankly, the thought of you touching me gives me the heebie jeebies. nm
Frankly, I thought it was an insult to the Monkey, and Curious George, also, he was intelligent!...n
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I am an independent....neither party is "my" party.
THis election cycle I believe the best man is a Republican. Do your research. John McCain warned about this in 2005, named Fannie and freddie by name, co-sponsored legislation to control them. Blocked by Democrats, led by Chris Dodd..same guy now trying to fix what he and the Dems broke. Chris Dodd, #1 on contributions list from fannie/freddie, followed closely by #2, your shining knight Mr. Obama. The chickens have come home to roost all right...or should I say the donkeys. :)
Uh oh. Looks like the party's over.
Sharpen up those cat claws.
What about the other party?
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me and my party?
All I asked was if this was more divisive. I said nothing about any party or who I would prefer to see win. I said nothing hateful or vicious. Give it a rest, will ya?
Pub party?
Cool! Can I pick the pub, and will you bring 'nother fattie for the parking lot?
I am not of the pub party.
There are a lot of things to fault Obama for already. Just because you are too blind to see it just shows that you are so into democratic rhetoric that you can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie.
I truly feel sorry for people who are so caught up in the party lines (and this goes for both dems and pubs) that they refuse to see politicians for who they truly are.
Barrack Obama is a liar and he is so obvious about his lying it is amazing that you people can't even see it when it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!!!
new party
I am so disgusted with all these folks in office, I am ready to start my own party. I think I will call it the Repo Party with the main objective being to take our country back. And we will be voting on daylight savings time, just for starters.
party time..
You party for your reasons, I party for me..Fortunately, right now democrats and the like minded have many things to party for..YEEHHAAWW!! Bye bye Scooter, bye bye Rove, bye bye incompetent Bush, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Our party definitely needs to step up. sm
It's come to the point that I don't even know what our party values anymore. Just a bunch of different groups trying to elevate their cause with no clear focus. What is our agenda? I'm listening, but our elected officials are not talking.
Is Senator Kennedy the last Dem standing? At least he and Murtha speak their minds and challenge this administration. And I'm dog tired of hearing what the republicans got wrong. Though I think they have a nice stack of issues, I want to hear what our party is going to do to fix the Iraqi situation, what would they do in Louisiana and Missisippi differently if they had the ball in their court and what are they willing to fight for to effect change? What will they do to make America safer from domestic and foreign terrorists? Offer up some solutions. Maybe they have, but I haven't heard anything.
Hillary, though I'm still a fan of hers, seems to ride whichever wave she's on. Howard Dean is a live wire who says the first thing that floats to his brain, off the wall. He does not have the carisma to lead the party to victory IMHO.
As far as the republicans, I'm tired of hearing about gay marriages and abortions. I do not think these are America's main issues, not even close. I want to hear something other than rhetoric about how good Iraqi is doing too.
And I was just having a conversation earlier this week with a friend of mine who agrees with me that we have seen MORE gays and lesbians emerge since Bush took office. And before you get it wrong conservatives, I'm not saying he is creating them. It may be that the gays are rebelling and being more blatant with it to spite the anti-gay politicians, and/or all of the attention brought to gay marriage and gay this and that have only lured more young people into this culture as a reverse effect. I think the latter is more likely because rewind back to 2000, it was less likely you would see woman/woman, man/man hand in hand in the supermarket. Now, it's just as normal as man/woman and I'm in the bible belt, Alabama.
I agree with the poster who asked the question *where was THIS Al Gore 8 years ago?* Maybe, they'll wise up and make him head of the DNC. Say, *Thanks Dr. Dean for your services but we won't be needing them anymore.*
Either way, this administration NEEDS more disenting voices with SOLUTIONS-this is key-not just rhetoric because on major issues they have been allowed to runamuck basically uncontested for the last five years.
If we keep it up at this rate though I agree it's bad news for America.
*We tend to believe our party*...sm
Re-reading my postI can see how I misspoke. What I was trying to get across, and my post was not directed at you BTW, was that psychologically people tend to put more trust in and defend the party they support by default. Whether you are a registered republican or not, you support the republican party, and I glean that from your statement *I have not seen a Democrat I could vote for in good conscious.* And whether you are aware of it or not, you defend that party tooth and nails on here, and there is nothing wrong with that if they follow your belief systems.
Good for you for criticizing Foley, and any other person who is inappropriate with the pages. I have said here before I do not know why Studds didn't stepdown and more importantly why he was reelected. I'm against his having a relationship with a page as much as I am Foley.
As to Juanita, I understand you are personally connected with her in some way, so you will obviously be more sensitive to her situation than I will. I am looking at the big picture. Since she did not come forward in 1978, the statue of limitations gone, all she can do is tell her story, and Clinton has a story. Like I said her story is believable. She has proven genuine and not making claims out of spite or for money. I think it was Brunson who posted ladies that Clinton was supposed to have either raped or sexually harrassed earlier this year. Out of them all, Juanita was the only one I believe has substance.
I disagree with you again; when it was brought up that conservative presidents were accused of rape below, it was rebutted with *that was only one time...but..but..but..* That's rationalizing and minimizing.
I know your mind is made up about Vincent Foster, but this is what's on snopes.com. What I find interesting is the *suicide note.*
White House deputy counsel Vince Foster committed suicide on the night of 20 July 1993 by shooting himself once in the head, a day after he contacted his doctor about his depression. A note in the form of a draft resignation letter was found in the bottom of his briefcase a week after his death. (Note that this letter was not, as is often claimed, a suicide note. It was Foster's outline for a letter of resignation.) Foster cited negative Wall Street Journal editorials about him. He was also upset about the much-criticized role of the counsel's office in the controversial firing of seven White House travel office workers.
On 10 October 1997, special prosecutor Kenneth Starr released his report on the investigation into Foster's death, the third such investigation (after ones conducted by the coroner and Starr's predecessor, Robert B. Fiske) of the matter. The 114-page summary of a three-year investigation concluded that Foster shot himself with the pistol discovered in his right hand. There was no sign of a struggle, nor any evidence he'd been drugged or intoxicated or that his body had been moved.
If Foster had been murdered or if unanswered questions about his death remained, Starr would have been the last person to want to conclude the investigation prematurely. Or are we to believe Starr is part of the cover up, too? And if we buy into the conspiracy theory, what are we expected to believe? That a group of professional killers capable of carrying out dozens of murders all over the world shot Vince Foster, then clumsily dumped him in a park (after he had bled out), planted a gun he didn't own in his hand (without bothering to press his fingerprints onto it), amateurishly forged a suicide note (in several different handwritings), and then seriously expected the nation would believe it was suicide? Claims too crazy to believe are never discounted when they're needed to help establish a conspiracy, of course.
Oh, and did you check out the Bush body count??
Individuals, maybe. As for the party,
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Well, at least there are members in that party...
who will buck the party and put the people first. The Dems don't, won't, and that pretty much solidifies why I would not vote for a Dem...EVER again.
We can all see how much your party cares
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The peace party......
and what ultimately might get us into a nuclear confrontation.
I went to a party last week
to watch the acceptance speech by Obama. There was one individual at the party who kept talking endlessly and kept trying to re-take the floor after someone spoke about their interests. it was incredibly annoying. Ever had that happen in your life? conversation hog?
Despicable party. The WTC would probably still
Obama party
I actually posted back a couple of pages about this - this board has been busy since last night! =) I was actually kind of disappointed with the party. First off, the lady from the Democratic Headquarters didn't really give any information about any of the issues - she just brought print-outs from his website, which I had already read through before going to the party. Also, my friend that hosted the party is a HUGE Hillary she got some of the other guests going on about Hillary rather than talking about Obama. I asked a couple of questions, but no one there really seemed very informed and the response I got was to give them my email address and they would get back to me. The one nice thing was that there was no Bush-bashing and really no mention of McCain at all, but information on Obama was no more than I could get off the internet. It was good to see my friend again (this summer had been kind of crazy) and nice to meet some new people, but politically, it was really a waste of time. Everyone was really nice, even after they found out I had never listened to NPR =) I do, however, encourage people to attend a political "party" - either Republican or Democrat - perhaps the person who does your presentation will be better informed. Thanks to everyone that gave me web info earlier this week! =)
Obama can't fix what with his party either...
hard to do when you personify it.
It is JM's/SP's party's turn to be on the
the media dished out on their behalf throughout the entire primary season. Repeat. Show me one time JM has attempted to rein in his supporters when their tactics got out of control. Never mind what the media would or would not have done. I am looking for an example of JM expressing his awareness or concern that the tactics being used were inappropriate. O has done this on occasions, which makes the inquiry legitimate. The reason there is no answer is because there is no example. The hypocrisy of the remainder of this post speaks for itself and requires no rebuttal.
How can a party brainwash
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Once again, anyone not voting for your party
I haven't seen you say one thing yet that wasn't something I already heard stated on the news. If listening to the media and buying into their opinions is reasoning, then I don't wanna be a "reasoning" voter. I'm not for Barack or McCain, but I don't see the purpose of insulting someone because they DO like one or the other. Something tells me you don't need a purpose or reason to insult, though, it just makes you feel better about you.
your party and your president
Dubya are making us socialist -- this is what you have harped on for years. We even get to take over the debts of foreign banks thanks to Phil Gram, John McClain's right hand man.
What party is he, and why was he not nominated?
vote third party
Remember how we just "don't understand" how the bailout is good for us? Every politician and every single new media outlet said that we did not understand. They are protecting us from ourselves? we have to get together on this and get them out!
THis is not about the Republican party....
it is about socialism. I am a registered Independent, not a Republican. I just don't want a socialist America. What part of that do you not understand?
There is nothing positive about socialism that I can see.
Fear mongering...good grief. I am not fearful, I am angry. That man wants to highjack my country and a good many of my countrymen/women seem all to eager to help him do so. That doesn't make me afraid...it makes me angry.
However, there is nothing I can do about that, except vote for what I want, just like you are apparently going to.
If you get your way, and by the end of his term we are up to our eyeballs in socialism....one thing you can be sure of...I had nothing to do with it.
Well said. I don't belong to either party.
I just hope that the country can survive the 4 years. If Obama doesn't tax and spend us into a real depression or turn us into Venezuela north, perhaps it will.
But at least I will have the small comfort in knowing I had nothing to do with putting him in the White House.
You would probably know more about the Nazi party
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INDEPENDENT PARTY
 The independent party has voted that they will back McCain. They have NO votes to back Obama whatsoever!!!!
which independent party?
Which one? There are a couple, at least:
The American Independent Party
The Independent American Party
Independence Party of America
I thought being an "independent" meant you didn't belong to any party...
Okay, but for the Independent Party, do
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That is a pity party going on there...
I've been poor, woe is me, nobody knows my plight. Well, poster may find this hard to believe but there are others who were also poor while young, went through horrific things in their life, and still don't use that as an excuse to whine their entire life and live in the past until their dying day.
If he is already planning a 2M party
he's pretty much announced that he is going to win too...
and during the last debate he said a bunch of times "when I am president"
Goes both ways.
There's always the Constitution Party....sm
Chuck Baldwin is their candidate. I really like his platform as he is very conservative and has some really good ideas. Unfortunately, I doubt there is much chance he will win, but if feeling good about your vote is important to you, then check him out.
http://www.baldwin08.com/
This sheeple will party on down!
 Hey guess what....the term *tribe* was used as a reference to survivor...not a racial slur unless you're looking for it...
Not according to the socialist party.
Brian Moore, the presidential candidate for the socialist party, says that it is an insult to say that Barack Obama is a socialist. He was interviewed on TV last week and said that Obama is a capitalist and could not be described as a socialist in any way, shape, or form. I think he knows a little bit more about socialism than any of you do.
Not to worry, her own party won't have her... sm
They see what she did to McCain and how she is really out for herself. It was a giant mistake that McCain won't admit but many many many republicans jumped ship because of Palin.
Party of whiners?
at least it's not the party of handouts and doing nothing for themselves.
I guess instead of complaining I should just walk away from the my mortgage? I wasn't whining, I was stating a fact, but am I surprised that you attacked me for that? NO
We need a viable 3rd party. Until then....
It is business as usual. Neither party does what WE THE PEOPLE elected them to do, they do what THEY want to do. This is where we as fed up Americans can put entrenched politicians out of business.
Let your elected officials know that in the next election their jobs are in peril as we are SICK AND TIRED of being played for chumps. Then tell them that you will not vote for an established party, you are going to vote 3rd party.
I realize that this will take a lot of work, but if enough of us can join together, it can be done.
I will get off my soapbox now.
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